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New Zealand teen accused of masterminding botnet FBI says has caused $20 million in losses

Hackers use botnet networks for everything from stealing credit card data to full on brute force attacks aiming to take down large networks, which was the case in the attack that was launched against eBay in September of 2007.

One of the biggest areas of research for preventing cybercrime is in the field of detecting and defeating these botnets.  Last month DailyTech reported about Nemean, a new digital fingerprinting technology able to detect botnets much faster and more accurately than current detection applications.

The Guardian reports that a New Zealand teen was arrested today and stands accused of being the ringleader of a massive botnet responsible for infecting more than 1.3 million computers. Authorities withheld the 18-year-old teen's name because of his age, but he went by the hacker alias Akill.

Authorities say that eight other people have been charged, pled guilty or convicted in association to the botnet since the investigation started in June. Thirteen arrest warrants were served in the U.S. and internationally related to the investigation.

The FBI says that the botnet has compromised more than 1 million computers and resulted in losses of around $20 million USD.

Martin Klenintjes, head of the New Zealand police e-crime unit, said, "He [Akill] is very bright and very skilled in what he's doing. He hires his services out to others."



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Punishment...
By retrospooty on 12/1/2007 12:52:27 PM , Rating: 3
I seriously think they should take guys like this and give them extremely stiff penalties, and make it highly publicised to deter others from doing it... I am glad the kid is smart and all, but a 10 year prison sentence will take away his entire youth, making attacks like this less likely from the next highly intelligent loser that comes along.

Next step... SPAM LAWS




RE: Punishment...
By Shining Arcanine on 12/1/2007 2:00:34 PM , Rating: 4
Even if this person was tortured for the rest of his earthly life, it will have no effect to deter other highly intelligent people from doing the same thing. They do this because they are guilty of hubris, so in their minds, they are too intelligent go get caught and the magnitude of the consequences is irrelevant to them until they are caught, by which time, it is too late for them to change.

The only effect that giving this person a long prison sentence will have is to rob society of the benefit of his intellectual abilities for a very long time. Now that he has been caught, it would be better to focus on seeing that he does not do this again with a short, severe sentence, such as a one year sentence where he will do farming during the spring and summer and clean streets during the autumn and winter than it would to focus on achieving any imagined deterrent effect. Afterward, the New Zealand government could give him to a university, enabling him to devote his intellectual abilities to legal activities and New Zealand's police could then monitor him for a few years to make sure he does not revert to what he was doing previously without being caught.

It would be a much better use of a such a great intellect and by doing it, society would lose nothing and gain everything. As I said, even if society was to torture the ones that are caught for the rest of their earthly lives, those that have not been caught will not make change their lives as a consequence of their own hubris and if society was to imprison this individual for a long time, society would only lose the intellectual work he could accomplished in that time frame for the betterment of others.


RE: Punishment...
By tanishalfelven on 12/1/2007 2:24:27 PM , Rating: 1
just wanted to add to this poster.
Hubris refers to pride. \

Overbearing pride or presumption; arrogance: “There is no safety in unlimited technological hubris” (McGeorge Bundy).

just cuase most people might not know.

also this explanation is the same reason why the death penalty is so useless.


RE: Punishment...
By AnotherGuy on 12/1/07, Rating: 0
RE: Punishment...
By TSS on 12/1/2007 8:07:41 PM , Rating: 2
a botnet of 1,3 millions computers and you don't call that genious?

save for the fact that propably the majority of people working in security now as programmers where once hackers, he knows how he'd tear software apart... so he just as well knows how to prevent it.

maybe you'd use "some tools" to "hack" but considering what he's charged with i'd think he's pretty damn good at what he does.


RE: Punishment...
By SilthDraeth on 12/1/2007 8:48:44 PM , Rating: 3
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also this explanation is the same reason why the death penalty is so useless.


Death penalty isn't about deterrence. It is about punishing someone for a crime the committed. Making the punishment, fit the crime per say. Violent criminals are a much greater threat to people than hackers. Hacking does not directly or physically harm, or kill people.

You are right however when talking about smart people and cyber crime. You can harness their intellect, monitor their activity, and have people like this do useful things instead of committing crime.


RE: Punishment...
By TomZ on 12/1/2007 9:48:52 PM , Rating: 3
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Death penalty isn't about deterrence.

Huh? Of course it is about deterrence. If it wasn't about deterrence, then that leaves the only alternative which is revenge, which the law doesn't recognize as a valid principle.
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You can harness their intellect, monitor their activity, and have people like this do useful things instead of committing crime.

I disagree - a criminal is a criminal, period. Someone willing to harm another person for their own gain needs jail time regardless of their IQ.


RE: Punishment...
By Montrevux on 12/2/2007 11:51:00 PM , Rating: 2
Not Revenge but Retribution, which is certainly a valid principle that law bases on.

That should be the sole reason for any form of Capital Punishment.


RE: Punishment...
By Oregonian2 on 12/3/2007 8:55:31 PM , Rating: 2
Somewhat all a vocabulary argument. The death penalty is a deterrence thing that deters the person who did the deed from doing it again. AFAIK, it's 100% effective. See, vocabulary is simple.


RE: Punishment...
By Shining Arcanine on 12/3/2007 7:24:58 AM , Rating: 2
The criminal justice system is not about punishment. That is why the Sheriffs who run the prisons are called correction officers.


RE: Punishment...
By AntDX316 on 12/3/2007 1:58:43 PM , Rating: 2
they wont jail him or fine him but they will make him work for them


RE: Punishment...
By Beemer76 on 12/3/2007 11:47:57 AM , Rating: 2
I'm divided about death penalty. I agree it will not deter many people from doing bad things. I would'nt say it's completely useless either. That guy who's been caught 10 times drunk driving ( Quebec, Canada ) and finally killed innocent people drunk driving again, his case would have been solved for good if he was sentenced to death after his 'x?'th infraction. Some people are just not recoverable.


RE: Punishment...
By murphyslabrat on 12/3/2007 12:02:48 PM , Rating: 2
By the same token, jail time would be useless as well. So, why do we bother? because anyone willing to ignore the [legitimate] authority of the government is due the stated penalties. These penalties are for reform, discouraging others, and plain old retribution.

However, as is the case with premeditated murder, capital punishment is perfectly valid. This person displayed a breach of morality that is unpardonable, this person demonstrated a clear lack of respect for the humanity of another person, and by extension, humanity as a whole.

Vigilantistic murder is the same. If the victim has committed an injustice that is not punishable by law, it is not up to the individual to correct the error of the judicial system. I guess, in this situation, the only thing you can do is cope with it.


RE: Punishment...
By cubby1223 on 12/1/2007 3:32:24 PM , Rating: 3
So in other words, you propose to *reward* people who destroy other's personal information and businesses?

I don't know, umm, the only effect that not giving this person a long prison sentence, would be to encourage everyone else to create havoc and destroy.


RE: Punishment...
By sxr7171 on 12/1/07, Rating: 0
RE: Punishment...
By cubby1223 on 12/1/2007 6:32:17 PM , Rating: 2
Amazing attitude. Don't even know how to respond.

So it's all about finances? Hmmm, the cost to jail him is cheaper than the cost in damages letting him run free creating new bot-nets. If you're going that route, you don't have a point.

Crimes must have consequences. So tell me, what should it be if not jail? Should he be rewarded with a job for breaking the law as the previous poster suggested? Remember, the consequences must outweigh the rewards, or else you'll have everyone who doesn't suffer from pride also committing crimes.


RE: Punishment...
By FITCamaro on 12/2/2007 11:18:35 AM , Rating: 2
Fine we'll execute them all. Single appeal. Then the chair or the table. No prison costs then.


RE: Punishment...
By 1078feba on 12/3/2007 10:21:52 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I will pay for his prison term...

But only if you agree to sponsor him once he's out. You know, monitor him, either counsel him yourself or get him professional counseling. And, most importantly, if he has a "relapse" (progressive nomenclature), then it's you we punish because he was your responibility.

You go to jail.

After all, you can delegate authority, not responsibility.

Better yet, put your money where your mouth is: go pick a convicted criminal of your choice, who has committed the same type of non-violent crime, and have at it.

We are all breathless in anticipation to see how it turns out....


RE: Punishment...
By Shining Arcanine on 12/3/2007 7:27:41 AM , Rating: 2
Do you think anyone would be discouraged if he received a long prison sentence? If you read my post, you would know why everyone capable of doing these things that do them are not discouraged by such tactics.


RE: Punishment...
By sxr7171 on 12/1/2007 5:59:25 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you. A lot of people really believe in the deterrent effects of long prison sentences. The only thing that does is overcrowd prisons and cost us - the taxpayers - more money to keep them alive and fighting, using drugs and generally being difficult in prison. We need to think more progressively than to assume that prison is the solution even for more modern non-violent crimes.