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T-Mobile's overly happy spokeschick, Carly Foulkes  (Source: T-Mobile via YouTube)

"Verizon" and "AT&T", the iPhone's "friends" try to establish their separate identities, with much difficulty.  (Source: T-Mobile via YouTube)
"How do you tell them apart?" -- T-Mobile chick

T-Mobile has been hooting and hollering about its "4G" (actually 3.5, HSPA+) network for a long time.  While testing has shown it to be slower than true 4G networks like Verizon's LTE or Sprint's WiMAX, T-Mobile does offer HSPA+ phones, something that Verizon can't yet claim.  So in terms of data network speed, after Sprint, T-Mobile currently is the next best thing.

The carrier rubs in that fact with a pointed new commercial [video], which simultaneous disses the Apple iPhone, AT&T, and Verizon.  Clearly T-Mobile doesn't think users should be impressed with the fact that the iPhone has come to Big Red.

The ad spot features the ever-popular T-Mobile chick (better known as Carly Foulkes, a model also appearing in ads for Ralph Lauren Rugby line) poking fun at the iPhone dude (a clear parody of Justin Long's character) and his eternal attempts at being cool.

This time around the iPhone has brought two identical friends.  One friend is AT&T -- the other, the iPhone's new network Verizon.  T-Mobile's gal asks, "Who are your buddies?"

IPhone responds, "Oh that's AT&T, and that's Verizon?"

Verizon chimes in "Actually I'm Verizon."

And AT&T adds, "And I'm AT&T."

Indeed the two are the same actor, with everything the same, from his balding head, to his stodgy suit.  Everything that is, except for the tie.  AT&T's tie is, of course, blue, while Verizon's is red.  The T-Mobile lady, puzzled, asks, "How do you tell them apart?  Does one of them have nationwide 4G like me?"

IPhone mournfully replies, "Nope, I'm pretty much slow with either one."
Well, it's true that the iPhone can't yet handle HSPA+ or LTE/WiMAX for the matter.  We're guessing it will get the upgrade to HSPA+ sometime this summer, and maybe will see an LTE bump in summer 2012.



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ha
By sprockkets on 1/13/2011 3:53:10 PM , Rating: 5
Technically the att iphone uses the same 3.75 or whatever tech that t-mobile has.

But she's cute, so I agree with anything she says :)




RE: ha
By HrilL on 1/13/2011 7:50:19 PM , Rating: 3
Wrong. the iPhone 4 does not support HSPA+. The fastest it can do is 7.2Mbps max which is just HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA+ can currently do a max speed of 43Mbps and possibly faster once radios on the network side are upgraded.


RE: ha
By Targon on 1/13/2011 9:15:05 PM , Rating: 3
And with that said, are any of the networks able to handle the demand of those sorts of speeds? Who cares what it can theoretically do if the carriers are not ready to provide those sorts of speeds!

Look at cable service....do you see more than a few that even offer 100Mbps speeds for a very high premium, or are most in that 10-30Mbps range? There is a reason why carriers do not offer the maximum speed that a given technology can provide, the backbones are just not able to handle it!

In general, if we see even 10Mbps service offered via cellular of ANY type, that will be a pretty big improvement over most current offerings, and to expect faster with no bandwidth limit just isn't realistic.


RE: ha
By sprockkets on 1/13/2011 10:56:14 PM , Rating: 3
Whoops, only the server side can be software upgraded (for the + part), not the phone side.

Eh whatever. She's hot.

http://www.soccer24-7.com/forum/attachment.php?att...


RE: ha
By EricMartello on 1/14/11, Rating: -1
RE: ha
By Shadowself on 1/14/2011 10:10:57 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, the iPhone does only support HSPA (HSDPA down & HSUPA up). However the limit is not 7.2 Mpbs (a common misconception). IF (HUGE IF) the carrier supports it, HDSPA can support *up to and including* 14.4 Mbps. The iPhone can, in theory, support this. I don't know about today (haven't researched it recently), but AT&T was planning on only supporting a maximum of the 7.2 Mbps rate before the jump to LTE.

Yes, in theory, HSDPA+ can support *up to and including* 42.2 Mbps. However, I doubt T-Mobile has that full implementation as of today. It would not surprise me at all if they only implement the lowest speed which is only up to 17.6 Mbps. That way they can claim HSDPA+ with minimal impact on their networks and backbones.

But the real bottom line is that these are all theoretical maximums. Unless you are close to a tower and in the open *and* you're one of only a handful of people accessing that tower then you should not expect to get anywhere near these theoretical maximum data rates.


RE: ha
By omnicronx on 1/14/2011 10:45:01 AM , Rating: 2
No, the iPhone4 an HSPA device with HSUPA support for faster upload speeds over previous iPhones.


Sore loser?
By lifewatcher on 1/13/11, Rating: 0
RE: Sore loser?
By sprockkets on 1/13/2011 5:43:19 PM , Rating: 2
Since the exclusive crap is over, maybe a pentaband iphone will come and work (one that supports the 1700mhz freq, as the current one does not but is pentaband).

maybe this summer?


RE: Sore loser?
By PrezWeezy on 1/13/2011 6:12:50 PM , Rating: 2
How is it any different from the "iDon't/Droid Does" commercials that Verizon ran when the iPhone and Droid were the two hot topics? Or the "Before you choose a phone, choose a network" campaign? Another Verizon commercial. If anything I think it's a great way to say "Yeah, you got a cool phone, but does it make calls or use the internet?" Which is what they are trying to tell people. Not agreeing or disagreeing with their network, but the ad is good. "It's more than a phone" is how they are differentiating themselves.


RE: Sore loser?
By jharper12 on 1/13/2011 8:00:05 PM , Rating: 5
No, this is an awesome commercial, and so were the other T-Mobile commercials. Why? Because I was so sick and tired of seeing this exact same crap pulled by Apple. You know those annoying commercials where the Apple guy would be a hip young dude, and Microsoft is a homely nerdy guy. So I'm thrilled to see this crap being pulled against the other side. How does that feel Apple? How does it feel to have one side making a nonsensical claim that attractive hip people equate to technological superiority?!? Try actually demonstrating what's better about your product, rather than hiring models to trick the public. I hope this move really ticked you off.


RE: Sore loser?
By mcnabney on 1/14/2011 11:25:54 AM , Rating: 2
The babe in the T-Mobile (Deutsche Telecom) ads is young, and hip, and fresh, and cool.

The actual devices on the T-Mobile network - ohhhhh, not so much. Unless you count the jailbroken iPhones that customers have activated.


True 4G networks
By Calabim on 1/14/2011 9:42:24 AM , Rating: 2
From my understanding, none of the mentioned techonlogies is true 4G, they are all evolutions of the current 3G technology. Current 4G branding is just a PR stunt by carriers, to simplify understanding that it is indeed a faster network.

Unfortunately I only have the Wiki article on 4G to back me up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G




RE: True 4G networks
By AlphaVirus on 1/14/2011 11:21:11 AM , Rating: 2
There is no true 4G technology at the moment anywhere in the world, it hasn't even been officially released by the GSMA. At the moment we are seeing 3G Evolved, which is the transition phase between 3G and 4G.

I don't have a link, nor do I remember exactly where I saw it, but basically I read that it started as a PR stunt but was allowed by the big wigs because all the customer needs to know is higher number = newer/better. Once true 4G is finally released then they will continue to use 4G but probably capitalize on the new technical term (see LTE/Wimax).


RE: True 4G networks
By mcnabney on 1/14/2011 11:28:42 AM , Rating: 2
LTE is actually capable of providing 100Mbs to a mobile device, but it can't be provided due to massive spectrum limitations.

Now the awesome latency is for real. 30-50ms pings!


RE: True 4G networks
By AlphaVirus on 1/15/2011 10:16:35 AM , Rating: 2
Correct LTE is capable of 100Mbs but you can expect to max out only 1/4 in a real world setting. For example I have an ATT aircard (built-in) that promises 7.2Mbps but real world it gets max 2Mbps.

You know I really hope I live to see the day we can have wireless devices receiving less than 100ms, as of today it's always hovering around 200ms or more.


At the commercial is easy on the eyes.....
By ARoyalF on 1/13/2011 11:44:04 PM , Rating: 4
All phone companies spout a bunch of BS on their commercials. At least T-Mobile is giving me something nice to look at. Pardon me if you're a woman.




By AlphaVirus on 1/14/2011 11:22:39 AM , Rating: 3
I couldn't agree more!
First it was Catherine, now we have a Catherine look-alike that really does a good job selling....whatever it is she sells. Lol jk, but yeah she is a cutey.


I'm bored
By espaghetti on 1/13/2011 10:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
Is this what passes for news?




Sprint
By ShaolinSoccer on 1/14/2011 8:59:57 AM , Rating: 1
All I know is I have an HTC EVO 4G with Sprint and live in a major city in SC. I can barely watch low quality Youtube videos on it using 3G. We don't have any 4G in SC yet, unfortunately...

I'm almost tempted to return this phone if I can't even watch a video now and then...




RE: Sprint
By mcnabney on 1/14/2011 11:33:11 AM , Rating: 1
Sprints. Network. Sucks.

If your provider can't provide the service they promised, go get another.

Note - there might be a relationship between carriers that charge more for service and getting better service. If you want to pay less, don't complain when you get less.


I miss
By spamreader1 on 1/18/2011 11:28:56 AM , Rating: 2
Catherine Zeta-Jones




Well she maybe better..
By Belard on 1/14/11, Rating: 0
Wow
By Tony Swash on 1/13/11, Rating: -1
"We’re Apple. We don’t wear suits. We don’t even own suits." -- Apple CEO Steve Jobs














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