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Guidelines aim to give users more storage space

Smartphone users around the world have been complaining that when they pull their new devices out of the box the internal storage is packed with apps they don’t want and didn’t ask for. This bloatware is often irritating, and some of it can’t even be uninstalled.
 
However, new industry guidelines are being published in South Korea that will force smartphone markers to allow users to delete any bloatware installed on their devices.
 
The goal of the measure is to give users more data storage space by deleting unwanted programs that run in the background and consume power. The device makers and carriers will be required to make nearly all pre-installed apps deletable by the end user.
 
Certain sorts of software will be exempt from being removable, such as software for things like Wi-Fi, NFC, and manufacturer-specific app stores.
 
One example given of a device that the new guidelines are targeting is the Galaxy S4. Of the 80 apps that are preinstalled with the smartphone, 25 are installed by the carrier (SK Telecom), 39 by Samsung, and 16 by Google. 

Source: ZDNet



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25 Carrier installed apps?
By piroroadkill on 1/24/2014 10:14:37 AM , Rating: 2
Jesus. 69 by Samsung? No wonder that thing needs fast hardware.




RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/24/2014 11:59:14 AM , Rating: 1
A full list of the apps would be useful. They're probably listing all apps including the phone dialer, text messaging app ect etc.

Samsung offers a highly customized and innovative smartphone experience, so this comes as no surprise.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By tayb on 1/24/2014 1:37:42 PM , Rating: 2
Innovative smartphone experience? They take stock Android, throw on 800 pounds of bloat, and sell it. The only thing special about Samsung phones is the hardware.

The Nexus line of devices is the superior Android experience. Samsung makes their phones worse with their "innovative" bloatware.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/24/2014 2:18:12 PM , Rating: 1
That's your opinion, one the majority of smartphones buyers don't share. I know on Daily Tech people just chalk that up to "marketing", but we both know that's FUD.

People generally like TouchWiz and the features Samsung includes in their phones. It might hurt to admit it, but looking at all the data, it's hard to come to any other conclusion.

What they've done with the Note line is especially innovative, you're just a hater if you can't admit that.

And this is what I so love about the Android ecosystem. Where both the Nexus device AND Samsung's can exist and be an option. It's irrelevant which one is "better" when you aren't forced to choose.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By SilthDraeth on 1/24/2014 3:30:45 PM , Rating: 3
I love touchwiz, and when I use stock android, I feel that it is less intuitive than touchwiz.

I love the dedicated home button, menu and back options as well.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By troysavary on 1/25/2014 9:25:53 AM , Rating: 2
The extras on the Note to support the stylus are great. Probably the most compelling single feature in the entire Android ecosystem. If, for some reason, I had to have an Android device, I would choose the Note 3, simply for the amazing stylus support. But then I'd replace that fugly back with an aftermarket one. ;)

But I haven't seen nearly as much love for Touchwiz on the Galaxy S line. I see hatred for it on almost every tech forum I visit. The standard response seems to be to tell people to go with Cyogenmod.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/25/2014 6:40:55 PM , Rating: 2
Well we on tech forums don't represent the majority very well at times. Nobody sells more phones than Samsung. Yet you visit a tech blog and hear how they're all cheap junk and TouchWiz sucks. /shrug

And Lol on the back cover line. I see what you did there :)


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By GTVic on 1/24/2014 5:15:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Samsung offers a highly customized and innovative smartphone experience, so this comes as no surprise.
Thank you Samsung PR department.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By Reclaimer77 on 1/24/2014 6:02:45 PM , Rating: 1
Right I forgot, anything beyond pure stock Android is bloat and useless gimmicks *rolls eyes*

Samsung innovates, anyone who says otherwise is just being a hater.


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/24/2014 1:13:32 PM , Rating: 2
How you got 69 from 39 is beyond me....


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By amanojaku on 1/24/2014 1:21:39 PM , Rating: 2
The "6" is above the "3", and the finger missed?


RE: 25 Carrier installed apps?
By xiv on 1/24/2014 2:32:45 PM , Rating: 3
he's talking about bloatware. everytime somebody says anything about it they need to bloat up the numbers a bit. =P


US Please follow suit
By cknobman on 1/24/2014 9:47:53 AM , Rating: 5
This is something I back the Koreans on 100% and hope that the US follows suit on.




RE: US Please follow suit
By ipay on 1/24/2014 10:46:09 AM , Rating: 2
I don't care what they do as long as waveya keeps uploading those vids.


RE: US Please follow suit
By Jeffk464 on 1/24/2014 12:02:04 PM , Rating: 2
There are only two options for android, buy nexus devices or root and install custom roms.


RE: US Please follow suit
By Jeffk464 on 1/24/2014 12:03:11 PM , Rating: 1
I got the nexus 5 by the way its a killer phone.


RE: US Please follow suit
By Motoman on 1/24/2014 1:13:27 PM , Rating: 2
Yup.

I was really miffed when I bought my first Android phone only to find that the "unwalled garden" phone OS had such locked down BS.

If you buy a device...any device...you own it, and you should be able to do whatever you want with it. Like uninstalling an app you don't want. It's just not that hard to figure out.


Why only Androids?
By apunari on 1/24/2014 12:14:12 PM , Rating: 2
Oh i forgot, there are neither carrier nor apple bloatwares on iphones.




RE: Why only Androids?
By Jeffk464 on 1/24/2014 1:49:06 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't know.


RE: Why only Androids?
By bug77 on 1/25/2014 7:33:14 AM , Rating: 2
Depends on how you look at iTunes, I guess.


The Real Issue
By Reclaimer77 on 1/24/2014 2:35:08 PM , Rating: 3
In my opinion this is part of the bigger issue. That being, smartphone manufacturers withholding ample internal storage capacities and treating it as a "premium" feature. The memory used is ridiculously inexpensive and usually poor performing, but people have no choice but to shell out up to $150 for a pitiful storage increase. And unless you have a Samsung smartphone, chances are there's no SD slot for expandable storage.

I don't know what it will take to change this paradigm, where people willingly pay as much for 16 gigs of onboard storage upgrade in their phones as an SSD costs for the PC. But I look forward to the day it does change. Because that's the REAL problem here imo.




RE: The Real Issue
By Mint on 1/24/2014 4:38:05 PM , Rating: 2
This is how they get price differentiation, and is no different from Intel/NVidia/AMD disabling parts of the chip.

If higher capacity phones were priced less, then the manufacturers would have to raise the price of base models. Most phone makers (aside from Samsung and Apple) are barely making profit, and they'd be in the red without "premium" markups.


No wonder
By Flunk on 1/24/2014 9:46:16 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung and LG are the worse offenders for this, it's no surprise that their home market would be getting annoyed by it at this point.




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