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New chips from TSMC could power advanced gaming consoles, cell phones

The race to shrink microprocessors is never-ending.  Intel announced plans for processors composed of 22nm transistors, which will arrive in 2011.  AMD has not yet aired concrete plans that far in advance, as it about to hit 45nm at last at the end of the year.  IBM recently announced it will hit 32nm in 2009 and may be the first to hit 22nm in 2010 by using a unique process that allows 32nm equipment to be adapted to 22nm use.

With IBM, Intel, and AMD in heated competition for high end CPUs for computer processors, gaming consoles and other devices, the other two realms seeing competition are memory and gadget processors.  Memory on the 45 nm node is currently being deployed by Intel and Texas Instruments.  Both companies will soon be looking to transition to 32 nm.

In the realm of gadgets processors, there is perhaps an even greater demand for smaller, more energy efficient, and more powerful processors leading to even greater pressure to reach die-shrinks.  Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd (TSMC), the world's largest contract chip maker, whose production is largely geared towards gadget-level processors found in such devices as phones and MP3 players, announced plans to start using 28nm technology in its fabs by 2010

Competitor United Microelectronics Corp (UMC) and other smaller companies are also racing to reach 22nm or 28nm nodes, but TSMC believes it will be smallest when its chips hit the market.

Jason Chen, a TSMC vice president stated, "Product differentiation, faster time-to-market and investment optimization are the three most important values TSMC delivers to our customers.  In support of these values, we are developing this comprehensive 28nm technology family so that it offers choices, depending on the customer applications and performance requirements."

TSMC says that its 28nm chips will offer 50 percent more speed and 30-50 percent less power consumption than its current 40nm low power node.  The chips will be aimed largely at the cellular baseband and wireless connectivity component market.

Both NVIDIA and Texas Instruments rely on TSMC for many of their chips.  Thus, the new TSMC chips should help to power the next generation of gaming graphics processors as well. 

Aside from the power savings afforded by shorter interconnects, the die shrink will allow more transistors to be packed onto an equivalent area, allowing for more complex designs.  The shrink should also help to increase chip yield, which result in cost savings, both to TSMC and its customers.  However, TSMC is surely spending a pretty penny to lead the charge to sub-32nm transistors.



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Can't wait...
By CyberHawk on 10/1/2008 4:21:30 PM , Rating: 2
... to see how this "beasts" will overclock :D




RE: Can't wait...
By SiN on 10/1/2008 7:42:39 PM , Rating: 5
Why? do you have a need to overclock your MP3 player?


RE: Can't wait...
By phatboye on 10/1/2008 9:56:57 PM , Rating: 2
I just overclocked my DSP in my TV, It still can't handle crysis though =/


RE: Can't wait...
By codeThug on 10/1/2008 10:03:10 PM , Rating: 4
Black Sabbath on 78 speed...


huh
By RaptorZA on 10/1/2008 4:07:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Both NVIDIA and Texas Instruments rely on TSMC for many of their chips. Thus, the new TSMC chips should help to power the next generation of gaming graphics processors as well.


doesn't make sense

shouldn't it read both nvidia and amd(graphics)/ati




RE: huh
By therealnickdanger on 10/1/2008 4:16:14 PM , Rating: 2
I suppose it could be worded better, but it makes sense. NVIDIA makes GPUs, so the fact that it relies on TSMC may affect its GPUs. TI doesn't have to make GPUs for the statement of reliablity on TSMC to be true.


RE: huh
By nosfe on 10/1/2008 4:36:42 PM , Rating: 2
considering that TI is the third biggest chip manufacturer in the world(it means that they have a ton of fabs) i find if unlikely that they would have to rely on TSMC for manufacturing anything


RE: huh
By PandaBear on 10/5/2008 3:11:43 AM , Rating: 2
Because having TSMC building it is cheaper than TI building their own fab.

TSMC has a utilization rate of 85%-95% and spend billions on the latest R&D that TI couldn't afford. TI is expert in designing chips and TSMC in building them, they are 2 different kinds of skills.


RE: huh
By TETRONG on 10/1/2008 6:37:50 PM , Rating: 2
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RE: huh
By someguy123 on 10/1/2008 7:47:30 PM , Rating: 2
what does this have to do with this article? I don't see any ATi bashing. if you're talking about this sentence that included T.I. instead of AMD that looks like a mistake if you ask me, just like the missing "is" in the sentence "as it ( is ) about to hit 45nm". looks like this article was just rushed/copy pasted, not anti-AMD.


Can we expect ATI doing this next?
By Clauzii on 10/2/2008 2:15:35 AM , Rating: 2
"...than its (TSMCs) current 40nm low power node."

I mean, 4870 X2 in one chip with the amount of power usage as the current single chip ones would be awesome!

Only problem, I can't see any 40nm process listed on TSMCs site?




RE: Can we expect ATI doing this next?
By Calin on 10/2/2008 7:29:18 AM , Rating: 2
It's the future process, right now they are using largely 55nm (at least for NVidia chips)


RE: Can we expect ATI doing this next?
By Clauzii on 10/2/2008 11:07:24 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, 45nm would be the next logical step for ATI. My question was if ATI by any change could skip 45nm and go directly to 40nm and if this said 40nm even excist somewhere on TSMCs site?

NVidia are on 65nm I think. ATI is on 55nm :)


By Clauzii on 10/5/2008 8:28:35 PM , Rating: 2
I just found out that 40nm IS THE NEXT STEP! Nice, ATI :D

http://www.hartware.de/showpic.php?type=news&id=45...


When I read about this...
By Oralen on 10/2/2008 3:40:11 AM , Rating: 2
I can't help but to wonder what will happen next.

Surely at one point, current technology will hit a wall, and shrinking the process will become impossible.

And it might not be such a bad thing...

When Intel hit the thermal wall, with Prescott, look what happened:

A industry wide shift away from the high frequency race and monolithic core, and all of a sudden multi-core and efficiency becomes the key elements.

So, when the current technology will show it's limits, it might provoke such a revolution, but in the manufacturing of semiconductors.

This means that I find myself divided:

One the one hand I would like those new process to work, and fast because it would means cooler and faster devices for everybody...

And on the other... I would like all of the manufacturers to fail miserably in their shrinking efforts...

Because then they might be forced to invent the next big technology which could bring us even more powerful chips...




RE: When I read about this...
By SexyK on 10/2/2008 7:36:55 AM , Rating: 2
Don't worry, no need to be divided, there are plenty of people who are working on what's "next" as we speak. The end of the line for process shrinks has been on the horizon for a while now. We don't need technology to stop in its tracks today in order to reach that next big breakthrough tomorrow.


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