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Meta-analytic study finds no link between violent video games and aggressive behavior and links violent games to beneficial effects

The video game industry takes more than its share of bumps and bruises for violent content. Much debate in Washington has happened over violent video games and exactly what sort of effect these violent games have on gamers who play them.

As more and more states consider video game regulations to prevent the sale of violent games to minors, we see more and more studies reporting to link video games to violent behavior. Other studies claim to show that violent video games only affect gamers who are prone to those behaviors to begin with. Another study claims that violent video games leave gamers paranoid. Who is to be believed?

ArsTechnica reports that Christopher John Ferguson from the Department of Behavioral, Applied Sciences and Criminal Justice at Texas A&M International University in Laredo, Texas has devised a meta-analytic review of the studies published since 1995 relating video games to good and bad effects in those who play them.

Ferguson says that one of the most cited studies of violent video games conducted by Anderson and Dill, which claimed to show a causal link between violent video games and aggression was flawed. Ferguson says that the Anderson and Dill study when inspected closely actually supports the exact opposite of the publicized findings that video games don’t correlate to aggressive behaviors in players.

Four measures of aggression were used the Anderson and Dill study, provided by a “noise blast” program that wasn’t standardized. According to Ferguson, the fact that the study authors only found correspondence to one of the measures and the confidence measures around the effect size for the findings actually crosses zero and can’t be considered proof of a positive finding.

A similar study by Ferguson et al. using a standardized version of the “noise blast” program found no relationship between violent games and aggression. What was found from these study reviews was that once predication of family violence was eliminated by players of violent video games, there is no correlation between the two.

In other words, gamers who play violent video games are more likely to be aggressive due to family violence than by playing video games. Some studies looked at by Ferguson suggest that the relationship of violent video games and reduced aggression needs to be researched in the future.

Ferguson says that some of the studies he looked at in the meta-review suggest a beneficial relationship between specifically playing violent video games and improved visuospatial cognition.

That would mean that violent video games actually help gamers rather than sending them into aggressive tendencies. When Ferguson gets down to the results of his meta-analytic study he finds that there is only a two percent overlap in variance between violent video games and aggressive behavior and that once corrected for publication bias, that relationship drops to a number of r += 0.04 with a confidence interval crossing zero.

This does not support a relationship between violent video games and aggressive behavior according to Ferguson.



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Finally!
By Rocket321 on 11/20/2007 10:17:35 AM , Rating: 5
Somebody supports what should be common sense.




RE: Finally!
By Anh Huynh on 11/20/2007 10:31:12 AM , Rating: 6
I don't think its common sense, but more or less supporting that parents are occasionally idiots and need to stop blaming everyone else but themselves.


RE: Finally!
By Kefner on 11/20/2007 10:42:38 AM , Rating: 2
Couldn't have said it any better!


RE: Finally!
By TimberJon on 11/20/2007 12:13:54 PM , Rating: 2
Dr. Phils, The House. For example...


RE: Finally!
By ajfink on 11/20/2007 12:09:22 PM , Rating: 2
Give this man a six.


RE: Finally!
By andrinoaa on 11/20/07, Rating: 0
RE: Finally!
By Scabies on 11/20/2007 2:12:13 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Parents live in a society and thus are under the same pressures as everybody else.

We are talking about the parents that see these pressures as a way to dodge responsibility. "It's not my fault my kid is out of control, it's something he picked up from his friends/TV"
How is a kid supposed to know what a good person is or how to judge character without a parent's guiding hand? They learn that they can get their way outside of the home (or in the home, God forbid), and without intervention we can have youth with dangerous ideas and behaviors.


RE: Finally!
By Christopher1 on 11/21/07, Rating: -1
RE: Finally!
By Parhel on 11/21/2007 10:11:28 AM , Rating: 2
Was this before or after you became sexual predator of the month?

Anyone who doesn't know what I'm referring to should have a look at these:

http://www.wikisposure.com/Christopher_Kidwell

http://www.corporatesexoffenders.com/


RE: Finally!
By murphyslabrat on 11/21/2007 11:55:49 AM , Rating: 2
You can check for yourself
www.FamilyWatchdog.US


RE: Finally!
By svenkesd on 11/21/2007 11:53:44 AM , Rating: 2
What about mental/emotional harm? It can ruin someones life every bit as much as extreme physical harm.

Your narcissism is unbelievable if you can't see how your actions affect other people's lives.


RE: Finally!
By arazok on 11/21/2007 12:19:39 PM , Rating: 2
Please take your twisted garbage somewhere else. This is a place to discuss science and technology. Not a place to push some sicko agenda.

Only the warped logic of a pedophile could show that molesting children could be anything but destructive.

I hope you die as horrible a death.


RE: Finally!
By Kenenniah on 11/21/2007 12:36:15 PM , Rating: 2
Ok fine. Technically yes, good and bad are value judgements.
Violent is not. Some people can think a violent person is good if they want to, but it doesn't make them non-violent.

quote:
I also told them that if something doesn't cause physical harm to someone else or property damage and they want to do it.... they should do it, because no one has the right to tell them what not to do unless it falls into one of those two categories.


Well there are things called laws, so if your daughters really listen to you on that point, tell them to have fun in jail. Many crimes don't involve physical damage or property damage.

In my opinion, it's exactly this atmosphere of tolerance that's causing many of our problems. Not beling allowed to place any "value judgements" on people is exactly what lets people slip through the cracks. We as a society are so afraid of labelling someone as "bad" and needing help, that some that are showing signs of such slip through and eventually shoot up a school.

Everyone is NOT right. You can't truly follow that kind of a philosophy and not truly expect anarchy.


RE: Finally!
By xti on 11/20/07, Rating: 0
RE: Finally!
By FITCamaro on 11/20/2007 4:28:15 PM , Rating: 3
Luckily for Elmer, he finally succeeds in an episode of Family Guy. I fell off the couch laughing so hard when I saw that.


RE: Finally!
By andrinoaa on 11/21/2007 3:58:57 AM , Rating: 4
Please DEFINE common sense.
It is one of those stupid terms we use.
Its a job for the myth busters. What is "common sense" for you , may not be for me, so what is common?

I know this is rather pedantic, but if you want to make an intelligent contribution, choose your words carefully and stop espousing diatribe !


RE: Finally!
By murphyslabrat on 11/21/2007 11:29:31 AM , Rating: 2
Common sense is the collective truth that are assumed evident enough that every mature individual is expected to know. Common sense is different for different people groups, as social norms are often included in common sense; however, there is a basic set of common sense that is almost universal.

For instance, (in any major country) you wouldn't wipe your hand with your nose, then shake the hand of someone you respected, that's common sense.

You (normally) wouldn't pick a candy bar off of a gas-station shelf and eat it as you exited past an officer, as that's just common sense.

You wouldn't suppose that gravity pulled things up as well as down, as that is just common sense (unless you're using pulleys).

You wouldn't expect to find a three-pound hunk of gold in the gutter, as that's just common sense. You wouldn't expect to survive a 14-story fall, as that's just common sense.

And that's why they call it "Common" sense.


RE: Finally!
By slickr on 11/20/2007 7:35:18 PM , Rating: 3
Agreed.
Parents are becoming more and more third person guarnians of a child instead of mentors.
Kids learn from their parents, same as every animal in the wilderness learns from its parent/s how to hunt for example!
Though not all can be attrinuted to the level of home violence. Some living in a violent home can build up a shield from it and tomorrow as an adult act calmly or in other words will not continue with violence although he was living in a violent home. That said violence has to do with pre-birth dispositions.
So if a child is born with a more agresive character, if that kid has violence in his home also, then he/she may become a violent person itself!


RE: Finally!
By Hieyeck on 11/21/2007 12:42:39 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever happened to the days of blaming TV and Movies (and comic books before then, etc. etc.)


RE: Finally!
By Anh Huynh on 11/22/2007 3:53:05 AM , Rating: 2
Because no matter how violent movies get, eg. Hostel and Saw, since they aren't interactive, they can't be considered "murder simulators." I mean in movies, they can show someone getting mutilated, tortured, killed in the most grewsome ways possible, but if GTA lets you beat a couple hookers to death on the side when you're completing missions, its ZOMG A MURDER SIMULATOR.

I mean everyone who's played GTA knows theres missions in the game, and killing and taking hookers to the back alley for health replenishment is just one of the side perks and amusements in the game.


RE: Finally!
By AlphaVirus on 11/20/2007 11:19:05 AM , Rating: 5
Whoever thought it was a good idea to relate games and real life must have overheard a few of these lines.
"I just got through playing Grand Theft Auto, time to go steal a car!"

"Man Pizza Mania was fun, we should call up Pizza Hut now"

"What was the name of that weapon again, oh yeah Tesla Coil. Man Command and Conquer sure helped me build a weapons of mass destruction"

"However you do it, just make sure you wave your arms left and right so you dont fall. You can grind for a few minutes like this." *skates toward the bench* *Jumps and hit croch* "Didnt I say do like on Tony Hawk!"

Dad "What ya doing son"
Son "One day I want to be just like him, Spirderman is cool"
Dad "You want to jump around swinging webs at everything?"
Son "But he is a good guy"
Dad "Let me show you something"
*Dad shows son the top right corner of the storage closet*
Dad "You see that son, we kill them, we dont want to be them"

Person 1 *Clinches fist* *half squats, barely bends his knees* *screams at the top of his lungs*
Person 2 "What the heck are you doing"
Person 1 "Practicing to be super sayain like on Dragon Ball Z"

Notice how some of these are funny, some are stupid, some are just strange, but it all depends on the person. Anyone can play a violent game or a kid game, what he does after that does not mean the game induced him.

If that is the case then we should fire the president because every kid says they want to be him when they grow up...And we know how many people he is responsible for killing.


RE: Finally!
By FITCamaro on 11/20/07, Rating: -1
RE: Finally!
By xsilver on 11/20/2007 8:50:11 PM , Rating: 3
No innocent civilians were harmed in the making of this war?
No innocent civilians were harmed due to bad policy?
try again


RE: Finally!
By AsicsNow on 11/23/2007 9:59:19 AM , Rating: 2
You forgot to add butchered the constitution and several other pillars that our government is built upon.


RE: Finally!
By Screwballl on 11/20/2007 12:43:40 PM , Rating: 4
Video games help relieve stress, regardless if it is Tetris or Counter Strike. The person also needs to have the proper mental capacity to be able to separate fiction from reality.
Only those with mental deficiencies are affected by the games, but it is based on a preexisting condition, not of the game itself. If the person has a problem telling the difference between reality and TV or a game then it is not the game or TV show but the person.
X people breed X children, just fill in the blank. Sometimes X can be magnified in children with certain psychological problems such as Autism and Down Syndrome and these are the kids that parents need to keep away from the games/TV, not stick the kids in front of the TV or computer to play them 12 hours per day. Any lengthy and continued usage of a TV or game can result in a degraded and warped since of what is real and what is not.
As a gamer and having a child with subdued autism, I see daily how tough it is to keep them busy with creative activities rather than destructive activities. Keep the games fun like racing and puzzles, not the violent games that inflame the bad attitudes. For the rest of us that can tell the difference, game on!


RE: Finally!
By FITCamaro on 11/20/2007 4:24:45 PM , Rating: 2
Completely agree. Now I'm gonna go play Assassin's Creed and stab some people in the neck.


RE: Finally!
By Haltech on 11/20/2007 4:48:48 PM , Rating: 2
at the same time or different???.....


RE: Finally!
By FITCamaro on 11/20/2007 5:05:57 PM , Rating: 2
Both.


RE: Finally!
By y7bb6 on 11/20/2007 9:10:31 PM , Rating: 1
If its common sense then that guy just made common sense into rocket science. I didn't understand a thing that it said.


RE: Finally!
By MrPoletski on 11/25/2007 10:09:39 PM , Rating: 2
And the same goes for porn!


Big surprise there
By UzairH on 11/20/2007 10:01:14 AM , Rating: 5
Or:

"Video games don't cause violence, and I'll kill anyone who disagrees."




RE: Big surprise there
By AstroCreep on 11/20/2007 11:19:45 AM , Rating: 3
I prefer the tried & true "I'll eat a mushroom which will make-a me grow, then jump on-a your head if you disagree with-a me"!


RE: Big surprise there
By Anh Huynh on 11/20/2007 11:22:34 AM , Rating: 2
Hey if I eat a leaf I can fly!


RE: Big surprise there
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 11/20/2007 12:28:37 PM , Rating: 4
It's a feather not a leaf!


RE: Big surprise there
By Etsp on 11/20/2007 1:28:39 PM , Rating: 3
he can use a leaf(SMB 3) or a feather(SMW)... He can also use a special hat, or water jets...or turn into a bee...Man, I never realized how Macguiver-like Mario is...


RE: Big surprise there
By Scabies on 11/20/2007 2:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, have you used the Red Star? Definately the best! (SM: Galaxy)


RE: Big surprise there
By AlphaVirus on 11/20/2007 2:37:59 PM , Rating: 3
I have come to find that same thing. While playing Mario Galaxy me and my friend came to the conclusion that, whatever they are on while making these Mario games we want it.
From the very start, A plumber named Mario is out to save a princess (Toadstool) and he has to defeat a turtle dragon (Bowser). As the years pass by Mario turns himself into 2 seperate people, Mario and Mario Luigi. They eat mushrooms and flashing flowers, feathers and leafs, they turn into frogs, they even spit fire and meet up with a dinosaur (Yoshi).

Whatever you gotta smoke to think of some stuff like this, must be good.


RE: Big surprise there
By Anh Huynh on 11/20/2007 5:13:04 PM , Rating: 5
I think its Princess Peach now. However, the princess is a total slut, with Mario, Luigi and Bowser! I mean come on, how many times can Bowser kidnap her unwillingly!

Think about it.


RE: Big surprise there
By Christopher1 on 11/21/2007 9:07:38 AM , Rating: 1
True. Either she has the most PISS-POOR security force in all of fiction....... or she is letting Bowser take her on purpose, to 'test' Mario and Luigi's skills.


A blast from the past?
By Symmetriad on 11/20/2007 11:45:22 AM , Rating: 5
Interestingly enough, the visuospatial benefits of video games have been pushed by some doctors for a long time - when I was about 4 years old and had less than average hand-eye coordination, my pediatrician told my mom that video games would greatly improve it. One Coleco Vision later, my hand-eye coordination went up to normal levels.

As for the influence of violent video games, my perspective is that they only encourage violence in those predisposed to it by other, more important environmental and internal factors; e.g., abusive parents/peers, untreated/unrecognized depression or other psychological conditions, and extreme neglect. For a great number of people, violent video games are more relaxing or cathartic than anything else. I've been playing FPS games since the days of Wolfenstein and I've never regarded them as anything more than an enjoyable pastime. I am successful in my career, and approach and resolve conflict in a reasonable, non-violent fashion.

I'm sick and tired of irresponsible parents, ignorant lobbyists and opportunist politicians vilifying video games just because they a poor grasp of responsibility, accountability and the difference between causation and correlation. Maybe some of them should try to understand the other environmental factors involved in violence before using video games as a convenient catch-all.




RE: A blast from the past?
By borismkv on 11/20/2007 11:59:20 AM , Rating: 2
But...but being a responsible parent sounds too much like...like...*shudders* WORK!


RE: A blast from the past?
By Christopher1 on 11/23/07, Rating: 0
RE: A blast from the past?
By Parhel on 11/23/2007 1:59:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well, there isn't really such a thing as a 'responsible parent'. I have seen children whose parents were overprotective of them, trying to get them to follow their 'moral code', and the children have been little asses because they have gotten tired of the hovering their parents do.


This is the type of post that I was referring to when I said that pedophiles, such as Christopher1, use their posts to attempt to lure children to contact them.

Granted, it isn't obvious to a normal person, but this is the exact type of language that pedophiles use. His aim is to convince any underage person who might be reading it that he is on their side, and against parental authority.

I hope that the moderators and staff of DailyTech are aware that they are allowing the site to being used in such a manner, and what the consequences would be for any young person who fell prey to this.

If you doubt me, read this individual's post history, and visit the following links:

http://www.wikisposure.com/Christopher_Kidwell

http://www.corporatesexoffenders.com/


RE: A blast from the past?
By borowki on 11/20/2007 1:24:57 PM , Rating: 2
I think it's to be expected that violent video games would actually help people deal with their aggressive tendencies. Humans instinctively react to circumstances where they have no control by turning aggressive. Repeated exposure to stimulated environments, stressful but where the players have near complete control, would help them better cope in real life situations.

Aggression is not a necessary pre-cursor to violent acts though. People are capable of killing in cold blood. Studies have known that violent films and games do desensitize people to violence. If they feel less moral qualm about the use of violence, they're more likely to carry out an act.


Two words...
By jbzx86 on 11/20/2007 12:55:55 PM , Rating: 2
"...because we all know that marilyn manson, grand theft auto, mortal kombat, alice cooper, paul verhoven movies, wes craven movies, and ozzy osborne are what's corrupting people--and causing them to commit violent crimes."

Two words... War Pig.




RE: Two words...
By Screwballl on 11/20/2007 1:03:56 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, another excuse to blame someone else for their own shortcomings.
Music falls into the same category as TV and games. If someone has a mental deficiency that allows them to believe that a video game is real then they are also likely to believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that man has never been on the moon and aliens lie in wait on Mars until they can prey on us and steal our souls... not to mention that everything said in their music of choice is the truth and anyone else is full of it.


RE: Two words...
By sj420 on 11/20/2007 3:07:46 PM , Rating: 2
So you can say religion falls into the same category.

People that have been molested by "Gods hand" (Priests) and convinced that a Stone Castle Floats magically on CLOUDS. They believe that someone ACTUALLY DIED AND CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD, MORE THAN ONCE! They like to think someone split a sea, they like to think that everyone originated from two people and those two people were punished for being hungry.
They believe that an invisible greater power sees all, controls all, and judges what should happen to all of "his creations" whether it be to fortify them or to destroy them (no "creator" does this). They believe in an entire fictional story as if it was complete reality. As if the nile river ever flew with blood.

They also have an entire music category, that spews all of that BS aswell.

Besides, whos to say that you aren't assuming what that person believes? Did you ever actually ask them what they believe? Did you actually ask them at all? Probably not. They probably believe in Reality, unlike religious fools. Reality, where officials aren't always truthful, where anyone can create an opinion of something, and where Space-Outer Space is our real destination. Not two fiction areas that deem whether you did "Good or Bad".

But see, religion is already known. It is as old as Barbarians themselves. (It is just as barbaric too).

Back on-topic. Everyone is different. People have different lives, different "brining ups", different families. The way their family treats them probably does have an impact on what games they play. If I were happy all the time with my family I know I cerainly wouldn't want to shoot people all the time on the PC. And when I am by myself I am content. No one is bothering me and I don't have an urge to do anything violent. I laugh and make jokes - to MYSELF! Hah, that all changes whenever anyone comes home though; Typically because the first thing they make sure to do is upset me somehow.

However there are studies that show certain activites on the PC can really help visuospatial and other brain oriented functions. For example when you listen to music and watch visuliations of high quality (MilkDrop in winamp) it really touches base with a lot of the brains senses all at the same time. Providing a really weird feeling that eventually you get use to.


RE: Two words...
By Screwballl on 11/21/2007 3:34:25 PM , Rating: 2
Your lack of knowledge about anything religious proves to me that you are an uneducated dimwit. Not every single story in the Bible is literal but much of it is. Some have been twisted by man to fit their lifestyle so you may have heard wrong versions of the story. Scientists have proven many of the original stories from the Bible to be true. The Nile did run red with blood because of massacres all along the banks at that time in history. Much of the information found in history books also corresponds with what is in the bible.

These priests you mention are the exception to the rule rather than the rule itself.

The religious of the US are typically the most realistic people you could ever meet yet you seem to have some knot in your brain that only looks at the rare 0.0001% of the religious that are nutjobs.
It also states in multiple places that if a group of people continuously go against Gods word then he will punish them as he sees fit. If you have a child that pees and poops on the carpet, do you just clean it up and let him do it for his entire life or do you teach him the proper way and if he still does it then punish him? Not to mention the legal repercussions that Child Services would likely take him away if that continued for health risks. That is your word and your rules (or the States if you let it go), this is no different than God punishing those who do not believe or who have strayed from his Word, his laws, his rules.

Have fun ignoring reality!


RE: Two words...
By superkdogg on 11/20/2007 3:16:23 PM , Rating: 2
But, everything you said except for the video games and music part is true.....

Seriously, I professionally assess and implement behavior change strategies for delinquent youth and what's going wrong here is people are confusing the chicken and the egg.

There are enough kids with pre-existing aggressive/violent tendencies that play violent games to make a correlation. The problem comes at establishing causation. For some reason (poor design, improper interpretation) some studies have found the wrong causal factor. Violent kids are more drawn to violent games. Violent games don't make kids more violent.

However, a different way to say what I just said would be to say that children who are not desensitized to violence are more inclined to reject violent games. That's probably going to get me flamed, but it's a function of our society these days. There's no way that seeing dead bodies at 12, 6, and 10 every day for four years doesn't affect at least some people some of the time. This is a development of the past 30 or so years that people's brains are not set up to handle. PTST and anxiety disorders are more common now than ever (somewhat due to increased awareness and decreased social stigma, but also due to ever increasing societal exposure to unpleasantness).

The real problem here is that politicians and random behavioral scientists are trying to isolate violent video games from the culture of violence in America. They are intertwined from the beginning. That then provokes every healthy person who ever played Doom 3 to say that "I'm just fine-those deficient people should just die in a fire" and a sub-fight breaks out that detracts from either side's point of view.

I use America specifically because that's the data I'm familiar with, and perhaps more importantly because that's the only wealthy, modern nation with elevated violent crime levels and declining standard of life compared with prior generations. Violent games can't cause violent crime in other countries, because relative to America there is little to no violent crime.

Long story short, parents supervise your kids and don't be afraid to take things away. Kids, get help if you're feeling like you might do something stupid. Everybody who's not a parent or a kid, either support a parent you know in doing the right thing or STFU because there's way too much parent-bashing that happens whenever this topic comes up. Of course it's related to parenting at some level. However none of us (even if we are parents) live in comparable situations because there's way too many variables to say that our life is like somebody else's. Guess what, sometimes you would have done better in their shoes....sometimes you'd have done worse.


RE: Two words...
By Christopher1 on 11/23/07, Rating: 0
Personally...
By TheDiceman on 11/20/2007 10:42:37 AM , Rating: 2
I have always used video games to vent my aggression. There have been days that I think if I did not have my games I would have snapped and hurt someone in real life.




RE: Personally...
By Anh Huynh on 11/20/2007 11:22:04 AM , Rating: 2
I know the feeling. UT and TFC has helped me through so many break-ups in high school. It's a nice stress reliever when you don't have access to a punching bag.


RE: Personally...
By Polynikes on 11/20/2007 12:36:14 PM , Rating: 2
I've found punching holes in walls to be much more satisfying than video games themselves. (Or a punching bag, for that matter.)

Especially when its the video games pissing you off. ;D I would never have let out my frustrations on a person, though.


RE: Personally...
By Anh Huynh on 11/20/2007 5:11:06 PM , Rating: 2
I've left my share of holes in the wall at my parents house, but I would never hit anyone, unless they hit me first.


RE: Personally...
By JonnyDough on 11/20/2007 10:17:11 PM , Rating: 1
And then you hit a stud in the wall and broke your gaming hand. Fer shame. I really think that video games aren't a stress reliever. It's a fact that most elevate your heart rate the same way fast music does, and that people often get over-involved in them. To say that violent video games don't cause violence is a true fact, but to say that violence and gore in the minds of a very young fledgling mind have no effect is just ignorance. It IS up to parents to make sure that their kids are old enough and mature enough to handle the content...but the problem here is that so many don't. I saw Resident evil in the theater with two kids and their parents in front of me. The kids were about 4 and 6, and covering their eyes and whimpering most of the movie while their fat slob parents munched their popcorn.


RE: Personally...
By Christopher1 on 11/23/07, Rating: 0
Fact or Myth?
By teckytech9 on 11/21/2007 1:04:33 AM , Rating: 2
It is quite clear that others have said the opposite to the title of this article. The irony stems from the timing of the release of this study to the holiday buying season. Is this study getting some sort of kickback from the media companies?

I agree with the previous poster that parents need to be convinced to do a better job of screening inappropriate (violent) materials from their children. Its too bad that the video game market is trying so hard to promote violence in their products in order to make a profit. Or are they trying to convince everyone to hate nonviolence?




RE: Fact or Myth?
By andrinoaa on 11/21/2007 3:45:15 AM , Rating: 1
As I tied to explain earlier. Its easy to set up a survey of 100 people (as an example ) and fit the results into however you fancy. However, if you miss the one mad person in the crowd , your stats are meaningless.
Like wise, to say violent games dont create violence is only slightly misleading! For normal people, it is probably true. However substitute someone slightly unstable and its asking for trouble.
My point is, how do you identify these people and stop them from becoming trouble. The obvious answer is you cant. Just as you cant stop alcoholism or other drugs.
This raises a moral dilema. Stop its general distribution or control it. History tells us that prohibition doesn't work. This leaves us only one tool to try to resolve the problem. DOH
PS Stop putting ALL the blame on parents. This is just a silly and uninformed arguement. The onus should be on the supplier to stop children from consuming this material. Just as I would expect arms manufacturers to prove there is nothing wrong with everyone walking around with a nuclear bomb in their holsters! As I said earlier, parents are also hostige to society. It is physically impossible to control your children more than %50 of the day. Do the sums.
Peer pressure holds their attention for at least %20 of the day. Peer pressure is from other kids at school, the television their teachers etc.


RE: Fact or Myth?
By INeedCache on 11/21/2007 4:28:46 AM , Rating: 2
Folks can come to their own conclusions. As for me, a parent of a teenager, I do notice (as does my wife) that my son is a lot more aggressive after playing certain video games. We have prohibited him from having certain games, won't let him have any M rated games, and have had to take a few away due to his behavior after playing. I'm not trying to dispute this article, I'm just saying that what it states is not true for all.


RE: Fact or Myth?
By superkdogg on 11/21/2007 9:29:03 AM , Rating: 2
Best response in this thread ^^^

As with all things behavioral, there are no laws, only trends. Good for you for responding to the situation at hand and not getting caught up in trying to make the situation black and white.

You responded to your child's need and did it right. The way a situation like yours ties in with my comment/essay above is that the violent video game puts a child/teen in a stressful situation that is likely to deplete one's coping abilities. This happens inside and outside of video games and is more attributable to stress than the game itself, however for many young people some games are stressful.


and now you know why i'm voting libertarian
By inperfectdarkness on 11/20/2007 10:49:02 AM , Rating: 2
...because we all know that marilyn manson, grand theft auto, mortal kombat, alice cooper, paul verhoven movies, wes craven movies, and ozzy osborne are what's corrupting people--and causing them to commit violent crimes.

....because bad parenting, and people who should never have children has absolutely nothing to do with it...




By Anh Huynh on 11/20/2007 11:23:42 AM , Rating: 2
Parents don't like to admit that they're the problem, but would rather blame everyone else.

Kids seeking solace in games is no different then seeking solace in gangs. They just want to be accepted, especially if they're from a broken home.


even if they did
By raphd on 11/20/2007 1:53:09 PM , Rating: 4
even if they was a link, its still the parents fault. I used to work in a video store and i told parents this game makes me sick playing it because its so violent. All i got was "oh, thats ok he really wants it." I think only 1 time a parent took my advice.




From another study...
By Hare on 11/21/2007 12:04:17 AM , Rating: 2
Games don't make people violent, lag does :D




RE: From another study...
By Belard on 11/21/2007 12:42:38 AM , Rating: 2
LOL.... actually that sounds very accurate ;)

Proof that violent video games doesn't cause mass murdering rapist...

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas has sold over 20 million copies... who knows how many millions is pirated.

If the game effected 1% of the gaming population, that would mean 200,000 violent criminals were made, most of them killers. But how many cases do we hear from the defense "the game made him do it"? Like "The devil made me do it" phrase.... how many? A handful.

Games don't kill people, terrorist and traitors do. Google " Former aide blames Bush for leak deceit " hmmmm...


Thanks Daily Tech!
By Newspapercrane on 11/20/2007 10:13:58 AM , Rating: 3
And only two weeks before my research paper is due.

Nice.




By Spartan Niner on 11/20/2007 6:15:27 PM , Rating: 2
gameViolenceCrusader13124:
OMG what you say? All your violence not come from game? You already violent? No wai! Kid see stabbity stabbity death and copy! Worst offender is Duke Nukem Forever!

normalPerson2149:
I'm pretty sure video games don't make me violent, but why do I feel a sudden urge to kill gameViolenceCrusader13124? Oh, it's because it's obvious he doesn't know what he's talking about. P.S. DNF will never see the light of day.

DNFdeveloper23910:
All your Dukes are belong to us.




Statistics
By DonkeyRhubarb on 11/21/2007 3:36:18 AM , Rating: 2
Im just finishing off a module in statistics in college. Never knew it would be so useful so fast!




Games are good for you
By 5c8wc4 on 11/23/2007 3:51:29 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if they considered how many violent peoples there would be without Games!.




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