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Boys average 30 texts per day and skip punctuation

Mobile phone use in teens is currently at a very high rate and most of those teen users spend more time texting than they spend talking on their devices.

Unfortunately, texting has become such an integrated part of the life for teens and older drivers that texting while driving is something that many do without even thinking about it. According to some reports, people who are texting and driving are six times more likely to be in an accident.

new study by the Pew Internet and American Life Project has looked for insights into teen culture and specifically the prevalence of texting.

According to the study, texting among the teen population in the U.S. has grown dramatically since 2008. Texting has now surpassed phone calls, IM, and social networking for communication between teens. The study found that a full 3/4 of teens from 12 to 17 own cell phones today and that girls in the group typically send 80 texts per day and boys typically send 30 texts per day.

Study researcher Amanda Lenhart said, "Texting is now the central hub of communication in the lives of teens today, and it has really skyrocketed in the last 18 months." She continued saying, "We've kind of hit a tipping point where now teens expect other teens to respond to text messaging and to be available. There is definitely an element of text messaging that fits so seamlessly into their lives."

One key reason for the rise in texting among teens is that teens general expect each other to be reachable and to respond to text messages no matter if they are in class or under close watch of parents. One key finding of the study showed that 87% of teen cell phone owners sleep with or next to their phones so they can answer text messages during the night.

The study also found that girls use punctuation in texts and boys tend to forgo punctuation. Study author Scott Campbell said, "If a girl puts a period at the end of a text message (to another girl) then it comes across as she's mad." Lenhart added, "They have these practices because they've learned that texts can lead to misunderstandings. It's a deliberate thing and it's also part of a culture that's interested in differentiating itself from adult culture." 

While there are bans on texting and driving in many parts of the country for drivers of all ages, many teens are simply ignoring these bans and the evidence that shows texting and driving leads to more accidents. Police say that enforcing texting and driving bans is difficult because texting is hard to spot.

Teens simply say that no one will listen to the bans. Steven Bloch from the Automobile Club said, "What I would say is that texting and cell phone devices have become such a component of life for teens and for young people that it's hard for them to differentiate between doing something normal and doing something wrong."



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Texts are just more convenient
By spwrozek on 4/20/2010 9:20:02 AM , Rating: 2
That is the main thing. It was very easy to shoot a text off in class when I was in college. If my wife wants me to stop for something on the way home from work she texts me so I have a list right on my phone. If I am in a meeting it is easy to send off a text. If I am driving I can wait till I am stopped or to my destination to shoot off a response. There is no answer and talk obligation.

It is my main form of communication with friends and family for plans and quick things that are not important. It makes all those things easier because I can be doing anything else and shoot off a quick text and wait for the response instead of hashing it out on a 10 min phone call.




RE: Texts are just more convenient
By inighthawki on 4/20/2010 9:23:59 AM , Rating: 3
That's all great, and you probably fall within this average. Even a small back and forth at the rate you described, you would get what, 40, 50 texts per day? There are many people who go WELL above this, hundreds if not over 1000 texts. Would you not agree that these people would likely be better off just calling the person and clearing up an hour of back and forth texting in say, 2 minutes?


RE: Texts are just more convenient
By acase on 4/20/2010 9:59:57 AM , Rating: 2
Not strongly disagreeing, but one handy thing about texts is that you can carry on conversations with multiple different people at the same time, and even sometimes 2 completely different conversations with the same person at the same time. So in that way if they were on the phone with one of these people (an didn't have multi-tasking) they wouldn't be able to be talking to the other people at the same time. There are conference calls but that only works if you are all talking about the same thing.


By spwrozek on 4/20/2010 10:04:55 AM , Rating: 2
I probably fall in or under the average. I am not sending crazy amounts. Some people may be better off calling. If I know it will be a longer discussion I just call.

As an example tonight I will shoot off a 10 at once to people asking if they are meeting us at the sports bar to watch the Red Wings game tonight. Calling each person would be way longer and waste more time to me.


By Lazarus Dark on 4/20/2010 7:25:44 PM , Rating: 2
I am actually amazed at this 80 texts number they give.

Texting is my main form of comunication too. I have 400 voice minutes a month but only use about 10 minutes a month. But I also only have 200 text messages per month. And I rarely go over 150 even though text is my main comunication between myself and about ten friends. What are they texting to make 80 texts in a day? Do they text one word at a time?

My ATT contract is up next month and I'm going with Verizon to get a Droid with data. A deaf friend has a text/data only plan (no voice service, though you can make voice calls at a pay-per-minute rate, I think) and it's super cheap, I'm thinking I may go with this plan also.


RE: Texts are just more convenient
By xDrift0rx on 4/20/2010 9:30:12 AM , Rating: 3
this guy brings up the point of texting. convenience.

you dont have to worry about being rude while sitting in a meeting to send a text message, or have a conversation to keep you awake during class. not only that but they are alwasy available unlike instant messengers where you can sign off, go away etc.


RE: Texts are just more convenient
By Smilin on 4/20/2010 1:22:47 PM , Rating: 1
Hey buddy just because nobody says anything to you while you are texting during a meeting doesn't mean they don't notice or that it's not completely rude.

...just a tip from someone who writes evals.


RE: Texts are just more convenient
By Hieyeck on 4/21/2010 11:48:58 AM , Rating: 2
... just a tip from the 21st century: "always connected and available".

Unless you don't work IT, which would mean you're talking to the wrong people on the wrong site.


By JediJeb on 4/23/2010 10:10:12 AM , Rating: 2
Since when is DT and IT only site?

Honestly I work as a chemist, and as a supervisor in research I am expected to be available when needed. But during a meeting the company policy is cellphones off, including texting. It makes the meeting go much faster then when constantly waiting for people to finish phone conversations and sending/reading text messages.


By kmmatney on 4/23/2010 1:43:25 PM , Rating: 2
There are tons of non-IT people at this site. I'm an X-ray scientist myself (although I spend about 33% of the time programming, so maybe that's IT).


By Smilin on 4/26/2010 1:34:35 PM , Rating: 2
"always connected" is not the same as "always available". Confuse the two at your own professional peril.

Oh, and non-IT people are more than welcome on this site. We're discussing an article on teenagers texting after all. I don't have too many of those in my dept.


By p05esto on 4/21/2010 12:14:22 AM , Rating: 1
Man, where I work if you even check your cell phone during a meeting that's very rude and people notice. If you text during a meeting your days are numbered buddy, lol. Kids.


By LRonaldHubbs on 4/21/2010 7:17:54 AM , Rating: 1
As the others above me said, if you're in a meeting and you are communicating with someone who is outside that meeting, you are being rude. Even though you're not disrupting others, everyone else can see that you're not paying attention, and that is rude.


By leuNam on 4/21/2010 8:48:56 AM , Rating: 1
I disagree. I've been handling meetings in class as well as a consultant in a firm, I know how rude it is when someone may be texting. I always say before the meeting starts to turn off their cellphones, or if it is that important get my attention so you may get excused.


RE: Texts are just more convenient
By Chocobollz on 4/21/2010 1:12:27 PM , Rating: 2
LOL I think you got it backwards. Texting while in a meeting is actually something which many would consider it as improper. And having phonecall in a meeting doesn't always considered as rude, especially when you already put your cellphone in silent mode as to not make a sound and you politely ask for permission for answering the call. That's what I called, a good manner, as opposed to "don't have a manner" when you just go texting in a middle of a meeting!


RE: Texts are just more convenient
By angryplayer on 4/22/2010 1:28:39 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, I didn't know people who don't work in IT browse tech sites. My bosses consider it rude to walk out of the meeting. Stay at the meeting cause no one wants to repeat what you missed when you walked out, even phone calls - just mute the damn thing. The only reason you walk out is for emergencies, personal or work.


By JediJeb on 4/23/2010 10:16:41 AM , Rating: 2
Yup, there are engineers, scientists (I am a chemist myself), IT, Teachers, Business Professionals, and just about any other profession you can imagine browsing here. For many technology is a hobby as much as a profession, for me it is both.


By jdietz on 4/21/2010 1:05:07 PM , Rating: 2
So then here is what you do:
1) Set your phone on vibrate.
2) Pretend there is no answer and talk obligation for regular phone calls too.
3) Check your voicemail.


By eddieroolz on 4/21/2010 5:39:20 PM , Rating: 2
I just can't believe these girls can do 80 a day, and that's just average.

In contrast, I only use 80 in the entire month...


Female teens = worse drivers than males!
By HighWing on 4/20/2010 3:31:29 PM , Rating: 2
So this study shows that females text more than males. And we all know that texting while driving is dangerous, and at the least, a major distraction. So ergo, by this study, female teens are more likely to be texting while driving and thus more likely to be a distracted driver!!

Finally some proof! Now lets get the insurance companies to start charging them more then males!! While I won't argue that a male is more likely to speed, I will argue that females are twice is likely to be a distracted driver. And I consider a distracted driver to be worse then speeding as the speeder is at least looking at the road, where as the distracted driver is not, and is more likely to hit an other car! When I was in High school I knew of several girls who were crashing cars 10x more often than any male, and I kept thinking, "why am I paying more then them for car insurance!!"




RE: Female teens = worse drivers than males!
By ShaolinSoccer on 4/20/2010 5:50:06 PM , Rating: 2
I know two young women that got into accidents while texting. One died.


RE: Female teens = worse drivers than males!
By piroroadkill on 4/21/2010 4:21:15 AM , Rating: 2
and nothing of value was lost


RE: Female teens = worse drivers than males!
By piroroadkill on 4/21/2010 4:22:27 AM , Rating: 2
okay that was amusing in my head but actually ridiculously harsh


By HighWing on 4/21/2010 3:13:16 PM , Rating: 2
As horrible as that is, yes I see the humor, and more dirty come backs came to mind too ;-) thanks :-P


By HighWing on 4/21/2010 3:12:17 PM , Rating: 2
Not sure what you are saying by this, but that only further proves my point.


Yea....
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/20/2010 9:10:04 AM , Rating: 1
I think boys text the same if not more.....




RE: Yea....
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 4/20/2010 9:13:19 AM , Rating: 2
It's been a while since I was a teen boy, but I don't recall us being as gossipy or "chatty" as teenage girls. Maybe the times have changed, but teen boys tend to be more closed off and not as chatty... well, unless they're trolling for booty.


RE: Yea....
By inighthawki on 4/20/2010 9:18:20 AM , Rating: 2
The majority of the time, I would say that guys are texting their girlfriends, which would explain any high rates. My brother texted only a handful a day before he hooked up with his girlfriend, then she texted him so much he had to get an unlimited texting plan just so he didn't pay massive overage charges. So any guys you know that text as often as girls, it's because the girls are texting the guys and they're just responding back.


RE: Yea....
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 4/20/2010 9:24:10 AM , Rating: 2
My point proven! ;)


RE: Yea....
By leuNam on 4/21/2010 9:06:41 AM , Rating: 2
yeah..and then some girl texts you, "why didn't you text me?!", blah blah blah...(^_^


Yet, try to get them to write an essay
By DaveLessnau on 4/20/2010 12:08:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yet, take these same teens who are texting over 80 messages per day and ask them to write a one page essay. Oh, the humanity! My ears hurt just thinking of the wailing and gnashing of teeth that would ensue. Plus, they probably wouldn't have the intellectual capacity to string complete sentences together to form a coherent whole.




RE: Yet, try to get them to write an essay
By Smilin on 4/20/2010 2:21:21 PM , Rating: 2
My wife grades batches of standardized test essays from time to time. It's frightening just how stupid some of these are. Few kids can punctuate, spell, or tell the difference between an abreviation and a full word.

Texting is going to reduce us to Orwellian duckspeak.


By rburnham on 4/20/2010 3:13:38 PM , Rating: 2
"Idiocracy" is happening now.


By ekv on 4/20/2010 5:07:45 PM , Rating: 2
There is some past history here, at DT. You may have read these, but I'll mention a couple salient links
"New Study Claims Texting Improves Language Skills in Children"
http://www.dailytech.com/New+Study+Claims+Texting+...
and
"Textese Cell Phone Language Emerges: Cn U Rd Ths?"
http://www.dailytech.com/Textese+Cell+Phone+Langua...

I'm fortunate to have had a decent education. Wish I would've worked harder at it and/or had teachers that pushed me harder to improve.


Cell phones in school
By Curly on 4/20/2010 10:01:21 AM , Rating: 2
Students today use cell phones when taking test to get the answers inflating their grades allowing them to graduate with a very good grade average. The grades on their report card dose not reflect their knowledge though. The same thing happens in the college and university classrooms. Thus the US is graduating students without the full knowledge to fulfill their obligations in their professional field.




RE: Cell phones in school
By inighthawki on 4/20/2010 12:05:03 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know where you go to school, but it's not that easy to cheat where I go/went to school. It's usually glaringly obvious when someone is texting on their phone at a desk or table and trying to hide it, so a quick glance around the room would easily show who was cheating. Not to mention a lot of my professors here require that all of your stuff be put on the floor so u can't try to hide the phone anywhere. If people get away with it where you go to school then it's a pretty bad school or the teachers are really lazy.


RE: Cell phones in school
By mindless1 on 4/25/2010 10:59:21 PM , Rating: 1
That's one of the dumber things I've read recently. The US is the only nation with cell phones?

However, the US educational system up through undergraduate level coursework, as well as that of most 1st world countries does fail miserably at giving students the knowledge to perform in a professional field, but this cannot be avoided because there are millions of unique jobs that need done but not millions of possible tailored classes to teach in such an individualized way.


Jesus
By piroroadkill on 4/21/2010 4:19:54 AM , Rating: 2
I sent 63 in the whole of the last month. More than that, a day?




RE: Jesus
By MikeO on 4/21/2010 6:10:21 AM , Rating: 2
I just checked, last month I sent 21. I don't spend an hour texting back and forth about an subject that would be resolved with a one minute call. If I know the question is going to need more than a simple yes/no answer I call.


Seriously, does no one else find this wierd?
By Believer on 4/23/2010 5:54:07 AM , Rating: 2
The study also found that girls use punctuation in texts and boys tend to forgo punctuation. Study author Scott Campbell said, "If a girl puts a period at the end of a text message (to another girl) then it comes across as she's mad." Lenhart added, "They have these practices because they've learned that texts can lead to misunderstandings. It's a deliberate thing and it's also part of a culture that's interested in differentiating itself from adult culture."

What the crap-kind of analysis is that?!
So to conclude; girls use punctuation in texts because they need to imply to other girls whether they are mad or not (which apparently happen a lot since it had a statistically noteworthy occurrence), while boys (who forgoes use punctuations) doesn't and would also be oblivious to this cultural indicator since girls apparently omit this act when dealing with them.




By JediJeb on 4/23/2010 10:26:09 AM , Rating: 2
Consider that two guys can have a knock down drag out fight one day, then go do something together as friends the next. While two girls can wear the same shirt to school one day and never speak to each other again for life.


Teens
By Lemurion on 4/20/2010 11:43:28 AM , Rating: 2
My 17-yr old stepdaughter sends over a hundred a day and quite frankly it drives us nuts; particularly if she texts us from the next room.

It really does seem to be the norm - but she can't seem to understand that we use text messages for short messages - NOT entire conversations. She'll even wait for her mother to get to work so she can text her - rather than just giving her a call. For her social group all other forms communication come second to text.




SOLUTION
By FISH1170 on 4/20/2010 2:59:25 PM , Rating: 2
Over 100 texts per day!!! Having the head looking forward and down for extended periods of time will cause "TEXT NECK". We may not be able to make mobile technology go away but we certainly can learn to live with it in a healthy manner. There is a new APP for the Android (Google) phones that teaches the user in real-time, with an indicator light, how to hold the phone with proper posture. Check it out!! The APP is simply called "TEXT NECK". IT IS AWESOME!!




The Heck With...
By mmatis on 4/20/2010 6:52:52 PM , Rating: 2
the texting. Let's hear about the sexting!
}:-]




Low
By zingyoo on 4/20/2010 8:20:08 PM , Rating: 2
I think thats low. My 13 year old averages over 300 per day.

Lou
www.vpn-privacy.us.tc




Give em time to catch up...
By Beenthere on 4/20/2010 11:23:38 AM , Rating: 1
...to their parents. It takes awhile to learn how to careen down the highway in your car and text at the same time while looking for a place to crash while eating your Big Mac.

:>(




Wow
By jrollins006 on 4/20/10, Rating: -1
RE: Wow
By jrollins006 on 4/20/2010 8:51:34 AM , Rating: 1
oops, 16,000. My bad guys


RE: Wow
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 4/20/2010 9:09:03 AM , Rating: 5
16,000!!! 16,000!!!!??? What the hell man? :-)

I know I'm in the vast minority, but I sent a total of 5 texts last month. I mainly use the Meebo app to keep up with people (as most of my friends, contacts have smartphones)... and it's free.


RE: Wow
By inighthawki on 4/20/2010 9:14:42 AM , Rating: 3
I have to agree... 16000!? While 5 is probably a little below average, 16000 is incredibly high. If you text that often, have you ever considered actually CALLING the person? You could probably save hours of your time. If the conversation goes on past about 10 texts you should probably consider just calling the person. It would likely end the back-and-forth in a few minutes.


RE: Wow
By redbone75 on 4/20/2010 9:31:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If the conversation goes on past about 10 texts you should probably consider just calling the person. It would likely end the back-and-forth in a few minutes.

If only it were so easy. Some people I know absolutely refuse to answer the phone, and would actually text you while you're calling them. I think interpersonal communication courses should be mandatory for this generation.


RE: Wow
By MrBlastman on 4/20/2010 10:01:10 AM , Rating: 2
Those people should be shot and dragged into a creek. They do not deserve to use the cell phone that they have. If they continue down the path they are on, they are going to turn into slimy worm weasles who are afraid to confront anyone face to face and do everything behind their backs or through a neat little text.

I suppose this is one of the reasons I enjoyed watching "Up in the Air," as the girl learns the hard way that sometimes, you just have to do things face to face rather than via a computer or electronic device in an less-than-personal way.

I ignore people when they text me for the most part. I then call them up and politely tell them--"Look, I don't pay for text messaging on my phone plan. It costs me fifty cents per text. Could you please not send me any and instead, either call me directly or send me an email."

With an email, it at least forces them to try and use proper grammar. If they are that bad at it, they will probably call me instead. It keeps people human--hearing a real voice, interacting real time and, best of all, they can not hide behind a device and you can truly get some feel for what is actually going on in their head.


RE: Wow
By Bateluer on 4/20/2010 1:11:57 PM , Rating: 2
Did you ever think that they weren't in a position to talk on the phone? I sent a lot of techs, few thousand a month easily. They are more convenient most of the time, there's a lot of fan noise where I work and its difficult to hear a person on the other end of the phone. Texts are quick and simple, though I make a point to use proper, though brief, grammar.

I'd use the Meebo app more often, but it often drops connects to various IM programs and drains the battery much quicker than text messages.

I do send emails to individuals I know get their emails to their phones though, particularly if I need to send a picture or some other file.


RE: Wow
By Clenathan on 4/20/2010 10:20:37 AM , Rating: 2
What's troubling in my opinion is the breakdown in language. I've heard some people say out loud OMG or LOL. LOL? You mean ha, ha?


RE: Wow
By wifiwolf on 4/20/2010 10:31:28 AM , Rating: 2
Even better, here in Portugal we actually talk portuguese. For some reason I can't disclose, there are people I talk to and they say LOL to me and I stop laughing and say "nice to meet you and hope (not) to see you again".


RE: Wow
By Anoxanmore on 4/20/2010 9:42:49 AM , Rating: 1
That is about what I text each month :)

Althought I have recently dropped that a bit.

IE OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!


RE: Wow
By wifiwolf on 4/20/2010 10:11:16 AM , Rating: 2
when I was a teen, 10-12 years ago, I used to send 400-500 SMS a day for months. Of course, I've always had it free since then. Now only 1 or 2 a day. I guess I've grown up and have something else to do.


RE: Wow
By VultureTX on 4/20/2010 2:12:37 PM , Rating: 2
group texting makes for lots of messages, if you got 6 people all on the TO: line then a discussion kicks in that goes for on 4 rounds of replies by most then that one conversation generated over a 100 texts as counted by the TelCos.


RE: Wow
By Chemical Chris on 4/20/2010 12:07:09 PM , Rating: 2
So, which drugs to you deal again?


RE: Wow
By fleshconsumed on 4/20/2010 9:13:30 AM , Rating: 2
One text every two minutes? Those guys need to get a life. A real life, not a cell phone/internet attached one.


RE: Wow
By Spivonious on 4/20/2010 9:41:47 AM , Rating: 2
Go Phillies.

Just curious, how old are you? My friends text what I consider "above average" for my age group and it's maybe 40-50 a month.


RE: Wow
By djcameron on 4/20/2010 9:52:07 AM , Rating: 5
Back in the day... we actually talked to people, face to face. Just sayin'.


RE: Wow
By HotFoot on 4/20/2010 10:09:28 AM , Rating: 2
lol Yeah... in university I remember my first cell that did text messages. I thought it was great. Pretty much my texts to friends were "are you free?" and "meet me here".


RE: Wow
By Lanister on 4/20/2010 1:46:42 PM , Rating: 2
How often? I think texting has its place just like every other form of communication. Back in the day I would talk to my friends and family face to face as well but maybe only once a week, now with texting I touch base almost daily. I think texting is great as it allows me to get back to the person whenever I am available, I find the only issue being with people who treat it like a face to face or over the phone convo and expect replys within seconds of sending a txt.

Anyways, to each their own, whatever works for you to stay in touch with the people you care about I say go for it.


RE: Wow
By jimhsu on 4/20/2010 5:35:23 PM , Rating: 2
I do hate text messages (because I don't use them, and receiving them costs money). I don't hate them as a means of communication -- I think preferring one form of communication over another is simply absurd. How you conduct yourself over avenues of communication does matter, not what FORM of communication you use. That said, perhaps the character limit and "expected immediacy" of a text message makes its use off-putting to those accustomed to, for example, a phone call or a face-to-face conversation.

Personally, though, my preferred form of communication is email, blog posts, etc. When meeting face to face is simply not an option, I don't find phone calls to be a panacea, especially when trying to communicate detailed information (did you say 1X-B2 or 1X-D2 for the model number)? More immediate forms of communication, such as text messaging and IMs I also find to be ambiguous (does "going 2 ball games" mean that you are going to one game, or two games?) I prefer the structured form of communication that something like email, or a letter, or even this post conveys. Then again, others think that those same forms of communication are much too long-winded.

To each their own.


RE: Wow
By jimhsu on 4/20/2010 5:37:09 PM , Rating: 2
Clarification (stupid edit feature):

By preferring in the first paragraph, I meant "only using that form of communication and automatically assuming that all other forms are somehow 'inferior'".


RE: Wow
By rburnham on 4/20/2010 3:18:54 PM , Rating: 2
Or we used land line phones that did not drop out and had great "reception" to talk to someone, where we could hear inflections in their voice. It was fun.


RE: Wow
By jimhsu on 4/20/2010 5:39:39 PM , Rating: 2
I really do think that phone quality in general is unacceptable, especially for structured information. I don't consider myself hard of hearing, but it is really hard to determine if the person at the other end said a B or D when communicating a ID tag, or barcode, or serial number. And no, most people don't know the NATO alphabet or don't use it.


RE: Wow
By satveeraj on 4/20/2010 5:44:52 PM , Rating: 2
I'm glad someone still thinks the way I do......nowadays most people can't even hold a conversation, its more like.."Hey are you on FB or twitter or I'll text you?"..
Oh yeah I'll just stand here for the next 10 minutes and wait for your FB request before we can talk.....talk about the growing lack of social skills


This is one thing that I'll never get...
By callmeroy on 4/20/10, Rating: -1
RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By sarthurn on 4/20/10, Rating: -1
RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By MrBlastman on 4/20/2010 9:55:27 AM , Rating: 5
Wait a minute... stop what you are doing:

quote:
"Driving to Laker game, u?"


Did you really just say that? Are you telling me your _friend_ is texting while driving... and you are encouraging it?

I present to DT exhibit A: Sarthurn.

Please file this under glaring evidence.

Stop the texting while driving. Please. All of us will thank you later.


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By Spivonious on 4/20/2010 11:05:12 AM , Rating: 3
Give this man a 6. Texting while driving is the most idiotic thing one could do.


By Smilin on 4/20/2010 1:17:29 PM , Rating: 2
Some comedian had a good point about it.

DWI/DUI = Some drunk guy is driving the car.
Texting = NOBODY is driving the car.

Better to have a drunk driver.


By The0ne on 4/20/2010 1:25:03 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know, some of my ex-friends might take this title. They drive big SUV's while watching a movie. How pathetic is that. I was scare shtless cause the SUV was going everywhere and yet these idiots don't seem to care one bit. Do yourself a favor and stay away from people/drivers like this.


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By PrezWeezy on 4/20/2010 1:29:18 PM , Rating: 1
I've been known to respond to a text while at a red light.
I have a smart phone now with a full keyboard and I don't text and drive on that. When I had a 9 key I used to be able to whip out a text without ever looking at the phone so I could text and drive without any ill effect. Now, however, I have to look at the keyboard to see where my fingers are and I can't do it while driving anymore.

As for texting, I agree with the poster above. I text because I don't have to interrupt people in the middle of what they are doing. So I can send a text and when they get around to answering me I get a response. I also am a very visually oriented person. So when I get a text that says I need to be somewhere, take care of something, call someone, it tends to stick better. When someone calls me to tell me something it's usually in one ear and out the other. Also, phone calls fail to grasp my attention most of the time. Since simply listening to someone talk doesn't engage me the way it does some people, I tend to let my mind wander while I'm on the phone and then I can't remember anything that was said in the conversation. Texts on the other hand I can review later, and since they are written down I retain more of the information.


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By MrBlastman on 4/20/2010 1:38:48 PM , Rating: 2
To me it sounds like you need to work on concentrating harder. You can remember what people say if you try.

There is no excuse though for texting and driving. NONE. Not even at a red light.

Wait, did I just say red light? Why yes, yes I did. "Why?" You might ask, because, if you are at a red light and are engrossed in a text message, what happens if an emergency vehicle comes along while your radio is on and you fail to notice them? The emergency vehicle either gets stuck or has to go off the road to get around you.

Driving is not a chore. Driving is a responsibility. You OWE it to the people around you to put the darned phone down and put your eyeballs and attention towards the road and your surroundings.


By PrezWeezy on 4/21/2010 2:46:07 PM , Rating: 2
http://people.usd.edu/~bwjames/tut/learning-style/
It's called a learning style. It's very well studied. There are 3 types, visual, auditory, and kinesthetic. Your ability to retain information processed is directly related to your learning style. I happen to be a mix between visual and kinesthetic. The majority of the world (I think around 60%) are auditory learners. That means talking on the phone works for them. It's more difficult for me. Yes I could work very very hard and remember part of what someone says on the phone, but I don't retain it as well. Hence I use text messages which work very well for me. That's not because I'm choosing not to remember, that's the way my brain works.

As for texting at a red light, if I wasn't texting I'd be zoning out some other way so I wouldn't have any better chance of noticing the vehicle. I'm sorry that my texting when I'm stopped upsets you, but the fact of the matter is I am no more likely to cause a problem than anyone else on the road who does all of the other crazy things people do in cars. I realize the excuse "well I'm not as bad as..." sucks, but the fact is that I KNOW my limitations and I know when I need to put the phone down and I know when I'm losing my focus on the road. I know what I can and cannot do. I don't do anything that is going to put people in danger. I'm very conscious of that.


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By Smilin on 4/20/2010 2:15:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
When I had a 9 key I used to be able to whip out a text without ever looking at the phone so I could text and drive without any ill effect.


Fool. There is absolutely an ill effect. Even having a hands free conversation increases your risk of an accident. Is that what you really think? That as long as you don't look down that you can text and drive without worry?

Normally I would just brush off tools like you and let darwin sort you out but unfortunately you're going to kill someone else who doesn't deserve it.


By jimhsu on 4/20/2010 5:45:40 PM , Rating: 2
How is texting while driving like secondhand smoke? Read your nearest economic textbook ... "negative externality".


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By PrezWeezy on 4/21/2010 2:48:32 PM , Rating: 2
Are you saying you have both hands on the wheel at all times no matter what? I drive one handed almost exclusively until I need my other hand. I also drive a stick, so most of the time is spent with one hand on the wheel, one on the shifter. When I had my 9 key I drove an auto at the time, so the net effect was the same.


By Smilin on 4/26/2010 1:40:00 PM , Rating: 2
No, I'm not saying anything about your hands. I'm talking about your brain.

Moving a shifter from 2nd to 3rd is not the same as composing a multiple character message on a 9 key.


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By troysavary on 4/21/2010 11:38:44 AM , Rating: 2
You lack the mental capacity to remember a short phone conversation, yet you think you are able to dredge up from that same limited intellect the ability to text while driving with no ill effect. You, sir, are an idiot.


RE: This is one thing that I'll never get...
By PrezWeezy on 4/21/2010 2:50:48 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, people who are kinesthetic and visual learners tend to have higher IQ's on the whole. It's not mental capacity, it's synapse mapping. Before you call someone an idiot why don't you go ahead and learn about how the brain works.


By Smilin on 4/26/2010 1:42:30 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks professor.

If you think that someone can text and drive with no ill effects then you're an idiot too.


By jimhsu on 4/20/2010 5:43:12 PM , Rating: 2
You see, I saw that message as ambiguous. Is the message an inquiry of whether or not the recipient is driving to the Laker game, whether or not the recipient is even GOING to the game, or whether or not the sender needs a ride? A simple phone call would resolve the ambiguity.

Not to mention the text while driving part.


By callmeroy on 4/20/2010 11:39:41 AM , Rating: 2
complaining and stating opinion are completely different things.

I don't give a rat's ass how many texts you send per second -- as long as a)Its not on any plan I'm paying for (like a parent held accountable for paying their child's phone bill), b) you aren't doing in during an activity that jeopardizes my safety (like while driving). Other than that my OPINION is its pathetic to burn your time texting back and forth crazy amounts. Once you hit the THOUSANDS per month..that's a bit crazy.

Now you don't need to agree with my opinion, that's why its called "MY" *Opinion*....not yours...But there ya go.

Personally, I don't like to be bothered with constant texts it annoys me....If I want a conversation or have so much to say I rather actually talk to them (face to face preferred or phone if needed).


By DaveLessnau on 4/20/2010 11:56:42 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
As a 40 something year old, I wish to state the following: I text 10-15 THOUSAND (10,000-15,000) text a month.


Pardon me, but 15,000 per month averages out to 500 per day, 20 per hour (even assuming you text 24 hours per day), or one every 3 minutes. Assuming you sleep 8 hours per day and perform various other maintenance task, I'd say 10 hours of texting per day is a more reasonable number than 24. That works out to about 1 text a minute. CONSTANTLY. Those numbers speak for themselves: I'm not even going to editorialize on them.


By JediJeb on 4/20/2010 12:18:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I text 10-15 THOUSAND (10,000-15,000) text a month.


Wow. I guess I am on the total opposite side of this, I have actually been thinking of getting rid of my cellphone just so I can have more time that people can't bother me.

I had a girl friend back about seven years ago who would text like that and would get mad when I didn't reply instantly. One time she sent several in a row asking why I wasn't replying, I told here it was difficult to text back while taking a crap, of course that just made here more angry. Sometimes you just can't win lol.


By jonmcc33 on 4/20/2010 1:09:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I can excuse most of it for younger people -- like teens, because we all know how being a kid is like. But adults?


Some adults are very much like kids, especially when it comes to women. My ex-wife's mother is a prime example. She's 50 years old and acts like a 13 year old girl. It was embarrassing to be around her.

quote:
In the past YEAR -- i've sent *maybe* 100 texts...in a year.


I have sent a whopping ZERO in the past year. I just make the quick call.

We have become so dependent upon electronic communication (e-mail, IM, texting) that we forget what it's like to communicate verbally.


"A lot of people pay zero for the cellphone ... That's what it's worth." -- Apple Chief Operating Officer Timothy Cook

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