Sources: Governor Cuomo's Office, NJ.com, Automotive News, NADA
quote: * Fiercely compete for your business and drive consumer prices down.
quote: * Take the side of consumers in warranty and safety recalls.
quote: * Create good-paying local jobs and significant tax revenue for local communities.
quote: * Simplify an otherwise complex car-buying experience.
quote: Wrong. Dealerships provide the most efficient way to screw people. I don't know of anyone that would describe a trip to a dealership to buy a new car as a good, "efficient" experience.
quote: Franchised new-car dealers provide the best, most efficient and most cost-effective way to skin the customers and deep fry them alive and thus maximize the profit going into dealership pockets, monopolized and unchallenged.
quote: Direct salesManufacturer cost + profit margin + taxes = consumer priceDealer FranchiseManufacturer cost + profit margin + dealer cost + dealer margin + taxes = consumer price
quote: While I agree dealers are probably inflating car prices, it's not as simple as you make it out to be. What if you hired a professional negotiator to negotiate your car price with the manufacturer?
quote: * For anyone who doesn't believe this is possible, it's exactly how fleet pricing of cars via discount programs like Costco work. You pay Costco's membership fee, Costco negotiates a better price for the car than you could have with your lousy negotiating skills.
quote: Because BMW doesn't make cars that drive like a Prius?
quote: And it's really getting annoying seeing him accuse everyone's "engineers" of sucking just because products don't meet his personal expectations or understanding of target markets.
quote: BMW is the ONLY manufacturer getting so little MPG gain from going hybrid.
quote: The 335i has a lower sticker price and is a better driver's car. You will be able to get a grand or two off of that that should match your final price of your AH3 or lower.
quote: Don't confuse buying a car that a dealer was begging to sell to someone with a vehicle that is in very high demand where the supply cannot match it.
quote: As for the Escape- I never claimed the dealer told me they were offering me *their* retail. I did the research on KBB and Edmund's of what the dealer retail should be. They met that price. Perhaps their retail will be higher. Please, learn to read.
quote: I was able to negotiate down to invoice pricing, plus they included additional warranty coverage, and to top it off, they offered dealer retail for my Escape (a couple thousand more than I was expecting given the condition, mileage and age based on KBB and Edmunds reasearch)
quote: Bear in mind that Fiat loses 14K on every 500e it sells
quote: Believe me, there's no such thing as free additional warranty or giving full price for your trade in. That super negotiating you did was already set up well in advance and those costs that you think you received are already built into that invoice.
quote: Full price on trade in- I don't know how you can suggest this was set up in advance.
quote: Ultimately, I spent 3 months of researching different cars, available incentives, over a week of negotiation, including best possible loans outside of each dealership for each vehicle I was considering. I didn't decide one week I wanted a new car and spent only 3-4 hours including test drive before I signed the contract.
quote: Sure, I could sell my car myself (and I considered that option- based on the fact that you're trying to educate me here on things you assume I don't know, you're probably also assuming I didn't consider it and/or didn't try to sell it prior to my purchase). Given the time investment of selling the car myself, plus the likely value I could have pulled from selling the car myself based on KBB and Edmunds), the dealer ended up offering me close to what they should have been able to sell it for retail, and well above the number I tried selling it for already.
quote: because you're wrong.