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The PS4 will be released this holiday season

Sony gave gamers a pre-E3 treat when it finally revealed its next-generation console, the PlayStation 4 (PS4). 

Sony unveiled the PS4 console the night before the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) conference, which runs from June 11-13. The company dropped a few details about the console's specs, games and controller earlier this year, but didn't show off the actual console until now.

The PS4 is a nearly all-black console with the exception of a strip of purple in the tower. One portion of the console has a glossy black finish and holds the PlayStation and Sony logos on it. The rest is a matte black finish.

Also, the curves of the PS3 are nowhere to be found on the PS4. It has a rhombus shape and sharp edges, and can lay horizontally or stand vertically. 



The updated DualShock 4 controller has a touch surface and a Share button to upload game footage to many different online networks. The PlayStation 4 Eye completes the hardware package with twin cameras and a four-microphone setup.

For those who need a refresher on what's under the hood, the PS4 will feature an 8-core 64-bit x86 Jaguar CPU built by AMD; a Radeon GPU comprised of 18 compute units (achieves 1.84 TFLOPS); a 6x Blu-ray drive; 8GB of GDDR5 of unified RAM; USB 3.0; Bluetooth 2.1; HDMI; optical out, and 802.11n Wi-Fi.

Sony also presented some of the upcoming PS4 games, such as "Elder Scrolls Online," which will launch next spring; "NBA 2K14"; "Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag"; "Killzone: Shadow Fall," which is due the first quarter of 2014; "Infamous: Second Son," which will be released the first quarter of 2014; "Final Fantasy Versus XIII," and "Kingdom Hearts III."



Sony also revealed some excellent game-related news for the PS4: there will be no new restrictions on used games, and the console won't need to go online in order to authenticate -- making it completely offline capable. This is a great edge for the PS4, considering Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 successor -- the Xbox One -- will allow third-party publishers to opt out of used game sales. Both Microsoft and the publishers don't receive license fees on used game sales, but Microsoft was sneaky about the new policy by allowing third parties to make the decision on whether to ban the new games -- which puts them to blame instead of Microsoft for upset gamers.


 
Microsoft announced its Xbox One console in late May. The new machine will feature an APU with eight x86-64 cores; 8GB of DDR3 RAM; a GPU based on an AMD GCN architecture with 12 compute units (768 cores total for 1.23 TFLOPS; a 500 GB non-replaceable hard drive; three USB 3.0 ports; HDMI, and a Blu-ray optical drive. 

The Xbox One will have an introductory price of $499 USD when it's released in November 2013. 

The PS4, which will be released during the holiday season of 2013, will have an introductory price of $399 -- another edge against the new Xbox. 

Sources: USA Today, The Verge



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So let me get this straight...
By lagomorpha on 6/11/2013 7:00:50 AM , Rating: 5
It's $100 cheaper than the XBox1, a bit more powerful, allows you to buy used games without restrictions, and doesn't have a backdoor built in so that the NSA can covertly spy on you through a built in camera?

I'm not a fan of Sony but I really hope Microsoft has trouble selling consoles this round.




RE: So let me get this straight...
By rpsgc on 6/11/2013 7:54:11 AM , Rating: 5
Reported to the NSA.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By lagomorpha on 6/11/2013 8:10:05 AM , Rating: 5
No need, PRISM automatically reports all posts with key words.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By GulWestfale on 6/11/2013 9:37:19 AM , Rating: 2
OP is right. it's more powerful, just as easy to develop for (same architecture, duh), is cheaper (maybe that's why they charge for PSN now, to subsidize the console), won't make you pay again for a used game, doesn't have to be online every day... i guess this also means that i could go to my friend's house with a game disc i like and play it on his PS4, something not possible with the xbox one since it would be recognized as a used game that he;d have to pay for before it would let us play on his machine.

so the next round will go clearly to sony, barring any unforeseen screwups; it really takes a mnoron at this point to buy an xbox one. and i say that having owned a 360 this last generation.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Mitch101 on 6/11/2013 10:03:51 AM , Rating: 1
Same architecture doesn't mean same development tools. When you write for Direct X your practically writing for X-Box one, PC, Windows Tablets, and Windows Phones. But it doesnt make any difference developers will learn the tricks of each console and porting wont be much of an issue.

The games will be virtually indistinguishable between the two consoles they might add something like lens flare to the PS4 version over the X-Box one version. Developers write for the lowest common denominator to maximize market sales then add some visuals to the higher powered device. Its not like it will look like minecraft on one console and jurrasic park on the other.

I do believe Sony has the big advantage solely based on launch price of $399.00 vs $499.00 and to some people that translates to buying the console and maybe two additional games. All depends if Microsoft decides to offer a bundle to try and offset that $100.00 difference.

Im also anxious to see how the Eye Toy does on the PS3 as the Eye Toy on the PS2 was fun but limited. Still I dont think it will be anywhere close to Kinect so if your into Dance games the x-box one will win hands down. Im curious to see if we can finally call the play, snap the football and pass/throw in football games on either console.

There is one feature that is interesting on the X-Box One and thats the HDMI input. Microsoft is doing something similar to Google TV but making a lot of inroads with cable companies. We could see discounted X-Box units coming from cable companies and there are articles on Time Warner and Verizon in talks with Microsoft on the consoles being used as cable devices. The X-Box one also has a really cool fantasy football tracking system built in and the NFL exclusive agreement which could be interesting.

Either way I think both consoles will be awesome and if possible I will try to own both of them. Both will succeed the only console that dropped the ball sadly is the Wii-U.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By MozeeToby on 6/11/2013 10:23:14 AM , Rating: 3
Cable is dying. I can't imagine the people who are willing to drop $500 on a launch console are the same people who are still using cable for the majority of their TV habits. It's a cool feature, and last generation it would have been a gamebreaker. But this generation? So long as the PS4 supports Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc I don't see it being that much of a selling point to the typical user.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Mitch101 on 6/11/2013 10:57:01 AM , Rating: 2
I agree but this is something outside the HDMI pass through.

Microsoft and Time Warner in Talks for XBox One TV Streaming Deal (MSFT)
http://www.dividend.com/news/2013/microsoft-and-ti...

The deal will be similar to one that Time Warner currently has with Roku, which streams 300 channels through the Time Warner app.

If Microsoft was able to capitalize on this deal, it could mean that the new console from the company, the XBox One, would also be able to stream cable channels. As reported by FierceCable, the CEO of Time Warner also suggested that the company is in talks with Apple to stream through Apple’s AppleTV device.

I just read cablevision is also on board.

With the new Xbox One, you’ll never watch TV the same way again
http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/21/with-the-new-xbo...
No longer need to rent one of those crappy cable boxes that was probably made a decade ago.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Mitch101 on 6/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: So let me get this straight...
By Motoman on 6/11/2013 12:41:06 PM , Rating: 4
...are you seriously going to justify:

* Paying $100 more...
* ...for lesser hardware...
* ...that horrifically abuses the First-Sale Doctrine
* ...and doesn't f%cking work if you don't have an internet connection

...because it has Skype? Which you can already do for free on every computer, tablet, and smartphone in the house? And maybe even your toaster oven?

Please. That is the lamest of all possible retarded excuses to justify an XBox Done purchase. You can show yourself out.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Motoman on 6/11/2013 12:43:26 PM , Rating: 4
Oh, and just to take care of the impending "but on teh ecks bocks teh skipes will be on teh tee vee!"

Spend $2 on an HDMI cable and connect your laptop to the TV then. Maybe even your tablet or smartphone. Yay! Skype on the TV for $2!

Remember kids: never go full retard.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By BRB29 on 6/11/2013 12:46:13 PM , Rating: 2
maybe their savior will be kinect


By EricMartello on 6/15/2013 12:05:07 AM , Rating: 2
$2 HDMI cables are bad news. The "good" cheap HDMI cables that will not fall apart are in the $10-$15. Microsoft knows this, and is expecting you to factor that into your decision.


By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 1:16:29 PM , Rating: 3
How to share games on PS4 tutorial. =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA


RE: So let me get this straight...
By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 10:27:01 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
The games will be virtually indistinguishable between the two consoles they might add something like lens flare to the PS4 version over the X-Box one version. Developers write for the lowest common denominator to maximize market sales then add some visuals to the higher powered device.

This is another urban myth. A lot of games will be relatively indistinguishable at launch, but the hardware really does have an undeniable gap. The difference will become clear around the 18- to 24-month mark.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Mitch101 on 6/11/13, Rating: -1
By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 11:36:11 AM , Rating: 4
This really is very simple.

Consider preset vs. custom graphics options in a PC game. There are "Low/Medium/High" presets and it goes to "Custom" if you start tweaking stuff yourself. The presets are built with certain classes of GPU and CPU in mind.

Console games are on a permanent preset. Call it the "Console" setting.

With the XBO and PS4 having (nearly) identical hardware architectures and similar development environments, it'll be relatively effortless for a game to have an "XBO" preset and a "PS4" preset.

The result is obvious.


By EricMartello on 6/15/2013 12:08:41 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is another urban myth. A lot of games will be relatively indistinguishable at launch, but the hardware really does have an undeniable gap. The difference will become clear around the 18- to 24-month mark.


The console maker usually releases at least one first-party "showcase" title that is shows off the system's capabilities. Remember Shenmue on the Dreamcast? I'd expect to see some good stuff on the PS4 if Sony can land some exclusive deals.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By ven1ger on 6/13/2013 5:37:33 PM , Rating: 2
I thought game developer usually write games for the specific machine they are targeting. They don't normally think of let's look at the common denominator of all machines so we can make the least visually appealing piece of software for all machines. Developers usually target the system of choice and then later port their games over to other machines. Usually the best selling console will get the most developers for it. And the others will have to settle for ports from the developer.

Developer don't have resources to worry about different architectures. They develop for one system then, when they make enough profit and have the additional resources they may decide to port games over to other architectures if it is deemed worthwhile to allocate the necessary resources to do the job. Sometimes the ports turn out good and sometimes the ports are botched.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Da W on 6/11/2013 10:51:36 AM , Rating: 1
Both consoles have crappy Jaguar (i.e. AMD'S atom) cores.
Get a Trinity + Radon 7850 PC and you'll have the firepower of a PS4 and be able to play everygame for the next decade.
You can use a dual shock or an xbox controler.
You can have a 256GB SDD for a low price now, even cheaper next year, and throw in 4X4GB HDD for storage if you want to.
Most phone and tablets games are getting ported to Windows 8, you can run android too with bluestack.
Playing over the internet is FREE.
Steam gets loads of games on sales at crasy prices.
You get nice PC exclusives.
Xbox exclusive should drop on the PC too.
You'll miss PS4 exclusive but i can live with that.
Plus, it's a PC.

(the 399$ PS4 will be the cheap version, presumably with a 8GB HDD!!! There's no free lunch.)


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Mitch101 on 6/11/2013 11:01:57 AM , Rating: 1
I love gaming on the PC especially First Person Shooters in triple screen mode however there are genres to me that are better on Consoles.

Me Personally

PC
Strategy like Starcraft and FPS - To me you need a mouse to select large groups quickly and keyboard for when you have many spells to cast and mouse for accuracy in FPS.

Consoles
Dance Games, Party Games, Racing Games, some Role Playing games.

My 2 cents.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By kypd275 on 6/11/2013 11:34:04 AM , Rating: 1
because console and pc hardware can be directly compared due to how they're utilized at a basic level :rolleyes: (hint: you can't).

Oh, and the PS4 also comes with 500GB HDD, if you're gonna try to be a PC gaming master race, you need to do better than this.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By cmart on 6/11/2013 4:09:20 PM , Rating: 2
PS4 HDD = upgradeable, swappable.

Let's not go overboard with the console FUD.


By PresidentThomasJefferson on 6/12/2013 2:57:46 AM , Rating: 2
PS4 confirmed to have 500 gb hard-drive that's user-replaceable (use a SSD if you want!) AND also can use USB 3.0 for expansion hard drives...

the PS4 has 50% more shaders (1152) & 32 ROPs rendering pipelines giving 1.84 GFlops vs. Xbox's 768 shaders & 16 ROPs rendering pipelines 1.23 GFlops ...


RE: So let me get this straight...
By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 8:13:13 AM , Rating: 2
Since the positives are so obvious, I'll just take a second to go over some of the negatives.

One, I really really wish Sony hadn't used sissy sneaky-speak to announce that online multiplayer is pay-only like Xbox Live now.

Two, it's kind of sad that status quo is enough for happy times these days; thunderous applause for "The scenario with sharing and selling your games is exactly the same as the entire history of mankind."


RE: So let me get this straight...
By lagomorpha on 6/11/2013 8:16:14 AM , Rating: 5
Oh I'm not saying I'll be buying a PS4, what I'm saying is I hope nobody buys an XBox One.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By xti on 6/11/2013 9:57:09 AM , Rating: 2
for the employees of all companies associated with the xbox, including MS's vendors, hope you are wrong.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Flunk on 6/11/2013 10:07:32 AM , Rating: 2
The flip side of that is that Sony could actually go out of business if the PS4 isn't a huge hit so I don't really think that's an important metric. As long as we spend money on gaming systems someone's employees are employed.


By lagomorpha on 6/11/2013 10:38:10 AM , Rating: 3
Broken window fallacy. Every dollar that isn't spent on XBoxes is a dollar spent on another game or concert tickets or dinner at a nice restaurant or a million other things. There is nothing that makes employees of companies associated with the xbox special compared to employees of companies providing every other entertainment, service, or product in the world.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By FITCamaro on 6/11/2013 1:44:26 PM , Rating: 2
You may not like Microsoft ALLOWING 3rd parties to block used games, but developers might.

Let's be clear here, despite the article trying to make Microsoft look like the bad guy, ultimately it is the publishers that will do it. Why is the feature there? Because third party developers are asking for it. Period.

Sony has said they aren't doing anything new, but that doesn't mean that developers won't make used games unplayable on the PS4 by requiring a code.

Now as far as the gifting limit, I agree with you. But get your panties straightened and don't make a bigger deal of it than it actually is.

The online requirement does suck though. And as far as the Kinect, we'll have to see. I could definitely see them caving on requiring it to be plugged in.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Motoman on 6/11/2013 2:06:41 PM , Rating: 3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

You might not like Microsoft ALLOWING 3rd parties to brutally abuse consumers by utterly molesting the First-Sale Doctrine, but...well, there is no but. Any and all support of the XBO is a heinous act of stupidity for that reason alone.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By greenchinesepuck on 6/11/2013 8:10:07 PM , Rating: 2
Steam pissed on your doctrine and feels very good after this. Actually feels better every year. Same's gonna happen with Xbox One. Deal with it, rural internetless loser.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Motoman on 6/11/2013 9:32:34 PM , Rating: 2
No, the USA pissed on it. Europe has it's act together and provides First-Sale protections for digital downloads. One would hope the USA will catch up.

Unless you really like having no rights, komrade urban internet troll.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: So let me get this straight...
By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 8:55:09 AM , Rating: 4
This is an old wives' tale. PSN is fine network-wise; people perceive the network as inferior because the community is inferior (and because of some issues with COD). And the community isn't inferior because it's free (my fellow Americans kill me with money-as-a-virtue, lol), it's because XBL was set up smarter community-wise, PS3 can't do cross-game chat, and every Xbox includes a headset.

All that has changed with PS4. But that doesn't really matter, because it's no longer free to play. I get it, and I'm not even surprised, but damn.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 9:07:47 AM , Rating: 2
I knew they would chanrge this time around, simply by the math. $5 a month didnt hurt MS, now think 10 million users (and that is a ver VERY low estimate) x $60 per year = 600 million every year for doing the exact same thing. X5 years and its now $3 billion.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 9:18:37 AM , Rating: 2
But the thing is if Sony had done PSN right in the first place, that $5 a month would have become a liability for Microsoft. MS had a foothold with Halo 2, so technically they were the ones to beat, but if Sony had been competent in the first place it really wouldn't have taken much effort. This is aside from the $600/$500 fiasco and the bottleneck/middleware issues.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 10:22:09 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. This time around though, it's very different and Sony is looking way better.

PS4 advantages.
- Better/Faster hardware
- $100 cheaper
- No "always on" req.
- used games will work without extra $ and hoops to jump through.

Other than that, I look at MS track record with quality in regards to failure rates, RROD etc. Many people are on thier 5, 6th (and some even higher) Xbox. MS replaced/repaired them, but what a pain. Sony has higher quality period.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By greenchinesepuck on 6/11/2013 8:37:07 PM , Rating: 2
All the Sony fanboys will sing totally different tune when MS ramps up its Kinect 2.0 optimized games and apps, Azure integration and TV/content deals and special programnming. Disks will die out eventually, and people stopped bothering about getting disks anyway, it's all digital nowadays. Sony is grasping at straws trying to stay relevant in the world going digital fast.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Farfignewton on 6/11/2013 9:46:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
All the Sony fanboys will sing totally different tune when MS ramps up its Kinect 2.0 optimized games and apps


Unlikely given that many despise the very idea of kinect.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By retrospooty on 6/12/2013 7:45:05 AM , Rating: 2
Kinect is freegin awesome... For about 10 mins, then it starts to get boring. If they can dramatically reduce the lag and get better game support it will certainly help, but its not going to make the Xbox One. It's a nice feature, specifically nice for kids games and exercise and dance based games like Zumba , but not really a great gaming device in itself for stanadard games.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By ven1ger on 6/13/2013 5:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
Hehe...and I thought the PS Move was a loser. At least the Kinect looks better than the PS Move...though I think the Wii got it right in the first place.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By BRB29 on 6/11/2013 9:15:34 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
This is an old wives' tale. PSN is fine network-wise

I play on both. Of course xbox live is better because it cost money. PSN is still pretty good and I would rate it as excellent since it is free. You can't complain about a free network being that reliable.
The annoying thing about xbox live is if you don't pay, you really can't play multiplayer games at all.

You get what you paid for I guess.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 10:25:14 AM , Rating: 3
"The annoying thing about xbox live is if you don't pay, you really can't play multiplayer games at all"

You cant even watch Netflix without paying FFS. Considering its free via the internet, PS3, Tivo anda most other DVR's , as well as most smart TV's and many many other applicances WTF do you have to pay to get it on your Xbox? Its not like its using thier internte service, its using your own home internet.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By ianweck on 6/11/2013 4:11:29 PM , Rating: 2
I can't imagine using my 360 to watch Netflix. The thing is louder than my printer. I like my Roku, nice and quiet.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By AlphaVirus on 6/11/2013 9:36:45 AM , Rating: 2
Stop spreading FUD, Sony's free online network works the same as Microsoft's paid network.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2013 2:10:00 PM , Rating: 2
yeah it was working real great last year when it was down for an entire month. Also great job on Sony's part of getting millions of users credit card information compromised. You're right great network!!


By Farfignewton on 6/11/2013 9:44:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
yeah it was working real great last year when it was down for an entire month


I had no problem playing my games or watching Netflix when the service was down. How is that going to work for Microsoft's new console?


By TakinYourPoints on 6/12/2013 2:20:42 AM , Rating: 1
Playstation Plus is a much better service than XBL. The free games they give out, newer games mind you, are amazing.

XBL puts Netflix behind a paywall FFS, it is ridiculous.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By kleinma on 6/11/2013 9:53:02 AM , Rating: 2
Why would they need the NSA? Sony will get your data dumped by hackers without any help from the Govt.


By lagomorpha on 6/11/2013 10:41:01 AM , Rating: 1
The difference is the PS4 doesn't come with an integrated camera that can be remotely enabled to record everything you say and do as in 1984 or the XCube 360 from the Futurama episode Overclockwise.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Motoman on 6/11/2013 11:20:14 AM , Rating: 1
Yup. We can already call this one. In this generation, PS4 by a landslide.

* No abuse of the first-sale doctrine
* No internet requirement
* Somewhat better hardware
* $100 cheaper

You'd have to be a horrifically moronic person to even consider buying an XBox Done over a PS4. The Wii U is probably already dead in the water, and doesn't compete for the same market as Xbox or PS anyway.

After this definitive announcement by Sony, every XBox Done sale should come with a punch in the face for being so stupid.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By augiem on 6/11/2013 1:59:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
$100 cheaper


People keep failing to mention that it comes with the 2nd generation Kinect. That's easily where the $100 difference comes from.


RE: So let me get this straight...
By Motoman on 6/11/2013 2:07:57 PM , Rating: 1
If the XBO was superior in every way to the PS4, and cost half as much, you'd still be a retard for buying one because of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Frankly, everything else in favor of the PS4 is just icing on the cake.


By greenchinesepuck on 6/11/2013 8:39:06 PM , Rating: 3
Your stupid doctrine is pissed on by Steam, deal with it loser.


By lexluthermiester on 6/24/2013 6:33:10 PM , Rating: 2
With you totally on this one. MS has become a bunch of belligerent, fascist morons.


By nangryo on 6/11/2013 7:10:59 AM , Rating: 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

So simple, but really makes a hard jab on microsoft :)




By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/11/2013 7:14:57 AM , Rating: 3
Hilarious, that's getting embedded :)


By AlphaVirus on 6/11/2013 9:40:09 AM , Rating: 2
Microsoft says that you can do this but only after you've known the person for 30 days, and there is no take backsies (or whatever those kids are saying these days).


By Motoman on 6/11/2013 11:30:52 AM , Rating: 1
MS says you can do that *once* - ever, for a given copy of a game.

And there's still the requirement for online activation.

PS4 is lightyears ahead of XBox Done simply because Sony isn't fabricating any of these abusive "requirements" at all. By standing still on the issue of game sharing/selling and internet usage, Sony finds itself infinitely better than Microsoft.


By ianweck on 6/11/2013 4:14:26 PM , Rating: 2
You don't like the new Xbox. We get it.


Time has changed
By BRB29 on 6/11/2013 8:33:11 AM , Rating: 2
Remember when TFLOPS were supercomputers?
Now you can have it for under $400.




RE: Time has changed
By KillerNoodle on 6/11/2013 8:53:25 AM , Rating: 2
I remember when there wan't a consideration for graphics cards since it was text based.


RE: Time has changed
By BRB29 on 6/11/2013 9:04:57 AM , Rating: 2
lol DOS? I have a love/hate relationship with DOS


RE: Time has changed
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 9:08:49 AM , Rating: 3
cd\
dir
del *.*

oops ;)


So...
By kypd275 on 6/11/2013 11:39:34 AM , Rating: 2
Where are all the MS fanboys that were adamant that Sony was going to do the exact same thing that MS pulled?

Waiting in line at the local burn center? :p




RE: So...
RE: So...
By karimtemple on 6/12/2013 9:23:22 AM , Rating: 2
What an idiotic article, lol. Kotaku should be ashamed of themselves.


MS got its own medicine here.
By BRB29 on 6/11/2013 12:05:18 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like sony is using the same strategy as ms before. Eat the cost per console and grab market share. The good thing for Sony is that the Yen is about to suffer from more inflation. That will actually help their bottom line with export. It will also make xbox look way too expensive in their home market.




By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 12:38:18 PM , Rating: 2
They're probably not eating cost this time. The XBO has some pretty expensive parts in it.


By Farfignewton on 6/11/2013 9:54:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Looks like sony is using the same strategy as ms before. Eat the cost per console and grab market share.


Sony did that last time too. Over $200/unit on one of the PS3 launch models if I recall. Problem was it was STILL too expensive, and there was realistically no way to make up that large of a loss.


Wait a minute...
By TonySquish on 6/12/2013 8:40:00 AM , Rating: 2
I looks like BOTH console manufacturers are taking the exact same approach on the first and third party used games market.

They've both said that MS or Sony games will be able to be shared but third party games will be up to the developer.

http://kotaku.com/third-party-publishers-will-have...




RE: Wait a minute...
By karimtemple on 6/12/2013 9:27:00 AM , Rating: 2
Neither you nor Kotaku appears to know how to read English.


A strip of what?
By bug77 on 6/11/2013 6:51:36 AM , Rating: 3
That blue is now called purple?




Sold!
By room200 on 6/11/2013 7:06:47 AM , Rating: 2
I'll be getting one. Microsoft totally effed this one up.




A Possibility For Me
By wempa on 6/11/2013 10:44:53 AM , Rating: 2

Kudos to Sony for not going with the draconian DRM ! I'm definitely skipping the Xbox One, but the PS4 is a possibility. Still, I'm not sold on any of the next generation consoles. With prices as high as they are and the marginal advancements over the previous generation, I'm more inclined to put the money towards a gaming PC.




Sold on Hardware/Principles
By siberus on 6/11/2013 1:47:50 PM , Rating: 2
Well they got me sold on the hardware/price and principle standpoint. All they need to do now to snag me as a buyer is release some rpg's. Probably won't even think about purchasing until late 2014. While I enjoyed my ps3 it more or less left me depressed about the state of localization of rpg's. Felt like this generation had the least amount of quality rpg's localized to english. I've considered buying a wii u if only to play rpg's I missed on the wii (the last story, xenoblades). However their current lineup is pretty anemic and aside from some interesting games that release dates are still TBD (shin megami tensai x fire emblem) theres nothing there to convince me to take that plunge.




AUS Pricing!?
By taylortheking on 6/11/2013 7:08:23 PM , Rating: 2
How do the prices go from being $399US (PS4) and $499US (XBOX) for each system to....

$550AUS (PS4) and $600AUS (XBOX)

Really hope they arent region locked and i can order one online or get a mate to bring one home from the US...




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