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Sony's BDP-300 shipping with $499 price tag

Sony announced in February that it planned to ship its second-generation Blu-ray Disc player at $599.99 this summer – but before the product has even hit the market, the manufacture slashed the product’s price by $100. The BDP-300 is now officially set for $499.99, a price at half of what players cost at Blu-ray’s introduction.

When Blu-ray Disc players first hit the market, be it either the Samsung BD-P1000 or the Sony BDP-S1, they were selling for $999.99. Of course, when the PlayStation 3 hit, one could buy a 20GB machine capable of playing the new, high-def media for half that $499.99. Sony later discontinued the 20GB PS3, but even the $599.99 60GB machine was cheaper than any standalone Blu-ray player. Samsung also dropped prices for its second-generation offering, the BD-P1200, which comes in at $799.99.

The Sony BDP-300, at $499.99, will finally be the cheapest way to get into Blu-ray Disc players without buying one that comes with a gaming component. The move is likely a good one both for Sony’s electronics and gaming divisions. Those who were buying a PS3 for its Blu-ray movie capabilities, without any plans on buying any gaming software, were hurting Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.’s bottom line, as it is well publicized that the PS3 consoles are sold at a loss.

In April, a Sony subsidiary said that it was able to increase production of blue-violet laser diodes used in Blu-ray drives. The production jump and lowering prices of components were likely at play for new price of Sony’s player. The BDP-300 is shipping to retailers this week.



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Still cost way to much...
By Marlin1975 on 6/4/2007 11:43:23 AM , Rating: 2
You can get a HD-DVD player for less then $300, so $500 is still way to high unless they are trying to push people to buy a PS3 at only $100 more?

That and with rumors that Wal-Mart will be selling a cheap HD-DVD player later this year will only make this price seem even worse.




RE: Still cost way to much...
By AlexWade on 6/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: Still cost way to much...
By jtdwab on 6/4/2007 12:38:31 PM , Rating: 4
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You do know that not every Blu-Ray player can play all Blu-Ray movies?


Thats not exactly true. All movies can play in all players The difference is that some of the extended features that may not play. You can always watch the movie. Eitherway both sides have had problems getting discs to play in every machine everytime.

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The other reason I like HD DVD better is all movies use VC-1, which is visually superior to MPEG-2.


This is also not exacly true. HD DVD support titles in Mpeg, VC-1 and AVC. Some have been released in VC-1 and some in AVC. It is true that none have been released in Mpeg but it is also true that a properly done MPEG2 is visually equivalent ot VC-1 only bigger. The screwup here is in Sony not taking the time to get the conversions right on the initial releases and a screw up on samsung for the initial player. Many movies are now being released in all codecs for Blu-Ray as well.

Just a couple thoughts


RE: Still cost way to much...
By Nobody Else on 6/4/2007 12:51:04 PM , Rating: 2
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You do know that not every Blu-Ray player can play all Blu-Ray movies?


Feel free to enlighten me, as I'm sure you can answer this more quickly than I can try to look it up. Exactly which Blu-Ray player cannot play which Blu-Ray movie? I'm aware that some current BR players cannot utilize some of the more advanced BR-java features included on some discs, but it was my understanding that all current players are capable of playing all movies on Blu-Ray discs.

Thanks.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By hantak on 6/4/2007 9:27:48 PM , Rating: 2
I believe he is referring to issues surrounding "The Descent".

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Technical_G...

When the user put the disc in a player, it would not load at all. From my understanding, they couldn't get it to play normally on several Sony stand-alone players.

But it played fine on a PS3.

The reasoning was that the stand-alone players weren't updated with the latest firmware.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By chick0n on 6/4/07, Rating: -1
RE: Still cost way to much...
By room200 on 6/4/2007 10:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
There always has to be some ignorant, rude, tough guy (from behind the safety of a keyboard) who responds in a way totally unnecessary.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By Mitch101 on 6/4/2007 12:16:37 PM , Rating: 2
I saw the HD-DVD player with 5 free movies for $240.00 and most recently someone posted it was $200.00 somewhere. This was for the version 2 not the version 1 player.

Im betting if they had enough of those HD-DVD players for sale that Disc sales are going to get very interesting the next month or two.

I would have bought it but being as the wife scalded me for buying a Nintendo Wii this weekend I didnt want to be too far in the dog house. She didnt fall for the kids needing it either. On a second note this really sucks while HD is moving main stream it still sucks that we dont have a clear winner. So even though its $200.00 I couldnt buy one based on the idea that certain movies I want might not come out for it. I hate this but I can play Wii until there is a winner or an alternative that plays both.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By steven975 on 6/4/2007 12:47:57 PM , Rating: 2
I think Toshiba lowering the price has really accelerated HD-DVD sales.

Take this for what it's worth:
The Toshiba HD-A2 was the #1 Electronics item on Amazon for a little while. Electronics includes cameras, memory cards, etc.

The HD-A2 has been the #1 selling DVD player on Amazon for a while now. That includes regular DVD, Blu-Ray, and HD-DVD players. ALL THREE Toshiba models (including the A20 and XA2) are consistently in the top 25 DVD players at Amazon. A Samsung Blu-Ray player occasionally gets #25 but no other BD players hit the top 50. The HD-DVD players are selling like hotcakes, as is the Xbox HD-DVD drive.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By FITCamaro on 6/4/2007 2:57:33 PM , Rating: 1
Yes but a few million PS3s being out there as well also has contributed to a large number of Blu-ray players being in the channel. There's probably 3-4x the number of PS3s out there being used for playing Blu-ray movies than actual standalone players.

If theres one thing that will definitely win HD-DVD this battle, its price. With this new Sony player, that still puts them $250-300 away from being as cheap as HD-DVD. The only thing Blu-ray has going for it is that Sony owns a lot of movie studios and will fight to the bitter end to not have another failed format.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By steven975 on 6/4/07, Rating: 0
RE: Still cost way to much...
By borowki on 6/4/2007 3:38:41 PM , Rating: 2
Where are the cheap HD-DVD drives for PCs? If they sell a $100 drive, I'll bite.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By Future145 on 6/4/2007 8:09:27 PM , Rating: 3
there is one but its $200.
its the xbox 360 HD-DVD drive, its usb based so you can connect it to your PC and it will work.
anandtech did a review on it
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2890


RE: Still cost way to much...
By Timeless on 6/4/2007 2:11:39 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
That and with rumors that Wal-Mart will be selling a cheap HD-DVD player later this year will only make this price seem even worse.


Why must people bring up the rumor that Wal-mart is getting Hd-DVDs? Unless you have facts to prove your rumors, please don't fill this place up with random stuff. Last I heard, that rumor was proven false. If you can prove me wrong, then I apolgize.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By h0kiez on 6/4/2007 2:34:50 PM , Rating: 2
How exactly does a rumor get "proven false"?

Does Wal-Mart commenting "we know nothing about this deal" mean that it was proven false? If the rumor was that Wal-Mart will roll out cheap HD DVD players late 2007, I'm pretty sure the only way to prove it false would be to wait for late 2007.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By borowki on 6/4/2007 3:21:48 PM , Rating: 2
From the Register:

quote:
In short, it was bidding for Wal-Mart's business, which it had not yet won. Either way, Wal-Mart appears interesting in acquiring a heap of cheap HD DVD players, and even if Fukuhiko/Fuh Yuan fails to win the manufacturing contract, some other Asian manufacturer will.

The rumor is very much still alive...


RE: Still cost way to much...
By ATC on 6/5/2007 2:34:43 AM , Rating: 2
I don't know about this rumour. I've read so many threads on so many sites about it and so many different translations (correct me if I'm wrong but the original rumour was in Chinese). There seem to be a number of those who believe it's an HD-DVD that they're getting and an equal number of those who think it will be BD.

No one knows and I would take this rumour with a huge grain of salt.

I will say this though; at three local Walmarts I see a pattern where shelf space for BD movies is three times that of HD-DVD titles. Obviously Walmart is at least as much behind BD as they are behind HD-DVD which makes me think that, if anything, Walmart will most likely get cheap players for both formats.


By theapparition on 6/5/2007 7:44:37 AM , Rating: 2
I'm going to have to agree with you here. How many times did Microsoft get asked about the HDMI Xbox360, with a cryptic "We have no plans at this time to release any new models". Companies don't always post their corporate stategies on the web.

Playing devil's advocate though, I don't believe anywhere it was mentioned HD-DVD. It was just assumed because of the price.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By Hakuryu on 6/4/2007 3:27:50 PM , Rating: 3
I may be wrong, but I saw a commercial a couple of days ago for a HD-DVD player for $199 along with 2 movies... I thought it was from Wal Mart, but I wasn't really paying attention.


RE: Still cost way to much...
By FITCamaro on 6/4/07, Rating: -1