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Moto X looks to be a solid mid range performer

A few details have leaked of an upcoming Motorola smartphone called the Moto X. Among the leaked details are renderings of the smartphone in white and an image of the device in black.
In addition to the new images, Android Police has posted what it claims to be the Moto X running the AnTuTu benchmark. The AnTuTu test shows a total score of 18,753. That overall score breaks down to a score of 2643 for the RAM, 2664 CPU integer, 3163 for CPU float-point, and 7702 for 3D graphics. The dual-core CPU has a frequency of 1728 MHz according to the benchmark results.

This puts the Moto X in the “mid-range” class for smartphones.

The Moto X will carry model number XT 1058 and has a screen resolution of 720 x 1184. The phone is also tipped to have 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB of integrated storage. Other features expected for the phone include NFC technology, a 10.5-megapixel rear camera, and a 2.1-megapixel front camera.
The official launch is expected on August 1. 

Sources: Engadget, EVLeaks

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By SublimeSimplicity on 7/22/2013 10:44:58 AM , Rating: 1
If they did nothing and just waited for SOC prices to slip, they would have arrived here. You would think with Google's guidance this would have had 3gb of RAM. I understand the drive to make a good affordable smartphone, but unless this is around $150 without contract I don't see the point.

By Red Storm on 7/22/2013 11:08:11 AM , Rating: 2
Really, $150 off contract? Good luck with that.

I think it's a pretty nice looking phone. As an owner of an HTC One, I don't think a 1080P screen is a requirement at all. As long as it delivers well on the battery life front they've got a nice phone on their hands.

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 12:04:40 PM , Rating: 2
"Really, $150 off contract? Good luck with that."

LOL. Are old feature phones even that cheap? It would be nice , but not at all realistic. I want a BMW M3 for $10,000 please.

By chrnochime on 7/22/2013 12:26:15 PM , Rating: 1
Most E36 M3s are already that cheap. Most E46 M3s can be found for around 20k, so yes you can find 10k M3s easily these days.

By FITCamaro on 7/22/2013 12:48:22 PM , Rating: 3
Well with one of the worst reliability records in America and the astronomical cost of repairs they don't tend to hold their value very well.

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 12:55:27 PM , Rating: 2
Uh... Did I really need to specify a new BMW M3 for that? You are throwing in a 10+ year old car and making no sense to teh conversation.

The point is a new smartphone with an S4 dual core, Adreno 320, 2GB ram and a 1280x720 4.5 inch screen is worth a LOT more than $150. It was a ridiculous price.

By fleshconsumed on 7/22/2013 1:09:23 PM , Rating: 3
I think OP's point was that the new MotoX is a midrange phone. It has dual core CPU and a mid range resolution screen. LG Optimus L9 went on sale for about $160 recently. MotoX does have slightly better specs, you can argue about faster CPU, and whatnot, but both have dual core CPU with roughly the same screen so I would put both in the same ballpark. $150 for MotoX might be a bit unrealistic but it is still a mid range phone.

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 1:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
"It has dual core CPU and a mid range resolution screen. LG Optimus L9 went on sale for about $160 recently. MotoX does have slightly better specs"

You cant compare the two... The LG Optimus L9 is a true LOW end phone. Yes, it's "dual core", but its and old 1000mhz OMAP with a far lesser GPU and 540 x 960 screen, 1GB ram and 4GB storage. On top of that, it was a sale price not a standard price.

The X has WAY better specs. Its a good mid range phone in 2013.

By Reclaimer77 on 7/22/2013 1:39:26 PM , Rating: 2
But we always knew this was going to be a midrange phone. The OP was a waste of time. And comparing this new phone with old phones you could get? Kind of a stupid suggestion really.

Motorola has probably the best Android experience outside of the Nexus line. They're banking on that experience here beyond stats.

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 1:44:31 PM , Rating: 2
"Motorola has probably the best Android experience outside of the Nexus line"

I am really looking forward to see the Droid Ultra. Its supposed to have a Snapdragon 800, 5 inch 1080p screen, SD slot, Kevlar body and be near stock Android... The Maxx version may be what i wind up getting... Unless a DNA2 is announced soon.

By Reclaimer77 on 7/22/2013 3:48:04 PM , Rating: 2
Ugh I have no idea what my next phone is going to be. I'm leaning toward the Note 3 just because I really want to try a phablet, but I don't even know at this point what the market will look like in just a few months. Plus Samsung got kinda crazy will all the TouchWiz stuff on the GS4, I wouldn't want all of that carried over onto the Note3. We'll have to wait and see.

I'll say this, my temporary Droid Razr has been a pretty kick ass experience so far. I wouldn't think twice about going with Motorola on my next phone. You're right, the Droid Ultra could be where it's at.

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 4:35:52 PM , Rating: 2
Here is what I hope happens... The DNA2 (ButterflyS) comes to Verizon with a snapdragon 800 instead of 600

Its basically a faster DNA 5 inch 1080p Super LCD3 screen, the camera from the One, 2 front facing speakers like the One, Gorrilla Glass3, smaller Bezels than the One. and it addresses the one main lack of the DNA - battery. Its a bit thicker and carries a 3300ma battery.

By FITCamaro on 7/23/2013 10:09:12 AM , Rating: 2
I love my Note 2.

By retrospooty on 7/23/2013 2:31:10 PM , Rating: 2
So much for that thought... The announcement is done and it's not looking good. The Ultra has a Dual core CPU and a 720p screen. Basically, Specwise the Ultra is alot like the Moto X, excepts its a full price $599 phone. WTF? Why would anyone buy it for that price when the X is $299?

Way let down... Bad Motofinger :(

By douchefree on 7/22/2013 3:46:16 PM , Rating: 2
This is not a midrange device.

It sits between the note2 and optimus g pro. The only devices that really outpace it in the cpu arena are the quadcore sgs4 and htc1.
OTOH, its gpu outpaces all other android devices, currently.
So, it looks like they went a little more to the apple side of things with a really powerful gpu, and merely very good cpu.
The camera is the big question mark, however.
It could end up being truly excellent...

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 4:25:42 PM , Rating: 2
Not that Android Police is any sort of informed authority, but from the article you linked " Motorola wants this phone to be affordable, so it doesn't sport high-end flagship specs"

There is that fact and the flagship/high end device from Moto is the Droid Ultra w/Snapdragon 800, 5 inch 1080p screen. The "X" is something of a shift in tactics, trying something new. The specs, and reported "affordable" price tag are designed as mid range.

By Reclaimer77 on 7/22/2013 4:31:34 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe we need a new category? Should this be called an upper mid-ranged device lol?

Hard to believe how fast these things are advancing. A 720p phone is already "mid-ranged" by today's standards when barely a year ago they were blowing our minds heh.

By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 4:54:51 PM , Rating: 3
LOL... It does move fast. Its Amazing to me that not long ago we were looking at Droid3 and cheaply made crap from HTC as the best of Android. Now look at all the high end phones. It's been an insanely fast climb the past 2 years.

By DFranch on 7/22/2013 11:21:09 AM , Rating: 1
Has to be $99 at most.

By Cheesew1z69 on 7/22/2013 11:26:07 AM , Rating: 3
ROFL! 99 dollars...ROFL...

By karimtemple on 7/22/2013 11:50:32 AM , Rating: 1
3GB RAM? Who cares lmao. 3 over 2 would do next to nothing for the phone's performance. That money would be much better spent on battery life and/or an SoC with higher I/O on storage and memory. Oh, or on storage; 2GB+32GB > 3GB+16GB.

By Flunk on 7/22/2013 12:04:29 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly, it looks like every other recent smartphone. Not exactly revolutionary or unusual. Unless it has some unforeseen killer feature I can't see it selling any better than average.

By FITCamaro on 7/22/2013 12:49:15 PM , Rating: 2
Every phone is going to look like every other phone. They're rectangles with or without rounded edges. There's only so much uniqueness that you can do.

By karimtemple on 7/22/2013 1:48:19 PM , Rating: 1
The price.

By GulWestfale on 7/22/2013 9:55:53 AM , Rating: 1
if the specs are real then i don't want this. slow CPU, low screen res; why not get a used galaxy S3 instead? or a new nexus 4? the 2GB RAM are nice, but not enough to win me over. sorry, motorla.

RE: meh
By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 10:07:54 AM , Rating: 2
You have to factor in that this isnt a high end phone. It's an affordable mid range phone and its quite alot faster than the S3, especially on the GPU. I dont want it either, but its a good product and a good idea. Most people dont care about skating the high end.

RE: meh
By Lord 666 on 7/22/2013 11:15:18 AM , Rating: 2
Plus it will be Made in the USA.

RE: meh
By OnyxNite on 7/22/2013 2:23:50 PM , Rating: 3
Well there goes the low price then.

RE: meh
By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 5:37:44 PM , Rating: 2
Here we have it... Same as Nexus 4, $299 no contract.

It's a nice price for it. Think of it this way...
Off Contract prices for 16gb model (taken from Verizon and T-mobile sites).
GS4: $650
Note2: $679
iPhone5: $650
DNA: $600
ONE: $579
XperiaZ: $589

If those phones are appx those prices, the X is a steal at $299.

RE: meh
By Flunk on 7/22/2013 12:05:13 PM , Rating: 2
Used phones are a bad idea. Most phones barely last 2 years as it is.

RE: meh
By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 12:09:49 PM , Rating: 2
That and its a lot better than an S3. The S3 US version has 1.5gz dual core Krait with Adreno 225 GPU... The MotoX is 1.7ghz and an Adreno 320, which is quite significantly faster.

Speaking as an S3 owner, once you get rid of the bloaty Samsung ROM and all the rediculous software they load on it, 1.5ghz dual core is plenty fast. Everything is smooth as silk on Cyanogenmod. The MotoX will be pretty close to stock Android and not suffer Sambloat. It looks like a great mid range phone to me.

RE: meh
By FITCamaro on 7/22/2013 12:52:03 PM , Rating: 2
It has a faster CPU than the US GS3. 1.7GHz according to the article. And roughly the same resolution. Not sure why they went with a non-standard resolution though.

RE: meh
By retrospooty on 7/22/2013 1:37:00 PM , Rating: 2
Some Androids that use the screen for menu buttons report that space spent on the menu differently. I am 99.9% sure its still a 1280x720 screen.

RE: meh
By seamonkey79 on 7/22/2013 2:49:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, I'm assuming they're taking that 1280 and subtracting the nav bar to come up with 1184. That makes the nav bar 96px, which makes sense. The phone itself, it actually looks pretty decent for the segment it's targeted towards. My mom's been looking for a replacement for the Rezound with better battery life. This may do the trick for her, giving her something 'better' that doesnt' cost an arm and a leg like most of our high end phones cost.

Provided that battery life works out, this could be a good bet for Motoogle.

It's $300
By flyingpants1 on 7/23/2013 6:54:31 AM , Rating: 2
It's $300, which makes me sad. I bought an S3 on contract. I can't upgrade through the provider. My only option is to sell the S3 and buy a phone outright. I was so hoping the Nexus 5 would be $299 or even $399 with actually good specs.

It can't be super-cheap because Google is spending half a billion dollars on marketing for this thing.

If it has decent battery life, I'll consider it. The headphones jack on my S3 is going, and the SIM card reader is giving me problems.

This means I'll have this phone at the time Snapdragon 800 is out, and in a few months when the Galaxy S5 comes out, I'll be almost TWO generations behind in hardware. Damn.

RE: It's $300
By FITCamaro on 7/23/2013 10:12:57 AM , Rating: 2
The S4 was just released 3 months ago. What makes you think an S5 is coming out in a few months? Looking online they're saying next spring.

RE: It's $300
By flyingpants1 on 7/23/2013 12:52:42 PM , Rating: 2
I meant a few months after the Moto X release in October.

Red, White, & Blue
By cditty on 7/22/2013 3:57:19 PM , Rating: 3
Did anyone catch the subliminal red, white, & blue wood as the background?

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