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Chipmaker also announces new Gobi modem that supports all possible varieties of 40 MHz, 2-band aggregation or below

With large smartphones like the Nokia Oyj. (HEX:NOK1V) Lumia 929, the Sony Corp. (TYO:6758) Xperia Z1, the LG Electronics, Inc. (KSC:066570) G2, and the Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) Galaxy Note III flocking to Qualcomm Inc.'s (QCOMquad-core Snapdragon 800, tablet makers are thirsting for a little something extra.
Now Qualcomm has delivered, offering up a super-powered ARM chip dubbed the Snapdragon 805.  The title is deceptive as this chip packs enough improvements first to be almost a generational advance over the Snapdragon 800.
First, it packs the Adreno 420 -- a brand new GPU capable of supporting 4K ultra-high-definition video.  The Adreno 420 hardware accelerates 4K video capture via the Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) codec, and playback via the 4K HEVC (H.265) decode codec.
Panasonic Toughpad
Some tablets are starting to get 4K displays -- now Qualcomm's giving them the power to pair that display with 4K picture/video-taking. [Image Source: Panasonic]

Second, Qualcomm integrates feedback from the gyroscope sensor -- a sensor found in virtually all modern smartphones -- to implement a form of hardware accelerated image stabilization.  Qualcomm claims this enhancement is an industry first and it should be able to be combined with optical stabilization techniques to produce even more impressive results.
Snapdragon 800
Snapdragon's new chip packs a unique form of image stabilization, utilizing the gyroscope.

The signal processor can handle Gigapixels per second (Gpixel/s) of camera or video throughput.  Image quality at 4K will of course be somewhat limited by the size of the camera sensor used (with many OEMs, e.g. Samsung opting for undersized sensors), but between the GPU and signal processors onboard the Snapdragon 805, the processing side shouldn't be an issue.

Snapdragon 805

Third, there's a brand new core architecture -- the Krait 450 -- which is a modest step up from the Krait 400.  The processor bumps clock speeds to 2.5 GHz, up from the high of 2.3 GHz with the Krait 400-based Snapdragon 800.  The processor talks to the memory at 25.6 GB/s (12.8 GB/s per channel) -- allowing it to use upcoming DDR3L 1600 MHz chips.

And there's a new Gobi MDM9x35 modem, which supports a broad spectrum of 3G (ex. CDMA, GSM), advanced 3G (e.g HSPA+), LTE, and advanced LTE (2x2 MIMO carrier aggregation) offerings at various frequencies.  The Gobi MDM9x35 supports LTE at speeds up to 300 Mbps (Megabits per second).  OEM integrators can also opt for a slightly cheaper variant that features the Gobi MDM9x25, a Qualcomm modem released in February which supports a lower end implementations of carrier aggregations "only" compatible for speeds up to 150 Mbps.

Carrier aggregation

Carrier aggregation is a fascinating technology that promises to speed up user downloads on mobile devices dramatically, carrier infrastructure allowing.  Previously smartphones typically ferried voice and data off a single antenna tuned to a narrow band of spectrum.  With carrier aggregation a second antenna is added and can be tuned to a second band to split cellular traffic, giving greater throughput.  The new Gobi MDM9x35 modem is particularly special as it makes a pretty incredible claim to support all possible 2-band combinations for 20 MHz (40 MHz cumulative) bands and below, in terms of band combinations approved by the 3GPP standards organization.

Last, but not least, the entire chip is built on a 20 nm HPm (high performance mobile) process by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Comp., Ltd. (TPE:2330) (TSMC).  That should offering big power and heat savings over the 28 nm process used in the Snapdragon 200/400/600/800 Series chips.

Sources: Qualcomm [1], [2]

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I have a bad feeling
By greenchinesepuck on 11/20/2013 2:01:53 PM , Rating: 1
that Apple will deliver 12" or even 13" iPad first, then others will follow

more food for Tony boasting, we'll see tho... but I think Apple will deliver first 4K 12" or 13" tablet

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 3:09:01 PM , Rating: 2
They don't have the highest res phone, they don't have the highest res tablet, and they don't have the highest res laptop... So yes, obviously they will be the first.

Pfapff. Who even cares.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By greenchinesepuck on 11/20/2013 3:25:48 PM , Rating: 1
they were the first to introduce highest res phone, tablet and laptop, but don't let the facts to distract you

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 3:51:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, they were... But today they are not leading in those categories. They may or may be the first. If you want to base it on where they were vs. the competition in 2011, then yes, it looks like they will be first. If you look at the competition today, they are following, not leading.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By charleski on 11/21/2013 9:16:11 AM , Rating: 2
Look up the Sony/Ericsson X-1: a phone with over 300dpi that was on the market over 18 months before the iPhone 4.

Apple first to release a 'retina' phone? No.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/21/2013 1:32:16 PM , Rating: 2
Stop! you're damaging the reality distortion field. LOL.

nevermind, go ahead. I completely forgot that they don't care about facts. Facts are completely irrelevant because Apple invented everything because they say so.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By web2dot0 on 11/20/13, Rating: -1
RE: I have a bad feeling
By Cheesew1z69 on 11/20/2013 3:40:20 PM , Rating: 4
If you want to be a Android nut hugger, at least pretend to be objective.
Says the Apple nut sucker...

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 3:49:13 PM , Rating: 3

Who revolutionize the Smartphone industry? BB and Handspring
Who came out with Retina displays first ? iPhone 4 (true , but they are no longer even close to the highest res. They are falling behind)
Who came out with the first successful tablet implementation ? iPad (true , but they are no longer even close to the highest res. They are falling behind)

My point was that Apple isnt leading in ANY product category right now when it comes to resolution. They may be the first with a 12-13 inch 4k (opr close to 4K ) tablet. They may not.

You are basing a guess on the 2011 retina screens on iPhone and iPad and not the status of the competition today.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By menting on 11/20/2013 5:53:41 PM , Rating: 2
I'm going to say Google and allies revolutionized the smartphone industry. Sure Apple kicked off the arms race in smartphones, but it wasn't until Android came out that suddenly the masses could afford it (especially 3rd world countries).

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 8:32:40 PM , Rating: 2
Good point, but regardless of who did what when, here is what I care about... Who makes the best smartphone for me today .

RE: I have a bad feeling
By sixteenornumber on 11/21/2013 12:04:06 AM , Rating: 2
This is all good and well but can it play Kerbal?

RE: I have a bad feeling
By Mitch101 on 11/20/2013 5:19:15 PM , Rating: 5
You mean the second 4k tablet? Note the windows logo on the 4k tablet image in the article.

Toughpad 4K Windows 8 Tablet With 9.8 Megapixel Screen

RE: I have a bad feeling
By Mitch101 on 11/20/2013 5:21:20 PM , Rating: 2
Product Page: The World's Only 4K Tablet

1080p is fine. But when you need the ultimate clarity for detailed images and video, the new Panasonic Toughpad™ 4K Tablet offers an impressive four times the resolution of a 1080p display. And, with Windows® 8.1 Pro, it surpasses ordinary tablets by harnessing the processing power of a desktop. Add to that an unprecedented level of precision: The optical natural hand writing pen option offers 2,048 levels of pressure sensitivity and accuracy to the pixel level.

See detail like never before. Every zoom, every swipe, every millimeter you draw is an entirely new experience. What will you discover? What innovations await? Hold it in your hands and experience the power of 9.8 million pixels on a 20” canvas. With the new Toughpad 4K Tablet, imagination becomes reality.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 5:40:31 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... I forgot about that one. I saw a press release somewhere recently... But that isn't how Apple fans see things.

If Apple releases the same thing in a new size, like 12-13 inches, it will be a first. REVOLUTIONARY! The first 4k tablet in THIS size. Apple is amazing.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By Mitch101 on 11/20/2013 5:53:50 PM , Rating: 2
Same here I saw the image and said that's a Windows tablet I read about somewhere else.

Most users are in the dark to begin with on tech and a lot of Apple users subscribe and get all their info from Apple and rarely from other sources. They are susceptible to what Apple tells them. Apple talks to them on their level of tech so in their world Apple is first with everything.

Subscribe to an Android forum and you get tech info on their level the same goes to Windows and Linux users. I think people subscribe to their technical comfort level.

Its smart marketing on Apple's part they own advertising themselves from top to bottom.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By shabby on 11/20/2013 11:13:59 PM , Rating: 2
Using apple logic they will first release a 12-13" ipad with a 2k screen and a year later update it to a magical 4k screen.

RE: I have a bad feeling
By retrospooty on 11/21/2013 7:44:20 AM , Rating: 2

RE: I have a bad feeling
By Solandri on 11/21/2013 4:38:00 AM , Rating: 2
Toshiba already put out a 13" tablet out a year ago. It's no longer available so doesn't seem to have sold that well.

Samsung's 12" or 13" tablet is already through FCC certification.

Personally I think ~12" is the optimal size for a tablet. A letter-sized sheet of paper with 3/4" margins has a 11.6" diagonal. I used to have a 12.1" tablet PC and its screen was almost a perfect substitute for a sheet of paper. The current 9.7" (iPad) and 10.1" (Android) tablets are a concession to price and weight due to the limits of current technology. As these devices get cheaper and lighter, it makes sense to enlarge them to match the size that a century of paper use has decided is optimal for viewing something held in your hand.

Wholly crap!
By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 12:38:26 PM , Rating: 2
The Adreno 420 in this puppy is supposed to be 40% faster than the 330. The 330 is already insanely fast.

RE: Wholly crap!
By killerroach on 11/20/2013 9:40:55 PM , Rating: 2
Seeing as implementations of the Adreno 330 go up to about 160 GFLOPS, 40% beyond that would be putting it into PS3/X360 territory.

Who cares about 4k or 300mbps right now?
By TheJian on 11/20/2013 9:17:25 PM , Rating: 2
There are very few networks running 150, which NV demoed in software ages ago also. I'm also not sure we need to hit caps at 2x the speed we already do which is already ridiculous.
If these guys are telling the truth NV can do h265 on T4 (not that I care) and also in 4K. But without a 4k TV for probably years, I don't know why I care about this or the modem speed. I don't want to pay for either feature until I can use it. I'd rather have all that was dedicated to these features spent on gpu power and R&D, which with current models is the only thing pushing the need for more perf.

A quad A15 is already very powerful and will needs leaps and bounds above this to run REAL apps (adobe etc are MILES and many shrinks away). So spend most of your time making my games look better or run faster. Until data is UNLIMITED for $20 I have no need for a fast modem in my phone/tablet. How much extra battery will this modem take? I already see them saying "will allow thinner" blah blah. Let me know when you start making them THICKER and maybe I'll be interested.

By retrospooty on 11/20/2013 9:42:12 PM , Rating: 2
It's still the fastest mobile chip ever created. Even if it has too many features that you might not use it probably wasn't specifically made for you.

No way!?!?
By One43637 on 11/20/2013 1:12:14 PM , Rating: 3
The Adreno 420 hardware accelerates 4K video capture via the Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) codec, and playback via the 4K HEVC (H.265) decode codec.

So awesome HQV!

Sarcasm aside, wtf is that?

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