Sources: YouTube, Daily Mail
quote: If the government didn't make you submit to scans/searches- the commercial entities would likely make it a part of the contract of sale for the ticket that you submit to their own screenings.
quote: No, because if that were true, we'd see it manifest in countries where the security is not as draconian (the same companies that operate here also operate there).
quote: It's a clumsy attempt
quote: In my argument- I actually suggested a practical alternative to critiquing drink testing- challenging the no fly lists.
quote: Before the September 11, 2001 attacks, airport screening was provided by private companies which were contracted with the airline or airport.
quote: Trying to distract form an issue by saying "look over there!" is not a valid form of argument; you are simply sidestepping the case under discussion.
quote: And was it liquid vendor sold drinks that caused 9/11? No, it was physical people with physical box cutters who physically controlled the planes to fly into things. A very different security issue than liquids sold by security screened vendors behind security gates!
quote: Given that it is fairly easy to create explosives from household cleaning products (that are likely located at airports by the vendors themselves, along with other staff), it is not inconceivable that a maniac might try to assemble one after they've passed the gate, concealed in regular containers.
quote: We live in a day where a person will gun down several people and shoot themselves in the head after they're done. There's no telling what a crazy person might try next, let alone a terrorist.
quote: Yup even with terrorist trying to blow up planes
quote: "An armed society is a polite society.
quote: by croc on September 6, 2012 at 1:34 AMI might point out that R.A.H. was a writer of science-fiction, not a philosopher, not a statesman...As long as you keep your 'heat' off of any transportation that I am on, we're cool. And please don't even THINK about bringing it into my house, my city, my country... As a matter of fact, just stay away. We don't need your kind around here.
quote: Demonstrate specifics to me. If you're talking about a country where security is already undermined for other reasons (ie- it doesn't make sense to enhance security at the gate because the airfield is accessible and unprotected), or it's not a country as threatened by terrorism as the US, then you don't really have a point.
quote: So you prefer no attempt?
quote: Commercial screening was not any of the things are you trying to claim it would be, history already disproves your point.
quote: Inadequate commercial screening resulted in airplanes crashing into buildings.
quote: Meanwhile, airlines are kicking passengers off for this: today: http://now.msn.com/airline-claims-this-traveler-is...
quote: Also, ever think someone might place a caustic liquid like acid or who knows what, to sabotage the flight in some way?
quote: Why would they test for one paticular type of explosive? Why would they test everybody on that paticular type of explosives? Why would they test regular folks with approved bought beverages on one paticular type of explosive?
quote: I'm sorry but it doesn't add up. It doesn't make logical or reasonable sense, the gain is far too small (read: not there) in order to have this test conducted in the name of safety. You can tell those people aren't a threat just by looking at them. So why test them? Everything humans do happens for a reason, though we might not always understand it.
quote: It's clear those TSA people aren't at fault. Belive it or not, everybody can be brainwashed to turn on their fellow man as long as it happens gradually enough, and affects only a few at once (the nazi's started with putting jews in ghetto's before deportation, removing them from the general populace and thus their impact on them). This might also be training for them. They might not actually be testing anything. After all, the possibility of a positive is negligibly small.
quote: RE: Not about chemicals By GotThumbs on 9/5/2012 1:22:04 PM , Rating: 2 Well the fact that you do not own the plane is important to remember. Also, ever think someone might place a caustic liquid like acid or who knows what, to sabotage the flight in some way? Personally, my one single goal when I do choose to fly is arrive alive. I could care less about some whiny persons personal freedoms. Go buy your own plane if you have a problem with it. Don't be too naive to think something can't happen to you....I'm sure a few passengers on the planes on 9/11 thought the same thing.
quote: For those who find the TSA requirements too imposing, I suggest you take the bus.
quote: "They're worried someone could bring an ingredient past security and then mix it with a drink that turns into something else - a poison or something else."