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Skype joins Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, among other companies to censor material for the Chinese government

Skype is the latest company that will agree to censor material to ensure that it will be allowed to operate in the country.  The company admitted to filtering certain words in text messages, including "Falun Gong" and "Dalai Lama," according to the Financial Times.  China is one of Skype's biggest markets, so the public announcement is not too shocking.  The announcement from Skype comes at a time when China is defending its right to police the Internet, and companies are under heavy fire for agreeing so quickly to censor material.  According to the Financial Times:

He claimed that compliance with Chinese censorship was no different from obeying rules governing business in western countries. China, along with the US and Germany, is one of Skype’s three biggest markets in terms of active users of its free telephony service, which routes encrypted calls between computers via the internet.

Currently, US companies like Yahoo, Google and Microsoft censor material to comply with the Chinese government's demands.


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anyways
By Wwhat on 4/20/2006 11:47:03 PM , Rating: 2
I uninstalled skype, it's just unacceptable to have a chat client that would censor my conversations.




RE: anyways
By Milliamp on 4/21/2006 12:56:44 AM , Rating: 2
Wwhat sat down with his "Made in China" keyboard and cobbled together:

"I uninstalled skype, it's just unacceptable to have a chat client that would censor my conversations."

While you are at it, why not stop buying "Made in China" products like most of the stuff you probably own?


RE: anyways
By The Cheeba on 4/21/2006 2:00:57 AM , Rating: 1
Indirectly, helping Chinese citizens make money by buying their products helps stop oppression. Censoring them does not.


RE: anyways
By mircea on 4/21/2006 2:57:58 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah right! Paying $50 for someone in china got only 8c for making it really helps him. Since you are soo much pro human rights why not buy everything made in china only in a convention that the chinese worker recieves the right amount of pay for his work.
I am romanian!


RE: anyways
By Wwhat on 4/21/2006 12:47:28 PM , Rating: 2
Great, I bought stuff made in china, so now I can also get rid of human rights and join in the abuse, perfect logic, works for bush after all.
It's especially funny coming from a romanian, the country where they replaced a communist dictator with a non-communist dictator I hear, you people seem to have your finger on logic and sensible behavior alright, ha.



RE: anyways
By mircea on 4/21/2006 4:41:18 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah go to personal atacks why not.
All I was saying is that buying chinese built products doesn't help them one bit since all the profit goes to the big corporate that employs them. Maybe you are working with/in a the big corporation and that's why you jumped on me??
The way I see it if a company sells a product at more than 10 times the price to bring it on the shelf they are either selling the most wanted product on the planet and can charge wathever they like, or they are screwing (spell??) someone in the manufacturing process. And I know that thechnology needs to recover the R&D investement, but there are tons of other stuff manufactured in China that need just to be molded, asambled and sold.
And I think it's imposible to even try to not have one single product made in China. But that doesn't mean we help the chinese worker.


RE: anyways
By Wwhat on 4/22/2006 1:27:28 PM , Rating: 2
All this has nothing to do with a chat client censoring people's communication.
There is no earthly reason for ebay to filter a software-only product like skype to support chinese supression, they can just host the servers and clientdownload on their US or elsewhere site and say goto hell china (or gonzales or whoever asks them to censor personal chat).
As for the 'personal' attack, I attacked your country, and you brough up your country, besides that I admit freely that my country sucks ass too and its government I'm sure loves the idea of censoring chat once they can get away with it.
It's up to us to stop the people who would support such efforts and not go attack eachother because we bough a product made in china, yes the wages are low and western companies are unfairly exploiting them, that doesn't mean we should help them to be censored to boot does it.
And no I do not work for a big corperation, and in fact I could not do so.


It is not my place
By Milliamp on 4/20/2006 5:02:22 PM , Rating: 2
These companies are just following local law, they can lobby to chnage those laws but there is very little they can do to stand in the way of them.

China: Give us the data for userx.
US Co: No.
China: OK, get out of China then.

So the only real way for them to stand up to China is to just go elsewhere and I don't see them or any other US companies doing that.

But I just don't get how so of my fellow Americans feel they have a right to tell China how to govern their people.




RE: It is not my place
By Sager on 4/20/2006 5:11:17 PM , Rating: 2
They did it to South Africa...


RE: It is not my place
By alcalde on 4/20/2006 7:55:03 PM , Rating: 2
Your fellow Americans declared in a document called the "Declaration Of Independence" that it was SELF-EVIDENT that all people have certain INALIENABLE rights, including the right to LIBERTY. Consequently, your fellow Americans believe that China has no right to "govern their people", but that it is, rather the SELF-EVIDENT (meaning, everyone that exists realizes it, including you) right of the people to govern China. By the very definition of the beliefs that gave rise to this nation, Americans do not recognize the right of a government to impose itself on a people, and do not recognize the existence of any such government that does not derive its power from the consent of the governed.



RE: It is not my place
By DRUGGDEELER on 4/22/2006 3:45:31 AM , Rating: 2
Except cases in which governments make available goods at a cheap price assembled by some worker at slave wages.


RE: It is not my place
By Wwhat on 4/20/2006 11:43:21 PM , Rating: 2
So if it was 1940 it would be ok for skype and google to report jews for extermination? it's local rules after all what can they do...
I think the 'local law' argument is ridiculous when you speak about crimes against basic rights of humans.
CEO's have responsibilities to their fellow man too.


Chinese are smart
By Cunthor01 on 4/20/2006 5:36:59 PM , Rating: 3
They will figure a way out to get around the censorship. Just like in the days of napster we would spell "acilllatem" instead of metallica. Or pr0n instead of... well you get the idea.




RE: Chinese are smart
By Razor Crusade on 4/20/2006 5:42:21 PM , Rating: 2
So have you heard about this Dolly Llama guy?


RE: Chinese are smart
By Hypernova on 4/20/2006 6:36:55 PM , Rating: 2
Dolly the Lama? (wow it actually makes sense)


RE: Chinese are smart
By AaronAxvig on 4/20/2006 10:47:02 PM , Rating: 2
Dolly was a sheep, idiots. :)


wELL
By GhandiInstinct on 4/20/2006 4:34:31 PM , Rating: 1
Don't believe me but, mass censorship is a small step towards a Utopia.

Good job China, we at Budweiser salute you! Communism Rules! *Go Commies!* - Voice




RE: wELL
By The Cheeba on 4/20/2006 4:36:00 PM , Rating: 1
Ah the gilden cage argument. Enjoy that!


RE: wELL
By tuteja1986 on 4/20/2006 5:48:30 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder what they will do to senior the Olympic or Bad news from leaking with photographic evidence of things like brutal death camp for black market organ selling.


re:
By jonathan riley on 4/21/2006 10:53:02 AM , Rating: 2
a depressing piece of news.  i hope the web bites the commies hard.




3 messages and all clear so far...
By Sager on 4/20/2006 4:58:48 PM , Rating: 1
How quickly until we see the 'You ignorant amerikkkans, you are being censeored and controlled and i have been to china and its better than amerikkka and you only think you are free because you are stupid. All europe is with me. ANd don;t flame me because I have been to disneland and have a girlfriend from new jersey' messages?





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