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"I asked for a car, I got a computer. How's that for being born under a bad sign?"
Bueller...Bueller...Bueller...

Graduation time is near for most students at Tesoro High School in Orange County California. However, two students are facing the prospect of beginning a prison term rather than walking across the stage to receive their diplomas. One of the teens faces the possibility of 38 years in prison.

The two teens, Omar Khan and Tanvir Singh, have been charged with multiple felony counts. Khan’s chargers are by far the most severe with a total of 69 felony counts pending against him including identity theft, second degree burglary, computer access and fraud, removing and secreting a public record and altering and falsifying a public record.

The charges stem from Khan’s attempt to hack into his teachers computer using a stolen password to change his low grades to A’s and B’s. Khan is also alleged to have tried to install spyware to allow him access to the schools secure network remotely. In addition to attempting to change his own grades, Khan is also accused of trying to change the grades of 12 other students.

Khan was found out when he requested a school transcript in order to appeal a denial of admission to the University of California for the coming fall semester. An investigation was started after school administrators noticed discrepancies in Khan’s grades. That investigation resulted in the officials finding Khan had original tests, answers and copies of his altered grades.

The second teen, Singh, faces four counts including conspiracy, burglary, computer fraud and altering a public record after an alleged attempt to break into a class room and steal test answers before a test.

Merlin Stapleton, attorney for Singh said, “This is certainly not the first time we've heard of a kid cheating. Sometimes they do these types of things simply to see if they can. The only thing that makes this case different is the technology used.”

The 38-year sentence is the maximum Khan could face and both teens face arraignment on July 8.



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Oh boy...
By sxr7171 on 6/20/2008 3:24:14 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah whatever, just put a mark on their permanent record and kick them out of school. Maybe make them pick up garbage on the side of a highway or 3 for a few months. Put murders and rapists in jail.




RE: Oh boy...
By DoeBoy on 6/20/2008 3:30:46 PM , Rating: 5
Welcome to Club USA where we like to throw everybody in jail no matter how small the crime is!


RE: Oh boy...
By eye smite on 6/20/2008 3:35:44 PM , Rating: 5
Actually, people who write bad checks serve longer sentences in this country than pedophiles do. lol


RE: Oh boy...
By trajan on 6/20/2008 4:01:05 PM , Rating: 4
Maybe under sentencing guidelines although I doubt that. Certainly I would bet if you looked at the sentences actually handed out, pedophiles get longer ones than check bouncers. And don't forget that once a pedophile is released, he's got to register as a sex offender, which leads to all kinds of hell for them, well deserved if the bastards are guilty.


RE: Oh boy...
By Oregonian2 on 6/20/2008 6:01:32 PM , Rating: 5
Yes, they are marked for life. Any possible jailtime isn't the end of it like in classic movies where former jailbirds go straight to become successful citizens. Those convicted of pedophilia will be persecuted until they die. What's sad is that they're given no incentive to "go clean" -- they're considered guilty "forever" no matter what they do or don't do. The system is built to encourage repeat offenses.


RE: Oh boy...
By Mojo the Monkey on 6/20/2008 6:05:02 PM , Rating: 5
yeah, while I have no sympathy for those kinds of individuals, I consider myself highly principled. Along those lines, I believe once the sentence has been served, that should be the end of it. If people think the sentence isnt enough, they need to change the sentence, not add on conditions after release which were not anticipated at the time of conviction.


RE: Oh boy...
By Ryanman on 6/20/2008 6:31:39 PM , Rating: 5
it's not built to make a punishmet... It's a system built to protect children. We could get in a discussion about it, but pedophiles can't "go clean" in the traditional sense. They can't not want to be with children. They can control themselves and not ruin lives but they'll never get rid of the desire.

My issue is with people who AREN'T pedophiles. The ones who are sex offenders due to statutory rape. Like the kid who was in federal prison for years because a 17 year old girl sucked him off. Absolutely ridiculous.


RE: Oh boy...
By Parhel on 6/20/2008 6:40:52 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
My issue is with people who AREN'T pedophiles


It would be awful to be branded for life over something like that. There ought to be a caveat for the age difference. Under the current system, an 18 year old guy with a 17 year old girlfriend is a criminal.

For the actual pedophiles, I agree. No amount of reform would ever make feel comfortable about someone like that living in my neighborhood. Yet it wouldn't be fair to put in jail for ever . . . maybe ship them off to "Pedophile Island." It would make for a great reality TV show too.


RE: Oh boy...
By jtesoro on 6/21/2008 12:12:55 AM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, while on the topic of pedophiles, what ever happened to Christoper1? Haven't seen him post in a while (which is a good thing I guess).


RE: Oh boy...
By Parhel on 6/21/2008 12:48:20 AM , Rating: 3
Yeah, his last post was over 2 months ago. I hope he's in jail.


RE: Oh boy...
By JustTom on 6/21/2008 2:07:22 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Under the current system, an 18 year old guy with a 17 year old girlfriend is a criminal.


This is not necessarily, or even likely to be true. Many states have clauses in their consent laws regarding age difference, if the sex partners are within that age spread then the sex is legal. However, there is also an age that any sex is illegal but it is often shockingly low.

For instance in NY law is: Third-degree rape for anyone age 21 or older to have sexual intercourse with someone under age 17
Second-degree rape for anyone age 18 or older to engage in sexual intercourse with someone under age 15. The fact that the offender was less than four years older than the victim at the time of the act is an affirmative defense.
First-degree rape to have sexual intercourse with someone (1) less than age 11 or (2) less than age 13 if the actor is age 18 or older

And the Connecticut law is: First-degree sexual assault to have sexual intercourse with a person under age 13 if the actor is more than two years older
Second-degree sexual assault to have sexual intercourse with a person between ages 13 and 16 if the actor is more than two years older


RE: Oh boy...
By 3kliksphilip on 6/22/2008 9:29:22 PM , Rating: 4
We should just throw all actors in jail and be done with it.


RE: Oh boy...
By MRwizard on 6/22/2008 11:30:23 PM , Rating: 2
""Pedophile Island.""

HAHA!!

give em all clubs and see which can beat the other to death

i can see it now!


RE: Oh boy...
By lco45 on 6/23/08, Rating: 0
RE: Oh boy...
By Silver2k7 on 6/28/2008 4:58:29 AM , Rating: 2
"Under the current system, an 18 year old guy with a 17 year old girlfriend is a criminal."

Why not change the leagal limit of sex to 15 like european contries. then problem solved.

leagal limits here:

15 - sex
18 - getting a drivers license
18 - getting married
18 - purchasing alcohol with up to 3.5 vol%, ciggarettes.
18 - purchasing stronger alcohol in a Pub
20 - purchasing stronger alcohol in a store.


RE: Oh boy...
By tigz1218 on 6/21/2008 5:31:56 PM , Rating: 2
"They can't not want to be with children."

First let me say yes I think these people are sick and deserve to go to jail. However as I have studied many courses in psychology throughout the years I will disagree on that statement. There are many studies that show you can alter peoples behavior. In this case you can show pictures of children to these people and pair that with something that makes them feel nausiated. In time their desire to be with children should drastically or completely decrease.


RE: Oh boy...
By Oregonian2 on 6/21/2008 11:45:21 PM , Rating: 2
Also is the matter of the Pedo, convicted when 21 years old becomes a Father (with his wife) at the age of 45, but whom is forced to put their child out for adoption because he can't be near a child .

On the other hand, an underage teenager here can cold-bloodly murder someone and when (s)he turns 18, not only is (s)he free in society, but has his/her record wiped clean as a whistle. (I know someone who's daughter was clubbed to death at school and this was the case -- they have lowered the age threshold since then, but it's still there).

Pedo: bad
Murderer: good.

Fair?