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PlayStation 3 soon to get video download service

In a recent interview with 1UP, Sony’s Phil Harrison revealed plans to expand the PlayStation 3’s functionality to include “not just games but movies, music, HD, standard definition TV,” as part of a 10-year plan for Sony’s latest console.

Last November, Microsoft launched its own video download service, called Xbox Live Video Marketplace, which allows Xbox 360 Premium owners to purchase and download movies and TV shows. Analysts are predicting great success for Microsoft’s new service, estimating that it could generate $92 million in 2007 and as much as $762 million by 2011.

Sony has long touted since the PlayStation 2 that its gaming machines are actually multi-purpose multimedia centers. With the inclusion of a hard drive in every PS3, Sony looks better set than ever to fulfill its promise.

“Well we made a very conscious decision in putting a hard drive in every machine and a minimum of 20GB, 60GB and who knows in the future, maybe that will rise -- you know, that tends to be a trend,” said Harrison, adding that he sees the long term benefits of the hard drive. “The ten year plan of allowing people to download all kinds of digital content to their PlayStation 3 -- not just games but movies, music, HD, standard definition TV, you name it. And that was a significant investment, but it was absolutely the right thing to do.”

In response to a question if the PlayStation Network could soon see something comparable to Microsoft’s video service, Harrison said that official announcements weren’t yet ready, but did offer, “We have a hard drive, we have a commerce engine, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out we will have that on the network very shortly.”

Harrison also responds to reports from earlier this month stating that PlayStation 3 price cuts may arrive as soon as sometime this year. “Well, do you know what [Sony Senior VP Takao Yuhara] said was, cost reduction, not price drop, and there's a big difference between cost reduction and price drop. So, that I believe is where the confusion came from,” Harrison explained. “Obviously, we are investing our money in making PlayStation 3s cheaper to manufacture -- that's part of our business plan.”

Analysts estimate that Sony loses as much as $301 on every PlayStation 3 sold, so any costs reductions realized will be to help soften the blow on the console maker’s bottom line. Harrison knows that price cuts are a part of every console strategy, but it appears that Sony will make adjustments only when it makes sense. “When we can, when there are savings to pass along to the consumer, we would obviously choose to do that. That's the business model,” Harrison said.



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Hmm
By medavid16 on 2/17/2007 5:40:07 PM , Rating: 2
Don't get me wrong, I've always been a PS3 fan even before there were talks of PS3. Then the product was in sight and I liked what I saw, the Blu-Ray, the free online, etc. I had all my money saved up ready to buy a PS3, but couldn't find one... which is fine, I was waiting for the right time...

But recently, if you read around the internet, there's some talks behind closed doors of developers slowly dropping "strong" support for the PS3. How that would translate into long term survival of PS3, I don't know... but the thought of developers dropping support is scary. I'm going to hold out even longer now... just to wait and see.




RE: Hmm
By daftrok on 2/17/2007 7:09:51 PM , Rating: 3
I'm just waiting for the price to drop. I wanna play Lair, Resistance, Motorstorm, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, and all the multi-platform games all in on package. Its just the god damn price (>.<)


RE: Hmm
By SunAngel on 2/17/07, Rating: -1
RE: Hmm
By gramboh on 2/18/2007 2:34:02 PM , Rating: 5
Going into debt to buy luxury technology goods like a TV which depreciate in value extremely quickly is probably the stupidiest move you could ever make financially. Save, invest and wait until you can afford to buy something like a TV without making a dent in your savings.


RE: Hmm
By r0y on 2/18/2007 2:48:38 PM , Rating: 2
True, that would be the logical thing to do. And that would also be the advice that most people give.

However you only live once...and for a very short time.


RE: Hmm
By SunAngel on 2/18/07, Rating: -1
RE: Hmm
By gramboh on 2/18/2007 4:11:46 PM , Rating: 3
No, if the two of you make rational decisions around your finances you can understand the appropriate level of spending on luxury goods via a budget taking into account the need to save/invset for the future. Or you could be like so many stupid people in North America and leverage yourself into huge debt and never be able to retire (e.g. people leasing BMW's when they don't even make $100k/year, students racking up huge debt to buy expensive computer hardware).


RE: Hmm
By tuteja1986 on 2/17/2007 11:36:13 PM , Rating: 1
I like the PS3 as a console but i ain't ready to spend $600 just yet. I am waiting for one supper awesome game to come out like devil may cry 4 before i spend $600. If Sony had something like Zelda type caliber title at launch like Nintendo had with its Wii launch then they would have done a lot better than they did.


RE: Hmm
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 12:43:41 AM , Rating: 2
Waiting for the price to drop ?

Its going to be a long time Im afraid.. and by then it'll be a drop to attract desperation sales.

I'm going to be happy to play PS3's former exclusive Assasins Creed on Xbox 360 and the new MMO from Suare Enix that will be on 360 ( and considering PS3 - their own words ).. All from a company that was firmly in Sony's pocket for a decade.. Funny how slow console sales and money quickly changes things !


RE: Hmm
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 12:47:14 AM , Rating: 2
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12740/SquareEnix-Wor...

In an interview with Pro-G, Hiromichi Tanaka has confirmed that Square-Enix is working on a next-generation massively multiplayer online role-playing game for the Xbox 360 and Windows Vista. Tanaka is the Senior Vice President of Software Development at Square Enix and he was the lead developer of Final Fantasy XI . He's currently working on the Nintendo DS version of Final Fantasy III.

"I'm still working on XI as it's on-going" Tanaka told Pro-G. "We are also working on a next-generation MMORPG for 360 and Vista but PS3 is a possibility."


RE: Hmm
By livelouddiefast on 2/17/2007 8:20:37 PM , Rating: 1
i'd say give it a year or two until blu ray discs and drives are cheaper to manufacture. Til then ps2/xbox/n64 FTW

But personally i'd be wary of developing for any company that spewed as much crazy talk out their ass as sony. Quality of products aside they make little sense in many of their public statements...


RE: Hmm
By crystal clear on 2/18/2007 1:03:07 AM , Rating: 1
"I had all my money saved up ready to buy a PS3, but couldn't find one... "

Go buy one & make a cool 1200 bucks-then buy one more plus all the games you want.
(see below)
Sony's Tretton: "If You Can Find a PS3... I'll Give You 1,200 Bucks For it"

February 10, 2007, 4:36 PM

When this interview was conducted in early January, there were still plenty of PS3's to be found on store shelves. EGM even acknowledges this and tells Tretton that of the 18 stores they called before the interview, half of them had PS3s in stock.

Daily tech................


RE: Hmm
By afkrotch on 2/18/2007 12:53:14 PM , Rating: 3
Here's something for you. If you read the internet, you'll find out that the PS3 has already outsold the Xbox360 in Japan. A console that has been sitting on the market for over a year.

Most developers are Japanese companies. Now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where I'm going with this.


RE: Hmm
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 1:47:03 PM , Rating: 1
You'll also read the PS3 is outselling PS3 now.. and the Wii outselling both of them..

So in one place in the world.. Japan.. PS3 is selling ok.. and better then Xbox 360.. Yes, 360 has only sold about 250K units there.. and only says about 10k units of 360 a month..

but so what ? The rest of the world is what matters. PS3 sales are last place.. slow.. 360 has sold 11 million units in one year.. Not shipped units.. SOLD UNITS. In Australia 360 broke sales records.. its popular in South America, Europe and North America.


RE: Hmm
By tarv on 2/19/2007 11:30:18 AM , Rating: 2
Right now the current trend is the Wii is clobbering both the 360 and the PS3. It is outselling the 360 by a 3 to 1 ratio and the PS3 by a 5 to 1 ratio over the last month. Check nexgenwars.com for sales data to see the daily/weekly/monthly trends for yourself. A Nintendo Exec has already come out and said that its not inconceivable for the Wii to pass the 360 within 12 months and that clearly the 360 has lost momentum.


RE: Hmm
By ViperROhb34 on 2/19/2007 10:01:47 PM , Rating: 2
The wii could be close to 360 in one year.. but 360 sold 30% of its units in the last 4 months.. So sales for the 360 havent slowed as you say .. 360 could easily be at 20 million in one year.. which is very respectable. ( 11 million in one year is respectable for a 300-400 console )

The difference is Wii is cheaper console.. it can be fun.. but 360 will lead the Next Generation Consoles. The best graphical games are all being ported to 360.. with Devs even changing side and leaving the Sony camp.


RE: Hmm
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 1:55:20 PM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah..in in Japan PS3 is about 80 dollars cheaper.. then USA and Europeans will have to pay about 200 dollars more then Americans.. so Europeans are scoffing at this.

The PS3 60gig price came to about 846 US Dollars..


He also owe me money....
By javiergf on 2/17/2007 3:59:04 PM , Rating: 2
In reference to the article, and I think everybody can agree on that. Xbox live service is a thousand light year more advanced today to what sony has. Not only online multiplayer is much better, the achievement system is better, it is also starting to look more and more like itunes everyday. May Sony came up with something like this someday? Yeah, but it is not going to happen in 2007, that's for sure.




RE: He also owe me money....
By AlexWade on 2/17/07, Rating: -1
RE: He also owe me money....
By Darthefe on 2/18/2007 3:06:46 AM , Rating: 1
Playstation 3 not i-pod first of all the playstaion store is better than XBL because they got way more o stock trailars, ps2 games, ps1 games and more is still coming eg. movies are going to be sold tv shows and also retro console games like Sega genesis the XBL dosnt have that and who says that the i-pod sucks i have got an 80 gig i-pod video which plays moveis also same as other players and it works perfectly. The ps3 is also very consumer freindly its simple not like the dashboard menu


RE: He also owe me money....
By walk2k on 2/17/07, Rating: 0
RE: He also owe me money....
By SunAngel on 2/17/07, Rating: 0
RE: He also owe me money....
By stmok on 2/17/2007 7:30:40 PM , Rating: 3
EXACTLY!

It is so easy to manipulate the world these days. The planet IS filled with gulliable people. Its a fact. By the time they figure out what's really going on, its too late, and you've made your BILLIONS! :D (The beauty of marketing!)

Seriously though, you shouldn't comment about anything if you haven't tried it yourself, and experience what it has to offer.

There's nothing more idiotic than folks spreading BS they know nothing about. (Merely echoing what others have said).

Everyone is different. What you may like about something, doesn't mean they will like it as well. Make up YOUR OWN mind.


RE: He also owe me money....
By walk2k on 2/18/2007 12:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
Aaand, predicitibly, the xbots vote you down if you say anything even remotely non-FUD about the PS.

Seriously get a life people.


RE: He also owe me money....
By SunAngel on 2/18/07, Rating: 0
RE: He also owe me money....
By encryptkeeper on 2/19/2007 9:52:05 AM , Rating: 2
Jesus man, if you don't like Daily Tech, then don't post here. Seriously, how many blogs are out there giving praise to the PS3 right now? I can't find any. True, I don't look too hard, but when I go to places like www.gamespot.com (very pro-sony website) and see blogs and news bash Sony it's kind of a no brainer that the PS3 just isn't giving people what they thought it would. In the top of this blog, someone mentioned about developers slowly leaving Sony for greener pastures. It's probably true, look at Square Enix throwing support toward Nintendo for example. Even Hideo Kojima is pissed about the Sixaxis not having the rumble ability.


RE: He also owe me money....
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 12:39:36 AM , Rating: 2
There arent enough online PS3 games to make any comparison. But most games on PS3 are ports from Xbox and they dont play any differently online.

Ever played Halo ONLINE 16 or more players ? Guess what .. its been around since PS2 !

Sony's just playing catch up..


RE: He also owe me money....
By walk2k on 2/18/2007 12:56:52 PM , Rating: 2
Well they are catching up pretty quickly then because Resistance: Fall of Man runs great with 40 players.

Also, free.


RE: He also owe me money....
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 1:44:22 PM , Rating: 2
You think because One game ( which is there BEST selling game, but hit NUMBER 40 at its peak in sales ) plays 40 people .. that they are catching up fast ?

Thats the capability of the game - not Sony or Xbox Live's network. Sony people have no clue what they've been missing since Bungie put 16 player mode in Halo 7yrs ago !

Lets look at something.. if Sony every sells enough PS3 to get out of 3rd place ( which is not likely since PS2 recently overtook PS3 in sales - in Japan, mind you - where PS3 is selling its best ) and Sony's online Network ever gets taxed HALF as heavily as Xbox Live maybe we can start saying they aren't doing bad.

But Im hearing there are Devs not putting ONLINE into their games for PS3 as much as Sony would like .. One new game coming to BOTH consoles will have the Xbox 360 version with online play.. the PS3 will not have online play !!

Why ? I think Sony doesnt charge for online because they pass that price onto Developers who pay to have their game online with Sony.. MS is much smarter.. they charge a MERE 50 dollars a year !! ..Hello.. thats just over 4 dollars a month..

If you're using that a Sonys' last triumphant horn of brialliance that they are Free online and Live you must pay 4-5 dollars a month.. I guess you hae no reason even buying a console because you really can't afford one ! Or your mommy and daddy pay your bills..



RE: He also owe me money....
By BioRebel on 2/18/2007 10:28:07 AM , Rating: 2
I have tried Sony's online network, as have game reviewers. And they all agree, Sony's online system doesnt hold a candle to XBL. For %50 a year its worth it.


RE: He also owe me money....
By ViperROhb34 on 2/18/2007 1:53:27 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I just posted thats just over 4 dollars a month..
thats for Gold..

..and Right now Sonys network has virtually no traffic ( thousands ) compared to Xbox Live ( millions ) so it has no excuse at all for not working well.

Plus the fact there is speculation Sony passes the cost of online gaming onto developers.. which will mean online gaming might be more rare .. Theres already one new game coming out that has online play for 360.. but the PS3 version they decided to not do online.. - instead they substituted ( A Public relations thing ) by saying "We put Sixaxis function it instead ! "

WOW>> LOL



RE: He also owe me money....
By fijillian on 2/18/2007 4:32:26 PM , Rating: 2
I own both the ps3 & x360 & I have to say the xbl network is much more polished then the sony network. I was always a ps fan but am very disappointed right now with the ps3. Apart from the cheap blueray which i get to enjoy watching on my HUGE hd tv, there are not really any games out there worth playing (right now). Plus achievements are so addictive for the x360.


Interested?
By porkster on 2/18/2007 9:22:50 AM , Rating: 2
Is anyone really interested in movie downloads? There isn't too many good new films out and having to pay a high price for the film and the bandwidth makes it little of value.

Zero Value to me.




RE: Interested?
By SunAngel on 2/18/2007 9:47:40 AM , Rating: 1
Nearly everyone is interested in movie downloads. There is only two problems for the consumer to overcome: drm and fair pricing (<$1.50US/download to own). I think if download to rent was $.50US more money would be made at that price point. But that is just a dream because of other factors: bandwidth costs, hollywood royalties, website creation/maintenance, employee salaries, executive bonuses, etc.


RE: Interested?
By 9nails on 2/19/2007 1:27:06 AM , Rating: 2
My Cable service offers an "On-Demand" video rental service. I look up movies, I click "but it now" and I start watching. It has pause, rewind, and I can play it over and over up to a certain cut-off time limit.

I can imagine that on-demand HD content is the evolution of this service. And I would be far happier to rent Talladega Nights at a fraction of the cost than I would to own it at the premium of BR disc price.

With the high costs of theaters, and quick release to DVD, renting movies at home is the way to go.


RE: Interested?
By anonymo on 2/19/2007 9:07:04 AM , Rating: 2
I have to agree. My cable service offers streaming movies in HD on demand. Why would I want to pay (MS or Sony) for a film that I have to wait to download? I'd much rather buy the hardcopy if I were to buy it than pay nearly the same price for a digital version that I more than likely cannot copy to disc.

I'm a 360 owner. I just recently purchased a PS2 for the first time (I love RPGs) as I couldn't rationalize buying a PS3 for HD gaming now or within the next year. Furthermore, if I were to buy a PS3 I would feel embarrassed by all the things Sony says about it and the gaming industry on a daily basis. If you're into technology and have dealt with Sony for the last 20 years than you more than likely have no interest in the PS3 at this stage in the game.


RE: Interested?
By SunAngel on 2/19/07, Rating: 0
Two Things
By VIAN on 2/18/2007 2:32:37 AM , Rating: 2
First, I love how Sony is trying to push the industry to releasing consoles every ten years. It's just not good for consumers. In only five years current console technology will be behind. In ten years, the market could change drastically, and current consoles may not be able to accommodate. It's better for the consumer if they release cheaper consoles every five years. We didn't ask for a "super computer" this gen.

Ten years between technology enhancements could also turn some gamers away who love not just games, but the heated competition and mystery of new console releases. It's fun.


Second, Sony is kissing it's own ass about including HDD in every PS3. But think of this, how much digital content could a 20GB HDD hold. Yes, you can upgrade, but how much HD content can you fit on even new notebook drives (and the extra cost associated with buying larger drives). The lack of large notebook drives coupled with the fact that you can't connect multiple drives to the PS3 really leaves a lot to be desired.

However, this does depend on how the service is implemented. Hopefully, they'll keep a track of who purchased what so that you don't have to keep buying the product if you lose it.

At the moment Sony is still better off than MS, but my suggestion to both of them is to allow external HDD to be connected via USB. They are cheaper and can come in very large sizes. Sony is already in a good position to do that, but MS is a little more greedy than that. I bet MS is trying to figure out a way to F us over with newer HDD.




RE: Two Things
By cduran on 2/18/2007 11:01:07 AM , Rating: 2
Um......you need to do a little more research, or even better buy yourself a PS3. The PS3 DOES support external USB drives. I have a 160GB one on it right now.


RE: Two Things
By VIAN on 2/18/2007 12:53:04 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I don't own a PS3. But I haven't heard of this before. If this is true, then Sony has this covered. I'm impressed.


there better be a way to backup the downloads
By shimman on 2/17/2007 4:36:30 PM , Rating: 2
one of the problems with the drm is the portability; the contents are usually locked into one device that once the device is dead; you will also loose all the investments. they should let us transfer the licensed contents for free to other equipments & we should be able to watch it other than ps3

if history can be an indication, ps3 will suffer from a high failure rate of optical drive unit as ps/ps2/psp are currently suffering. in that case, will i loose not only the over priced ps3 but also the contents i downloaded?

if they keep on !@#$ing us with device locked contents, i will definitely ditch all the consoles & go for pc games or even to public domain books

btw, i also found tons of ps3 at local eb games & walmart, target & game stop. will sony pay for me 1200usd for each one i found?....guess not & it really shows the integrity & the culture of sony




By SunAngel on 2/17/2007 5:38:55 PM , Rating: 2
you can best be certain the rights on Sony's DRM will allow conversion to the PSP. after that there is no guarantee. but if history is any guide, the only computers that will be allowed to access the PS3's downloads will be VAIO computers. which by me is fine. i enjoy Sony's technology and having bought at least one product in each of their categories, i feel safe that i will have interoperatiblity around the house and on the go. yet, there is one problem. sony is sure to charge out the ass for video downloads. but like i said if they allow conversions to their other products, my bitching will be at a minimum.


Next Gen Prices
By Adsski on 2/19/2007 4:09:30 AM , Rating: 3
Speaking as a gamer from the UK the choice over which next gen is pretty much a no brainer at the moment... Wii.

My reasons for this are as follows.
Gameplay is really fun and the graphics look pretty good
Most people in the UK still have SDTV's so not having HD isn't that much of a problem.

But mostly COST!!!

Its £179.99 or $350 here in rip off UK, we always pay more!

Now consider this, a PS3 with one game and an extra controller will set you back £500, $975 on a bundle offer from UK stores.
If your child wants this, you can offer as an alternative the Wii, Wii Play, Extra nunchuck, Red Steel, Zelda, Excite Truck, Sonic, Monkey Ball, Call Of Duty.

And you'll still have $50 left over for other accessories.

I rest my case






COST REDUCTION = CRIPPLING
By peternelson on 2/23/2007 7:22:43 PM , Rating: 2
He talks of cost reduction and that is all very well to make the company more profitable.

However, in practice this means that they are taking out the PS2 hardware chips from PS3 and using software only which cripples much of the backward compatibility.

That will be the case for PS3 in Europe. I'm not happy with Sony. First they make Euro customers pay more than anywhere in the world about $850. Then we have to wait 4 months extra. And then we don't get the same product but a dumbed down version which can't run all our old PS2 games.

Other territories had better watch out as they are likely to get migrated to the non-backward compatible PS3 soon. Moral: if you want a hardware PS2 in your PS3, better buy it now. As for UK, this will probably encourage more people to buy imports rather than locally.

More on this story:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/news/105931/sony-c...

IMHO, Sony are antagonising the loyal userbase and shooting themselves in the foot. By all means find ways to manufacture it cheaper but reducing the capabilities to remove one significant advantage over X360 is surely the decision of noob beancounters who have no clue.




He owes
By WillieEvercome on 2/17/07, Rating: -1
RE: He owes
By Circle T on 2/17/2007 5:21:45 PM , Rating: 2
Your joke was aimed at the wrong guy. This story here is about Phil Harrison, the head of Worldwide Studios for SCE. You want to get ahold of Jack Tretton, the President and CEO of SCEA, for that lame joke you just drudged up. It was funny, last week. And even then, only for about 10 mins.

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