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Sprint hopes to knock it out of the park with the HTC EVO 4G

Microsoft has been making waves with its Windows Phone 7 Series operating system, Palm is battling the Grim Reaper with slow sales of the Pre and Pixi, and Apple is just on cruise control until the next generation iPhone and iPhone OS 4.0 hit later this summer. Forget the looming lawsuit from Apple, HTC and Sprint are looking to spice things up with some Android lovin' in the form of the HTC EVO 4G.

As its name implies, the new smartphone takes advantage of Sprint's advanced 4G WiMAX network. In addition, the phone supports EV-DO Rev. A, CDMA, and EV-DO.

"Sprint continues to lead the 4G revolution as we introduce HTC EVO 4G to give our customers an experience that is unlike anything available in wireless to date," said Sprint CEO Dan Hesse. "Not only is this feature-rich device incredible on our Sprint 3G network, but Sprint 4G speeds will take mobile multimedia, including live video streaming, gaming and picture downloads, to a whole new level."

When it comes to the specs sheet, many people thought that the Google Nexus One had just about every smartphone on the market beat. The HTC EVO 4G simply crushes everything else on the market thanks to a 4.3" (480x800) TFT LCD, 1GHz Snapdragon processor, 512MB RAM, 8.0mp camera in addition to a 1.3mp front-facing camera for video conferencing, GPS, digital compass, stereo Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, mobile HDTV, and HDMI (720p) output. When it comes to storage, the HTC EVO 4G has 1GB of storage built-in and can support up to 32GB via a microSD slot.

Being that the HTC EVO 4G is a flagship Android device, it is obviously running Android 2.1.

"HTC and Sprint have a strong history of working together to bring consumers technologies and advancements that make their lives easier," added HTC CEO Peter Chou. "We believe that the HTC EVO 4G represents the best of Sprint and the best of HTC working together to bring an unmatched device to the U.S. This combination of HTC and Sprint innovation will allow people to do even more while on the go, faster than ever on the Sprint 4G network."

Sprint has not announced pricing for the HTC EVO 4G, but the phone will be available this summer.

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The God of all phones...
By quiksilvr on 3/23/2010 9:52:30 PM , Rating: 3
This is the God of all phones. There's just a couple of minute things that are bothering me?

1) How come no n wireless support? I understand it's primarily going to be getting 4G, but that doesn't mean it isn't wanted. I find it strange that they pushed the envelope in EVERY possible area except for the wireles.

2) Why not OLED or AMOLED or even LED backlit? Wouldn't that really save battery life given the size of that almighty screen?

RE: The God of all phones...
By shabby on 3/23/2010 9:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
The samsung galaxy s has a 4" amoled screen
Near the end of the video they compare the quality of the screen to the iphone.

RE: The God of all phones...
By soydios on 3/23/2010 11:26:28 PM , Rating: 3
3) why no physical keyboard?

yes I know the form factor, but the Touch Pro 2's physical keyboard is so awesome. I want a Nexus One with the TP2's keyboard.

RE: The God of all phones...
By MrX8503 on 3/24/2010 12:34:22 AM , Rating: 5
2)4.3" screen
3)HDMI Out
4)Records/Plays 720P
6)2 Cameras (8mp back, 1.3mp front)

This phone is already breaking records, spec wise, I think you can live without a keyboard.

RE: The God of all phones...
By quiksilvr on 3/24/2010 1:07:44 AM , Rating: 3
That and the fact that the virtual keyboard is this big:

I mean, my GOD. How can you miss?

RE: The God of all phones...
By redbone75 on 3/24/2010 10:03:51 AM , Rating: 4
Arrow keys? Arrow keys?!? Be still, my beating heart :) I have found my next phone.

RE: The God of all phones...
By Blight AC on 3/24/2010 11:53:19 AM , Rating: 2
Don't forget Swype, the new input method looks to really improve the way you use onscreen keyboards. Looks good enough to make me forget about the Droid keyboard, which I currently love.

Link for Swype infos (or just Google it):

This HTC phone is pretty awesome looking, spec-wise, though. I think the only thing I'd change is the CPU, Tegra 2 please, which should give it the power to do 1080p over HDMI.

RE: The God of all phones...
By noxipoo on 4/12/2010 5:29:41 PM , Rating: 2
don't forget

it's free on android and here now.

RE: The God of all phones...
By Motoman on 3/24/2010 1:45:53 AM , Rating: 4
No, no I can't live without a real keyboard. Any and all onscreen keyboards are permanently inferior to a real keyboard, and I will not ever buy a phone without a real keyboard.

...if this phone had a real keyboard, I'd buy one tomorrow. Not even kidding, not a little bit.

...but no real keyboard? It's useless to me. Just a toy.

RE: The God of all phones...
By PrezWeezy on 3/24/2010 2:26:08 PM , Rating: 5
Why did people rate down the fact that he doesn't like the on-screen keyboards? That's one thing I've been hating to see the trend of as well. I can't stand the on screen ones. My error rate on those things is 15 times higher than on a physical board. Not everyone has to like the on-screen stuff and he shouldn't be rated down just for his usage model. In fact, I think people like us should post MORE often so phone makers will continue to make phones with real keyboards.

RE: The God of all phones...
By Motoman on 3/25/2010 11:51:56 AM , Rating: 2
Why did people rate down the fact that he doesn't like the on-screen keyboards?

...because the magic box in the living room tells them that they *need* an onscreen keyboard.

That. Is. All.

There is no good excuse, ever, for an onscreen keyboard - technological niftiness is a poor replacement for fitness-for-purpose. it doesn't matter that a real keyboard will always be superior, in every way, to an onscreen keyboard - it's "old" and it's "not cool" and since onscreen keyboards are "cool" and "new" that's what the sheeple will buy.

RE: The God of all phones...
By Bateluer on 3/24/2010 7:21:12 AM , Rating: 5
No, I cannot. Physical keyboards are an absolute must. Touch tablets are smooth and sexy, but without the real keyboard, they will always play second fiddle to devices that do, like the Droid and TP2.

RE: The God of all phones...
By Gul Westfale on 3/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: The God of all phones...
By omnicronx on 3/24/2010 11:07:53 AM , Rating: 2
While once true, that trend seems to be changing. Furthermore are you seriously backing up your claims with two phones that have not sold in total what the iPhone sells in a quarter?

I too like a physical keyboard, but check your opinions at the door, as you cannot pass them off as fact (seems to be a reoccurring theme here). True touch devices are still in their infancy, just 3 years ago touch only devices accounted for a fraction of a percent of the market. Thats a lot of growth in such a small period of time. Especially when you consider that for the first few years, the iPhone was the only device with decent on screen keyboard. (HTC's is pretty good, but the resistive displays of the past are not on the same playing field and certainly don't compare to a physical keyboard)
they will always play second fiddle
You cannot possibly backup such a statement, so why even make it?

RE: The God of all phones...
By Motoman on 3/24/10, Rating: -1
RE: The God of all phones...
By Suntan on 3/24/2010 12:58:39 PM , Rating: 3
Run along now.

Don't be such a dink.

The previous poster you responded to was pretty much agreeing with your opinion that physical keyboards are prefereable. However they also offer significant downsides to a gadget in the way of packaging, space constrants, weight, etc.

I too would love it if a company could find a way to put a usable physical keyboard onto a gadget and still offer it with just as big of a screen, just as much processor and just as large of a battery without making it physically larger. However, that's not likely to happen.

Size up the gadgets and get the one that best fits your needs. But don't be a dork thinking you "schooled" someone because you managed to explain how physical keyboards have real keys... we got that already.


RE: The God of all phones...
By Motoman on 3/24/10, Rating: -1
RE: The God of all phones...
By foolsgambit11 on 3/24/2010 4:09:54 PM , Rating: 3
That's obviously false. To fit a keyboard, you have to either

a) make the screen smaller, which negatively impacts multimedia applications on the device

b) make the device longer, which negatively impacts the portability of the device

c) make the device thicker, with a flippable/slideable keyboard, which also makes the device less portable.

In miniaturization, there are always trade-offs to be made. Some like it one way, others another, which is why there is variety in the marketplace.

RE: The God of all phones...
By omnicronx on 3/24/2010 4:30:47 PM , Rating: 2
There's plenty of proof on the market right now that shows there is no space/size penalty for having a real keyboard. None.
Name two phones that share the same platform(or similar) one with a keyboard one without, that are the same size. Otherwise you are not making an Apples to Apples comparison. If you really think the droid could not be smaller if it had not included a keyboard, you are kidding yourself.

Of perfect example that contradicts your theory is the HTC touch pro vs the HTC diamond. Hardware wise they are almost identical, yet the TP is a much larger phone. In fact from the front view they look the same, its not until you stack them up beside one another that you can see the difference.
...and for the record, I think it's quite clear that many people really have not thought about the difference between a real keyboard and onscreen. I fundamentally don't believe that everyone "gets it already." If you want to call me a dink, then fine...but I am quite certain that the vast majority of consumers really haven't "gotten" it.
Wait what? If they don't know the difference, then why would it matter if it includes a keyboard or not? Either people care or they don't, if most people 'dont know better' then obviously a keyboard cannot define a consumers phone choice.(I'm just poking holes in your logic, it is clear to me that keyboards are still a big factor, but as I said previously, touch only phones are certainly gaining ground, thus you cannot make the claim that a phone cannot be successful without a keyboard, its just curtailing to a different market)

RE: The God of all phones...
By Motoman on 3/24/2010 4:45:41 PM , Rating: 2
Name two phones that share the same platform(or similar) one with a keyboard one without, that are the same size. Otherwise you are not making an Apples to Apples comparison. If you really think the droid could not be smaller if it had not included a keyboard, you are kidding yourself.

Sure, the Droid could be thinner without the keyboard. Doesn't matter. Fundamentally, it makes no difference in the form factor. Phones with keyboards are the same size as phones without keyboards. It's not an issue.

As to the other issue, it's clear that keyboards are not seen as a big factor by the manufacturers - or the public, which is buying non-keyboarded phones in droves. Phones without keyboards are wildly successful - my point wasn't about commercial success. It is about the suitability for purpose. Typing on a properly-designed physical keyboard will always be better than the best touchscreen, period. Consumers however don't really seem to care about fitness-for-purpose - they buy what the TV tells them to. And the TV tells them to buy an iPhone, or one of the other phones that gushes about how cool it's onscreen keyboard is.

Technically, it's nifty. I get that. That's what people are buying - marketing and gimmickry. The point I'm making is that, from a fitness-for-purpose standpoint, a real keyboard has been, is, and will continue to be a vastly better option than an onscreen keyboard. And, the engineering issue is trivial, as is any form factor concern, as can be seen by looking at what's already on the market.

RE: The God of all phones...
By PrezWeezy on 3/24/2010 2:35:36 PM , Rating: 2
I defended you above, but this post is way to snide. Besides, the Samsung with swype just won the Guiness world record for typing on a cell phone. I don't LIKE onscreen. Doesn't mean that no one can use it as well.

RE: The God of all phones...
By rudy on 3/24/2010 5:44:11 PM , Rating: 2
Most people who buy iPhones do not seriously work on them. If you seriously work on a device you want a separate keyboard so you can work faster.

RE: The God of all phones...
By adiposity on 3/24/2010 1:16:22 PM , Rating: 2
NES/SNES emulators without physical buttons suck. Other than that I could probably learn to live without a keyboard. But there are still issues, like no way to arrow around on the Droid unless you open the keyboard. If you aren't going to have a keyboard then you better provide a d-pad.

Just one example of what happens without a keyboard on the Droid: you want to select a previous google search for editing. If you arrow down, it puts the data in the search field and you can edit it. If you touch it with your finger, it repeats the search but gives you no change to edit it. Hopefully, this bug is fixed in 2.1. But as of now, there is no way to edit a previous search in non-keyboard mode.

RE: The God of all phones...
By adiposity on 3/24/2010 1:17:10 PM , Rating: 2

Editing, please.

RE: The God of all phones...
By Drag0nFire on 3/24/2010 9:45:14 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sold. Assuming it has decent battery life.

When does it come out for VZW?

RE: The God of all phones...
By wiz220 on 3/24/2010 5:05:57 PM , Rating: 2
The HTC Incredible comes out for Verizon very soon and has some similar specs (8mp camera, 720p video I think) as well as an AMOLED screen if I'm remembering correctly.

RE: The God of all phones...
By nafhan on 3/24/2010 9:52:27 AM , Rating: 2
I think the lack of 802.11n may have to do with the antenna diversity requirements of 802.11n. Without multiple antennas, I don't think 802.11n would help much. Here's a snippet from the wiki article:
MIMO is a technology which uses multiple antennas to coherently resolve more information than possible using a single antenna.

RE: The God of all phones...
By steven975 on 3/24/2010 5:41:55 PM , Rating: 2
plus, N wireless isn't really necessary, and requires more power.

No OLED screen
By Shig on 3/23/2010 10:25:18 PM , Rating: 1

Been hearing good things about Samsung's 'super amoled screen'

Everything else looks good though.

RE: No OLED screen
By bodar on 3/23/10, Rating: 0
RE: No OLED screen
By TheRequiem on 3/23/2010 11:46:29 PM , Rating: 2
You guys are idiots!! I watched the video of this phone compared to iPhone and Nexus One (which has AMOLED) and the screen on this phone was waaaay nicer and wtf cares about AMOLED anyways?? It's got friggin 4g, hotspot capability and ughh, the list goes one...

RE: No OLED screen
By Aloonatic on 3/24/2010 2:55:03 AM , Rating: 2
Not to mention the increase in cost that a AMOLED screen of that size and resolution would probably add to that already pretty price bill of materials.

Is < 4" generally the affordable cut of point for AMOLED screens by the way? Going by the way that this doesn't have one, and nor does the Sony X10.

RE: No OLED screen
By bodar on 3/24/2010 4:34:30 AM , Rating: 1
What part of "definitely get" and "like the screen overall" was confusing? AMOLED -- aside from having better colors and less motion blur -- does not draw as much power since it has no backlight. But hey, why would battery power be a concern in a smartphone, right? TFT's do perform better than even AMOLED in direct sun.

Obviously, concessions have to be made to keep the cost reasonable, especially with such a large screen, 2(!) cameras, and generous hardware specs. I do realize that, and make no mistake, an EVO will be mine this summer.

RE: No OLED screen
By Aloonatic on 3/24/2010 7:10:34 AM , Rating: 2
The direct sunlight thing seems to be a bit confused. Some say that OLEDs are better, some say that backlit TFTs are better. Which is it on wise and knowledgeable DTers?

Oh well, I guess it doesn't really matter to me. I live in the UK, so the chances of ever being in direct sunlight for any extended period of time (in which I might want to use a device like this too) are somewhat slim anyway. :-D

RE: No OLED screen
By bplewis24 on 3/24/2010 11:07:23 AM , Rating: 2
This review/comparison sort of disproves some of your claims:

Droid kicks butt.


RE: No OLED screen
By Aloonatic on 3/25/2010 3:31:02 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the link :)

I'm not sure what claims you thought that I was making though. I was simply asking a question about OLED/TFT screens and their performance in day light.

I did sorta claim that the sun doesn't shine much in the UK, but I didn't see a great deal of evidence in your post to disprove that tho :-D

RE: No OLED screen
By Miff001 on 3/24/2010 3:14:44 AM , Rating: 2
It's probably rather expensive.

HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By TheRequiem on 3/23/2010 11:48:45 PM , Rating: 1
What do you have to say now??? AT&T is so far out of the 4G race, they STILL wont even be announcing a 4G phone, even NEXT summer! haha

RE: HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By dubldwn on 3/24/2010 1:31:14 AM , Rating: 2
When AT&T finishes its HSPA 7.2 backhaul deployments, end users probably won't notice the difference between that and the initial 4G speeds from the various carriers.

Plus, I don't think Sprint will have "4G" WiMAX in my city by next summer anyway.

RE: HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By Aloonatic on 3/24/2010 3:02:43 AM , Rating: 2
What is the difference between 3G and 4G anyway? Faster potential transfer rates?

I only say potential as we've had 3G over here in the UK for a while and most service providers throttle it to less than it is capable of anyway. Does the same thing happen elsewhere around the world?

RE: HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By TheRequiem on 3/24/2010 9:46:46 AM , Rating: 2
Initally maybe, but in 2012, Wimax will be upgraded to Wimax 2, which will carry speeds up to 100mbps, which isn't that far off. So initially, this will be about the time the other networks upgraded to HSPA or HSDPA.

Also, wimax is more spectrally efficent then HSPA and LTE,

So, not entirely true... also, that is a quoted media news statement, not very reliable.

RE: HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By omnicronx on 3/24/2010 11:43:09 AM , Rating: 2
Seems as though the author of that article missed the main advantage of 4G from a carriers perspective. Its not the speed, its the capacity. LTE for example has more than 3 times the capacity (as a result of a 20mhz channel width instead of 6mhz) per tower than current 3G networks.

HSPA 7.2 is completely irrelevant if the tower you are accessing is maxed out, which seems to be the case for a large percentage of AT&T's network.

In other words I completely disagree, in markets where 4g has been rolled out, end users will surely notice, as these are most likely going to be in urban areas where capacity has been an issue.

RE: HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By rett448 on 3/25/2010 4:24:35 PM , Rating: 2
Its not the tower that maxed out its the backhaul. Most cell towers are still fed with a few T-1s.

RE: HAHA Apple fanbois!!
By daveinternets on 3/24/2010 11:48:32 AM , Rating: 2
Enjoy your battery sucking 3G network.

By Chiisuchianu on 3/23/2010 9:35:15 PM , Rating: 2
sweet, hope it allows anyone to develop apps for it

RE: nice
By Abrahmm on 3/23/2010 11:18:26 PM , Rating: 5
It's running Android, why wouldn't it? Apple isn't involved.

Excellent phone, HTC!
By themaster08 on 3/24/2010 6:29:48 AM , Rating: 2
I'm glad HTC are standing up to Apple, and giving them the middle finger with brilliant phones like this.

I bet Jobs is seething!

He'll be in dire straits when Apple lose their patent case.

RE: Excellent phone, HTC!
By Aloonatic on 3/24/2010 7:03:15 AM , Rating: 2
Whilst I'm sure that you are right in saying that he won't be happy to see some genuine competition...

I'm also pretty sure that he will still be able to sleep at night, knowing that he has had a couple of years head start and built up a massive (indoctrinated) user base who all have iTunes/app-store accounts, so will find it a bind to move over to Android, WinMo 7, Memo, whatever, no matter how good the hardware might be. Many of them on nice lengthy 24 month contracts too, by which time Apple will have a new device (or 2) released or waiting in the wings.

So Dire straights? Probably not.

Still it's all good for us though. That is, If you can stand the fact that HTC seem to be releasing a new and better phone quicker than the time it takes for the ink from your signature to dry at the bottom of the 18/24 month contract that you've just signed for their last "latest and greatest" device too.

RE: Excellent phone, HTC!
By themaster08 on 3/24/2010 8:03:45 AM , Rating: 2
So Dire straights? Probably not.

I do agree with your post, however I feel he will be in dire straits as he will have absolutely no hold over the competition once Apple lose, and the competition will be free to do as they please.

Like every dictator that ever was, Jobs loves nothing more than control over everything. Take that control away and he'll start panicking.

Where' the 4G?
By dlmartin53 on 3/24/2010 12:23:56 PM , Rating: 2
So just where can you use this 4G marvel on a 4G network?

RE: Where' the 4G?
By Xenoterranos on 3/24/2010 2:19:34 PM , Rating: 2
...Wherever there's a 4g network of course! Basically, if Clear is selling service in your area, you're covered.

RE: Where' the 4G?
By bodar on 3/25/2010 9:58:07 AM , Rating: 2
Sprint still plans to add more WiMAX installations this year with service coming to San Antonio and Austin, Texas later this month. WiMAX will come to Honolulu and Maui as well as Salem, Oregon and Seattle this year. Sprint still plans to launch more WiMAX areas next year as well with Boston, Houston, New York, San Francisco, and Washington D.C. coming online in 2010.

Samsung = lol
By spathotan on 3/23/2010 11:37:04 PM , Rating: 4
amoled screen or not on the Galaxy, that fact that its a Samsung device leaves it at the last street corner. They drop support and phase out their products at the drop of a dime. And being a former owner of 2 Samsung phones and a current owner of a Samsung LCD TV, ill never buy another Samsung product again.

HTC for smartphones. Samsung for target practice.

By TheRequiem on 3/23/10, Rating: 0
By Miff001 on 3/24/2010 3:17:50 AM , Rating: 2
The price, though. The price!

By TheRequiem on 3/24/2010 7:39:46 AM , Rating: 2
When your dealing with high-end stuff, why even talk about price? We wouldn't be fascinated with the latest tech toys if it was about price. I mean, it can't be more then an Iphone or a Droid... or a Nexus One. They've got to be competitive right? That's just my opinion, but I doubt very much there will be much of a premium if any at all, however, I still see lines forming for this release.

physical keyboard
By gofish on 3/28/2010 11:53:55 AM , Rating: 2
I hate physical keyboards. So useless, so 90s, so clunky and big.

Awesome Phone
By Prostyl3 on 3/30/2010 2:43:09 PM , Rating: 2
Its really really cool to see better hardware come out all the time. I can now see why the Android numbers are jumping so high. The amount of Android phones is increasing at such a high rate its really a good time to jump in. I have a Droid that I'm completely happy with and am so happy to know I'll be getting an extremely better phone in the next two years.

Well Verizon
By tspinning on 3/24/2010 8:39:53 AM , Rating: 1
Way to not get the HTC Incredible out in time... big shock... and look this one from Sprint even has GPS!

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