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TSA insists improperly redacted manual will not affect airport security

Since September 11, 2001, airport security has been a huge concern for travelers and for the U.S. government. Many new security procedures have been started since the attacks and remain in place today to protect travelers and the country as a whole.

Unfortunately, the TSA has accidentally posted an improperly redacted manual that some say could be used as a roadmap to allow terrorists to get through security checkpoints at an airport. The TSA operating manual was placed on a federal procurement website last spring and offered up details of airport security. Among the details the handbook offered were technical settings for X-ray machines and explosives detectors and details on passenger and luggage screening.

Reuters reports that TSA officials have confirmed the "lapse" and according to former TSA officials, the handbook exposed practices that were implemented after September 11 and following other security incidents. The document totaled 93 pages and included pictures of credentials used by U.S. lawmakers, CIA employees, and federal air marshals.

The TSA issued a statement saying, "An outdated, unclassified version of a Standard Operating Procedures was improperly posted by the agency to the Federal Business Opportunities website, wherein redacted information was not properly protected." The TSA also stated that "while the document does demonstrate the complexities of checkpoint security, it does not contain information related to the specifics of everyday checkpoint screening procedures."

The document also included specifics on passenger nationalities that require special scrutiny when traveling by air. ABC News reports that the manual calls out travelers with passports from Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, Yemen or Algeria for special attention during screenings.

Another tidbit that the document exposed was that the screens at checkpoints can reduce from 100% to 25% the times they use a black light to authenticate documents. Coupled with the images of credentials that allow certain law enforcement officers to get on a plane with weapons some fear that fake credentials could be used to get past security.

Former Air Marshal Robert MacLean, who was fired after the 9-11 attacks for revealing security holes, states, "Screening is like a big puzzle and this SOP gives you directions on putting the puzzle together."

The TSA is conducting a full review of the leak and some are calling for an independent review according to the L.A. Times. The document in question was redacted on the website, but the redacted information was clearly seen with a simple cut and paste according to reports.

The TSA continued, adding, "TSA has many layers of security to keep the traveling public safe and to constantly adapt to evolving threats. TSA is confident that screening procedures currently in place remain strong."

While the TSA maintains that the procedures in the manual are outdated and have been rewritten numerous times, MacLean doubts their claims. He said, "How much in screening procedure changes in 17 months? It's a one-dimensional process."

An enormous amount of research time and money is being invested in finding new procedures to make security checks at airports more efficient and safe. Researchers at MIT recently announced a new type of scanner that can tell the difference between certain materials inside a bag.



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Can we stop pretending...
By Motoman on 12/9/2009 10:49:42 AM , Rating: 5
...that limiting liquids, putting them in a seperate ziploc bag, taking your shoes off, taking your laptop out of the bag, etc. does anything at all to enhance security?




RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2009 11:02:24 AM , Rating: 1
TWA confiscated my bottle of Vavoom hair gel because it was too big. So the guy says "If I have a plastic bag to put it in, I can carry it. Otherwise we have to take it.". So I asked them if they had any ziploc bags, and he said no.

I looked at him with the most disgusted "you're a thief" face I could possibly make and walked on. You mean to tell me they can't afford to keep ziploc bags on hand for cases like that with all the goddamn money they are stealing from us ?

F you TSA or whoever that guy worked for, you owe me some gel ! And thanks to you, I had bad hair at my sisters wedding. Burn in hell.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/09, Rating: 0
RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Motoman on 12/9/2009 11:44:58 AM , Rating: 5
...no, they just send mail bombs and blow up federal buildings in Kansas City.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/09, Rating: -1
RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Spivonious on 12/9/2009 1:00:57 PM , Rating: 5
Wasn't the guy who tried to blow up his shoes white? He's the reason we have to take off our shoes.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2009 1:55:47 PM , Rating: 1
Nah he was trying to get gum off his show with a match. Come on ! :P


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By ClownPuncher on 12/9/2009 1:42:12 PM , Rating: 2
No, we will never truly be safe, ever.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By maven81 on 12/9/2009 1:46:53 PM , Rating: 5
"White people don't hijack planes, end of story."

Even a 5 second wikipedia search proves you're full of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hija...


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By bissimo on 12/9/2009 3:18:51 PM , Rating: 2
Are you really as blind and bigoted as you come off on this site, or is it all just an act to make you feel like a tough guy?


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By kattanna on 12/9/2009 3:37:20 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
TWA confiscated my bottle of Vavoom hair gel


does a tough guy come to a website to whine about his hair gel?

;>)


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/09, Rating: 0
RE: Can we stop pretending...
By ClownPuncher on 12/9/2009 7:28:17 PM , Rating: 2
How can you be Italian and have great hair? You know y'all never shower!

(joke)


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By lco45 on 12/9/2009 5:29:00 PM , Rating: 1
Well, one pretty obvious problem with profiling is that you are unfairly targeting the 99.99999% of your profile group who aren't planning to hijack a plane, and that can be so annoying you end up with 99.99998%.

Luke


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2009 6:23:44 PM , Rating: 1
I agree that excessive profiling could be bad. However excessive refusal to profiling because of political correctness can be equally bad. I'm sure we've all heard the story of the stupid TSA agents that strip searched a 85 year old grandmother after 911. I mean, come on.

Security is about playing the averages. The only way to catch EVERY threat would be an absolute nightmare for travel. So in order to have a reasonable air travel system without insurmountable delays and hyperactive security agents, you need to profile your threats. Sorry, it's not pretty, it's not popular, but that's just the way it is.

So if out of those "99.999%" resides your hijackers, then sorry, but all of those people need to be profiled. It's the only common sense solution. Assuming EVERYONE is suspicious effects "99.9999%" of ALL travelers.

All in all I think we have done a good job. It's not like back in WWII where we are locking up every single Japanese person. But still.... did they HAVE to confiscate my gel ? That wasn't very white of them. Not at all. ( lol )


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By lco45 on 12/9/2009 5:57:42 PM , Rating: 5
Reclaimer, I'll try and do your profile. Traits from previous posts indicate the following attributes.
- Racist
- Dislikes academics
- Dislikes Obama
- Dislikes efficient cars
- Dislikes government regulation
- Denies anthropogenic global warming
- Likes arguing
- Posts around 50 times a day to Daily Tech

Here's a profile that fits:
- No education beyond high school
- Does a desk job
- Not in a leadership role
- Parents have a small business (eg. tile shop)
- Aged between 25 and 35.
- Male
- Not widely traveled
- Uses Vavoom hair gel

How'd I score?

Luke


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By callmeroy on 12/10/2009 12:07:21 PM , Rating: 2
What's wrong about the second part of your "assessment"?

No education beyond HS --- the three wealthiest people I know (granted two of them are complete jerks) never graduated HS...

Does a desk job -- um..so do millions of others....what's the point here?

Not in a leadership role --- my brother makes $80k a year for his desk job and yet technically he has no "leadership" role in the company -- he merely programs and does his assigned projects....I'll take $80k a year for no leadership role...

Parents have a small business --- again so? WTF cares?

Aged between 25 - 35 -- me too.

Male -- me too

Not widely travelled --- the one thing that could have merit in your list....if you visit other cultures you tend to (or at least most "normal" people do) appreciate them more.

Anyway..I think Law Enforcement SHOULD be allowed to profile, its super stupid that we care more in this country about not offending someone over security.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By hyvonen on 12/10/2009 3:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, why so sensitive? I think Luke's profile is probably accurate. Seems like you do, too. So, what's the problem?


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 12/10/2009 5:11:47 PM , Rating: 2
You can hurt one's feeling when you profile even if the profile is 100% correct. That's the probem... the nation is becoming to soft. Even back in cavemen days hunters I bet profiled - which guy will be best at which task, which animal in a pack will be best to go after.... Point being I do not think humans can live a day without profiling others around them. We just need to get over it. If you don't want to get pulled over a searched for drug and what not... well then don't dress and act like a drug dealer. It's more or less that simple, and of course yes I understand not that easy at the same time but it is a starting point if nothing else.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By lco45 on 12/10/2009 5:45:25 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer, please don't take my "profile" the wrong way. I fit most of those attributes myself. I enjoy our banter on DailyTech as much as the next bored desk jockey.

I was just trying to highlight that profiling, even though it works and is natural to us, can cause offense, which just increases the problem we are trying stamp out.

Luke


By Seemonkeyscanfly on 12/10/2009 6:02:25 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you... again comes to we are just to soft as a nation. So what if you are profile or fit a profile. If you have done nothing wrong you may experience a bad day once in a blue moon but not end up in trouble. However, if we clear some "bad" guys off the streets and I get pulled over or to the side and asked some deeper questions in the process once in a while - so what... I'll deal with it. There are bad people out there and there are good people then there are the poor guys who have to find the bad people amongst the good ones - not an easy job.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By callmeroy on 12/11/2009 11:51:12 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry if you mistook my posting for any sensitivity....

that's kind of amusing to me because I wasn't expecting that kind of a reply.

I'm merely just posting to cast my opinion and to be a part of the discussion....this is a discussion forum isn't it?

And, btw, I'm actually *FOR* profiling by law enforcement. To me its beyond the definition of stupid that our law enforcement agencies can't profile.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By lco45 on 12/13/2009 6:01:56 PM , Rating: 2
I would say they actually do profile, just can't put it in any official documentation.

I'm sure I get stopped more often than average on domestic flights here in Australia, just because I'm male between 19 and 46.

I was visiting some relatives in New York a few years ago and as an Australian I need a US visa (never used to dammit). There was a separate additional form to filled out if you were male between 19 and 46, so that's pretty clear profiling.

What they can't do is profile by ethnicity, as that is perceived to be politically incorrect.

I also got a visa for a trip to India a few months ago, and they don't seem to have a problem with racial profiling. There is a whole different procedure for Indian visas if you have any Pakistani connection. "Are you Pakistani?" "Have you ever been to Pakistan?" etc etc.

Commplicated issue...

Luke


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By ClownPuncher on 12/9/2009 12:26:34 PM , Rating: 2
What does your skin color have to do with it? Posts like this and your "lazy beaners" rant are painting you as ignorant. Have a cup of coffee and relax.


By Seemonkeyscanfly on 12/10/2009 5:22:31 PM , Rating: 1
Honestly when I'm on a plane, I've never witnessed any one going "ALLAH ACKBAAAAA". However, if I did I really would not care what color his skin was... if hes walking into a plane saying that, well I'm walking off. However that is just me... If any person came walking on a plane and said, "God REALLY LOVES ME TODAY", I'd probably be grabbing my bags to get off that plane, because those words being said I would not feel safe any more. I've watched enough TV programs, plays, movie, book to know what foreshadowing is and the dangers there...


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By dr4gon on 12/9/2009 11:20:24 AM , Rating: 2
All the airports I've been to around the country do provide bags. I guess they just either ran out at that one (could try another entrance) or they really didn't like you.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Lord 666 on 12/9/2009 11:39:56 AM , Rating: 2
The female TSA agent in Vegas took my organic hair gel (Kiss my face) because it was an 8oz bottle, yet had only very little left. It was previously in my checked luggage, but carried on everything on the return trip.

She didn't offer a plastic bag and said if I wanted to keep it, it had to be mailed home. Nonsense.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By tastyratz on 12/9/2009 12:12:53 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe he just looked funny without his gel, and they found it amusing to not help out mr frowny face.

Kinda like the jerk customer always somehow ending up with the "pubes big mac"


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By rvd2008 on 12/9/2009 1:05:30 PM , Rating: 1
or, boy , here comes "I had bad hair" argument. Did you forget consequences of plane highjacking? How about you refresh your mem a bit with 9/11 chronicles?


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By SPOOFE on 12/9/2009 3:59:00 PM , Rating: 1
So it's the airline's fault that you're too stupid to be aware of rules regarding fluid-filled containers?


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Bateluer on 12/10/2009 2:03:40 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed, the rules are clearly posted. You know about them coming in. Don't bring the banned items on your carry on. I've never had a problem with the TSA taking my stuff because I don't bring it through on my carry on.


By Seemonkeyscanfly on 12/10/2009 6:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
Seek your revenge... Next time you fly.

Fart inside a zip lock bag a just leave it puff enough so they know the bag is not empty, but not so full it will pop. They will have to open it to see what up.

Hmmm... of course they may arrest you for carrying a flammable gas - methane gas in a closed container....


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Spivonious on 12/9/2009 11:03:01 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. If someone wants to hijack/blow up a plane, nothing is going to stop him. Even with today's limitations, nothing is stopping someone from using a cell-phone triggered bomb. The only way to stop that would be to open up everyone's luggage, and that will never happen.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Motoman on 12/9/2009 11:06:15 AM , Rating: 3
You want good security, ask El Al and Ben Gurion airport in Israel.

They have never had a terrorist attack. And they never take your bottle of water, or make you take off your shoes, or whatever.

Screen the passenger, not the bottle of shampoo they are carrying with them.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Nik00117 on 12/9/09, Rating: 0
RE: Can we stop pretending...
By jay401 on 12/9/2009 11:42:56 AM , Rating: 3
That'll never happen because we are too uptight and politically-correct to properly screen people based on logical and statistical evidence as to who is more likely to be a threat.

Instead, political correctness has cost us hundreds of millions of dollars of expensive equipment to "randomly" screen people and waste everyone's time. Just another gov't spending boondoggle with money going to companies via congressional favors and kickbacks.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By AEvangel on 12/9/2009 11:52:26 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
Instead, political correctness has cost us hundreds of millions of dollars of expensive equipment to "randomly" screen people and waste everyone's time. Just another gov't spending boondoggle with money going to companies via congressional favors and kickbacks.


Your right, if we just stopped supporting Israel and pulled out of the middle east all together these problems would disappear, but instead we keep screwing around there and it pisses people off enough to want to come over here and blow up our civilians for a change.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By rvd2008 on 12/9/2009 12:11:42 PM , Rating: 1
Israel is just a consequence. The main reason of our screwup in the MidEast is OIL . We are addicted. To stop the screwup need to be independent on Arab oil. Now, ask yourself, could you do something for it today ? Not much, like cut you car usage by 10% (eliminate one trip in 10)? Don't buy SUV/truck? Conserve energy (downsize, walk, bike, carpool, lower heat, lower shower temp, use CFLs, etc)? FIY, 8% of oil conservation could eliminate our Arab oil imports. The problem is us - we consume too much.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Spivonious on 12/9/2009 12:59:46 PM , Rating: 3
The U.S. gets the majority of its oil from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela. I'm not saying oil isn't a factor in the Middle East, but our unquestioning support of Israel is more important.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_...


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By rvd2008 on 12/9/2009 1:09:46 PM , Rating: 2
so what is it you don't understand about 8% Arab oil imports in my post?


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Spivonious on 12/9/2009 2:38:16 PM , Rating: 2
Whoops! Sorry, I didn't read your whole post and took it as one of the many "arabs run our country with oil" arguments. Carry on.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Steve1981 on 12/9/2009 1:55:35 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
The problem is us - we consume too much.


Not exactly. Middle Eastern nations are not opposed to selling their oil, nor do their inhabitants hate people for buying oil. The problems happen (shockingly) when we try and manipulate things: take the overthrow of (democratically elected) Mohammed Mossadeq and the installation of the Shah in Iran as a simple example.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By SPOOFE on 12/9/2009 4:05:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
take the overthrow of (democratically elected) Mohammed Mossadeq and the installation of the Shah in Iran as a simple example.

I'll take your example and raise you two nuclear bombs dropped on a country that is currently one of our best allies.

Let's face it: We're dealing with psychos that would hate us unless the entire population of America converted to Muslims. Countries that aren't controlled by deranged child-raping loonies don't hold onto "wrongs" that are decades old and decidedly against their country's best interest. Why anyone thinks we should do anything to appease these savages is beyond me.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2009 4:08:59 PM , Rating: 2
Good point. I too get pissed off when I see these stupid saps being apologist for the terrorist and making their actions seem like it is our fault.

Get a clue. Rational people don't blow themselves and other innocent people up to make a point.

We also fought Germany in WWII, you might remember, and have a HUGE military presence there to this day. So where are all the German terrorist hijacking our planes into buildings ? Hmmm.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Steve1981 on 12/9/2009 5:36:02 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I'll take your example and raise you two nuclear bombs dropped on a country that is currently one of our best allies.


So because we dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan, we should expect that we can treat everyone like garbage and they won't resent or hate us? Brilliant.

quote:
Let's face it: We're dealing with psychos that would hate us unless the entire population of America converted to Muslims. Countries that aren't controlled by deranged child-raping loonies don't hold onto "wrongs" that are decades old and decidedly against their country's best interest. Why anyone thinks we should do anything to appease these savages is beyond me.


Ahh yes, these are savages who only want to kill you, cannot be reasoned with, and really should just be exterminated right? By trying to dictate who their leaders are, starting preemptive wars with poor intel that turned out to be false, and in general dictating to them how things will be, we're doing them a favor, right?

By the way, who said anything about appeasement? I just assume leave them the hell alone; if some psychos still want to cause trouble, a respectable system of border security combined with all the other resources the US has at its disposal should suffice.

Ohh and regarding the child-raping loonies...I'm sure they'd decry our nation run by homosexuals and baby-killers.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By davej420 on 12/9/2009 3:32:06 PM , Rating: 1
No. I'm also convinced that support for Israel is the predominant cause when weighed against oil. I just don't see how our "addiction" is in anyway detrimental to these oil producing arab nations. (Oil is the only thing that keeps the money flowing in especially when you brilliantly decide to live in the middle of the desert.) If your referring to the wars we have fought over claiming oil in the middle east, that's a different story. But either way, I don't think the reduction of fossil fuel consumption would alleviate the anger caused by the wars in the past. (Not that I am against becoming independent from foreign oil, etc.) The bottom line is that the root cause of these terrorist attacks is a direct result of the US acting as the self-proclaimed world police.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By SPOOFE on 12/9/2009 4:08:40 PM , Rating: 1
Support for Israel is a cheap excuse to hate for other irrational reasons, namely: The United States is wealthy, and NOT a Muslim nation. That's the only reason the demented leadership of several countries need.

Why do we give money to Israel? Because they abide by the peace that they and Egypt agreed to (we also give money to Egypt, for the same reason). Are you suggesting we renege on a deal with someone that's keeping their promise? What about the billion dollars a year we give to the Palestinians, a deal that they haven't kept? Israel has kept their word; Palestine hasn't. If anything, we should dump support for Palestinians.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By lco45 on 12/9/2009 8:31:47 PM , Rating: 3
Not that cheap. $114,000,000,000 and counting:
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/245-200...

Luke


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By keith524 on 12/9/2009 10:59:09 PM , Rating: 2
actually pretty cheap considering that $114 Billion is over the last 60 years. That averages out to less than 2 billion per year.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By lco45 on 12/10/2009 5:35:13 PM , Rating: 2
Big hit of around $50 billion to kick it of at the start. Currently around $2.5 billion a year (or $7M/day).

That could provide an extra $100K/year for 25,000 schools, or buy a new car ($20K) for 125,000 American every year, or give $625 to each baby born in the US each year (around 4m/year).

Still seems expensive to me.

Luke


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By callmeroy on 12/9/2009 2:46:09 PM , Rating: 3
True. Just like I fully believe if someone wants you dead, you are going to be dead -- regardless how tough/built/big you are or how seeming weak/out of shape the other person is to. In the modern age where are weapon technology makes things so easy - its just a matter of having the mindset of going through with it (or just being completely out of your friggin mind).....

On the other hand, even knowing all that -- the point of security isn't to guarantee something won't happen (because anyone who thinks you can 100% prevent a break in on your property or an attack isn't living in the real world) but to deter it from happening.

If someone has a 10 guage shot gun and wants in your house at night....you think your standard front door will stop them? Not likely, but you still lock it and set the alarm right? Because you want to make it more difficult / bothersome for someone to break in.

Finally....everyone should realize most of this TSA stuff -- its government PR....they probably well know the chance of your hair gel being a threat is next to nothing, but if they aren't thorough they are worried about the perception from millions of people (re: voters) thinking its not being taken seriously enough.....


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By FeralMisanthrope on 12/9/2009 12:03:39 PM , Rating: 5
Our grotesque airport liturgies are what anthropologists call apotropaic magic —ritual observances to ward off evils that we can't otherwise control. On the practical level, airport apotropaia is an ineffectual response to a rare threat. But we are not seeking practical answers to practical problems. We are seeking an illusion of safety by prostrating ourselves before a priesthood of cops and security guards.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By kattanna on 12/9/2009 12:25:40 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, aye.. that does about sum it up correctly.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By walk2k on 12/9/09, Rating: 0
RE: Can we stop pretending...
By ClownPuncher on 12/9/2009 12:46:28 PM , Rating: 2
Doubly so now that that brown fellow has bad breath because we took his toofpaste.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By rvd2008 on 12/9/2009 1:00:38 PM , Rating: 1
well, inconvenient - yes, inefficient - maybe, but it works .
If you have a better idea let hear it.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Blah3Blah on 12/9/2009 1:52:12 PM , Rating: 2
HOW ABOUT YOU SHUT-UP!


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By Motoman on 12/9/2009 5:47:24 PM , Rating: 2
It categorically does NOT work. Doesn't do a damn thing. There is not the slightest value in any of the actions I listed. None.

...and go check out the TSA success rate on blind tests of putting through mock explosive devices. They miss like 90% of them.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By callmeroy on 12/11/2009 12:00:52 PM , Rating: 2
Again as I posted above -- its done because of government PR reasons more than anything else, don't let anyone fool you in to thinking otherwise.

If after 9/11 they didn't change any rules -- large numbers of the population would be screaming at the top of their lungs about it being an outrage that the government didn't up security.

I think some of their measures are quite ridiculous to...but the one i actually hate the most -- how folks can't come to the terminal areas anymore unless you are actually flying.

sounds kind of pansy-like I know but I used to enjoy waiting with friends or family before either I or they are gone for weeks on end until I get a chance to see them again -- especially when its me who's leaving for a month or longer due to business...it used to be cool I could at least wait for my plane with my GF...but now she's not even allowed in.

Not a life alternating thing of course -- but just one of those "nice things" that are now forever gone.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By kkshoe1210 on 12/9/09, Rating: -1
RE: Can we stop pretending...
By cornelius785 on 12/9/2009 9:49:04 PM , Rating: 2
I like telling people how the TSA dude was PERPLEX on how to open the case to my electric shaver, basically a clam shell with a button. I explained to him how to open it.... still perplexed and of course I couldn't open it for him. In the end, it was never opened. Doesn't exactly give me confidence in the TSA in finding a real threat.


RE: Can we stop pretending...
By kkuulr on 12/12/09, Rating: 0
let the light of day
By chromal on 12/9/2009 2:12:32 PM , Rating: 4
I applaud the efforts of those responsible for getting the policies and proceedures the US public (as well as non-US visitors) are subjected to out in the open and in the light of day.

Operating the TSA, and indeed, any domestic security force, according to clandestine or hidden policies and proceedures isn't just unAmerican (though it certainly IS that), it also violates the principle of openness and transparency that all aspects of public government must be vigilantly held to.

Whomever leaked the documents were a true patriot and national hero. Those responsible for subjecting us to arbitrary and capricious treatment "in our post-911 world" ought to be locked up in Gitmo cells and given some "non-torture" enhanced interrogations.




RE: let the light of day
By Motoman on 12/9/2009 7:58:02 PM , Rating: 3
...their procedures and policies are irrelevant.

The entirety of their existence is as a placebo. They do stuff, and make it seem important and official, and the unwashed masses think they're safer. Alpha and omega.


this pretty much sums it up
By poundsmack on 12/9/2009 4:01:08 PM , Rating: 2
http://xkcd.org/651/

like all things in life XKCD pretty much sums it up here.




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