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Sony's cameras and camcorders are winners; PlayStation plays loser

Sony last week released its quarterly results with mostly good news, marred only by several sagging divisions. The Japanese electronics company’s net income hit 73.7 billion yen ($646 million USD), ahead of analysts’ expectations.

The core business of Sony, which would be its consumer electronics, led the way for the company’s bettered bottom line. According to Bloomberg, strong sales of Sony’s Cybershot digital cameras and Handycam camcorders contributed to Sony’s successful quarter in the black.

Televisions continue to sell well for Sony, but due to the falling prices of the LCD market, the Bravia line failed to turn a profit.

The true loser in Sony’s roster of companies is its computer entertainment division. Sony had to revise its forecasts for its gaming unit due to greater than expected losses. Sony’s now expects to sold its controlling share of its advanced chip making facilities to Toshiba and had an IPO for its financial holdings arm.

With the disappointing sales numbers of the PlayStation 3, one may wonder how much more Stringer may take before making drastic changes to SCEI. Early on, Stringer identified the price of the PlayStation 3 as a major issue, promising that it’ll be something that will be studied and refined.

Compared to the Wii, the Sony CEO knows that it has an uphill battle in selling the PlayStation 3 – which at the time of launch, cost more than double what Nintendo was charging for its console. Stringer admitted as much in a previous interview, saying, “Wii is a wonderful device, but has a different target audience. If we fail, it is because we positioned PS3 as the Mercedes of the video game field. PS3 is after a different audience and it can be whatever it wants — a home server, game device, even a computer.”





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Stringer followed with...
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2007 8:22:25 AM , Rating: 5
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Stringer admitted as much in a previous interview, saying, “Wii is a wonderful device, but has a different target audience. If we fail, it is because we positioned PS3 as the Mercedes of the video game field. PS3 is after a different audience and it can be whatever it wants — a home server, game device, even a computer.”


Stringer then followed with, "We here at Sony, like Mercedes, believe our products are far better than anyone else's, and price them as such. Stay tuned for next month's new $299 PS3 model where we strip the ability to play games at all from it. It will be followed by a $100 model in December that is just a box that sits in your entertainment center to give the illusion that you are as awesome as we are."

I know I'll get modded down for that, but I thought it was funny. So I'll laugh and you uptight people can mod me down.




RE: Stringer followed with...
By mdogs444 on 10/30/07, Rating: -1
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By SavagePotato on 10/30/07, Rating: 0
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By weskurtz0081 on 10/30/07, Rating: -1
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By SavagePotato on 10/30/07, Rating: -1
RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 10:32:55 AM , Rating: 3
I've seen a decline in fanboyish posts regarding all consoles, not just the PS3, here on DT.

I'm guessing another half year and all such posts will disappear anyways. There's no reason to bash another console, unless you don't have it and it somehow makes you feel better to put down a console that you can't or don't want to have. As more and more people own all of the consoles, that mentality will disappear.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 10:47:42 AM , Rating: 2
Plus Sony is correcting the one major PS3 issue, price... It was never bad hardware, but the price was killing it... As pricing gets more inline with what people would pay for a gaming console you'll see gamers picking them up... I've never been much of a playstation person my self, but if the price manages to fall a bit more I might consider picking one up my self!


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 12:07:40 PM , Rating: 2
Well, on Friday you'll be able to buy the 40GB console for $399. It appears some Walmart stores have already put it on the shelves.

Also, and I'm not sure where I read it, other stores are supposedly going to start offering bundles on the 60GB version, such as a free game or controller (until it sells out). That might be a pretty decent deal as well, if you were planning on purchasing that controller or game, that is.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 1:02:36 PM , Rating: 2
This is still a bit pricy for me unfortunetly... I didn't get a Premium X-Box until the $350 HDMI enabled model was released... I'm still in the process of paying off the best buy CC from the last console (360) purchase... Mainly due to the fact that when I buy consoles I don't just buy the console... Console + 3 extra controllers + games (many many 360 games)...


RE: Stringer followed with...
By michal1980 on 10/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 2:32:25 PM , Rating: 2
Honeslty the mod system on this forum is one of my least fav features about DT... In theory it's great, but it's really bizzar the way people mod things... I think the majority of people modding just skim the posts then "vote" based on what they think they read in the post, fankely it's the only way I can make sense of most mods.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 4:19:20 PM , Rating: 2
The mod system here sucks :)


RE: Stringer followed with...
By ViperROhb34 on 10/30/2007 11:27:24 AM , Rating: 2
Reality is the PS2 was a big Sony cash cow, and PS3 sales reflect this. Because of PS3 analyst expected less of Sony's income they beat expectations with a net income hit 73.7 billion yen ( $646 million USD ) in Qtr1

Conversely, the shear difference between Microsoft's Net income and Sony's puts them in Entirely different leagues!
Evwn with Xbox 360's losses they really don't have to bat an eyelash with M$ having a net income of 4.2 billion in Qtr1

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Records+Sharp+I...


RE: Stringer followed with...
By BladeVenom on 10/30/2007 8:53:49 AM , Rating: 5
I never liked the Mercedes analogy anyways. The PC is clearly the high end for gaming. Consoles are more like mass transit where someone else makes all the decisions.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 10:35:55 AM , Rating: 2
Eh... I used to be a *HUGE* PC gamer, but then I upgraded to a 50" HD-TV and got a 360... Now I do much perfer consoles to PC games (19" LCD v. 50" HD... comon)... This isn't to say a well configured PC with a big monitor won't give you a great experience either... Perhaps 360/PS3/PC are all luxury cars? Wii would probably fall somewhere around a really nice (well equipped) volvo/saab or some such thing (HD output would be nice). Everything else would be your ford/chevy/honda/toyota.

lol, hard to equate these things... My very good friend for instance much perfers Wii to everything else because of the great controller design, and there's a lot to be said for this (they also don't have an HD-TV).


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 10:47:43 AM , Rating: 2
I never liked the car analogies, but they started to grow on me.

Wii: Corolla - it does what many people want it to do, but it doesn't offer many exciting things in terms of features. But it does what it does well.

360: Civic - the base model isn't that great, but you can upgrade to the SI to get a nice feature set. For the price of an SI, though, you could have bought a higher end car though.

PS3: Taurus - the new model is great, reliable, and has most features that people would want in the car. However, the sales are struggling. Also, it seems overpriced for its target audience.

(disclaimer: I own a Civic SI and a Camry, and a Wii + PS3)


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 10:58:15 AM , Rating: 2
I'm a Wii/60 owner... I suppose that's not far far off, though I might give consoles (particularly 360 & PS3) a bump up from "everyday cars" because they much more neatly fit the needs of your entertainment center... Though I guess this POV might be different if you're not as focused on the entertainment center as I am these days...

In the past I was much more of a PC person, but these days I'm liking the entertainment center with consoles much better. Paticularly with the 360 I *LOVE* the media center integration. I don't even use media center as my DVR (though I'm considering switching), but just being able to share out my Mp3 colleciton to the 360 and playing it on my home stereo is very very nice! Again so much of this is based on needs... While I'm curious about the PS3, in my case a 360 fits my needs so much better... I'm a huge halo fan, and I much perfer the 360's multimeida functions to Sony's current feature set (particularly the media center integration).


RE: Stringer followed with...
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2007 11:09:33 AM , Rating: 5
Relating a Civic to anything other than teenagers who think the Fast & the Furious is the bible of automotive modification should be illegal.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By flutedude2005 on 10/30/2007 2:02:26 PM , Rating: 2
lol, ps3 = ford. is that a backhanded compliment?


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 2:34:13 PM , Rating: 2
I'm a fan of ford, currently the car I'm most intersted is the Ford/MS car being developed... I love the idea of my car having all sorts of bluetooth gadegtry and such... And frankly if you check current reliability ratings, american car companies in general have been doing pretty damn good (where as Europe last I heard was on a downward trend, though last I heard was a little while ago now).


RE: Stringer followed with...
By rdeegvainl on 10/31/2007 6:31:14 AM , Rating: 2
O my that describes my situation perfectly.
first car 93 taurus
First Console PS1
Next Car 06 Taurus
Next console, PS2
Car I want but cant afford New Taurus
Console I want but can't afford, PS3


RE: Stringer followed with...
By logaldinho on 10/30/2007 10:57:24 AM , Rating: 2
you DO realize that pc's have a higer resolution than standard "HD" for television? if a company would make a 50" tv capable of high end computer resolutions it would be crazy expensive and you wouldnt play consoles anymore.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 11:13:12 AM , Rating: 3
I'd rather be playing on a 50" TV at 720P than a 20" monitor at 1600x1200 (which I don't even own at home, I have a 19" LCD at 1280x1024). This is a personal perference thing, but my preferece is for the bigger screen, I'm happy with the resolution. Then take into account that my 5.1 home stereo is set up much better than my 5.1 pc speakers (unfortunetly the surround speakers can't actually be behind me) so in my case, consoles on the home theater system are an all over win....

This doesn't even include the extended multimedia functions consoles allow. With my 360 I can already purchase and view HD-TV shows through Video Market place, or rent movies in HD via market place. With my HD-DVD upgrade I can purchanse HD-DVD movies and be amazed with all kinds of HD-DVD eye-candy goodness (I'm also not complaining about the 5.1 audio performance). Should I ever purchase a PS3 I'll be able to add the BD check mark.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 11:32:24 AM , Rating: 2
And as mentioned by another poster PC games in the past have been patch happy requiring a good deal of effort on the gamers part. Consoles until very recently have not requried any sort of patching, while PS3/360 allow for patching (and I've seen patches for most of my games), the process is significantly much more painless than it is for PC gaming in general and downloads tend to be much faster as everything is hosted by microsoft/sony respectivly (as far as I know) rather than a host of bandwidth limited (unless you pay premium download fees) servers...

Some PC games (Vale with steam in particular) make the process painless by backgrounding it, or automatically checking when the game launches, but consoles in general still provide a better experience. I'm not sure if Games for windows will help change this, hopefully it's part of the mandate.

Of course none of this addresses hardware driver updates which is still a particularly sesitive issue on windows vista (particularly 64b) which I run (vista ultimate 64b).


RE: Stringer followed with...
By timmiser on 10/30/2007 2:14:32 PM , Rating: 3
Everything you bring up has pretty much been how it has always been between pc gaming and console gaming. For me, what makes pc gaming more attractive even for the extra work required has always been the ever increasing quality of gaming. Since the hardware requirements always increase over time for pc games, you are always on the bleeding edge of technology. Graphics, resolution, features, customizing, etc. are always getting better while the Xbox 360 for example, is now 2 years old technology and won't be changing for the next few years.

When consoles first come out their games are always very close to the current PC games available but now that it is two years old, PC games are starting to look much better than their console brethrens.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 2:36:00 PM , Rating: 2
I was right there with you until the advent of the original x-box and particularly now the x-box 360.... What I'm seeing now is console gaming experiences on par with what I get out of a PC (particularly since everyone is developing for consoles now).


RE: Stringer followed with...
By timmiser on 10/30/2007 2:55:32 PM , Rating: 2
There are a few websites that compared the Xbox 360 version with the PC version of games like Prey and that was nearly a year ago. Although very close in quality, the PC version was already looking better not to mention the higher resolution and a cheaper retail price.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6154261/p-1.html


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 3:27:03 PM , Rating: 1
But if you read the fine print....

"+ Looks better than the Xbox 360 version on higher-end PCs"...

That's just one more problem the the PC platform, you need to constantly upgrade... Just to stay midrange you practically need to be upgrading on a bi-annual cycle (I know this because I had been doing that for a long time). It gets really expensive after a while, and hard to justify...

On the other hand you don't need to worry about this with consoles... Perhaps nearing the end of the life cycle of the console the graphics might be siginificantly worse than a PCs, but at least you didn't spend thousands of dollars over the years trying to keep up with the curve.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By timmiser on 10/30/2007 5:29:51 PM , Rating: 2
That is absolutely correct. You do have to keep upgrading, but I see that as a positive of staying at the cutting edge of gaming, while you see it as a negative.

Either viewpoint is perfectly OK!


RE: Stringer followed with...
By rdeegvainl on 10/31/2007 6:40:57 AM , Rating: 2
Wow,
Opinions, and they are being respected.... It's not the first of April guys, what's going on?


RE: Stringer followed with...
By BrgMx5 on 10/30/2007 10:58:25 AM , Rating: 2
No doubt the PC is the better state of the art gaming machine, but i got tired of having to update frequently (to play the game as it was meant to be played), and having those stupid OS things like install, defrag, re-install, incompatible, driver update (oops can´t find the driver)... oh no this driver version produces artifacts, is not right, etc, etc, etc.

So, as the new gen consoles can play the games at 720p or 1080p, i just bought a console, and i know it is good for 4 to 6 years, and is dead simple to use (power on, Play, Power off).

For me, it was the best option.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By RandallMoore on 10/30/2007 11:54:40 AM , Rating: 3
Yea,... Try playing BF2 in 7.1 surround sound with an Audigy2zs. It's impossible. Creative drivers are so horrid that I regret spending money on a 7.1 system because every game that you try to play ends up choppy and frustrating. When developers design games for one specific setup, (console) good things happen. You don't need to worry about what graphics driver to use with Assassin's Creed.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By crystal clear on 10/30/2007 10:52:40 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Stay tuned for next month's new $299 PS3 model where we strip the ability to play games at all from it. It will be followed by a $100 model in December that is just a box that sits in your entertainment center to give the illusion that you are as awesome as we are."


If Sony is refining PS3 prices then you are REDEFINING the PS3 & next you can claim you REINVENTED the PS3

How awesome..........


RE: Stringer followed with...
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2007 11:11:02 AM , Rating: 2
......HUH?

I think you thought a little too hard.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By crystal clear on 10/30/2007 11:44:06 AM , Rating: 2
Oh just kidding - like you comment


RE: Stringer followed with...
By crystal clear on 10/30/2007 11:47:16 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry Add "r" to the you-to read "your comment".


RE: Stringer followed with...
By MonkeyPaw on 10/30/2007 12:07:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
PS3 is after a different audience and it can be whatever it wants...


It's a shame it didn't want to be something most people could afford.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 12:10:57 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think it is really an issue of what people can afford. It isn't that far off from other consoles. The big problem is lack of games, and given a few months, that should be fixed.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 1:07:28 PM , Rating: 2
This will be the case once the $399 model is out (more or less)... $250 is a much better price point for a gaming console though, Nintendo is living proof...


RE: Stringer followed with...
By tedrodai on 10/30/2007 2:37:09 PM , Rating: 2
You obviously can't deny the power of great games, as we DT readers can all gleam from the recent Halo 3 news. But, frankly, it really is an issue of what my family (feels like we) can afford.

Not to say that I exemplify the market that continues to let the PS3 sit on store shelves, but I am a 24-year-old male that grew up playing a lot of console video games. Yet even with a decent salaray (computer engineer) in a low-cost-of-living area, my family's budget was the chief deciding factor in choosing our latest console. We own a Wii, not because of the name-brand, but because it is a cheaper system that still provides fun (and on avg, cheaper) games. My PC is a sunk cost, and I'm not about to replace it with a PS3, so it will continue to be the eye-candy gaming machine around the house.

Once our kids are older and we've had time to build a stronger financial foundation, I'm sure the price won't be as much of an issue. However, I am not the only consumer that has been put-off entirely by next-gen console prices. As someone who was truly looking forward to the release of the PS3 during my college years, I never got the the point of evaluating the games.

I am but one example of a hardcore gamer that was not included in their target audience, but forget the details: there are many consumers who have not bought a PS3 because of the price. I'm not preaching what people should base their game console desicions on, but rather the fact that a sale lost is a sale lost. I would own a PS3 today, for their awesome games in the future, if it were cheaper.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 4:16:13 PM , Rating: 2
I did not present my entire point of view on the subject in the post.

Yes, I do think price is a factor, but I think the price is becoming a smaller and smaller factor in consoles. With the current pricing (including the 399 ps3), I think the prices are close enough for people to look beyond just the price when evaluating which console to buy.

Whereas 6 months ago people simply said no to the PS3 because it cost $250 (or $300) more than the (already expensive) 360, the pricing has changed greatly since then. Now you will be able to buy the 40GB PS3 for $120 more than the core 360, and just $50 more than the 360 premium.

I believe people will look more and more into the game library and features of the consoles, instead of simply the price.

Again, there will still be some people that will not buy a $399 PS3 because of the price, and instead they will purchase the $350 Xbox. However, the number of people who will make this decision soley because of the price is hugely smaller than 6 months ago.

The big thing that will hold Sony back in sales now will be the games, and not the price. Sure, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, and expecially Ratchet & Clank are great games, but that's just 3 games. The 360 has so many more. Yeah, Sony will be releasing more games soon, however, the exclusives that are potential system sellers won't be coming out until next year. I don't expect to see the PS3 to outsell the 360 until then.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 4:45:37 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure you're taking the $270 x-box arcade system into account which is great for just playing games no frills... However with x-box you still have to contend with the higher price per game for AAA titles.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 5:18:44 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm.. I thought the arcade system retailed for 279. If that is not the case, than the 40GB PS3 costs $130 more (and not $120 as I stated above). I tried to include it, but it appears I missed the price by $10.

Yes, that is still a significant price difference, but I do think that many "hardcore" gamers (as the posted above labeled himself) would not consider the Arcade due to lack of a hard drive.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 5:50:13 PM , Rating: 2
You may be right about the price, honestly I don't exactly remember the price and did miss your stated difference... Either way, the difference is significant... And frankly if you're going to consider a Wii for your family based on price why wouldn't you consider an Arcade? I could see being swayed by the Wii in the end based on game play and average price per AAA title.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Murst on 10/30/2007 6:09:40 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think MS or Sony can compete with the Wii at the moment, and the reason isn't really the price.

I guess I don't really look at the Wii as an alternative to the PS3 or the Xbox. Sure, I guess for some people it will be. But the majority of hardcore gamers are going to own a 360 or a PS3 (with time, they'll most likely own both). The Wii targets a different audience than the 360 and PS3. This audience is much, much larger than the audience that MS or Sony targets.

In terms of the hardcore gamer, I don't think Nintendo has done much at all since the Gamecube. I think both systems are pretty much equal in their appeal to the hardcore gamer. However, Nintendo has managed to expand their market to people who would have never considered buying a "next-gen" console before, and I think that's the huge reason behind Nintendo's success.


RE: Stringer followed with...
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 11:42:12 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is that game consoles are a business propasition that needs to make money... Not just for console manufactures, but for game studio's as well... Microsoft realizes this hench arcade, at this point there's not much they can do about the average price of a AAA title.

The problem I'm seeing is market penetration, imagine a world where Nintendo owns (throwing out a number) 70% of all house holds that have a game console... ID/Epic/Valve can sit back now and ignore Nintendo because they think their target audience is all on x-boxes and PS3's anyway... But if the numbers get to be so lopsided (like then may well considering sales trends) how long before "serious" game studio's decide they can't afford to not release a "seriouse game" on Wii? And imagine if they get a huge volume of sales on Wii? How long before they start deciding that they need to focus their efforts on that?

I like the x-box 360 because not only does it offer beautiful graphics and everything that you would expect in a "next gen" game console, but it also has great MM extender functions. Fortunetly for me I'm in a position where I can afford one, I have a good job, I have a roommate, and I don't have a family (unlike the OP). But if I did I can guarontee you I would not own and x-box 360 or an HD-TV... My priorities would be else where, with my family where they belong.... Like the OP I see the Wii being the likely choice. Why? First of all cost, it's afforable that helps... While the Wii doesn't have "next gen" graphics, it does offer a next gen gameing experience in the form of the control system, VC and extended functions (web/news/weather). And to be perfectly honest, I would be more than happy to buy an FPS and play it on Wii if that's the console I could afford (I might anyway due to the uniquness of the control system)...

So at least from my perspective, the Wii is a direct competitor of the x-box and PS3, and if sony/microsoft sit around ignoring the family they may find that their "hardcore" design was their acheles heal.


Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By crystal clear on 10/30/2007 12:20:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Stringer identified the price of the PlayStation 3 as a major issue, promising that it’ll be something that will be studied and refined.


I think the PS3 should be redefined to enable it sell like the PS2-Simple

Give the buyer a the original PS3 60 gb minus the Blue Ray player.

You will see a massive price reduction due to lower manufacturing cost.

Sony can sell the B.R. player seperately as an ADD ON drive for those interested.

What do you need in game console ?

Processing power + Graphics + compatibility + the rest -(less) the B.R. player .

The Blue Ray player not needed.

Take Blue Ray out of the PS3 & it will sell...




RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2007 12:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
Kinda hard to take out the Blu-ray drive when the games use it. As far as playing back the movies, they don't really spend anything extra to make it able to do that since the PS3s hardware is capable of doing the decoding. And I don't think Sony has to pay a license to itself for Blu-ray playback.


RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 1:11:48 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, yes it almost certainly does... Sony Computer Entertainment almost certainly pays a fee to blueray group just like everyone else, even if this money only ends up in Sony's pockets again (in a different division).


RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By FITCamaro on 10/30/2007 2:08:24 PM , Rating: 2
Point was the licensing isn't anything they have to care about so its not a cost they have to worry about removing.


RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By Locutus465 on 10/30/2007 2:41:12 PM , Rating: 2
Yes it is because it will be reflected in the financial reports of the division, unfortunetly life isn't as simple as "well hey, the company get's all the money so who cares?" in the corperate world (though IMO it should be, because really...), while I doubt the fees will break the PS3's back, in the end it is money that ends up on SCE(whatever) devision's expendatures...

Again, I'm not trying to say these fee's are killing the PS3 (particularly since I don't even know what they are), just that they are not unimportant to the PS3 as a whole (business wise).


RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By timmiser on 10/30/2007 5:41:21 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I think the real point is we don't know how that is being handled within Sony financially. It is pretty understandble that the PS3 gets a free ride as far as licensing goes. Companies don't always bill themsevles for services from other divisions. For example, if you work for Federal Express, you can send company material between offices overnight for free. There is no awb or billing being done because they realize the cost of keeping track of it is riduculously futile.


RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By Murst on 10/30/2007 12:34:05 PM , Rating: 2
Is your post meant to be a joke, cause it didn't seem funny.

BR is part of the PS3 spec. This can never change.


By crystal clear on 10/31/2007 5:31:43 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry for the mix up-portion of the comment of mine was mistakenly posted on D.T. by me-it was directed to somebody else-not forums etc.(copy paste mess up)

I have been experimenting on the PS3 for quite sometime.....

loaded Linux+Virtualization software on the PS3 to create virtual machine,virtual drives,creating interfaces to enable CD Rom free play, cloning,image files etc etc.

Needed help to write me codes etc from her....

Please ignore it.


RE: Take Blue Ray out of the PS3
By BrgMx5 on 10/30/2007 1:03:47 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the price was a problem at $600 and was talked about "ad nauseam", to the point that wathever price drops they introduce people will always look at them as expensive, because they are now predisposed to it.

So, it was a bad decision on the initial price, that will haunt them for some time to come.


Gamebox compared to a car?
By ChipDude on 10/30/2007 11:31:12 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe the whole PS3 debacle can be summed up simply.

Sony thought they were making a luxury car!

"If we fail, it is because we positioned PS3 as the Mercedes of the video game field. PS3 is after a different audience and it can be whatever it wants — a home server, game device, even a computer."

Hey Stringer all the boys just want a gamebox that can play fun and cool games and do it online with their buddies. BR is nice, fancy supercomputer is nice, but give me some games that are fun at a price I can afford.

Most buyers of PS3s are probably closer to desiring a Mustang or WRX the even comprehending a Mercedes. Clearly Stringer can't even appreciate target base.




RE: Gamebox compared to a car?
By Murst on 10/30/2007 12:13:17 PM , Rating: 2
I guess it all depends on where you live. I don't know anyone who wants a mustang or wrx, but I do know people who want a PS3. :)


RE: Gamebox compared to a car?
By timmiser on 10/30/2007 5:44:01 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately for Sony, you don't know enough people!


RE: Gamebox compared to a car?
By tedrodai on 10/30/2007 2:47:13 PM , Rating: 2
If it weren't ethically-questionable and so much trouble (mainly the 2nd), I'd create 3 more accounts to rate your post up to 5. =)

As it is, I've already posted, but I very much enjoyed your post.

+1


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By Lazlo Panaflex on 10/30/2007 11:42:29 AM , Rating: 2
Nice AC/DC reference, btw

Saw them @ the Spectrum in Philly back in '90 (Razor's Edge tour)...floor seating, ears were ringing for 2 days afterwards.... ;)




that means...
By DarthKojima on 10/31/2007 8:08:57 AM , Rating: 2
If sony is the mercedes.. Wii is the toyota am i ryt? and what about the 360?




Stupid sony.
By radzer0 on 11/1/2007 2:45:59 PM , Rating: 2
Sony needs to learn that people wont pay 2x the price for a item just because it says "SONY" on it.

If samsung put a big sheet of glass behind a lcd tv sony would be screwed on the XBR.

PS3 just did one of those major changes that microsoft has avoided with the hddvd built in idea. Everybody who owns a ps3 and has 4 remotes. Guess what, Lets go pay sony $60/each for new dual shock remotes.




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