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Jobs hopes to return in June

Steve Jobs Takes Leave of Absence from Apple

It appears that the extent of Steve Jobs' health problems were greater than what was previously released to the public. Earlier this month, Jobs released a statement to the Apple community detailing his battle a hormone imbalance which caused him to lose weight.

At the time, Jobs stated that he would step aside should he feel that he could no longer serve as Apple's CEO. It appears that the day is here as Steve Jobs announced in a letter to Apple employees that he leave his day-to-day workload to focus on his health. Tim Cook will step in to fill Jobs' large shoes in his absence. Here is Jobs' letter in its entirety:

Team,

I am sure all of you saw my letter last week sharing something very personal with the Apple community. Unfortunately, the curiosity over my personal health continues to be a distraction not only for me and my family, but everyone else at Apple as well. In addition, during the past week I have learned that my health-related issues are more complex than I originally thought.

In order to take myself out of the limelight and focus on my health, and to allow everyone at Apple to focus on delivering extraordinary products, I have decided to take a medical leave of absence until the end of June.

I have asked Tim Cook to be responsible for Apple’s day to day operations, and I know he and the rest of the executive management team will do a great job. As CEO, I plan to remain involved in major strategic decisions while I am out. Our board of directors fully supports this plan.

I look forward to seeing all of you this summer.

Steve

We won't delve into conspiracy theories about Jobs' health or who knew what when, but the whole DailyTech team wishes him the best in his road to recovery. And when June rolls around, we will gladly welcome him back into the news circuit complete with his black turtleneck, jeans, and tennis shoes.





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So many possibilities here
By spazze on 1/15/2009 12:21:49 AM , Rating: 5
I wonder if Job’s doctors are like his products, overpriced and underwhelming. Except, of course, in stamina as Pirks keeps pointing out, and they are probably really cute and great conversation pieces at the coffee shops. This could cause him to not get quite as healthy as he would have been if had gotten the cheaper, but more robust, doctors.

iDoctor < real Doctor.

Of course, maybe he is just using this to come back with new ads for how Macs can make you healthier with the new OSX Person version.

“I’m Steve Jobs and at one point I was knocking at deaths door, but then I installed Mac OSX Person. Now I have become virus/cancer/bacteria free because nothing can infiltrate Mac OSX Person’s protection scheme. Become an iMan, just like me.” (Uncommon side effects include: Becoming less efficient at most everything but staying alive; possibility of dramatic weight loss while turning “green”; loss of all entertainment value other than looking at yourself; the possibility of turning a trendy color and just sitting at Starbucks looking “cool”; sudden and violent outbursts of untrue superiority; mild anal discharge from the mouth – due to compatibility issues with some ‘nonstandard’ hardware. These side effects are rare, but ask your doctor before installing Mac OSX People.)




RE: So many possibilities here
By acase on 1/15/2009 8:54:32 AM , Rating: 3
Slightly heartless. Incredibly hilarious. +1


RE: So many possibilities here
By Dreifort on 1/15/2009 11:49:28 AM , Rating: 2
isn't this already being impletment up north? doctors on call - via internet.

you pay, then get 10 mins with a doctor on a webcam and the internet. I guess that could be a version of "iDoctor".

I know of many ppl already practicing to become an "iGynecologist".. they use the webcam to look at women all day.


RE: So many possibilities here
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 3:24:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I wonder if Job’s doctors are like his products, overpriced and underwhelming
And more virus/infection resistant! That's quite important for Jobs now :))


RE: So many possibilities here
By spazze on 1/15/2009 9:03:51 PM , Rating: 2
Ah… I do like that little quote of my post, but I’m forced to wonder… what does the virus resistance of his Doctors have to do with his health? Since most Mac people love to type at Starbucks so much, they HAVE to know good sentence structure, how else would they get those hot Mac babes to chat them up?

Either way, I hope that his Doctors are giving him an inflated bill, preferably on a nice sheet of some brightly colored paper, so that it lessens the blow to Job’s pocketbook. I mean, who cares what’s ON the paper, as long as it looks good. Form over function, isn’t that Mac’s corporate policy?


RE: So many possibilities here
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 9:30:01 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
what does the virus resistance of his Doctors have to do with his health?
Would you like to be treated by a sick doctor or by a healthy doctor?
quote:
most Mac people love to type at Starbucks so much
Sounds like product of hallucination to me. Taking any hallucination inducing drugs lately?
quote:
how else would they get those hot Mac babes to chat them up?
same way you PC guys get those hot PC babes to chat them up
quote:
Form over function, isn’t that Mac’s corporate policy?
Comfort over redundant function, that's much closer to reality.


The low road
By dubldwn on 1/14/2009 6:41:55 PM , Rating: 2
So, what's the word on the street about Job's health? What's this about hormones?




RE: The low road
By Snowy on 1/14/2009 6:45:51 PM , Rating: 2
They've gone bad.


RE: The low road
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2009 6:46:59 PM , Rating: 5
South Park was right apparently.

If you don't eat meat you turn into one big vagina.


RE: The low road
By aegisofrime on 1/14/2009 7:23:07 PM , Rating: 2
No dude, you don't turn into one big vagina, vaginas start growing all over your skin.


RE: The low road
By anotherdude on 1/14/2009 6:49:11 PM , Rating: 2
Low road? His weight loss could very easily be explained by a return of his cancer. He never said in his last comment about the hormonal thing his cancer had not returned - the hormonal thing could have been a symptom of the return of the cancer - that's at least what some endocrinologists were speculating.

No one really knows except Steve and his doctor and possibly some close confidants who are not saying. Like everything else at Apple the secrecy is strong.

So we have to read between the lines and reading between the lines of this latest statement does not sound good at all.


RE: The low road
By mixelplick on 1/14/2009 7:00:04 PM , Rating: 2
6 months...that lines up with nearly the exact 2 year anniversary of the iphone. Since June appears to be when announcements are made about the iphone I'm guessing the next time we see him he will be talking about the iphone nano and the iphone 3.0


Unfortunately, he's dying
By jamawass on 1/14/2009 9:36:26 PM , Rating: 2
The pancreas is one of the major hormonal organs in the body. When it's diseased with cancer it's going to cause a " hormonal imbalance". Personally I think he should just say he'd like to keep his health matters private rather than coming up with these ridiculous statements. I wish him all the best in his health battle, wonder what Apple will be without him.




RE: Unfortunately, he's dying
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2009 10:24:50 PM , Rating: 2
If he said he had cancer though, Apple's stock would take a hit.


RE: Unfortunately, he's dying
By Pirks on 1/14/2009 10:28:21 PM , Rating: 2
Moot point 'cause it took a hit after this piece of news anyway.


RE: Unfortunately, he's dying
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2009 10:42:37 PM , Rating: 3
You think that's a hit ? If he straight up came out and said "I have cancer, and it doesn't look good" the stock would plummet.

Any trained monkey could crank out Crapple products. But his fans don't know that. Apple is a highly image driven company. No Jobs - no magic.


RE: Unfortunately, he's dying
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 1:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Apple is a highly image driven company. No Jobs - no magic.
That image is not in Jobs, it's in graphs and numbers on anandtech that I posted above (battery efficiency analysis by anandtech reviewers). Even if Jobs is gone, those graphs are not, hence the image stays too. Apple will beat Wintel PC world as long as they can demonstrate stuff like these anandtech graphs above. Whether only Jobs can force Apple to do it - is a big question, and you just answered to it by saying that any trained monkey can do computers as good as Macs. Which suggests by the way that all the other guys like MS/Dell/etc are staffed by untrained monkeys :))) *LOL*


Well
By fuser197 on 1/14/2009 7:27:23 PM , Rating: 2
Apple: Your god and savior has left the building.




RE: Well
By jevans64 on 1/14/2009 8:36:58 PM , Rating: 2
When it was Mac vs. Amiga, I used to refer to Steve as " Hand Jobs " in reference to what Apple does to its customers. LOL

Anyway. The stock is going to take a big hit and the folks I told to get out back in September/October are now wishing they HAD.

A person doesn't lose that much weight because of a hormone imbalance and I bet he has a cancer again.


RE: Well
By Flunk on 1/16/2009 11:09:07 AM , Rating: 2
WTF is an Amiga?


RE: Well
By Alareth on 1/16/2009 6:26:04 PM , Rating: 2
Heathen! Blasphemer!

They don't teach kids anything these days ...

If you think Apple has rabid fanboi's, you've not met an old school Amiga user.

They don't make Amiga's anymore, but that doesn't stop them from being the best computers ever made.


Just so everyone knows
By BadRobot on 1/14/2009 8:50:07 PM , Rating: 2
So apperantly its time for an anatomy lesson.

Pancreas is
A. what you ate for dinner

B. A critical endocrine gland that produces hormones and sends signals to other glands to produce hormones. If this organ gets cancer you almost definately will have hormone imbalances.

C. useless




RE: Just so everyone knows
By BadRobot on 1/14/2009 8:53:17 PM , Rating: 2
ps. i feel bad for him. Pancreatic cancer has a terrible survival rate...


RE: Just so everyone knows
By PitViper007 on 1/15/2009 11:27:22 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Pancreatic cancer has a terrible survival rate...


Yes, and my aunt it fighting it now. We hope for the best...


Jeez...
By JMS3072 on 1/14/2009 8:27:22 PM , Rating: 3
Does anyone besides me think that it's remarkably hypocritical of American culture to demand Steve to reveal every aspect of his health, and then sue our doctors for the slightest breach of patient-doctor confidentiality?




RE: Jeez...
By foolsgambit11 on 1/14/2009 9:11:11 PM , Rating: 2
Not at all. Doctors and lawyers should keep their mouths shut, as required by law. Their patients and clients should sing like canaries - they have the choice, and we want the information. "No good comes from concealing the truth." - Gaius Baltar. Maybe not the best of role models.... hrm....


Congratulations to Daily Tech
By Shadowself on 1/14/2009 7:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
Congratulations on taking the "high road" and not sniping. I find it truly refreshing when someone can post the facts and not run off to rabid speculation.

A nit picking point though.
Jobs in not "stepping aside to focus on his health". In fact, as he states, "As CEO, I plan to remain involved in major strategic decisions while I am out. Our board of directors fully supports this plan." He is not actually stepping aside.

He is minimizing his day-to-day involvement at Apple. This may be good (staff won't have to worry about his tirades) or bad (some staff wouldn't come up with some of the items they have it Jobs had not been a real pain in the ass). Only time will tell.




RE: Congratulations to Daily Tech
By KernD on 1/14/2009 9:15:35 PM , Rating: 2
He is stepping aside, what he isn't doing is stepping down.


Respect the man!
By Senju on 1/14/2009 7:42:54 PM , Rating: 2
It is sad to see how many people on DailyTech bad mouth Steve Jobs. It will be looked as great man in the history books and a great leader in Technology.
Note: Don't get me wrong! I a windows user. I do not even have a mac at home. But I really think he should get more understanding.




RE: Respect the man!
By foolsgambit11 on 1/14/2009 9:04:25 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing is clear, except in hindsight. Lots of people badmouthed Lincoln. People thought Hitler would go down in the history books as a great leader, too. Only time will tell if Steve Jobs is even remembered 50 years from now. Will he be a Henry Ford or a Louis Chevrolet? Or will he be a Philo Farnsworth?


Good Job
By Phynaz on 1/14/2009 6:39:00 PM , Rating: 2
Brandon, I'm glad to see you took the high road with this report.




Its Over!
By MrPerez on 1/15/2009 1:51:04 AM , Rating: 2
OMG So the evil grip on apple consumers is over? You can now use your iPod without iTunes? iPhone actualy does make phone calls at good quality?

Is Fidel and Steve the same man?

P.S: Whats with Jobs funny hat in the picture is that the new iHat? So now apple can kill your thoughts and brick your brain too? :-X




The most important thing..
By Nirach on 1/15/2009 4:42:57 AM , Rating: 2
Will Mr. Ill respond to his emails?

Who gives a crap who runs Apple, I mean, they fired him once and ran without him, so.. It'll be like the good old days!




Based on the picture of Jobs...
By superflex on 1/15/2009 9:25:42 AM , Rating: 2
...it looks like he's been digging for mud and smoking someone else's rig.




a first!
By parge on 1/15/2009 2:04:35 AM , Rating: 1
Remarkably, on this story that is ripe for some flames, I see not a single mod down!




God speed Steve
By hiscross on 1/14/09, Rating: -1
RE: God speed Steve
By SlyNine on 1/14/2009 8:41:05 PM , Rating: 3
Yea I hate to kick someone when their lieing on a bed of cash.


RE: God speed Steve
By hiscross on 1/14/09, Rating: 0
RE: God speed Steve
By SlyNine on 1/17/2009 4:05:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'd certainly feel much more sorry for him.


RE: God speed Steve
By foolsgambit11 on 1/14/2009 8:58:42 PM , Rating: 3
Has he changed because he's sick? I don't want him to die; on the contrary, I hope he fully recovers soon. But why should his illness change my opinion of him (whatever that opinion may be)?

To take it to ridiculous extremes, Osama Bin Laden may have kidney disease and need dialysis. He may have diabetes, apparently. Should I speak respectfully and piously of him, as well?

There's nothing special about dying - anyone can do it. The important thing is what you do with your life, and I think people are just expressing what they think of how Jobs has lived his life.


RE: God speed Steve
By hiscross on 1/14/2009 9:15:46 PM , Rating: 1
"There's nothing special about dying" Dying brings final judgment. That will special forever

"I think people are just expressing what they think of how Jobs has lived his life." Like the people who wrote their feelings actually know Steve. Sure they do, they just speak negative because that what they appear to be negative people. Maybe they can become "Change we can believe in" and become positive. Now that would be nice, and while they are at it give Steve some respect. He never killed anyone.


RE: God speed Steve
By robinthakur on 1/15/2009 5:54:30 AM , Rating: 2
I think you've revealed your crazyness when you start comparing Steve jobs to Osama Bin Laden...I agree that illness shouldn't change your opinion of somebody generally, but its a littel tasteless to read that he's so ill in the main story and then scroll down to read all these heartless crass comments which actually say more about the commenters non existent sense of compassion than Mr Jobs.


RIP...
By Marlin1975 on 1/14/09, Rating: -1
RE: RIP...
By Phynaz on 1/14/2009 6:44:37 PM , Rating: 1
So it only took to the second post for the hate...


RE: RIP...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/14/2009 6:57:06 PM , Rating: 5
He is dead on though. Jobs and his RDF are wonders of marketing. I never knew just how much myself until he got up in front of the audience and told of the magical switch to an Intel platform and how it was like the second coming for the macintosh pc line. He was bashing Intel for years when Apple was using the IBM Power PC platform. Yet the crowd cheered at this abrupt about face without hesitation or question.

Frankly I dislike Jobs and all he stands for. (Appearance over all else)


RE: RIP...
By cmdrdredd on 1/14/2009 7:04:49 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Frankly I dislike Jobs and all he stands for. (Appearance over all else)


From the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley"

Jobs: "Our stuff is better!" *glaring stare to Bill Gates*
Gates: *stare with wide eyes* "...It doesn't matter" *Turns and walks away*
Jobs: *mad look on his face*


RE: RIP...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/14/2009 7:10:36 PM , Rating: 3
That was a great movie. The actors look and feel like young Bill and Steve.


RE: RIP...
By foolsgambit11 on 1/14/2009 8:27:46 PM , Rating: 2
I loved seeing Anthony Michael Hall as Gates. Well, seeing him in anything is fun. Like, is that the same little kid who brought a flare gun to school because his elephant lamp wouldn't light up in The Breakfast Club? It is!


RE: RIP...
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/09, Rating: -1
RE: RIP...
By Goty on 1/14/2009 7:27:06 PM , Rating: 4
Neither would most PC users. You have to remember, people like us that visit these kinds of sites are in the extreme minority.


RE: RIP...
By Reclaimer77 on 1/14/2009 7:29:35 PM , Rating: 5
Except our extreme minority is way bigger than your's. So HA!

/kicks sand in face and runs


RE: RIP...
By Goty on 1/14/2009 9:24:09 PM , Rating: 3
... by "us" I mean PC users, so good job!


RE: RIP...
By foolsgambit11 on 1/14/09, Rating: 0
RE: RIP...
By Oregonian2 on 1/14/2009 7:36:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So it only took to the second post for the hate...


Are you counting my post that mentioned the event in another thread before this thread was started? :-)


RE: RIP...
By AstroCreep on 1/14/2009 9:18:07 PM , Rating: 2
I'm surprised it took that long.


RE: RIP...
By cmdrdredd on 1/14/2009 7:00:03 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Or in other words over priced items that do nothing more then what else is out there but at a lot more money and over glam metrosexual image appeal.


LOL so true and you wouldn't imagine how many times I hear "how come you don't have a MacBook?" when I'm sitting on wifi somewhere. My answer? "Because I don't like to spend $1000 on a computer with less memory, smaller HDD, and smaller screen just because someone like you thinks it's cool"

Really, it's like marketing a Horse Turd only polished to people who shovel Cow Turds daily.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/14/09, Rating: 0
RE: RIP...
By zombiexl on 1/14/2009 8:36:59 PM , Rating: 2
So you have a battery life graph. Apple has impressive battery life, according to the graph anyway.

The main question is why are the macs not included in any other graphs in that article?


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/14/09, Rating: -1
RE: RIP...
By foolsgambit11 on 1/14/2009 8:49:09 PM , Rating: 2
Why aren't any of the MacBooks in the 720p playback test? Did they not bother to install software that could do it, or is it not possible? What are the MacBook numbers when running Vista - you know, like you'll need to do if you want to play most games (if the graphics system is up to the task in the first place)?

Your links show not that Macs can do something more than what else is out there - they just do what they can do longer. But for many people's usage models, the MacBook does provide a good option. Of course, if you need to use your PC longer, you can just carry extra batteries - not an option on the Air or this year's MBP.

You could just run OSX (illegally) on any other PC, and then you'd be able to see the same power numbers, roughly. Assuming that the hacking required to get it running doesn't break the power saving controls. But you'd be able to get the hardware you want, or equivalent hardware at a lower price. Though it may not look as pretty. And I acknowledge that Macs aren't always as overpriced as some people make them out to be. Especially on the high end, since WinPCs generally have extravagant markups as well.

Again - there's definitely a usage model where Macs make sense. But the practical part of that usage model (which isn't huge) is being hacked away at by netbooks and low-priced notebooks, which offer similar capabilities for a much lower price. Netbooks haven't completely co-opted that usage model, but they are starting to encroach. That leaves aesthetics, which I won't pooh-pooh as a purchase criterion. I like my consumer electronics to look good, too.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/14/09, Rating: 0
RE: RIP...
By PhoenixKnight on 1/14/2009 11:31:43 PM , Rating: 2
That doesn't necessarily prove that Macs are better at power efficiency, just OS X :p


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 1:30:02 AM , Rating: 1
Since Macs are sold with Mac OS X as default OS this makes them more efficient, from the point of view of the consumer.


RE: RIP...
By acase on 1/15/2009 9:06:45 AM , Rating: 3
Smelling your own farts can be efficient too. The problem lies in what it is efficient at doing...


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 1:23:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The problem lies in what it is efficient at doing
The answer to that question is in the anandtech articles links to which I posted here. If you are too dumb to understand these articles, I can't help you. Try chewing some mentats, maybe THIS will help :)))


RE: RIP...
By AlexWade on 1/14/2009 9:12:35 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, it is overpriced. But the man is a marketing genius. He could sell iDirt for $200 a box, he is that good. Without Steve Jobs, Apple is nothing. With him, Apple is relevant. He plays to his base and does it well.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/14/09, Rating: -1
RE: RIP...
By cmdrdredd on 1/14/2009 10:52:01 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Enjoy your stupid urban legend about overpriced Macs while smart people use the graphs and numbers above to make a reasonable choice, not affected by moronic urban legends of yours. quote: Without Steve Jobs, Apple is nothing As long as PCs trail way behind Macs as shown in the graphs/numbers above it doesn't matter if Jobs guides Apple or someone else guides Apple. The strength of the Mac is in those graphs above, not in Jobs. Got it?


How often do you do REAL work on a laptop without it plugged into a power source? You lose and fall flat on your face here because nobody uses a 17" laptop as a true laptop, I've never once seen anyone with a MacBook Pro out at starbucks. Users with these systems use it as their main system plugged into power 90% or more of the time. Period.

The fact is, it IS overpriced. You get a faster CPu, faster and bigger HDD, and more memory standard with a Windows based laptop. If you're looking at 17" you aren't concerned with uber portability which is where you'd need a long battery life.

lets see performance graphs? Oh wait...you can't produce them. Curious...maybe because the Apple system is gimped internals with a fancy case.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/09, Rating: 0
RE: RIP...
By StevoLincolnite on 1/14/2009 11:07:53 PM , Rating: 3
Seriously, I wish people would get over the PC vs Mac debates, Sure it may have been relevant when the Mac used the Power PC Processors... but now they use Intel.

They are basically a dulled-up PC with a different operating system whacked on it.


RE: RIP...
By cmdrdredd on 1/14/2009 11:42:49 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Seriously, I wish people would get over the PC vs Mac debates, Sure it may have been relevant when the Mac used the Power PC Processors... but now they use Intel. They are basically a dulled-up PC with a different operating system whacked on it.


Doesn't change the fact that you're paying hundreds, maybe up to a thousand dollars more than you have to for a similar configured PC system. Actually you can buy a 15.4" windows laptop with 320GB HDD & 4GB Memory for around $300 less than a base MacBook with 160GB HDD and 2GB of memory with a comparable CPU.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/09, Rating: 0
RE: RIP...
By Captain828 on 1/15/2009 2:52:16 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think you've been taking your medication as of late...

guys, let's just leave the poor guy alone


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/09, Rating: -1
RE: RIP...
By B3an on 1/15/2009 5:10:58 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously, just F*** off Pirks. Nobody listens to you. ALL your post get rated down. You insult everyone, are really smug, have a superiority complex, think you know more about computers (when in reality if you did, you wouldn't be using macs) and you're more immature than a average 12 year old kid.

You sum up every stereo type about apple users.


RE: RIP...
By robinthakur on 1/15/2009 5:47:20 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
think you know more about computers (when in reality if you did, you wouldn't be using macs


Sorry but that is utter BS. I work in IT as a SharePoint Developer and website developer/designer and I use a Macbook Pro as well as PC's, there's nothing inherently wrong with Macbooks, they are decent machines which are well built and designed. Even though I know I could technically get the same spec cheaper, the way the little things like the magnetic power cable, track pad, ports array, and keyboard (and obviously OSX when I'm not booted to Vista) have been designed make it worth it *in my opinion* not to mention the consistantly pleasing design in general.

To a certain crowd (i.e. not gamers or people who build their own) Macbooks are not appealing because you can't really tweak them. I would never have considered buying one in the past when I used to build PC's and overclock, but now my priorities have changed somewhat, and all my gaming is done on the consoles and I use pc's for productivity stuff like Photoshop/Maya/Visual Studio etc only. In this context, or for people who aren't gamers, Macbooks are a viable and compelling alternative.

The premium you pay over similarly specced laptops which aren't bargain bin tat or a netbook isn't as great as you might think...I've owned Lenovos and Dell's in the past and wouldn't go back unless Apple really mess up.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 1:30:03 PM , Rating: 2
Trying to talk to braindead zombie named B3an? Don't waste your time, robinthakur. He's beyond repair, just like SavagePotato, it's obvious.


RE: RIP...
By B3an on 1/16/2009 4:20:29 AM , Rating: 2
The only one beyond repair here is you pirks, obvious from your all your rated down posts. Yet you cant get it through your thick skull. Should change your name to iSheep.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/16/2009 1:52:32 PM , Rating: 1
Too afraid to reply to robinthakur, PC pussy? *LOL* Just quetly swallowed his "your words about Macs, B3an, is utter BS"? How does it taste, pussy? :))


RE: RIP...
By Aloonatic on 1/15/2009 4:55:52 AM , Rating: 2
To be fair, comparing "premium" car brands is a pretty good comparison.

They usually offer little more intrinsic value over cheaper cars, many even have less power or a similar amount but weigh more so offer no greater performance but they have a few more bells and whistles, look nicer and (most importantly) have a badge on them that the owner is convinced makes people go "ooooh" look how successful, cool, rich or whatever the add tells you they are and charge you much much more for the privilege.

People are welcome to buy their BMWs and Lexie etc (what is the plural of Lexus? Lexuses/Lexie???) and can pay ridiculously over the odds for every little extra and think that you look great, where as most people think you're an ass who may or may not have a side line in non prescription medications that the authorities might be interested in.

I'm not sure how pointing out that car manufacturers are as bad as Apple helps you out though.

The same can be said about designer clothing brands too. There are many things that have no more value than what some add man has convinced you that exists. If you're happy with what you've got then good for you.

Key word for the day is "brand".


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 3:31:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm not sure how pointing out that car manufacturers are as bad as Apple helps you out though
Since when satisfying your consumer desires is considered BAD behavior in the business world?? What a nonsense.


RE: RIP...
By StevoLincolnite on 1/15/2009 3:47:39 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Doesn't change the fact that you're paying hundreds, maybe up to a thousand dollars more than you have to for a similar configured PC system. Actually you can buy a 15.4" windows laptop with 320GB HDD & 4GB Memory for around $300 less than a base MacBook with 160GB HDD and 2GB of memory with a comparable CPU.


And I could pay less by building myself a system rather than a Dell, I see your point, but the point is a bit pointless considering we all vote with our wallets.

I'm not a Mac fan by any length. (I hate the Operating system personally), but the constant arguing of which platform is better almost creates a migraine.


RE: RIP...
By Nirach on 1/15/2009 5:56:08 AM , Rating: 1
Daft question, but how the chuff does a set of charts about battery life relate to cost?

Just an FYI, Macs can suck my danglies :) I've had four of the damned things, and can safely say I never want another one.


RE: RIP...
By acase on 1/15/2009 9:20:10 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Just an FYI, Macs can suck my danglies :) I've had four of the damned things, and can safely say I never want another one.


I don't blame you, who would want 5 danglies?


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 1:35:41 PM , Rating: 2
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Daft question, but how the chuff does a set of charts about battery life relate to cost?
I don't know, really. I was also wondering myself, why the chuff all those ultra fuel economy cars with electric/fuel cell/etc stuff cost so much more than your cheapo gas guzzling Crown Victoria 2000. The world if full of enigmas, man :o)


RE: RIP...
By robinthakur on 1/15/2009 5:31:48 AM , Rating: 2
The more I read Dailytech, the more it seems people lack civility and general decency. The guy is clearly majorly ill, yet in your tiny minds, some product that he created (which was very successful) and the way in which that product was marketed is somehow more important.

The way in which Apple dealt with an issue I had with my iPhone 3G recently really annoyed me and made me question their arrogance (make an appointment at the iPhone helpdesk to get a broken headset replaced with a wait time of 3 days!! However they did resolve my strong complaint very well and quickly) but I wouldn't deny them their dues and especially Steve jobs who has been a powerhouse for the company and for the industry in general, purely for the sake of being mean spirited.

Its simply incredibly undfair to give Apple, its designers, its marketers and Jobs himself such short shrift when he has proven time and again that he is an innovator in an industry of immitators. Apple's PR skills have taught MS a thing or two also, which can only benefit the wider PC audience outside the industry. Its telling that you have to concoct the RDF when a far simpler explanation is that people buy and like Apple products based on their merits relative to their competition.


RE: RIP...
By Pirks on 1/15/2009 1:41:05 PM , Rating: 1
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Its simply incredibly undfair to give Apple, its designers, its marketers and Jobs himself such short shrift when he has proven time and again that he is an innovator in an industry of immitators. Apple's PR skills have taught MS a thing or two also, which can only benefit the wider PC audience outside the industry. Its telling that you have to concoct the RDF when a far simpler explanation is that people buy and like Apple products based on their merits relative to their competition.
Man, why are you wasting your time typing all this in vain? You think local Wintel/Microsoft zombies will get it? Their brains are dead and been so for a looong time, so leave it to me. I have a nice stick for them ;) When you see MS/Wintel zombie like B3an or SavagePotato - you just hit it. Why talk if it has no brain? :-) Have fun beating the zombies here, and don't waste your time talking to them!


RE: RIP...
By kelmon on 1/15/2009 6:06:58 AM , Rating: 2
I wasn't going to post anything but I just want to say that most of the people posting on this article and particularly this thread of discussion disgust me. You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

Get well soon. Is that so difficult to say?


"I mean, if you wanna break down someone's door, why don't you start with AT&T, for God sakes? They make your amazing phone unusable as a phone!" -- Jon Stewart on Apple and the iPhone
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