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PlayStation 3 and Wii
But still sees PlayStation 3 as clear leader

While Nintendo fans across Europe and Oceania will be out looking for a Wii this week, Sony fans will have to wait patiently for PlayStation 3’s release in March. The Sydney Morning Herald speaks with Nic Foster, general manager for Sony Australia and New Zealand, about the waiting game the company’s loyalists must play.

Despite the delay, Foster doesn't believe this delay will have a significant impact on the PS3's position in the Australian market thanks to Sony’s console having far more uses than just as a gaming machine. “The Wii-type functionality is more just a sub-element of what the PlayStation 3 offers,” he said in an interview.

Foster then goes on to describe Nintendo’s product. “Wii is a core gaming device. It's a more fun, intuitive sort of product to pick up, where the PS3 is a broader entertainment solution; so you can have your fun, enjoyable gaming ... but then you have a whole suite of other applications ... such as Blu-ray media playback, the ability to access your music, access your photos and the interoperability with the PlayStation Portable.”

He then concludes that gamers who are looking for the complete experience will eventually own both devices. Given the tone of Sony leaders in Japan and America, the rather benevolent attitude expressed from Down Under comes as a bit of a surprise.

Make no mistake though; Sony in Australia still firmly believes its machine has a huge leg up on the Xbox 360 thanks to its inclusion of the Blu-ray drive – the very device that is causing the system’s short supply. Paul Holman of Sony Europe shared the same sentiment, saying that adding high-definition storage as a peripheral instead of out-of-the-box is a messy proposition.

The Nintendo Wii launches in Australia and New Zealand on December 7th and in most parts of Europe on December 8. The PlayStation 3 is expected in those territories in March 2007.



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Well
By aGreenAgent on 12/5/2006 11:10:07 AM , Rating: 1
They can talk about what a good value PS3 is all day, but I still don't have $600-$800 to blow on the console plus games. Although, I did have $300 for the Wii + TP.




RE: Well
By lufoxe on 12/5/2006 11:17:24 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
Although, I did have $300 for the Wii + TP.


This is going to sound retarded, but Wii and toilet paper?


RE: Well
By whistler on 12/5/2006 11:28:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is going to sound retarded, but Wii and toilet paper?


I'd assume he means Twilight Princess, but who knows :)


RE: Well
By othercents on 12/5/2006 11:35:06 AM , Rating: 3
I think he needs Toilet Paper for all the hours of playing Wii.


RE: Well
By AzureKevin on 12/5/2006 12:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
Haha! I was actually thinking the same thing for a second there. I mean, TP is synonymous with toilet paper; you can't help the fact that it pops in your mind right away.


RE: Well
By BladeVenom on 12/5/2006 4:05:04 PM , Rating: 5
TP could also mean Transvestite Prostitute. There's just some things the Wii can't do.


RE: Well
By dice1111 on 12/5/2006 5:03:15 PM , Rating: 2
The Wii is just Pre-mod as your TP is just Pre-Op...


RE: Well
By Tamale on 12/5/2006 11:41:20 AM , Rating: 5
TP = town portal of course


RE: Well
By AzureKevin on 12/5/2006 12:05:28 PM , Rating: 2
That's a good one too. Too many hours of Diablo II will do that to ya.


Extra features?
By BioRebel on 12/5/2006 11:25:18 AM , Rating: 2
The Wii can already access songs, pictures, and has connectability with the DS... Pretty much all it can't do is play DVD's/some other form of disc based video. And to be honest Blu-Ray still hasn't won.




RE: Extra features?
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/2006 1:15:21 PM , Rating: 2
After the relatively poor launch of the PS3, some analysts are already giving HD DVD the victory over Blu Ray. I think www.tomshardware.com had the article. If you ask me, it comes down to the price of the players and the movies available for them. The Lord of the Rings movies are coming to HD DVD, (but not to Blu Ray) which says a lot about where Hollywood believes the technology will go.


RE: Extra features?
By killerroach on 12/5/2006 1:32:50 PM , Rating: 2
I think that has more to do with Peter Jackson having control over how his movies are distributed, and the fact that he is working with Microsoft on the Halo movie. In all reality, neither Blu-Ray or HD-DVD have won yet, and it's highly unlikely that either will win anytime soon. Since most of us just use SDTV's still, what's the point?


RE: Extra features?
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/2006 2:11:31 PM , Rating: 1
You might want to get your facts straight.
"Microsoft attempted to secure financing from other studios, including Warner Bros and Paramount, to keep the project moving,[12] but production was officially halted and postponed on October 31 until additional backing could be found." Source: Wiki

You might want to note that NO ONE is working on the halo movie right now.


RE: Extra features?
By The Arete on 12/5/2006 2:21:44 PM , Rating: 2
Peter Jackson was the Director. Not the Producer for LOTR series. He really doesn't have a lot of say in distribution. Producers do have quite a bit of say though. Just my understanding of the Film Industry.

Good point though, The Blu Ray/HD-DVD war has yet to really take off. Personally I'm staving off from buying any of them till a winner is in sight. No point in blowing a few hundred when I don't have it.


RE: Extra features?
By rushfan2006 on 12/5/2006 3:19:14 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Peter Jackson was the Director. Not the Producer for LOTR series. He really doesn't have a lot of say in distribution. Producers do have quite a bit of say though. Just my understanding of the Film Industry.


You are correct. I am not sure how Peter Jackson was billed on the LOTR movies -- if he was just billed as the Director and that is it...there's about a 90% chance he has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the movies' distribution. Sole directors passion is making a great film -- they work with well respected producers and put their faith in them to make the best decisions on distribution deals (btw, producers do MUCH MUCH MUCH more than just distribution deals).

In fact what some people may be surprised to know often the producers do more in terms of volume of work on a film than the director does.

Another tid bit on this subject....Ever see films where the headline start is listed as "Executive Producer"? There is no set definition for what makes you an Exec producer, some stars do that merely to get extra billing credit for a project/movie....often though most big time stars that are also the Exec Producer means they put up a portion (and in extreme rare cases ALL) of the financing for the film project. Why would they put up their own money? Well this isn't hard to understand....when you are financing the film all your own -- gets who has all the influence on how the picture is made? Exactly....you do.

Then of course some stars just believe in their work so much that they finance it theirself to ensure it sees the silver screen.

Anyway..I got carried away but just wanted to share.


That just made my day!
By Le Québécois on 12/5/2006 11:54:17 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
Wii is a core gaming device. It's a more fun , intuitive sort of product to pick up


Yes that's it...hold it right there...no need to say more. Coming from the General manager of the PS3 in Australia...That...that just made my day.

More fun.

Who the hek is going out loud to say "hey, their product is more fun than our's". That's just amazing coming from Sony.

Not bashing on Sony at all here. It's just that, well, I can't belive what the guy just said.




RE: That just made my day!
By othercents on 12/5/2006 12:04:01 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, Sony knew that the Wii would be more fun thats why they copied the Wii-type functionality.

Other


RE: That just made my day!
By masher2 (blog) on 12/5/2006 12:40:41 PM , Rating: 2
> "Who the hek is going out loud to say "hey, their product is more fun than our's". That's just amazing coming from Sony..."

I suspect he was misquoted, and may have said, "its more of a fun, intuitive sort of product..."


RE: That just made my day!
By Le Québécois on 12/5/2006 12:55:06 PM , Rating: 2
I hope(for them) it is the case because if not Sony is trying to take the concept of marketing to a whole new level by saying thing like that.

Or should I say : A whole new weird level...


Waiting game!
By bobsmith1492 on 12/5/2006 11:04:02 AM , Rating: 5
Is "The Waiting Game" their most anticipated game for the platform?




RE: Waiting game!
By seamonkey79 on 12/5/2006 11:09:29 AM , Rating: 4
Better than any of their other launch titles, with the possible exception of "Will it Look Good With My Sony HiDef TV?" or "Can I Use HDMI and Get Good Sounds?"


Huh?
By Spivonious on 12/5/2006 11:15:38 AM , Rating: 5
They say the Wii is more fun and enjoyable.

They then say that while the PS3 has fun games, it also plays blu-ray movies, accesses music and photos, and has interoperability with the PSP.

blu-ray: yes it's PS3's standout feature. Practical? No.
music and photos: the Wii can do this too.
PSP: the Wii can see the DS.

So basically, I'm paying over twice as much for a blu-ray player that also happens to play games. This is not the attitude I'd expect for a video game console.




RE: Huh?
By othercents on 12/5/2006 11:33:59 AM , Rating: 3
Yes your paying twice as much for a machine that is not as enjoyable and fun as the Wii.

Plus I would think that compatibility with the PSP would be a negative effect than a positive one. Especially since the DS owns more of the market share.

Other


Very Telling Story
By othercents on 12/5/2006 11:27:19 AM , Rating: 4
All the news that I have seen has been giving Wii a bunch of accolades and Sony is nowhere to be found. Everything I have read on Sony lately has been negative. From HD issues to PS2 games not working. The only way for Sony to get into the press is to make their own.

Wii is the most complete gaming system in my eyes. Who cares if the PS3 can butter your toast. I don't want toast and jam. I want a system that I can have fun playing. Personally after the oooh and aaah of the graphics on the PS3 is over (which happens about 2 minutes into the game) it just becomes another console just the the old ones. However the Wii might not have the oooh and aaah of the graphics, but does have the continuous fun addictive game play which is what I want.

Other

Other




RE: Very Telling Story
By epsilonparadox on 12/5/2006 1:33:08 PM , Rating: 3
You're wrong....

PS3 doesn't butter toast. It grills your burgers.


Wii is fun
By zombiexl on 12/5/2006 11:50:44 AM , Rating: 5
I've played the Wii, and I have one sitting in the closet for my son for Xmas. It is a fun system.

I can't say the same for the PS3 becuase every one in every store I've been to with a PS3 kiosk is broken. I'm not sure if its a heat issue or some other problem, but it doesn't look good.





RE: Wii is fun
By JDub02 on 12/5/2006 3:48:12 PM , Rating: 2
I'm noticing the same thing. Went to Wal-Mart to check out the PS3 and it wouldn't work. The guy there tried to get it back with no luck.

I guess it's better that way, since the wife won't let me spend the $$ on it anyway.


I can see the cartoon now.
By Dfere on 12/5/2006 2:19:28 PM , Rating: 2
Sony reaches down, smiles, and ruffles the hair on WII's little head.




RE: I can see the cartoon now.
By IceTron on 12/5/2006 3:06:17 PM , Rating: 2
Nintendo then flips off Sony and kicks him in the groin.


RE: I can see the cartoon now.
By jtesoro on 12/6/2006 2:34:11 AM , Rating: 2
Nah, little Nintendo will have his left hand holding a bundle of money and his right hand will be furtively returning Sony's wallet which he just picked.


Nice try...
By therealnickdanger on 12/5/2006 11:22:23 AM , Rating: 5
This is just a ploy by Sony to "buddy up" to the hordes of Wii owners. Sony knows that a lot of Wii owners also own other game systems (specifically Xbox360s) and they figure if they can throw a few compliments to Wii owners, maybe they will give the PS3 a chance. The enemy of my enemy... is a sales opportunity?




I played Wii last night
By KraftyOne on 12/5/2006 12:25:28 PM , Rating: 2
I got to play Excite Truck last night at the store. Its pretty fun. It was a different experience...makes you change how you think a little bit. I was so used to pushing buttons for everything that it took me a few minutes to stop hitting them and just move the controller. One thing that I noticed with Excite Truck was that I tended to hold my right hand still and "pivot" with my left rather than move both hands like a steering wheel...but it was still pretty intuitive once I quit pushing unnecessary buttons.

The PS3 kiosk was broken at that store. At Target they had a PS3 with basketball on it. I watched some other guy play it for a few minutes. It has incredible graphics...funny thing was, when he was done playing he asked me if I wanted to try it and I didn't really even want to... it didn't hold any appeal for me beyond being pretty (like a really hot girl with no personality or brains... fun for a few minutes to look at or dance with...not something you'd want to spend significant time with).

Anyway, I'm not even a console fan...last one I owned was the original Nintendo... but I will probably get a Wii eventually. I have a great big (non-HD) TV that it would look great on.




RE: I played Wii last night
By Russell on 12/5/2006 7:21:51 PM , Rating: 2
I saw the same basketball game (I'm assuming there's only one for the PS3 right now) in a local EB on the weekend. I thought the graphics were incredibly unimpressive. It didn't look photorealistic, it looked glossy and uninteresting.

But I also dislike sports games, so perhaps I am biased. It IS certainly better than various sports games on last-gen consoles. Though I think the 360 sports games I've seen look better thus far.


Hmm
By nombrecinq on 12/5/2006 12:37:30 PM , Rating: 2
Well now that Sony has given it a thumbs up, I'll consider buying one. I wish I had Sony around all the time to help me pick out socks in the morning, what to eat for lunch, etc.




RE: Hmm
By msva124 on 12/5/2006 1:05:55 PM , Rating: 2
I had to take a dump last night, but sony tech support hadn't yet replied to my email asking permission. As of now I'm still holding it in.


where to get a Wii?
By msva124 on 12/5/2006 2:22:04 PM , Rating: 2
Sort of off topic- does anyone know where it's possible to get a Wii besides Ebay? Like are there some towns where you can just go into a store and buy one? Or can you back order it from the Nintendo website?




RE: where to get a Wii?
By jkresh on 12/5/2006 4:41:43 PM , Rating: 2
give it a week or so and it should be available (though it may not be easy to pick up until after Christmas). I bought one of of ebay with an extra wii mote, nunchuck, Zelda and excite truck for $20 over list (including tax) so if you look hard enough you can get a good deal off of ebay if you don't want to wait.


----Banner----
By ted61 on 12/5/2006 12:18:05 PM , Rating: 1
I hope the banner on the bottom of the page does not change any time soon. I find it rather ironic.

In case the banner changes, it is a play station add.




RE: ----Banner----
By Russell on 12/5/2006 7:23:36 PM , Rating: 2
Hurray for ad-blocking!


Writing on the wall
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/2006 1:22:42 PM , Rating: 2
This is pretty much Sony bowing to Nintendo, acknowledging that their product just won't be able to do what the PS2 did. Sony's big thing has been that the PS3 will replace the need for a PC, that it will merge the technology of home console and PC. My question is, does anyone really WANT to do that? I can see combining a phone and a pda and making a blackberry because you carry those around with you and having just one would make things convenient. But I don't carry my computer around everywhere, and my home console stays just that...AT HOME. Why are they trying to integrate technologies we don't want integrated? Sorry Sony, you've lost your touch.




RE: Writing on the wall
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/2006 1:25:54 PM , Rating: 1
...go ahead and post a reply michael1980, I know you can't resist staying away from pro Wii articles...


Buy! Buy! Buy!
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/2006 2:00:04 PM , Rating: 1
"Nintendo fans should already know that the lucrative stock has seen a 91% increase this past year due in no small part to strong sales of the dual-screened handheld and pre-launch hype surrounding the Wii." -Source: www.ign.com

Goddamn I should have bought some Nintendo stock last year!




RE: Buy! Buy! Buy!
By Russell on 12/5/2006 7:22:44 PM , Rating: 2
I did.

If I sold now, I'd make a bundle.


PS3 vs Wii
By msva124 on 12/5/2006 12:29:14 PM , Rating: 2
The buzz for Wii is huge right now. I'm sure PS3 will rebound once it gets some must-have games, but for the moment things are not looking good.




Messy proposition?
By Kefner on 12/5/2006 1:28:03 PM , Rating: 2
Forcing Blu-ray down every bodies throat is a very messy proposition!




Dedication
By Lokiarmos on 12/5/2006 4:18:38 PM , Rating: 2
Wii is a core gaming device

Yes and thats what i want, i buy console for the fact that i can play games without it falling over, having hardware compatability issues or other software stuffing every thing around.

I don't need a DVD player, or a music box, or a picture manager in my console. If i want to watch DVDs then i use a DVD player. If i want Blu Ray or HD i'll buy a player.

I really do hate this current mentality of lets through everything together and do it half baked. A dedicated machine is much better then a all in one. (some exception do count)




Sony's attempt...
By MDme on 12/5/2006 5:20:54 PM , Rating: 2
I think this is an attempt to convince the gamers out there to get a PSWii. Remember, MS did a similar thing saying that instead of getting a PS3, for the same amount you can get a 360 and a Wii. So I think Sony is sending a message out there to go for a PSWii, rather than a Wii60.




By mcturkey on 12/6/2006 12:29:50 AM , Rating: 2
If I purchase the PS3 and use it for all these things other than gaming, Sony will not make much (if any) money from me. In fact, they will lose money. If they must sell all sorts of games and accessories in order to break even on the console, why do they somehow think that all this other stuff is a good thing?




Fine I'm Done.
By michal1980 on 12/5/06, Rating: -1
RE: Fine I'm Done.
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/2006 1:54:21 PM , Rating: 1
"RE: Fine I'm Done."

Good! Leave! Find another forum!


RE: Fine I'm Done.
By msva124 on 12/5/2006 1:58:42 PM , Rating: 5
He's right guys. We should like everything equally, regardless of whether we like it or not.


RE: Fine I'm Done.
By wuZheng on 12/5/2006 2:02:40 PM , Rating: 3
You do realize... you're the only one who stands out as a flamer/hater here... These so-called "Wii-Fan Club/PS3 Haters United" you speak of just happen have the same attitude you have against the Wii, but do they use sarcastic assumptions as to what you utilize your gaming devices for? A lot of us "Wii Fanboys" don't like you not because you like the PS3, its because you're a douchebag flamer. Now grow up and get over the fact that not everyone agrees with you.


RE: Fine I'm Done.
By michal1980 on 12/5/06, Rating: -1
RE: Fine I'm Done.
By obstreperous on 12/6/2006 3:37:44 AM , Rating: 2
You do go on and on about this being an anti-Sony site, and it's getting somewhat tiresome, so most DT's hate Sony - so what? - deal with it, and move on.


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