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Porsche Panamera S Hybrid
Porsche's latest hybrid will start at $95,000

Porsche is starting to boost fuel efficiency on its larger vehicles through the use of hybrid technology. Porsche already offers a hybrid version of its Cayenne crossover SUV, and now it is extending that technology to its newest production model: the Panamera S Hybrid.

The Panamera S Hybrid makes use of a supercharged 3.0-liter V6 engine that produces a healthy 333hp. In addition, a 47hp electric motor is mounted between the gasoline engine and the transmission (8-speed Tiptronic) to provide additional power. Unlike some of the newer hybrids being introduced today that feature more powerful and lighter lithium-ion batteries, the Panamera S Hybrid still uses NiMH technology.

Even with a combined 380hp on tap, Porsche says that the Panamera S Hybrid achieves 34.6 mpg on the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC). The large sedan can also scoot to 60 mph in 5.7 seconds and features a top speed of 167 mph. The Panamera S Hybrid can reach 50 mph on battery power alone -- just don't expect to go very far, the battery-only range is a scant one mile. 

The Panamera S Hybrid will be made available later this year in the United States at an estimated base price of $95,000. For comparison, the base Panamera S lists for $74,400.

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They really should...
By semiconshawn on 2/16/2011 9:43:41 AM , Rating: 1
Remove 2 doors.
Remove Hybrid system.
Put a big high reving flat six in the back maybe even turbo charge it.
Add a little bit meaner lower stance with wider staggered tires and flare out the fenders some.
You could sell a car like that..

A 4 door Hybrid Porche makes me want to throw up. Neat tech I still somehow hate it. At least its beautiful..;)

RE: They really should...
By Brandon Hill on 2/16/2011 9:56:28 AM , Rating: 2
Remove 2 doors.
Remove Hybrid system.
Put a big high reving flat six in the back maybe even turbo charge it.
Add a little bit meaner lower stance with wider staggered tires and flare out the fenders some.
You could sell a car like that..

Sounds like a 928 revival :)

RE: They really should...
By bah12 on 2/16/2011 10:35:51 AM , Rating: 2
Car like that MIGHT even compete with the CTS-V for "fastest sedan" bragging rights. Of course they'd still need to shave 20K off the price.

RE: They really should...
By GulWestfale on 2/16/2011 7:35:16 PM , Rating: 2
the panamera turbo is considerably faster than the CTS-V.

RE: They really should...
By bah12 on 2/17/2011 9:38:34 AM , Rating: 2
Did not know about that sedan, but I would not say "considerably". From C&D.

Top speed/0-60/skidpad
Caddy 191/4.3/.93
Porsche 193/3.3/.92

Found it odd that the caddy had a better skid pad as Porsche usually excels there. So yes you are technically correct. Odd that there are no Nürburgring lap times for it on wiki. The 911 turbo is only 3 hundredth faster than the caddy so I would not call it officially "track" faster until more objective testing were done. Plus add in the fact that I can by 2 caddy's and a truck for the weekend for the price of the Porsche :)

RE: They really should...
By Spuke on 2/17/2011 3:01:08 PM , Rating: 2
With the right tires and a decent amount of balance, a minivan can pull great skidpad numbers. No one has a patent on physics. Besides low .9g is not all that fantastic but plenty for 4000 lb sedans.

RE: They really should...
By GulWestfale on 2/16/2011 7:33:49 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like a 928 revival :)

the 928 had the engine in the back? are you sure? i think he is talking about the 911...

as for porsche: they are part of VW now, so you can expect a lot more crap to happen there very soon. the german press is already reporting on an audi q5-based cute ute, and even a VW-sourced 4 cylinder spyder to be positioned below the boxster.

when you think that the next bugatti will likely be based on the same chassis as the bentley mulsanne, that the bentley continental is really just a VW phaeton in drag, and that an audi A3 is a last-gen golf with a higher-priced badge, then you know it's only a matter of time until we see a rebadged golf as the "Porsche Tabasco", or some similar BS. sigh.

RE: They really should...
By kattanna on 2/16/2011 11:37:09 AM , Rating: 3
yeah, when i think "porsche" hybrid 4-door sedan does NOT come to mind. small..high powered and sexy is what i think

like when i think of volvo.. i think of safe and boring

RE: They really should...
By miccla on 2/16/2011 4:03:04 PM , Rating: 2
Well when I think "Porsche"... I just think mid-life crisis.

RE: They really should...
By lagomorpha on 2/16/2011 6:30:46 PM , Rating: 2
"At least its beautiful..;)"

Not even 5 minutes before closing time. It looks like the 911's fat diabetic aunt.

RE: They really should...
By sorry dog on 2/18/2011 12:11:32 PM , Rating: 2
You could give it 1500 hp and make it faster than Veyron but at the end of the day it still has the looks of a train wreck.

$20K price difference
By fishman on 2/16/2011 7:58:03 AM , Rating: 2
A $20K price difference buys you alot of gas, and the extra weight doesn't help the handling.

RE: $20K price difference
By piroroadkill on 2/16/2011 8:30:11 AM , Rating: 2
I doubt enough batteries to go 1 mile will add noticeable weight. Adding a fat person to the car would probably be more significant.

Then again, if the batteries only go one mile, where the hell has that 20 grand gone?

RE: $20K price difference
By Flunk on 2/16/2011 9:26:36 AM , Rating: 3
Electric motors, regenerative brakes, smug. You know, the usual.

I hate to write this...
By Hulk on 2/16/2011 1:36:21 PM , Rating: 2
but you'd have to be seriously demented to buy this car.

Let's see I want a really high performance 4 door sports sedan and I have 100k to spend on it. Well I could buy the heavier, slower, worse handling, more complicated hybrid and save maybe 500/year on gas or I could save 20k up front and get the better car? Really? Would anyone pick the hybrid.

Oh wait I'm not buying the car for any reason other than to impress my friends and neighbors so not be called environmentally unfriendly (and not sleep well at night) I'll buy the stupid hybrid version.

Porsche should be ashamed of themselves for wasting time on this nonsense. I'm all for fuel efficiency but this is not the right vehicle to hybridize.

RE: I hate to write this...
By lagomorpha on 2/16/2011 6:33:40 PM , Rating: 2
"you'd have to be seriously demented to buy this car."

The same could be said of the Cayenne and they seem to have sold enough of those. Maybe they figured they already had the dentist market locked down with 911s, and trophy wife market locked down with Boxsters, so now they're trying to sell to the seriously demented.

RE: I hate to write this...
By YashBudini on 2/16/2011 6:40:23 PM , Rating: 2
Probably the sole reason it was made in the first place.
What's next? Multiple DVD players? 17 cup holders?

By vortmax2 on 2/16/2011 10:43:22 AM , Rating: 2
Can anyone explain why they went with NiMH instead of lithium on a $95,000 vehicle?

By messele on 2/16/2011 1:22:19 PM , Rating: 2
In a word, Profit$ - huge shareholder pressure clouds good engineering.

So they've managed to take an already pig-ugly undesirable car and actually make it less desirable and even more "half-way house".

It's not even like it was that efficient in the first place. 333bhp from a N/A 3 litre engine yes, but to require supercharging, and the supercharger itself sucks power from the engine, that has to be a joke.

Jaguar had a much better solution with their gas turbine fully electric driven vehicle. Shame it'll never get made as it's too far ahead of it's time.

"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders." -- Michael Dell, after being asked what to do with Apple Computer in 1997
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