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Clone your beloved Snookums for a mere $150k

Cloning is a subject of much debate here in the United States, therefore, we don’t hear of the cloning of animals by American scientists much. However, the process of cloning animals is done in other countries.

A Korean company called RNL Bio is working with the scientists who cloned the first canine named Snuppy.  The company is offering to clone deceased pets for the tidy sum of $150,000. A company spokeswoman says that the first customer, Bernann McKunney from California, has already signed up to have her dead pit bull cloned.

McKunney says she is particularly attached to the dead animal because it saved her life during an attack by another animal. RNL Bio says that ear tissue from the dog was preserved at a U.S. biotech lab before the animal’s death and that there is about a 25% chance of being able to clone a new animal from this tissue.

The actual cloning of the animal will be done by Seoul National University and led by veterinary professor Dr. Lee Byeong-chun.

Lee worked with the disgraced Hwang Woo-suk who was found to have falsified his research. Lee was in court many times alongside Hwang for allegations of misappropriating funds and was suspended for three months during the stem cell scandal.



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I would!
By sgtdisturbed47 on 2/15/2008 5:07:10 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously, I want to pay $150k for a 500 dollar cat...




RE: I would!
By Xerio on 2/15/2008 5:34:00 PM , Rating: 2
You have a $500 cat?!?!?


RE: I would!
By docbill on 2/15/2008 6:06:31 PM , Rating: 2
Any cat you get fixed and declawed is a $500 cat. However, I bet the cloning doesn't cover fixing and declawing.


RE: I would!
By HrilL on 2/15/2008 9:33:57 PM , Rating: 4
What kind of sick person are you to declaw your cat. I have 2 cats with claws and I'm sure they are a lot happier then yours. yours can't even clime a damn tree...


RE: I would!
By JoshuaBuss on 2/16/2008 1:07:35 AM , Rating: 1
that doesn't matter much when they just lay around the house all day anyway :)

besides, my cat isn't very happy she has claws if she uses them on the couch ;)


RE: I would!
By StevoLincolnite on 2/16/2008 12:49:29 PM , Rating: 2
I got my cat De-sexed for nothing, but I couldn't ever bring myself to "De-clawing" it - It's both an Inside and Outside cat, But it has never "Clawed" the furniture, Placing thick clear plastic over the furniture where the cat claws, deters them, eventually they won't do it all, thus removing the plastic later on and all is good, It also didn't cost me anything!


RE: I would!
By dever on 2/16/08, Rating: 0
RE: I would!
By SilthDraeth on 2/16/2008 6:07:33 PM , Rating: 2
WoW, so many things "Can" kill your unborn child, and you read on the internet, or heard some internet story where it did happen, and all of a sudden you think that it is a common thing...

Wow!


RE: I would!
By murphyslabrat on 2/18/2008 2:24:23 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, you're pretty safe if you live outside of California.


RE: I would!
By StevoLincolnite on 2/16/2008 6:43:28 PM , Rating: 4
Don't jump to conclusions it was done by a vet, My cat had a Grass seed stuck in it's eye which had to be removed, and thus the vet de-sexed my cat for nothing, while he was at it.
So instead of calling me a "Sicko and grab a rubber mallet" hows about you keep such things to yourself? The only person looking like a fool is you.


RE: I would!
By wordsworm on 2/17/2008 7:18:02 AM , Rating: 2
The trick to this is teaching your kids not to eat cat poop.


RE: I would!
By DerwenArtos12 on 2/17/2008 10:28:26 AM , Rating: 4
no, he said his unborn child, apparently the wife needs to learn not to eat cat poop.


RE: I would!
By Zirconium on 2/17/2008 11:20:33 AM , Rating: 2
He and his wife must have so much in common.


RE: I would!
By StevoLincolnite on 2/17/2008 11:33:20 AM , Rating: 2
Apparently even the smell is toxic to un-born children, But then again so is everything else like peanuts.


RE: I would!
By wordsworm on 2/17/2008 8:58:24 PM , Rating: 2
Ironically, cats are vital to keeping the rodent population down. Rats and mice are far more dangerous to public health than cats. In fact, with this in mind, you could be so bold as to say that cats are a vital part of public health rather than a threat to it.


RE: I would!
By HrilL on 2/21/2008 3:23:42 PM , Rating: 2
My cats are both indoor cats as well but they do have a big tall cat tree thing we made and thus need there claws to climb it. And they did scratch the furniture once or twice when we first got them but cats are smart animals and we told them bad cat and they haven't done it since.


RE: I would!
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 2/16/2008 1:26:58 PM , Rating: 3
Usually it's just the front claws that are declawed -- at least that's how I always understood it. And the cats can climb fine with the back claws.

Still, I wouldn't declaw my cat either.


RE: I would!
By rykerabel on 2/19/2008 10:12:16 AM , Rating: 2
Still, declawing is actually an amputation of the last joint of your cat's "toes".

I'd be really upset if someone removed the last knuckle on all my fingers and toes.

Here is a pro-declawing web page, http://www.geocities.com/declawing
and as you read for yourself... "the last digit falls away from the paw using a scalpel (called disarticulation method)."

no matter how sweetly you put it, or how painless it is, its still cutting off the last freaking joint of there toes.


RE: I would!
By UppityMatt on 2/17/08, Rating: -1
RE: I would!
By JS on 2/17/2008 6:25:21 PM , Rating: 2
Shouldn't that be "can't" and "English"?


RE: I would!
By NinjaJedi on 2/18/2008 1:43:12 PM , Rating: 2
In the US it is considered animal cruelty if you let your declawed cat outside or live with cats that have claws. The cat cannot effectively defend themselves against other cats/animals without them.

I have 2 indoor cats and both are declawed. I'm glad one is because she is a pain and I would have needed stitches many times if she had claws. The other cat was already declawed before I took her in and if it was not for me she would have had to go to the pound and might not be alive today.


RE: I would!
By murphyslabrat on 2/18/2008 2:30:26 PM , Rating: 2
Obviously, you haven't met my friend's cat. He is declawed, but rules a house full of clawwed kitties. Apparently, he has teeth too.


RE: I would!
By NinjaJedi on 2/18/2008 6:37:21 PM , Rating: 2
By "kitties" to do mean kittens? Cause in most cases kittens will submit to an older cat and the older cat will not mean to really inflict harm to get them to submit.


RE: I would!
By harsaphes on 2/17/2008 7:33:25 AM , Rating: 2
I wish my cat was only 500 dollars..she set me back 1600 :)


RE: I would!
By ImSpartacus on 2/15/2008 7:35:15 PM , Rating: 1
Well some people like a certain animal. You do understand that the product is an identical twin of the original animal, not a different animal of the same breed or something like that.


RE: I would!
By mindless1 on 2/16/2008 1:40:37 AM , Rating: 5
Even identical twins may end up looking a bit different and it says nothing of the personality of the animal. IF we as a species decide to allow cloning, ok, but suggesting that those who lost a pet should have this service is a disservice.

Mourn the dead then move on, get a pet from a shelter instead of it being euthanized.


RE: I would!
By Polynikes on 2/16/2008 12:56:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Mourn the dead then move on, get a pet from a shelter instead of it being euthanized.

I agree, there are entirely too many animals that are strays or in shelters.


Hey..
By Shawn5961 on 2/15/2008 4:44:15 PM , Rating: 2
Wasn't there a movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger about this?




RE: Hey..
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 2/15/2008 4:48:10 PM , Rating: 2
The first references to pet cloning (for fun and profit) that I'm aware of came from Philip K Dick in the same collection of stories that would eventually become "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" -- made famous by the film adaptation "Blade Runner."


RE: Hey..
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 2/15/2008 4:51:23 PM , Rating: 2
I meant to mention somewhere that was circa 1968


RE: Hey..
By eye smite on 2/15/2008 7:46:57 PM , Rating: 5
Here's a perfect example of too much money and absolutely no common sense. The Cali woman that is.


RE: Hey..
By borismkv on 2/15/2008 8:43:24 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah. A very large percentage of the state of California fits that description pretty well, I think.


RE: Hey..
By christojojo on 2/15/2008 10:27:02 PM , Rating: 2
There are allot of places with little common sense. We can think of several celebrities that would fork the money over. How about that cat lady from NYC, she'd probably do it. Probably, the late Tammy Fae (Mid West?) would have too. (Of course that's conjecture; but unfortunately excess money tends to follow fads better than it follows world hunger.)


RE: Hey..
By murphyslabrat on 2/18/2008 2:28:33 PM , Rating: 2
Communists for common sense...and common everything else.


RE: Hey..
By christojojo on 2/18/2008 10:40:15 PM , Rating: 2
Communism? Where did I say that? I said solve world hunger... aka more job opportunities and cheaper food production, nothing about communism.


RE: Hey..
By Topweasel on 2/15/2008 4:49:31 PM , Rating: 2
Re-Pet. If you look at the picture its actually from the movie in question. Now they just need the brain scan backups.


RE: Hey..
By BrownJohn on 2/15/2008 4:51:18 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, kind of. A better movie on the subject was Pet Cemetery. That movie was about bringing a pet back from the dead, rather than cloning, but its still the same general idea. It was a good book, too if you like Stephen King.

The pets this company creates are going to come out evil!


Yeah right...
By Xodus Maximus on 2/15/2008 4:49:43 PM , Rating: 4
A trip to the pound and some spray paint, and I can "clone" one too. Its not like there are alot of labs prepared to verify the dna of animals to make sure that they are in fact cloned. Sounds like a sucker's bet to me.

Oh, and did anyone else first read the headline as "Korean film will clone your pet", either my eyes are tired or you guys need a better font, either way I laughed at myself.




RE: Yeah right...
By allies on 2/15/2008 8:55:01 PM , Rating: 1
A sucker's bet? Just thought that I'd point out that Seoul National University is a VERY well renowned school... I doubt they're going to be ripping people off $150,000.


RE: Yeah right...
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 2/16/2008 1:28:03 PM , Rating: 3
On the other hand, they did harbor a professor that faked human cloning ... hmmm


RE: Yeah right...
By daar on 2/17/2008 10:52:22 PM , Rating: 2
To be fair, that professor could still have made a possibly bigger and more useful (unwittingly as it may) find than human cloning, if the method can be repeated successfully:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwang_Woo-Suk#Parthen...

And on that same vein, it's not like any of our renown institutions are free from hiring errors;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/03/31/harvard_pr...


YAY
By omnicronx on 2/15/2008 4:55:01 PM , Rating: 3
YES!!! SNUGGLES WILL LIVE FOREVER!!!!




RE: YAY
By Omega215D on 2/15/2008 5:39:05 PM , Rating: 5
Come Mr. Biggelsworth!


RE: YAY
By Gul Westfale on 2/15/2008 11:48:00 PM , Rating: 1
OH NO ANOTHER DOG KILLED ITSELF!


If I had the money...
By wordsworm on 2/15/2008 11:33:37 PM , Rating: 3
I'd clone myself but also modify the genes to get 20/20, then get a brain transplant into the new body.




RE: If I had the money...
By BruceLeet on 2/16/2008 5:48:17 PM , Rating: 2
Whyy, Are you unhappy with yourself? (body)


RE: If I had the money...
By wordsworm on 2/17/2008 12:09:53 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I have to wear glasses, hence the '20/20' comment. Furthermore, it's getting older. So, in about 20 years (when I'm 50), I would gladly pay $150,000 for a new body.


RE: If I had the money...
By kzrssk on 2/19/2008 4:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
But then your body would be 0 years old while your brain would be 50 years old. By the time your body were 20, your brain would be 70 and you'd possibly be getting Alzheimer's or some other degenerative disease.

Also an adult brain wouldn't fit into a baby's skull.


I wonder...
By i3arracuda on 2/15/2008 4:58:16 PM , Rating: 6
...if they will have a group rate for goldfish?




RE: I wonder...
By xsilver on 2/17/2008 9:15:07 AM , Rating: 1
or more importantly, what about my pet rock or chia pet? Will they now be able to live forever?


memories?
By HighWing on 2/15/2008 7:48:25 PM , Rating: 5
So I wonder how long it will take people to realize that cloning your dead pet isn't what they might think it is. Because unless I missed some major scientific breakthrough, when you clone a living object, it will not get the memories of the cloned object. Your only getting the looks, and any genetic traits. I'm sure a lot of people are going to clone their pet and then wonder why he/she is not potty trained and does not know their name and what ever other things they had trained their previous pet to do.




RE: memories?
By DigitalFreak on 2/16/2008 11:25:37 AM , Rating: 2
BINGO!


Or...
By Spivonious on 2/15/2008 7:14:41 PM , Rating: 6
Go to the pound and adopt one of the hundreds of thousands of pets given up or abandoned by their owners.




Ear Tissue?
By Jynx980 on 2/16/2008 6:29:41 AM , Rating: 4
This woman planned ahead(which is odd in and of itself) by having the tissue frozen/stored. However 25% seems like a low figure. Is 25% the normal rate, regardless of how the sample was stored? If all you need is DNA couldn't that be obtained from pet hair instead of removing a part of your beloved pet?

Eventually this will become commonplace and much more affordable. The pet industry is a juggernaut and the potential to cash in on pet cloning is overwhelming.

The moral issues will always be there as well. Children usually learn about death starting with a pet. If you can just keep bringing something back, their view of death will be skewed. Why couldn't the same thing be done with Grandma?

The whole thing is a bit shady. $150k for a 25% chance and Dr. Lee Byeong-chun's association and suspension involving Hwang Woo-suk. Customs could be a problem; cloned pet tax? And travel? Do they offer international pet travel on aircraft?

Just go down to the pound and give a pet a chance at a good life instead of being euthanized.




RE: Ear Tissue?
By tmouse on 2/18/2008 12:10:11 PM , Rating: 1
While most will not read this (since its late in the reply) you cannot use hair as hair does not have any DNA. Follicular tags do but cloning is VERY (VERY X 100) inefficient. Your HAVE to have a living cell to extract the nucleus (note not just DNA). My best guess the 25% number is pulled from their a@@, maybe 25% of finding a living cell in a frozen ear. They will use literally 100's of eggs. Actually I feel this is practically fraud, playing on the emotional weaknesses of pet owners. Simply put as others have stated you are NEVER going to get you pet back. Scientifically you are getting a little less than an identical twin (a identical twin is going to be closer unless they use eggs from the mother or a sister; think mitochondrial DNA). The animal will also suffer from abnormalities like organomegally which ALL clones suffer with varying degrees (probably due to genomic imprinting but the exact cause is still not understood). I wonder what the owners would think about the fates of the other imperfect or unwanted clonal results produced from these experiments. As other have stated get a new pet there are plenty that have real need, or freeze the eggs or sperm and have an offspring produced if you need continuity as some form of tribute. I think cloning could have some uses and could help answer real scientifically valid questions but this whoring of the technology does not help anyone.


Hmmmm....
By SlipDizzy on 2/15/2008 5:16:33 PM , Rating: 2
I have a dead pet T-Rex somewhere around here. 150k? Sounds like a deal to me.




RE: Hmmmm....
By tdktank59 on 2/15/2008 6:40:15 PM , Rating: 2
hmmm i think i placed that test tube around here somewhere...

or maybe we should just find a amber sample with a extinct string of mosquito and see if it has any t-rex dna in it!

or we should bring back some woolly mammoths and see which is tougher (Mammoth vs Elephant)


arnold movie
By shraz on 2/15/2008 5:22:37 PM , Rating: 2
The 6th Day




RE: arnold movie
By Senju on 2/15/2008 6:56:13 PM , Rating: 2
Cool!
By MrHanson on 2/16/2008 6:43:03 PM , Rating: 2
I had a dog I loved so much and his name was Pete. What should I call my new cloned friend. Repeat?




Lol
By ArashiHero on 2/16/2008 10:50:22 PM , Rating: 2
Why are we going from animal duplicates to de-sexing and de-clawing??




By Belard on 2/17/2008 6:17:59 AM , Rating: 2
$150,000 for a dog? Its not the same dog... it'll look like her old dog, but that is it. It doesn't have the same experinces and doesn't mean it'll have the same personality.

There are people and such that have problems... and to spend so much money for a pit-bull?

Get another one... or a better looking dog, or high a body guard.




forget dogs and cats
By kevinkreiser on 2/18/2008 3:59:14 PM , Rating: 2
what we need to do is take a piece of einstein's preserved brain (if there is a piece left that isn't too far degraded) and clone him. we can start cloning all the dead geniuses so that once they are old enough we can ask them how to fix all of our problems. and if it doesn't work, then at least we'll know that more than genetics are involved in intellegence :o)




$150k? Pfffff
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/15/2008 4:56:12 PM , Rating: 1
$150k is a rip. Just take your dead cat/dog to the Pet Semetery, dig a grave and wait a bit.

Fluffy or Fido will come back to life in no time. Sure, he or she may smell a bit rank and have quite the temper, but it's cheaper than 150 friggin' thousand dollars.




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