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First fully 3-D printed gun test fired

Staples has become the first major U.S. retailer to offer easy access to 3-D printers on its website. Staples is offering a printer by a company called 3D Systems known as The Cube. The 3-D printer is available for $1,299.

The Cube uses digital design files as blueprints to build physical three-dimensional objects layer-by-layer using plastic. The printer is capable of printing just about anything the user can dream up from action figures to iPhone docks and more.

Cube 3D Printer

The Cube can print products up to 5 1/2 inches on each dimension. Print media is available in 16 different colors and the printer ships with 25 design templates included.

Staples will also offer consumables for the 3-D printer online and in some of its stores.

Speaking of 3-D printers, a company called Defense Distributed recently tested the world's first completely 3-D printed gun. The only parts of the weapon not created using a 3-D printer are the firing pin, which is a nail, and the .380 caliber bullet. The weapon successfully completed a single test shot and misfired on an additional test shot.
When loaded with a more powerful 5.7 x 28 rifle cartridge the gun exploded.
You can watch the video of the test firing below:

Sources: CNN, Forbes

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By LRonaldHubbs on 5/6/2013 10:34:58 AM , Rating: 5
This isn't Shane's error, it's an error in the original Forbes article. 5.7x28mm isn't a rifle cartridge. It was designed by FN Herstal specifically for use in the famous P90 (SMG) and Five-seveN (handgun) weapons.×28mm

RE: 5.7x28mm
By superflex on 5/6/2013 11:03:25 AM , Rating: 4
Media spin at it's best. Big scary rifle round.
5.7 is a handgun/smg round designed to defeat body armor.
I'd like to see someone fire a 7.62 round out of their plastic fantastic gun. Mayhem.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By dgingerich on 5/6/2013 11:13:43 AM , Rating: 2
It's a very well designed ammunition. I'd love to get my hands on a FiveSeven, but at $1100 they're a bit too pricey for me. The 5.7X28mm is as powerful as a .45ACP, but lighter and gives less kick back. It's a tumbler, like an M-16 round, rather than a fragmenting round. It does it's damage by tumbling through the target and spreading around the damage.

It would be a good round for a 3d printed gun, once the technology makes the plastic a bit stronger, and/or makes metallic 3d printing more available.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/6/2013 12:07:08 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, it's an excellent gun. I bought mine on my 21st birthday. One of the best purchases I've ever made.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By Lord 666 on 5/6/2013 12:23:16 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed about the P90 and 57 being nice weapons. Both handle extremely well and is in my opinion a special purpose 9mm replacement.

However, it does not have the stopping power of .45 ACP. Is it lethal, very much so... look at Fort Hood. But the first sworn PD (in GA) to use as their carry engaged in active fire with it, but quickly went back to his previous weapon.

IMHO... 357 Sig is the all around best pistol round. Standard issue for NJ State PD and TX DPS. Since TX has been using it, there has been only one survivor with the remaining being fatal wounds.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By Jaybus on 5/6/2013 1:16:06 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe the 357 Sig. However, .45 ACP has withstood the test of time and has been proven time and again in actual combat.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By mjdaly on 5/6/2013 6:26:53 PM , Rating: 3
I have both a FiveseveN and a PS90. I wouldn't trade either of them for anything. While we could get into one of those great internet fights of 9mm vs .45, I would just say that the 5.7x28mm cartridge tends to perform alot like a 9mm as far as ballistics go. The great benefit of the FiveseveN, however, is that fully loaded with 20+1 rounds the thing is 30% lighter than your typical polymer 9mm with 16+1 rounds. It is a larger firearm, however the weight is incredibly low and the recoil is light enough to make follow on shots easy. It was a great compliment to my collection of normal 9mm and .45 ACP handguns.

For those that are unfamiliar with the notation of X+1 on magazine sizes, many folks that carry, either concealed or openly, will have the firearm with a full magazine and one loaded in the chamber. This is normally done with any applicable safety on. In the unlikely event of its being needed, no time is wasted having to chamber a round.

In regards to the printed gun, no thanks. I do not plan on having any of my guns blow up in my hand. Technology is getting better, but it is not there yet.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By Dr. Kenneth Noisewater on 5/6/2013 12:10:26 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the Five seveN also has a default mag of 20 rounds, with a mildly-extended 30rd mag available, which would be more concealable than, say, the 9mm Glock stick.

But AFAIK the ammo is single-source (or near enough), and both it and the weapons themselves are crazy expensive. The civilian ammo has polymer jackets so as to not be armor piercing.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/6/2013 1:14:42 PM , Rating: 2
You are correct, the Five-seveN comes with three magazines, and you can choose either 10 or 20 round mags. You can also get aftermarket 30-round magazines which extend the grip by about 1.5 inches.

The ammo is basically single source -- I've only ever seen FN branded ammo. The price has always been high, but it has also been remarkably stable. When I bought the gun in 2007 it was ~$20/50. When handgun ammo spiked in price after Obama's first election, 5.7 ammo was still ~$22/50. Even now the price is still ~$22/50. So at times my Five-seveN has actually been cheaper to shoot than my 9mm.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By Reclaimer77 on 5/6/2013 7:16:05 PM , Rating: 2
Try reloads? I've fired thousands of rounds from these guys without a single misfire. Save a lot of money these days shooting reloads.

Didn't search for it myself, but maybe they have it. They tour a lot of gun shows too.

RE: 5.7x28mm
By Reclaimer77 on 5/6/2013 7:10:48 PM , Rating: 3
The 5.7X28mm is as powerful as a .45ACP, but lighter and gives less kick back. It's a tumbler, like an M-16 round, rather than a fragmenting round.

Strongly disagree.

Now this is coming from a Concealed Carry permit holder, and an IDPA competition shooter (still a bit noob). But there's no way I would use 5.7 as my carry. It's far more likely to just punch through someone and hit an innocent person. It has less stopping power than my .40, and far less than a .45.

The whole "tumbling" thing? Mostly not going to happen at typical self-defense shooting ranges. According to the FBI, most defensive shootings take place at ranges of 3 to 6 feet. At that range the 5.7mm isn't going to be "tumbling", it's going to probably just blow through the person and hit whatever, or whoever, is behind them.

It's not as powerful as the .45ACP. There's no reliable self-defense ammunition for it (that I would trust). A .45 will leave a very large wound cavity inside a person with very little chance of over-penetration or exiting the body with proper self-defense ammunition.

I shoot with the guys who like the FN, but it's mostly a "cheater gun" used to boost their accuracy for IDPA scores. As far as a all-around general purpose/concealed carry gun? Worthless in my opinion.

By Lord 666 on 5/6/2013 10:29:05 AM , Rating: 2
Not sure why they didn't use a .22LR for this versus the .380 or p90 round. Oh well, guess print another one.

Can assume a method be made to have the "ink" be detected via chemical odor sensors or similar to the way c4 is detected at airports.

RE: Impressive
By retrospooty on 5/6/2013 10:51:46 AM , Rating: 2
I saw an article a few months back on some larger cal 3D printed weapons. Most cracked after 5-10 shots fired. This .22 cal probably greatly improves that .

RE: Impressive
By Motoman on 5/6/2013 11:02:43 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah there's no need for a large gun and/or caliber for the sorts of devious purposes one might imagine for a printed gun.

If you're an assassin, all you need is a dinky little Derringer-style gun with a single .22 load. Sneak up on your target, apply the gun to a nice squishy spot on the noggin, and the .22 does the job quite adequately.

Then dispose of your disposable gun and walk away.

RE: Impressive
By retrospooty on 5/6/2013 11:19:05 AM , Rating: 3
So many ways to kill. Hell look at what happened in Boston a few weeks ago... It goes to show you, if someone is set on killing people, they will get it done one way or another. "Guns dont kill people, nuts and bolts in a chem stew in a pressure cooker kills people".

RE: Impressive
By BRB29 on 5/6/2013 12:38:04 PM , Rating: 3
You're absolutely right but he's trying to say that now there's a new option for people bent on doing bad things. Not only that, it's as easy as operating a printer and downloading a file. It's also very easy to conceal, hide, dispose of and track. The other problem is that these guns can be made to look like it's something else.
Criminals now can have a little more peace of mind as their evidence trail can easily be disposed of.

RE: Impressive
By Wererat on 5/7/2013 10:21:34 AM , Rating: 2
Wrong conclusion. Please research the origin of the term "Liberator" in the context of firearms and try again.

Your theoretical assassin would be better off with a common ballpoint pen in the circumstance you describe (namely, not so much an 'assassination' as an execution). Really, a quick rabbit punch would do as much without the mess and gunpowder residue.

A criminal (later comments) doesn't want a wierd plastic gun; he wants intimidation. The psycho or terrorist won't get too far with one .380 shot.

The only practical use for this is the one the original WWII "Liberator" was designed for: resistance against tyrants (in the original, Adolf's boys).

RE: Impressive
By BRB29 on 5/6/2013 11:15:20 AM , Rating: 2
You only need to fire one shot and hit your target. At this size and being plastic, it's undetectable in most cases. When 3D printers are produced on mass scale, imagine how hard it would be to trace a weapon in an investigation.

Then we'd have a bunch of OJ Simpson-like crimes and many more books titling "If I did it"

RE: Impressive
By superflex on 5/6/2013 11:05:06 AM , Rating: 1
P90 round is 5.7 x 28.
Thanks for playing

RE: Impressive
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/6/2013 12:03:54 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks for admitting you didn't read the next to last sentence of the article.

By Nortel on 5/6/13, Rating: 0
RE: conjoined
By russki on 5/6/2013 11:12:10 AM , Rating: 3
You also have to get the firing pin and bullet through a metal detector, lol. The barrel really should be made out of metal as well.. gun exploded with larger caliber... duh? lol

RE: conjoined
By dgingerich on 5/6/2013 11:18:13 AM , Rating: 3
The last time I flew somewhere, I made sure to leave everything metallic except my phone and keys back home, and then packed my car keys before I checked my luggage, to make it easier to get through security. Little did I know, I left one dime, the smallest, thinnest US coin, in between a couple bills in my pocket. The metal detector spotted it, and I had to go through that extended pat down procedure. I almost missed my flight because of that stupid dime.

While the nail just might be able to make it through the detector, a .380 round certainly would not.

RE: conjoined
By bsd228 on 5/6/2013 4:43:40 PM , Rating: 2
While the nail just might be able to make it through the detector, a .380 round certainly would not.

The results from the various airport red tests, where they attempt to pass entire loaded guns through security checks, suggests that a single 380 round has pretty good chances. And every so often we hear about CCW folks who forgot they had a gun in their briefcase and then admit it mid flight, forcing a flight diversion. For each of those people, figure 100 more wisely keep their mouth shut and let the plane continue on plan.

Though if it does show up, the TSA people are going to search you pretty thoroughly by hand. 'I forgot a bullet in my pocket' is not a good story for them.

RE: conjoined
By ritualm on 5/6/2013 11:49:15 AM , Rating: 1
What does a 3D printer have to do feck all with Apple? Oh yeah, it comes in various rainbow colors. OMG someone sue the company for copying Apple!

Nortel is a moron.

RE: conjoined
By retrospooty on 5/6/2013 12:10:03 PM , Rating: 1
While i agree with your assesement 100%, he has said far more moronic things than this... In fact, on a 10 scale of moronic things Nortel posts, this is toward the low end. Sometimes my palm literally and totally subconsciously hits my forehead when reading the idiotic things this guys posts. My favorite is how Samsung copied Apple with its choice in RAM sized of 16,32,64gb in its phones. LOL. Now THAT one is a 10. "16,32,64gb ram? a total ripoff of Apple's idea" ROFL

RE: conjoined
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/6/2013 1:11:54 PM , Rating: 3
My favorite is how Samsung copied Apple with its choice in RAM sized of 16,32,64gb in its phones. LOL. Now THAT one is a 10. "16,32,64gb ram? a total ripoff of Apple's idea" ROFL
That's a classic, it should scroll at the bottom of DT so people can see how much of a moron he really is.

RE: conjoined
By retrospooty on 5/6/2013 2:14:59 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... I bet you anything within a year or two it will be bumped up. Let me just use a random # here... Say 128gb. ;)

RE: conjoined
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/7/13, Rating: 0
So can it...
By TemjinGold on 5/6/2013 1:26:28 PM , Rating: 5
Can it print a 3D printer? :)

RE: So can it...
By geekman1024 on 5/6/2013 8:55:40 PM , Rating: 2
I'm more interested in: "Can it print the suit in Crysis?".

RE: So can it...
By Milliamp on 5/6/2013 9:36:47 PM , Rating: 2
Check out it is a (mostly) self-replicating 3D printer in that most the parts needed to make the machine can be produced by the machine.

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