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The Cell Broadband Engine as it resides in the PS3  (Source: DailyTech)
PS3 CPU and GPU chips shift from play to work in new computer board

When Sony, Toshiba and IBM sunk billions of research and development dollars into designing the Cell Broadband Engine, surely the companies had other plans for the processor other than just to power a games machine.

Sony this week said that it will unveil a prototype of a new Cell Computing Board, which is composed of both Cell Broadband Engine and RSX GPU chips – components also found inside every PlayStation 3. Sony plans to show the Cell Computing Board at the SIGGRAPH show from August 7 to 9.

The Cell Broadband Engine chip alone is capable of outputting 230 GFLOPS, and Sony believes that the incorporation of RSX “realizes arithmetic operation speeds beyond” that speed.

The Cell Computing Board is designed to handle industrial applications. According to Sony is expected to demonstrate the technology’s use in real-time processing of 4K images, or extremely high-resolution pictures. The Cell Computing Board is also expected to be used for computer graphics rendering and various physics simulations that take advantage of “multi-thread processing ability” of the Cell/B.E.

The Board will be able to be embedded in a 1U (unit) sized server and mounted on a 19-inch rack, and will consume 400W or less, said Sony.

The Cell Broadband Engine has already been tested with non-gaming applications. Even on the PlayStation 3, the Cell is able to run protein-folding simulations for Folding@home. Other scientific-related applications include medical imaging at Mayo. The processor is also being used for the sake of national security in surveillance technology .

Before Sony may fully roll out its new computer boards, it may have to contend with a lawsuit stakes claim on the Cell’s architecture. Newport Beach, Calif.-based Parallel Processing Corporation is currently suing Sony for patent infringement over the Cell/B.E.



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So basically...
By FITCamaro on 8/2/2007 1:32:33 PM , Rating: 3
They pulled the motherboard of the PS3 out of the PS3 and are selling it as a standalone product?

I would also think IBM would be a little upset about this as the server space is IBM's arena. I doubt they would appreciate Sony trying to intrude on that.




RE: So basically...
By darkpaw on 8/2/2007 1:43:33 PM , Rating: 2
IBM makes their big money on massive parrell systems, or more accurately the software and services that support them. I don't think they'll care much if Sony releases a 1U single processor system.


RE: So basically...
By omnicronx on 8/2/2007 1:43:50 PM , Rating: 1
we all know this is just sony PR.. dont look too deep into it ;)


RE: So basically...
By BiuTech on 8/2/2007 2:07:16 PM , Rating: 1
I was going to say the same thing. More Sony PR - Cell powers the Universe and makes the world go 'round...

Thanks Sony, without you there would be no night and day.


RE: So basically...
By UNCjigga on 8/2/2007 1:51:43 PM , Rating: 2
Unless...[lightbulb]...IBM used it in their products? But why would IBM do that? Makes no sense to sell a product you invested billions of R&D in... ;)


RE: So basically...
By Polynikes on 8/2/2007 7:36:02 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously. This seems like IBM territory. Sounds like IBM and Toshiba seriously let themselves get screwed in the contract regarding the Cell's uses outside of the PS3.


RE: So basically...
By MDme on 8/2/2007 6:36:12 PM , Rating: 3
Sony has finally found a use for all those UNSOLD PS3 units....

take the mobo, cell and RSX...sprinkle in a little Sony bullsh...er...PR then voila...

SONY COMPUTING BOARD!


RE: So basically...
By iNGEN on 8/4/2007 11:39:11 AM , Rating: 2
This is exactly what IBM got involved for in the first place.

IBM transitioned to being a unified service oriented company under Gerstner in the 1990s. This little gadget, however paltry it may appear to some, is the pioneer product for the generation of centralized systems upon which IBM will depend throughout the next decade.


RE: So basically...
By afkrotch on 8/4/2007 1:47:48 PM , Rating: 1
IBM makes money either way. They create the processors, so they make money by selling them to Sony. If the product does well, many others may look towards IBM's parallel Cell based systems or their Cell based supercomputers.

Either way, the only ppl Sony are competiting with is Mercury, not IBM. Unless Sony decides to jump into making dual Cell blade servers, it's not a problem to IBM.


the future looks grand!
By cheetah2k on 8/2/2007 10:32:29 PM , Rating: 2
Looking at the multitude of tasks the Cell engine could be used for, i'm very interested to know how Cell could be applied to DirectX and used in competition to ATi and Nvidia in the graphics card industry....

Imagine a Quad C2D, and Cell processing your graphics!




RE: the future looks grand!
By Schmeh on 8/2/2007 11:27:20 PM , Rating: 1
It would be terrible at rendering in DirectX. If the cell was a capable real-time render, Sony would have use 2 of them in the PS3 and never used the RSX.


RE: the future looks grand!
By sxr7171 on 8/3/2007 1:15:11 AM , Rating: 2
Well get yourself some Bose speakers and some Absolut Vodka.


RE: the future looks grand!
By B166ER on 8/3/2007 1:47:16 AM , Rating: 2
Now thats funny!


RE: the future looks grand!
By encia on 8/3/2007 7:55:07 AM , Rating: 2
Beaten up AMD Radeon HD 2800(or AMD Radeon X1900) + Intel Quad C2D.


RE: the future looks grand!
By encia on 8/3/2007 8:08:30 AM , Rating: 2
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Gets beaten up by AMD Radeon HD 2800(or AMD Radeon X1900) + Intel Quad C2D.


RE: the future looks grand!
By DingieM on 8/3/2007 8:18:57 AM , Rating: 2
HD 29xx really


400W power draw?
By killerroach on 8/2/2007 2:30:41 PM , Rating: 2
Apparently they're either using some freakish variant of the PS3's processors that I'm not aware of, or they're stating worst-case scenario. The PS3 may have a 380W PSU, but real-world tests show that it actually draws about half that... and this board wouldn't have to deal with the power draw of a Blu-Ray drive, either.

Link: http://www.twitchguru.com/2007/04/26/power_supply_...

That being said, with a robust SDK (knowing Sony, that's a big if, but their Cell development partners may be able to assist here), this could be an interesting way to get some added "oomph" to an HPC or cluster configuration in very little space...




RE: 400W power draw?
By masher2 (blog) on 8/2/2007 2:39:37 PM , Rating: 2
I imagine that number is the result of marketing calling one of the engineers and getting a reply, around a mouth full of lunchtime sandwich, of "well I dunno for sure, but I can promise you it'll be less than 400 watts".


RE: 400W power draw?
By Gul Westfale on 8/3/2007 12:37:02 AM , Rating: 2
yes 400W sounds too much but you have to consider that a 400W using only half its max rating is going to run cooler and more reliably in the long run than a smaller 200 watter that is constantly running at max capacity. also they need to make sure that if a person sticks a couple more hard drives in there that they have enough juice for that.


RE: 400W power draw?
By sxr7171 on 8/3/2007 1:13:44 AM , Rating: 2
Not really. There is an optimal point of operation for a PS, and it is usually around 80% of continuous capacity. Running a PS at 50% tends not to be the most efficient point of operation. It was probably a BS marketing number that the PS could supply for a millisecond or two when the seventh moon of Jupiter lines up the middle star of the middle row of the constellation Orion.


RE: 400W power draw?
By afkrotch on 8/4/2007 1:55:55 PM , Rating: 1
Well, the Cell for the server will be using it's 8th SPE. Also, It's more likely that the server will actually be capable of hitting full load, while the PS3 probably isn't able to, even with Folding@Home.

At the same time, it'll contain more system memory, probably more dedicated graphics memory, a more robust cooling system, expansion slots, etc.

It's really all assumptions though.


RE: 400W power draw?
By JimFear on 8/6/2007 4:51:42 AM , Rating: 2
I expect there'd be some onboard mass storage controller of some variety, a few hard drives and some hefty high draw fans (remember this is U1 form factor, not George Forman form factor).