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Language experts say that that texting is becoming almost a language of its own

With cell phones becoming the primary means of distance communication, text messages and instant messages are becoming almost a new written language of their own, according to University of Tasmania lecturer Nenagh Kemp.

Professor Kemp, a psychology lecturer who specializes in language use, nicknames the new language "Textese".  She performed a study in which she assigned 55 of her undergraduate students to compose text messages in textese and in normal English and then to try to read their classmates compositions.

Textese is a language of abbreviations, based on Standard English.  For example "How are you doing today?  Want to go for a coffee later?" might translate to "hi HRU 2day? wnt2go 4 a cofy l8r?".

The study revealed interesting insight into this emerging language.  The study indicated that textese was not ruining students' traditional spelling abilities.  However, it did indicate that significant differences exist between English and textese.  Traditional English takes longer to write, but is less ambiguous and quicker to read.  Textese is ultra-speedy to write but takes a longer time to decipher and often is misread.

Professor Kemp states, "It's quicker to write in textisms, but when you go on to read it, it took people longer. As skilled adult readers, we're used to reading full words and sentences, so it is harder for us to decipher."

Fortunately, adult texters' literary skills appear to be intact despite criticism of the trend.  However, Professor Kemp emphasizes that the focus of grammatical structure on understanding textese makes texting a tricky business.

Cautions Professor Kemp, "It's fine to use textese on a mobile phone, as it saves you time, but you have to make sure your reader understands it.  And don't let it creep into your emails, student essays or job applications. Keep the boundaries."



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Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 10:25:56 AM , Rating: 5
Kids are already using "text speak" in their school homework. Went on a few dates with a teacher and she saw it all the time. That was the least of some of these students problems.

When I do send a text message, I type out what I'm saying.




RE: Already has
By MrBlastman on 12/10/2008 10:37:42 AM , Rating: 1
Did she give them an "F"?


RE: Already has
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 12/10/2008 10:46:22 AM , Rating: 1
Well, she definitely didn't "F" FITCamaro ;)


RE: Already has
By MrBlastman on 12/10/2008 10:58:09 AM , Rating: 3
cue comment from FATCamaro...


RE: Already has
By Ryanman on 12/10/2008 11:09:38 AM , Rating: 5
he's hot for teacher...


RE: Already has
By Yawgm0th on 12/10/2008 11:57:17 AM , Rating: 1
6


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:04:45 PM , Rating: 3
Nah I got the payoff without the work. ;)

But we stopped going out because she was too liberal. I don't date women who think illegal aliens have the right to be here and that its ok to do drugs (even if they don't).


RE: Already has
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 1:26:17 PM , Rating: 2
Uh no. They're free to think whatever and however they want. I just don't want to be with someone who thinks that way. I want to be with someone who shares the values that I have. Don't have to see eye to eye on everything. But those two are pretty big ones for me.


RE: Already has
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/10/2008 1:36:24 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
I don't date women who think illegal aliens have the right to be here and that its ok to do drugs (even if they don't).

quote:
Don't have to see eye to eye on everything. But those two are pretty big ones for me.

I take it you've never drank or smoked? And that your grandparents were Native Americans, then?

And 'sides whats wrong with a liberal and democrat dating?? Carville and Mary Matalin would disagree with you. A little disagreement could spice things up, unless your too stodgy and up tight about your beliefs to accept the fact that someone might have different ones than yours.


RE: Already has
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/10/2008 1:48:56 PM , Rating: 2
(Fix)
*liberal and conservative


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 1:52:19 PM , Rating: 3
A liberal and a democrat dating is fine. I'm neither and largely consider them one in the same. She wasn't a diehard liberal but anyone who thinks that illegal aliens have a god given right to break the law to come into this country and stay, I don't want to be romantically involved with.

How is drinking an illegal again? And no, I have never smoked.

My grandparents aren't Native Americans but one of my great, great, great grandmothers is. And how is that relevant either? Those of my ancestors who came to this country did so legally. I am not anti-immigration (as many of you liberals make us out to be). I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration. If someone from Mexico comes here legally, I have no issue provided they assimilate into our culture instead of trying to change our culture to be their own. My best friends family came here from Puerto Rico. And I have worked and gone to school with many LEGAL immigrants. All who themselves have hated illegal immigrants because a) it makes life harder on them due to some anti-immigrant stigma and b) they have to follow the rules or they get deported while Jose gets to jump the fence and no one really cares.

As I said, I don't have to see eye to eye with someone on everything. But if they believe that the sovereignty of our nation should be ignored because people have it hard elsewhere, or that its ok to use illegal and sometimes deadly substances, then they can find someone else to date.


RE: Already has
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/10/2008 2:07:55 PM , Rating: 3
(As to the democrat/liberal, please refer to fix item above, Matlin is conservative)

Alcohol is a drug. Ask any medical professional.

As to:
quote:
illegal and sometimes deadly substances, then they can find someone else to date

Obviously you never heard of Jim Morrison. Or the countless dead drunk drivers. Alcohol is very deadly when abused, and very legal. And yet you use it, obviously invalidating your logic, there.

Am I saying it should be made illegal? Not at all. I'm justing pointing out the hypocrisy of selectively restricting freedom on such a basis.

You didn't even specify *illegal* drugs in your original statement. And even if you did, I'd say you're a hypocrite if you drink and rail against "drugs being bad".

As to the immigration issue I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek, just to point out your hypocrisy.

Obviously we shouldn't just open the gates up and let anyone in, but today there's a decided lack of a responsible route to immigration for those willing to work hard. Today if your grandparents came over, they'd likely have to come in illegally and would be unlikely to achieve citizenship. There needs to be reform on this front to make it so people (like your grandparents) can have a *legal* path to citizenship.

Further, we need to work with Mexico and Cuba to try to revive their economies. Otherwise, its like building a mansion in the middle of a ghetto neighborhood -- there's not much we will be able to do stop people from coming in when they're so desperate.

Support policies that will build a strong North America and responsible routes citizenship as opposed to whining about the problem of immigration with no solutions.


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 2:33:55 PM , Rating: 3
Oh so I guess I'm evil for wanting to keep illegal immigrants and drug traffickers out of our country but its fine for Mexico to have soldiers at its southern border to stop people from coming in right? As we should have.

You can call it hypocrisy all you want. Alcohol is legal. Drugs are not. Drinking a beer does not present any danger to someone in good health who is not allergic. Taking a hit of heroin can kill you if you don't respond well to it. And if it doesn't, you become physically addicted after the first time. To say the two are similar is asinine.

I also guess that the rest of the modern country's immigration policies are also flawed. The United States is the only modern nation that does not have an immigration policy based on merit. We let anyone in who wants to come provided they wait in line. Millions of people want to come to the US every year. We do not judge them based on what they have to offer for our country as other nations do. We simply cannot let that many people in every year which is what you are saying we need to do. Because that's the only way they'll be coming here legally.

And it is not our responsibility to improve the economics and standard of living of other nations. We're already in the situation to where we're broke. And stopping the war in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't going to change that. It is but a drop in the bucket to the obligations we are responsible for and have no ability to pay. In 50 years (probably less) we're probably going to be the country people are leaving for others illegally because our currency is going to be worthless due to all these socialist entitlement programs. Either that or taxes are going to have to go sky high (think 50-60% or more) in order to pay for everything. And then we'll just lose all the talented people we have because they're not going to want to live here nor are the businesses going to want to be here.


RE: Already has
By omnicronx on 12/10/2008 3:02:28 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Drinking a beer does not present any danger to someone in good health who is not allergic.
Ever heard of anyone dying from a pot smoking overdose? Alcohol presents far more danger than many illegal recreational drugs.(or even non recreational)

Heres some stats for you:

Users:
alcohol : 100 million
Heroin : 500,000
Cocain : 5 million

Deaths per year:
alcohol : 150,000
Heroin : 400
Cocain : 200

Deaths per 100k:
alcohol : 150
Heroin : 80
Cocain : 4

Kind of makers your argument moot doesnt it?
You say it is not comparable with heroin, I say it most definitely is. Per capita Alcohol related deaths (you have to count drunk driving) still doubles that of heroin.


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 3:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
So start taking heroin. Let me know how it works out for you.


RE: Already has
By omnicronx on 12/10/2008 3:49:19 PM , Rating: 2
Start drinking a 26er daily. Let me know how that works out for you ;)

Obviously heroin is a deadly drug, (i think full time users have an average life expectancy of something like 4 years after becoming an addict), I am not here to debate this. My point here is people turning a blind eye to alcohol thinking it is not a drug because it is legal is just plain misguided. Because it is so freely available and is considered ok by the general public, it is much more likely for someone to misuse and become an addict. Injecting yourself with a needle on the otherhand has a pretty big stigma attached to it, and thus is far less likely for the average person to become involved with.


RE: Already has
By murphyslabrat on 12/11/2008 3:19:02 PM , Rating: 2
Well, your teacher was a heroin(e) to her pupils, and you took her, right? I mean, you already said you "got the goods", so that couldn't have been the real reason you dumped her

...assuming it was you who did the dumping.


RE: Already has
By Solandri on 12/10/2008 7:07:56 PM , Rating: 2
The problem I have with addictive drugs is the loss of self-determination that comes with addiction. I believe that's a fundamental right, and the legality of anything that could potentially take it away needs to be considered carefully. Alcohol in moderate amounts does not seem to be addictive. Neither does marijuana. Heroin however definitely is. And before you ask, yes I oppose cigarette smoking.


RE: Already has
By Frallan on 12/11/2008 5:15:05 AM , Rating: 2
As much as i h8 to admit it I think Camaro is right on this one. He might be a bit on the freakish conservative Industrialist halfway fanatical side from time to time and I very rarly agree with him.

This time however he is stating that he wants some peace and quiet under hir own roof - i.e not dating some1 who doesnt share his basic values. I dont see anything wrong with that and I think that U jumped him bc he is Camaro. Actuelly I even agree with him - yes a bit of difference can spice things up. However to much differnce will cause huge problems. How do u raise the kids where will U live what company will U keep when together.

I like a bit of discussion with my fiancee but I would not like it every day when i get home from work dog-tired. That is a deal breaker.

BTW note all the txteese in my post :p


RE: Already has
By LeftSide on 12/10/2008 8:53:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Further, we need to work with Mexico and Cuba to try to revive their economies. Otherwise, its like building a mansion in the middle of a ghetto neighborhood -- there's not much we will be able to do stop people from coming in when they're so desperate.


Or we could just destroy our own economy until Mexico and Cuba look like Heaven on earth.


RE: Already has
By omnicronx on 12/10/2008 2:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
I always find it funny when someone makes the statement that illegal aliens don't have the right to break the law and come into 'this' country. For 200 years your country was entirely dependent on immigration, in fact chances are either someone in your in your family (whether it be grand parents, great grand parents etc) came into the US illegally. Personally I have a grand parent on either side of my family that came to the US illegally.
quote:
My grandparents aren't Native Americans but one of my great, great, great grandmothers is. And how is that relevant either?
I think hes trying to make the same point I just made. Unless you are native american, you are also a direct descendant of immigrants, most likely illegally.
quote:
And I have worked and gone to school with many LEGAL immigrants. All who themselves have hated illegal immigrants
How does that make you/them right? I find it very contradicting, I don't see how it matters if they are illegal or not, they are still immigrants, and thus still fall under the same stereotypes.
In fact legal immigrants are more likely to take your jobs, as they don't need to find an employer that will pay them under the table, and probably for less than min wage.


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 3:33:41 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
For 200 years your country was entirely dependent on immigration, in fact chances are either someone in your in your family (whether it be grand parents, great grand parents etc) came into the US illegally.


How do you figure when for over a 100 years US immigration policy was pretty much just "you have to be white". Those of my ancestors who were not here soon after the US became a nation immigrated here legally through Ellis Island (Yes it's been traced back). As did many people's ancestors. Blacks became citizens after the slaves were freed. Unless your grandparents came to the US illegally in the past 60-70 years, I doubt they were illegal and merely immigrated at the time when America was looking to fill in its vast empty states.

Regardless, I have my opinions. You have yours. I'm not changing mine. You're not changing yours. So end it.


RE: Already has
By Myg on 12/10/2008 2:28:18 PM , Rating: 2
Its important to have common (give or take a bit) beliefs if you want to have a deep and lasting relationship with someone, they dont have to share the same opinions; of course, but sharing beliefs really make a whole world of difference.


RE: Already has
By Myg on 12/10/2008 2:08:30 PM , Rating: 2
I hear loyalty is a great value; might want to consider subscribing to it before you share such personal info (yours and that ladies)...


RE: Already has
By foolsgambit11 on 12/10/2008 7:33:32 PM , Rating: 2
Give her my number, then....

I'm sorry, though. I do take issue with not dating somebody because of the two issues you mentioned. If she doesn't do drugs, and she's not an illegal immigrant, then I'm not sure how her views would really affect the relationship. There are definitely some fundamental values that I think couples should broadly agree on, because they directly affect the relationship. But those issues aren't on the list.

But why listen to me, I haven't had a girlfriend in years....


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 1:53:00 PM , Rating: 2
Why did he get rated down? Christ people it was a joke.


RE: Already has
By bighairycamel on 12/10/2008 11:13:50 AM , Rating: 3
Same here, I pride myself on texting full words and full sentances. At the risk of sounding smug, I don't want to be put in the same class as all the teenage idiots who type the lazy way... does it really take that much more effort to type "you" instead of "u"?


RE: Already has
By IceBreakerG on 12/10/2008 11:29:03 AM , Rating: 2
Sometimes, for me at least, it's not about the amount of effort, but trying to fit my entire statement into 1 message. I have a 160 character limit when sending text messages, so sometimes, typing "u" instead of "you" or "r" instead of "are" can mean the difference between fitting the whole statement in 1 message, or splitting it across 2 messages with the second message containing only "part" of the word that was cut off.


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:06:28 PM , Rating: 5
So here's a novel idea. CALL PEOPLE! That device also has the ability to let you talk to people in real time. And if you give me an answer of "I'm not allowed to make calls in class" or "I can't make calls at work", then maybe you shouldn't be sending a text message either.


RE: Already has
By IceBreakerG on 12/10/2008 1:29:39 PM , Rating: 2
Phone calls are for messages that are important enough to warrant an actual "call." Also, text messages are nearly "silent" except for when you phone goes off. Not every single message needs to be verbally spoken, sometimes a text message will suffice, and some times, just some times, that message may be a tad bit longer than 160 characters. Like 165 or something lol.


RE: Already has
By MrBlastman on 12/10/2008 11:29:43 AM , Rating: 2
No, but this "u" travesty has been occuring since at least 1996 online. I know back in the Pre-1993 BBS days it was not, at least on all of the BBS's I frequented.

If they want to look bad online it is to their own detriment. It will only serve to promote its usage when they have to make a resume or some other document in the professional workspace... this very usage (hopefully) will lead to them being forced to re-learn grammar.


RE: Already has
By AlexWade on 12/10/2008 1:08:51 PM , Rating: 2
This reminds me of the artist Prince's website where he often used "U" and other things like it. I found it very hard to read because then my mind has to translate the shorthand. Well, the same with text messages.


RE: Already has
By foolsgambit11 on 12/10/2008 7:38:34 PM , Rating: 2
Prince used 'U' decades ago. Way before the internet. Prince wrote "Nothing Compares 2 U" in 1981.


RE: Already has
By Hieyeck on 12/10/2008 11:40:29 AM , Rating: 2
This problem can be easily remedied by many methods.
1. A full keyboard, qwerty or otherwise. When it's easier to actually spell out the whole word, people will do that.
2. Reading. The more you read, the greater your vocabulary. The greater your vocab, the more words you know and you can condense your messages.

Last but not least:
3. Common sense. Use your phone for what phones were invented for. And if you use more than 200 minutes, you're either stuck on hold with some bad customer service rep too much, or you talk too much.


RE: Already has
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
Now if we can just teach you to spell "sentence".


RE: Already has
By CheesePoofs on 12/10/2008 1:09:20 PM , Rating: 2
Not to take offense, but I'm a teenager and spell out every word I text. Let's not start heaping all teenagers together :)


Bad Spelling
By vbNetGuy on 12/10/2008 10:32:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The study indicated that textese was not ruining students' traditional spelling abilities.


My 19 year old brother has some of the worst spelling out of everyone that I know. He is always writing in textese with everything from emails to letters. When he applied for his job I had to re-write his cover letter with him because every other word was spelled incorrectly. Most of his spelling was so bad that spell checker couldn't find a similar match.

The bad part about this is he thinks it is alright. He wanted to send his cover letter the way it was because it took too long to fix it.




RE: Bad Spelling
By SavagePotato on 12/10/2008 10:57:40 AM , Rating: 5
Natural selection.

The ape-speakers will not be able to get jobs when employers are unable to decipher their series of grunts attempt at communication, and assume they are reading the resume of a mongoloid gorilla.

Therefore they will die off in joblessness as the real world rejects their absurd attempts at communication. Or at least that is what should happen.


RE: Bad Spelling
By ipay on 12/10/2008 11:57:05 AM , Rating: 2
(In)fortunatly, natural selection doesn't work for humans any more.
Successful people will tend to work better and harder, so the time for sex and look after kids is decreasing.

So, as lazy people have nothing better to do than reproduction while awaiting for the next month pension, the lazy genes will pass on.
There were a movie (not so good) about this.


RE: Bad Spelling
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:09:18 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Therefore they will die off in joblessness as the real world rejects their absurd attempts at communication. Or at least that is what should happen.


Yeah I was about to say no they just become welfare recipients.


RE: Bad Spelling
By mvpx02 on 12/10/2008 12:30:39 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately, humans let this happen less and less. Unless somebody is dumb enough to accidently kill themselves, they are able to survive (in increasing comfort thanks to the liberals) because of government programs set up to reward laziness.

Sadly, while the smart/hardworking/responsible people stop having children when they cannot afford to support any more, the dumb/lazy/irresponsible people don't care about consequences because, if anything, it means a bigger welfare check each month.


RE: Bad Spelling
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 1:27:44 PM , Rating: 2
You nailed it.


RE: Bad Spelling
By Screwballl on 12/10/2008 1:37:11 PM , Rating: 2
Idiocracy movie plot lines properly explained... and a sad truth for society today...

"Your floor... Your floor is now clean"


RE: Bad Spelling
By foolsgambit11 on 12/10/2008 7:45:31 PM , Rating: 2
Brawndo, it's got what plants need!

Sadly, TV is so close to actually putting Ow, My Balls! on air at this point. I don't know what's stopping them.


RE: Bad Spelling
By Bruneauinfo on 12/12/2008 7:14:05 AM , Rating: 2
Electrolytes, it's what plants crave!!


RE: Bad Spelling
By Scabies on 12/10/2008 11:48:23 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
The study indicated that textese was not ruining students' traditional spelling abilities.

Little does the professor know that his students are not the true authors of the work they submit for grading.


RE: Bad Spelling
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:08:02 PM , Rating: 2
I would've taught my brother a lesson and not corrected his cover letter. You fixing it for him only shows him he doesn't have to take responsibility for him being stupid. Others will.


RE: Bad Spelling
By ggordonliddy on 12/11/2008 2:37:45 AM , Rating: 2
Why the hell would you fix it for him? How is he going to learn if you cover up his mistakes? He obviously does not deserve the job.


Dear "Linguists"
By Joz on 12/10/2008 10:30:30 AM , Rating: 1
DUHH!!

We have been using txt speak for years.
Hve u been lving under a roc?




RE: Dear "Linguists"
By Ticholo on 12/10/2008 11:23:09 AM , Rating: 2
You should check your keyboard's cable.


RE: Dear "Linguists"
By Hieyeck on 12/10/2008 11:31:06 AM , Rating: 2
If you're not sure how, start by wrapping it around your neck.


RE: Dear "Linguists"
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:10:08 PM , Rating: 2
Damn you beat me to it. :)


Textese plz
By Dharl on 12/10/2008 10:49:00 AM , Rating: 2
omg hy, dis artcl iz 2hrd2 red... cn u plz pozt it agn. kthx byz

At least it's a bit easier to read than 133+ $|>34|<.




RE: Textese plz
By metaltoiletry on 12/10/2008 10:59:07 AM , Rating: 1
Except that l33t is awesome and textese is not.


RE: Textese plz
By FITCamaro on 12/10/2008 12:10:55 PM , Rating: 2
Congrats for me not knowing what the f*ck you just said.


RE: Textese plz
By Dharl on 12/10/2008 3:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, guess I was a little cryptic there eh?

Translation: Oh my God hi, this article is too hard to read... can you please post it again? Ok, thank you, bye!

I guess I've had too much practice reading text messages from past girlfriends.


emphasis
By Screwballl on 12/10/2008 10:30:41 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
However, Professor Kemp emphasizes that the emphasis of grammatical structure on understanding textese makes texting a tricky business.


He emphasizes that the emphasis on grammatical emphanization is tricky?

he mfszes tht th mfsis on grmmtcl mfnztn s trky?

This was one part I think they missed in Idiocracy on several occasions...




Not really,
By munim on 12/10/2008 10:28:40 AM , Rating: 2
Everyone I know uses T9/predictive text, and it's kind of hard to not type words using it.




Not ruining spelling abilities?
By ggordonliddy on 12/11/2008 2:41:12 AM , Rating: 2
> The study indicated that textese was not ruining students' traditional spelling abilities.

That's a load of crap. Not just text messaging, but the Internet in general.




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