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Tata Nano Standard, in "Dazzling Red"

Tata Nano Luxury, in "Lime Yellow"

A minimalist interior is the order of the day for the Nano, as this dash shot and cutaway shows.
The "People's Car" gets 54mpg, seats five.

While there is no shortage of news from the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, the Auto Expo in New Delhi, India featured a unique new vehicle that might interest North American buyers wary of high gas prices -- and high vehicle prices as well. Tata Motors unveiled its interpretation of the "People's Car" -- a phrase that until now was the exclusive domain of German automobiles -- the $2,500 Nano.

With a length of just over ten feet, the Nano makes current "sub-compact" cars like the Honda Fit and the Toyota Yaris look like a 1980s-era Cadillac from the outside -- but nearly all of the interior space is devoted to the passenger compartment. Tata claims that the vehicle can seat five passengers, but the rear seat would undoubtedly become cramped, as the Nano is only a hair less than five feet wide. A highway trip would be a painful exercise, but Tata is targeting the car as an all-weather replacement for the motorbikes commonly used for family transit, so shorter trips with more passengers might be tolerable.

Power from the Nano comes from a rear-mounted 624cc two-cylinder SOHC engine, which produces approximately 33hp at 5500rpm, and 35lb-ft of torque at 2500rpm. Mated to a four-speed manual transmission and driving the rear wheels only, the Nano is in no rush to reach high speeds -- in fact, the more common 0-60 time was replaced by a "0-43" time of 14 seconds. The time to reach the stated maximum speed of 68mph was not given. This slow acceleration does let the Nano achieve excellent mileage -- estimates are 50mpg city and 60mpg highway. While other cars have exceeded these numbers, they don't share the Nano's low cost of entry.

The Nano will be available in two trim levels, "Standard" and "Luxury." The "Standard" is truly spartan, with vinyl seats, a single-color interior, black plastic bumpers and not much else. The "Luxury" lives up to its name by comparison, offering a list of features such as:

  • Body-colored bumpers
  • Fog lamps
  • Power door locks
  • Power mirrors
  • Air conditioning and heater
  • Dual-color interior
  • Fabric seats   

The sticker price for the Luxury model has not yet been announced. In addition to the two model choices, the Tata Nano microsite offers a range of accessories that can be viewed from the car builder, including pin striping decals, a choice of air scoop for the rear-mounted engine, and alloy wheels.


Despite the Nano's diminutive size, Tata is confident that it will be a safe vehicle, stating that it passes all current safety standards. With over 22,000 employees, a target production run of 250,000 units per year, and recent talks of purchasing Jaguar and Land Rover from Ford, Tata Motors could very well make this pocket-sized commuter car a reality in North America.



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Pimp my ride
By bighairycamel on 1/10/2008 12:30:04 PM , Rating: 3
Does it come with an option for 20" chrome spinners?




RE: Pimp my ride
By MrBungle123 on 1/10/2008 12:36:41 PM , Rating: 2
I think you'll need a lift kit for that.


RE: Pimp my ride
By DeepBlue1975 on 1/10/2008 12:36:58 PM , Rating: 2
You ask for way too much.
In fact, look at the small print: the luxury version is the only one that comes with a real steering wheel.

The standard one comes with a wooden steering like those used in pirate boats, and to propel the unit there are two short height people down the floor pushing the car with their bare hands :D

Should get its power from a crank like the original OLPC desing. :D


RE: Pimp my ride
By DeepBlue1975 on 1/10/2008 12:41:20 PM , Rating: 3
Seriously talking, I think it's a great initiative for a city car.
Why would you need anything bigger than that to travel among the congested town's traffic, to go shopping and the likes?

It's a perfect 2nd car to use everyday, while your main wheels stay at home and you take it just for weekend sightseeing and highway driving, as you can't take highway something which only attains a 68mph max speed. Not so much because of the speed but because of the time it would take it to reach that speed, so long it'd surely feel uncomfortable and unsafe to drive in such conditions.


RE: Pimp my ride
By FITCamaro on 1/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Pimp my ride
By FITCamaro on 1/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Pimp my ride
By Chris Peredun on 1/10/2008 1:09:34 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
The seats are probably padded with used toilet paper, the engine is probably made of melted down Hot Wheels cars, and the frame is probably made of plastic.

Hell the front seats look like fancy lawn chairs bolted down.


Funny, I had the same feeling when the rental company gave me a Cobalt.

Joking aside, it's got an all-aluminum engine and sheetmetal body. Frame wasn't stated, but if it can pass the crash testings at city speeds, it's surely some manner of metal. And I'd wager even if it's a "poor" car, it's a fair sight safer and more luxurious than the scooters it's aiming to replace.

And for $2,500 - I'd buy one for a city commuter, though I'd be more interested in removing the back seats in favour of a "wagon" style configuration as stated by Nightskyre.


RE: Pimp my ride
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 1/10/2008 1:17:41 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Funny, I had the same feeling when the rental company gave me a Cobalt.


Now that made me LOL. :)


RE: Pimp my ride
By DM0407 on 1/10/2008 1:40:20 PM , Rating: 2
Did he just use "lol" in the form of a sentence completing noun?

Same on you!


RE: Pimp my ride
By Polynikes on 1/10/2008 3:49:16 PM , Rating: 4
He was actually using it as a verb.

Same (sic) on you! ;)


RE: Pimp my ride
By ImSpartacus on 1/10/2008 4:47:00 PM , Rating: 3
"laugh" is a verb...

and "out loud" is almost an adverb since it describes how you laughed. No nouns in there.


RE: Pimp my ride
By FITCamaro on 1/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Pimp my ride
By ImSpartacus on 1/10/2008 4:48:12 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed. He's right though, it's a hell of a deal.


RE: Pimp my ride
By DigitalFreak on 1/10/2008 1:36:07 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
if it can pass the crash testings at city speeds


Who said they're doing crash testing? I think it's the India government's new form of population control.


RE: Pimp my ride
By subhajit on 1/10/2008 1:13:40 PM , Rating: 4
Well, I know you guys cannot even start to realize the importance of such a car in a country like India. But here are some specifications of the engine:
Nano has a rear-wheel drive, all-aluminium, two-cylinder, 624 cc, 33 bhp, multi-point fuel injection petrol engine.
The engine is Euro IV compliant.

The safety really really basic, but that's all you need when the top speed is 90kmph. It has
all sheet-metal body, it has a strong passenger compartment, with safety features such as crumple zones, intrusion-resistant doors, seat belts, strong seats and anchorages, and the rear tailgate glass bonded to the body. I also has tubeless tyres.

It does 23 km/liter.
A diesel version is expected soon.


RE: Pimp my ride
By PrezWeezy on 1/10/2008 1:40:20 PM , Rating: 3
I'd get one for my teen daughter just learning to drive. Then when she wrecks it I don't really care. And it can't go fast enough for her to get hurt anyway.


RE: Pimp my ride
By AlexandertheBlue on 1/10/2008 1:55:45 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
And it can't go fast enough for her to get hurt anyway


If only that were true.


RE: Pimp my ride
By Lifted on 1/11/2008 12:51:12 AM , Rating: 2
Tata's are just a POS with a low price. You'll be lucky to get 3 years out of it, and that's with thousands in maintenance.


RE: Pimp my ride
By FITCamaro on 1/10/2008 1:56:41 PM , Rating: 3
You apparently don't realize just how much damage can happen at 60 mph. Even 40 mph. Go look at some accident photos of crashes at 40-60 mph. And this thing probably isn't anywhere near as strong as an American car. I doubt it'd get a 1 star crash rating. Crumple zones don't mean its safe. Just that it folds up. And with it having no real front end, its going to fold up into you.

And its not always a matter of how fast you're going. If someone in an SUV hits you in one of those, you probably won't live through it.


RE: Pimp my ride
By xsilver on 1/11/2008 8:14:19 AM , Rating: 2
If everybody started buying monster trucks and started driving those around everyone driving a SUV would be complaining because of the safety hazard they pose (being so easily crushed by a monster truck and all)

And thats why everybody prefers to buy a SUV, because they'd rather hit someone in a hatchback and destroy them than be the one being destroyed in the hatchback.

I think certain parts of england banning SUV's and/or imposing increased parking fees for downtown areas can really give people incentive to change.


RE: Pimp my ride
By Arribajuan on 1/10/2008 3:44:04 PM , Rating: 3
The interesting thing here is safety, how well will this do in a crash?


RE: Pimp my ride
By Samus on 1/10/2008 4:49:50 PM , Rating: 2
Better than a scooter. Case closed.


RE: Pimp my ride
By martinrichards23 on 1/11/2008 5:51:23 AM , Rating: 2
When talking about safety, you compare to the best, not the worst.

When you fly do you tell your family not to worry because its safer than a biplane?


RE: Pimp my ride
By jtesoro on 1/11/2008 8:07:14 AM , Rating: 2
You would if your family regularly flies by biplane.

As mentioned before, this is meant to be a substitute for the ubiquitous scooter and motorcycle in India.


RE: Pimp my ride
By xsilver on 1/11/2008 8:17:29 AM , Rating: 5
When you drive, are you worried that your vehicle is not as safe as an Abrams tank?
Not being able to absorb mortar shells is always of concern ;)


RE: Pimp my ride
By Alexstarfire on 1/10/2008 5:52:17 PM , Rating: 2
Well, other than it only attaining 68MPH as a top speed it's not bad. Fot it to work in the States they'd have to get the top speed up to 80-85MPH. It'll be slightly more expensive, but shouldn't be too much.

If you guys want to look at safety just look at F1 cars and all that. They don't really have much space when it comes to safety, since they try to make the car as small as possible, but it has much better safety than any car we have on the road. Of course it costs a ton more, but that's not the point. The point is that you can have lots of safety even though there isn't much space for it in the car.


RE: Pimp my ride
By elpresidente2075 on 1/11/2008 2:08:07 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Of course it costs a ton more, but that's not the point.


Unfortunately that is the point. You must pay for that extra safety. And pay you would, were it offered.

Fortunately (as many others have pointed out, including the article), this is designed to replace scooters and small motorbikes. In fact, it has a motorcycle engine in it. So, in essence it is little more than a go-kart that seats five. And has no roll cage. And is street-ready.


RE: Pimp my ride
By rudy on 1/11/2008 8:31:37 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe, at least in the US a major driving force behind an auto purchase is safty, and you wont get that out of a tin can with a motor cycle engine. Anything hits you, probably even a harley and you are dead. This is why you see so many guys buying their bad driving wives SUVs. Sure she cant drive well but at least when she has an accident everyone but here will be dead.


RE: Pimp my ride
By PrasVT on 1/10/2008 12:40:43 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm you could probably mount one 20" spinner on the back like a jeep. Otherwise, I suppose you could raise the suspension lol.


RE: Pimp my ride
By Mitch101 on 1/10/2008 2:34:32 PM , Rating: 5
That might cause it to tip over.


RE: Pimp my ride
By ImSpartacus on 1/10/2008 4:49:59 PM , Rating: 2
LOL. I wish I had some votes left...


RE: Pimp my ride
By EglsFly on 1/10/2008 5:03:36 PM , Rating: 1
No NANO for me, I think I will stick with my EVO for now. :-)


Not really animed at Americans...
By Combatcolin on 1/10/2008 1:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
Considering most Americans couldn't even get into this car even if they wanted to i dought it will ever be released in the States.

Would be a near perfect city though though.




RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By TomZ on 1/10/2008 1:15:11 PM , Rating: 2
My prediction - you heard it here first - ultra low-cost cars from India, China, etc. will be brought to America and will fundamentally change the "traditional" auto market from what it is today. Stay tuned...


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By rudy on 1/11/2008 8:36:19 PM , Rating: 2
Why? They already exist over in most of asia, nothing needs to be done to bring them here except pop them on a boat, so why has it not already happened? Read my above post, the person in the largest vehicle wins in a collision and while few admit it, it drives buying choices. Also when people are set to choose a car they will usually choose extra space in case they may ever need it. I don't need anything more then a basic 4 door normally. But I buy a truck for the times I can use it to haul things. Too much is a safer bet then to little. You just pay extra in gas.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By Chris Peredun on 1/10/2008 1:18:25 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps, like the smart fortwo , the car will be beta-tested in "America's Hat" first - and if interest is high enough, it will come south.

Whether or not it can meet NA crash standards is another matter entirely.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By TomZ on 1/10/2008 1:29:29 PM , Rating: 2
There's no chance it can meet US standards and regulations at that price point - impossible.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By eye smite on 1/10/2008 1:48:13 PM , Rating: 2
Don't think that it won't if tata is looking at buying jaguar and land rover from ford. They'll get a wealth of knowledge from that. I'd buy one, I'm tired of paying $3 a gallon for gas. Why not have a car that goes 500 miles on one tank.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By Chris Peredun on 1/10/2008 1:53:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why not have a car that goes 500 miles on one tank.


With a four-gallon tank, it won't be this one. Perhaps I can interest you in a Honda Civic VX - 57mpg city, 66mpg highway - and a massive-by-comparison 1.5L engine making a "mighty" 102hp?

If you're lucky, you might even find one in good shape for the Nano's $2,500 sticker price.


By crystal clear on 1/10/2008 2:34:41 PM , Rating: 1
Is this a refined version of the famous "Rickshaw" you see in India-you know those 3 wheelers .....

If you happen to be in India take a ride in the rickshaw....
some experience indeed.


By Davelo on 1/10/2008 5:40:27 PM , Rating: 2
I used to have one of those Honda Civic VX cars. Not a bad little dude. The tranny had real tall gears. It was hard to get rolling but once you got the RPMs up it would go like a scalded cat. You could hit 60 mph in 2nd gear!


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By dubldwn on 1/10/2008 2:14:28 PM , Rating: 1
Many of us wouldn’t buy this vehicle because of our interest in self-respect, appropriate levels of safety, appreciation for ascetics, desire for performance, and the ability to purchase a much more substantial vehicle that gets reasonable gas milage. For city driving I would buy golf cart before I bought this because I would feel better about myself and there’s significant humor value. You have to draw the line somewhere, and the line is far above the Nano.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By kkwst2 on 1/10/2008 9:14:11 PM , Rating: 4
"Appreciation of ascetics" and "desire for performance" seem to be mutually exclusive. Perhaps if your vocabulary were larger than your pride, you wouldn't turn your nose. There are many people whose self-worth isn't defined by what they drive that would be interested in a frugal car such as this. You might realize this if you really had an "appreciation of ascetics." :)

(I'm assuming you meant aesthetics.)


By dubldwn on 1/10/2008 9:38:44 PM , Rating: 1
Ha! Nice catch! The irony is killing me! I'm assuming the rest of your post is a joke (like the Nano) and you, like me, wouldn't be caught dead in one of these (pardon the pun)!


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By TomZ on 1/10/2008 2:22:35 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Don't think that it won't if tata is looking at buying jaguar and land rover from ford.

Meeting US safety standards is not limited by knowledge; it's limited by the cost in this case. US regulations are very expensive to implement - they add a lot of cost to cars today - specifically material costs. And there have been many very smart people working on cutting those costs where possible for many years.


By murphyslabrat on 1/11/2008 4:21:36 PM , Rating: 2
Well, then I hope that they either find a way to do it, or sell them in America as toys or scooters.

I ride a bycicle as my primary transportation, and that does get quite tiring at times. For $2,500 I could get an O.K. used car, certainly one that's better than this one, but this is $2,500 for a new car.

With speed limits (in the USA) of 70MPH on the highway, and 25MPH in residential/40MPH in rural or on main roads, we don't need cars that can top out at 180MPH. Even 120MPH is quite excessive. However, we Americans (gosh isn't that an ethnocentric name) are a very hype-driven people. Even if we never exceed 80MPH, most wouldn't look twice at a car unable to hit 120MPH. Even if the lowered acceleration rates only added 5 minutes to every hour's city-driving, we wouldn't look twice at it.

I don't know much about cars, but I know oodles about PC's; and I see the same trends there. I barely kept my cool with the last customer who insisted that the Radeon 2600 was better than the GeForce 7900, based solely on pipelines(they equated that with stream processors) and dx10 support.

While power is nice to have, it is ridiculous to demand power far in excess of anything you will ever use, especially when that ignorance is driving up entry-level prices for me.

In case you hadn't guessed, I think that this car and the EEE PC (and this new CloudBook) are a great gain for consumers. The only problem is when they start demanding performance levels belonging to higher classes out of these products.

Let's hear it for the consumer!


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By cochy on 1/10/2008 2:58:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
America's Hat


Ha. Are you talking about Canada? Never heard that one before. Funny Americans.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By christojojo on 1/10/2008 3:35:43 PM , Rating: 2
if he was referring to Canada he would have said...

America's back up army (no, no, never would be believed)

America's gorgeous neighbor (no, still not right)

America's doughnut stand (maybe, if he was referring to Canada's only worth while export. See I even ignored that funny thing sticking out of the shuttle. ;) )

America's number one ballet destination

http://www.adultentertainmentassociation.ca/

(well at least my mother now has a place to work (eeeewww))

Yes Canada's motto is

"Canada supplying Ugly American with vices since .... a shit I should have gone to the University"


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By Oroka on 1/10/2008 4:20:51 PM , Rating: 2
or maybe

"those American's up north that wont shoot my ass with a semi-automatic assault rifle"

or

"those people up north who didnt vote a majority for Dubbya"

BTW, Canada dosent want your mom, we have a 16 tooth minumum.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By christojojo on 1/10/2008 4:48:16 PM , Rating: 2
for the last time P. M. Harper if you don't leave money leave my momma alone.

P.s. we did vote a mojority for Dubbya. Yep, each oil company has a million votes everyone else .0001.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By Darkskypoet on 1/10/2008 10:23:50 PM , Rating: 2
Those people up north that sell us a crap load of oil? Donuts... Ha. Ha. funny. Try your largest allied energy supplier. Oil, Electric, Natural Gas, etc.

Thank you for being able to remember we are that massive, larger landmass to the north of you. It's amazing how many Americans can't find us on the map.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By christojojo on 1/10/2008 10:33:17 PM , Rating: 2
Its not that we can find you its just that there is not real point. ;)


By christojojo on 1/10/2008 10:38:02 PM , Rating: 2
The one thing worse than insulting you is making errors in the insult.

Humbly yours,

From the fifty "thingies" that are full of "stupid mericans" that your country has made a sport making fun of. ;)


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By Zoomer on 1/10/2008 8:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
The New York Times stated that safety equipment in US cars costs about $2000. No chance, indeed.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By TomZ on 1/10/2008 8:49:12 PM , Rating: 2
That's probably just the "safety" standards. There are also emissions and diagnostics requirements that must be met for the US market, plus some other things I'm not even thinking about.


RE: Not really animed at Americans...
By AntiM on 1/10/2008 2:07:39 PM , Rating: 2
Look at it this way.... I would imagine that it could probably serve the needs of most Americans 50% of the time. I've always thought that I could use a scooter for most of my driving, which is mostly around the city. I wouldn't do it though, for fear of looking like a dork. If everyone had one of these and used it whenever possible instead of their "normal" vehicle, this country could cut its fuel consumption by 30% or more. That would be a significant decrease in demand. Although, I doubt most Americans would want to be seen in such a thing.


Whats with that?
By MrBungle123 on 1/10/2008 12:35:29 PM , Rating: 2
why are they putting the instrument pannel on these tiny cars in the center of the dash? You would think it would be more comfortable to read with it behind the steering wheel.




RE: Whats with that?
By FITCamaro on 1/10/2008 12:48:48 PM , Rating: 2
Saturn did the same thing for a little while. They put it where you could see it without looking down. It actually wasn't bad. Takes a little getting used to but after that, its second nature. It's not a bad idea either.


RE: Whats with that?
By jtesoro on 1/11/2008 8:23:07 AM , Rating: 2
If I'm not mistaken, another reason for the center console is that it is cheaper to manufacture if you make both right- and left-hand drive models of the same car. Plus points on the cost side.


RE: Whats with that?
By Nightskyre on 1/10/2008 12:50:57 PM , Rating: 2
This tactic was also done with the Toyota Echo. My understanding is that its less costly to flip the dash for left side drive.

What I'm wondering is why they don't have a two seater option with a wagon like trunk.


RE: Whats with that?
By Amiga500 on 1/10/2008 12:52:44 PM , Rating: 2
I think its so switching the steering from left to right hand drive is slightly easier.


Top speed
By Some1ne on 1/10/2008 3:40:01 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The time to reach the stated maximum speed of 68mph was not given.


I regularly drive closer to 80mph on the highway, and expect my car to at least be able to attain 100mph or more. Their car will never succeed in the U.S. as a "people's car" until they fix this problem. It will be more like a "toy car for people who can afford to have a second car in addition to their real car", as nobody in their right mind would rely on such an underpowered vehicle as their sole/primary mode of transportation...not if they ever plan on doing any highway driving whatsoever, at any rate.




RE: Top speed
By Oroka on 1/10/2008 4:15:05 PM , Rating: 1
I wouldnt use your 100mph car in a race either. The Nano is not ment for N American freeways, just as your car is not ment for Nascar. The Nano would be a good teen car, city car. It will not haul a trailer home from park to park.

The only thing that will keep Nano's out of mainstream America is American's need for huge, overpowered, gas guzzeling boats. Alot of people would rather pay it out the butt for gas than park thier H2 or F250 thier wife drivers to the grocerie store.


RE: Top speed
By Some1ne on 1/10/2008 5:13:39 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I wouldnt use your 100mph car in a race either. The Nano is not ment for N American freeways


Then they shouldn't be marketing it as "the people's car", at least not within North America. The vast majority of people take their cars out onto the freeways at least occasionally, and a car that isn't designed to handle that reasonably just isn't going to be able to gain the favor of very many people.

There's no reason to expect that my 100 mph be able to compete in a race, because nobody tries to market or position it as a racing car. However, when a company dubs their product "the people's car", they imply that it can do everything that people generally expect their car to do. Thus, it's completely reasonable to expect their "people's car" to be able to handle highway driving, and it's completely reasonable to be disappointed about the fact that it cannot.


RE: Top speed
By InTheNameOfMyself on 1/14/2008 12:15:33 AM , Rating: 2
Well it's the people's car for India !

Who said it was made for the US?

Are you OK??


RE: Top speed
By Zoomer on 1/10/2008 8:48:46 PM , Rating: 2
The New York Times reported that to save a few cents, they used cheaper bolts for the tires. These will wear very quickly above 40 mph.

You couldn't pay me to drive one of these cars.


RE: Top speed
By djc208 on 1/10/2008 9:09:42 PM , Rating: 2
I think you're missing the point this car, or one like it, would play if it were available in America. This would be a good commuter car for people who live closer to work, or in big cities, or very small towns. You may need that SUV or pickup truck you drive for family trips or running errands, but it's overkill for going to work every day.

With a small cheap car like this you can have a second car for the commute to work. It gives better mileage, is easier to park and cheap enough you don't have to worry about it getting damaged.

People who don't have any vehicle and need a car cheap (in the US) would be better off with a small used regular car since this isn't well suited for high speeds, long trips, or larger loads.


Encouraging death?
By darkpaw on 1/10/2008 3:45:22 PM , Rating: 2
The way that thing looks, might as well just sell suicide booths for the same price.

It'll accomplish the same thing.

It may only do 40 MPH, but I've been in a minor accident at around 30 MPH in a much larger vehical and broke bones. That thing is asking for it.

Sure wouldn't be much left if it hit even a person or animal at 40 MPH.




RE: Encouraging death?
By redSun on 1/10/2008 7:13:43 PM , Rating: 2
Sigh....

They call it the "people's car" because everyone (relatively) can afford it, not because everyone will want one. (Just imagine: "The Jaguar SLBlahdeblah, the People's car." I'd soil myself laughing.)

Everyone is comparing this car to American vehicles. This is wrong because, as other posters have already pointed out, it's in the same price-category as a scooter. It looks a lot better in the new light, no?

Just because it doesn't have a fire in its belly it doesn't mean you have to hate it. Then again, I'm from NYC, so things/people with fires in their bellies worry me...


RE: Encouraging death?
By Some1ne on 1/10/2008 7:27:54 PM , Rating: 2
I think most of the comparison to American cars stems from the last line of the article:

quote:
Tata Motors could very well make this pocket-sized commuter car a reality in North America.


People are just pointing out that that prediction will never happen unless several issues, such as safety and the underpowered engine, are addressed first.


RE: Encouraging death?
By Manch on 1/10/2008 8:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Sure wouldn't be much left if it hit even a person or animal at 40 MPH.


Could you imagine if you hit a frickin deer! I think the deer would stand a better chance


eh...
By PrasVT on 1/10/2008 12:28:17 PM , Rating: 2
Keep in mind that most cars in India are similarly powered, since 1+ billion people = more clogged roads. So 43mph is probably about as fast as anyone can go in most places. I still remember driving to Agra (taj mahal) from Delhi and it took about 6 hours to go about 200 miles. Still, the interior is a bit dated. Frankly, it's ugly as sin. Just think, Jaguar and Land Rover may soon be owned by Tata (if not already).




RE: eh...
By Crystalysis on 1/10/2008 12:52:29 PM , Rating: 2
I completely remember the ride from Delhi to Agra was insanity! It didn't take me 6 hours but it did certainly take at least 4 or so. Maximum speed anywhere in India is about 40mph. Any faster and you crush the multitude of people riding motorcycles or peddling bikes.


RE: eh...
By Jaylllo on 1/10/2008 1:29:22 PM , Rating: 2
I'd wager driving from/to Washington DC to NYC start at rush hour will take you 6 hours.

40mph is not that bad for as far as traffic goes.


"Achmed the dead terrorist" says...
By tallcool1 on 1/10/2008 1:29:35 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
That is not a car, that is a lunchbox.
Do you know that if you are driving down the highway and put your hand out the window, the vehicle will turn!




By FITCamaro on 1/10/2008 2:29:07 PM , Rating: 2
ROFL!

I got to see Jeff Dunham live here in Charleston. It was one of the funniest things I've ever experienced. There was a dude in the front row who pissed him off early on by refusing to participate and then flipping him off. Jeff ragged on him the entire night.

Don't worry. He gave the guy a free t-shirt at the end.


33hp?!
By Wagnbat on 1/10/2008 4:39:56 PM , Rating: 2
Thirty three horsepower and seats five?!?!

0-60 must be like 5 minutes.

I wonder how the fuel economy holds up with a full load of people.




RE: 33hp?!
By ImSpartacus on 1/10/2008 4:53:05 PM , Rating: 2
Well do you mean indians or westerners, becuase there would be about a 300lbs difference at the least (120lbs indian, 180lbs westerner).

I guess us Americans take for granted that most vehicles that hit our shores can load up 5-6 300lbs people.


Thumbs down
By rsasp on 1/11/2008 5:05:11 PM , Rating: 2
What's the point creating a low cost car if the consumer can not afford the gas and insurance? look at how much the gasoline cost(average of $1/L in Ontario), and insurance is like $400-450 depends on your age,etc... all of those adds up it will cost a lot.

This car is a bad idea
If they are poor they should just take public transit, it saves money and enviorment.




RE: Thumbs down
By rudy on 1/11/2008 8:40:41 PM , Rating: 2
Public transportation is not always cheaper, in many under developed places it can be a down right rip off. Especially if you add in that you end up getting in a taxi when you get close to your destination. The bigger problem for all of these developing nations is where are you going to park all these cars in cities that are not built like American cities. Even here large cities are a mess but goto a place like bangkok and you have to get up 4 hours early to travel what takes us 15 minutes. The more people who buy cars the worse it gets.


Two things...
By Nfarce on 1/10/2008 5:17:28 PM , Rating: 1
First, those who think this car will "fit 50% of America's typical driving needs" need to ask the family of Leslie Ann Pluhar their opinion about the vehicular "needs" of US drivers. Ms. Pluhar's 1987 Yugo was blown off the Mackinac Bridge in Michigan during high winds in 1989 - and died 150 feet later in the water below.

Second, I find it most humorous that the enviroweenie activists are all upset at this 54mpg econobox being produced. Why? They are afraid it will cause more harm to the environment as millions will eventually be around the globe, mostly in developing nations.

Isn't that hilarious? What, do they just want nations like India and Bangladesh to continue driving carbon smoking piles of 1970s junk and methane-producing farting jackasses strapped to carts?

"The idea of millions of Nanos on the road alarms environmentalists. Rajendra Pachauri, the chief UN climate scientist, said last month that he was “having nightmares” about it."

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_styl...

LMAO.




RE: Two things...
By christojojo on 1/10/2008 5:31:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
methane-producing farting jackasses strapped to carts?


Lol, My wife just called my sons that sans carts.


What a beast!
By Captain Orgazmo on 1/10/2008 8:09:14 PM , Rating: 3
That car is too damn big. I need something I can use to drive to the fridge for a beer or to the crapper. More like this car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=patvUFyIa1I




By christojojo on 1/10/2008 1:44:27 PM , Rating: 2
Not only will that one come out but a few other versions were revealed.

Check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmft-uYIZEQ&feature...




Whats this....
By crystal clear on 1/10/2008 2:05:29 PM , Rating: 2
Reading this article gives me an impression thats it more of a sales promotion than anything else.

Tata makes licensed clones of the mercedes also, good for India market only.

Sorry doesnt impress neither as a car or as a sales promotion.




Yaabaadaabaa-dooo!
By Oroka on 1/10/2008 3:15:34 PM , Rating: 2
The Luxury model comes with a turbo option, holes in the floor where you can stick your feet out to give a boost ala Fred Flintstone and go from 0-43 in 10.6 seconds.

This would make a good first car for teens. Hell, someone rear ended me in the summer and it cost $3500 to fix the bumper! So if a teen ends it in a (small) ball of flames, you're only out $2500 (and one dumb teen).




Just asking...
By diego10arg on 1/10/2008 3:44:31 PM , Rating: 2
Am I the only one who think this is a great idea no just for India but also many other countries?

OK, it is not a stylish car, it won't be a record-car in almost every point you would expect to, but I feel I need to say that not everything goes around what North Americans want/like.

No one will stop you from buying an SUV with a V10 8.2 Liter Engine, so just let it be as what it is, a small ultra-compact cheap car, targeted not for North Americans.

I do not want to be mean in any way, I think I just understand the car, from a different point of view due to the fact that I am do not live in the US.




its a car for the common indian
By mahendra083 on 1/11/2008 8:39:28 AM , Rating: 2
What u guys fail to understand is that the Nano is a car meant for the common Indian most of whom travel by public transport or motorcycles/scooters. Its actually not priced at $2,500 but caries a price tag of Rs. 1,00,000 (Indian rupees), in India this amount is referred to as one lakh rupees. With this car Tata Motors plans to rival the Maruti 800 (the best selling car in India) which costs twice the price of the Nano.
The speed of the car is fine because most Indian cities have a speed limit of 50-60 kmph (31.25-37.5 mph).
It called the People's Car because its a car meant for the common indian who dreams of buying a car but can't afford most the existing cars in the market.
So therefore from the indian market point of view its a pretty decent car.
This definitely isn't something meant for the Western World. Cars like the Civic, Camry, etc are considered as high end luxury cars in India.




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