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64GB 1.8" UATA 5000 SSD and 64GB 2.5" SATA 5000 SSD
SanDisk doubles the capacity of its solid-state disks

SanDisk has had its share of the solid-state disk (SSD) limelight for the first half of 2007. In January, the company announced a 1.8" 32GB SSD for notebooks computers. In March, the company introduced another 32GB offering -- this time in a 2.5" form-factor. The next month, Dell offered the 1.8" SanDisk UATA 5000 in its Latitude D420 and Latitude D620 ATG semi-rugged notebooks.

Today, SanDisk is grabbing headlines again with its 64GB 1.8" UATA 5000 SSD and 64GB 2.5" SATA 5000 SSD. The SSDs offer a MTBF of 2 million hours, average access speeds of 0.11 milliseconds and average read speeds of 67MB/sec. Both SSDs consume just 0.4 watts while at idle and 1.0 watt when in active operation.

"Laptop manufacturers have requested more memory capacity for systems that use the Microsoft Vista platform, which can require a number of preloaded accessories and security suites," said SanDisk director of SSD product marketing Doreet Oren. "Also, there is interest in developing laptops for gaming, and the SSD is well-suited for the performance and memory requirements of those users. Thus, by offering greater capacities on our SSD products, we are making our products more appealing to a wider customer base."

SanDisk will ship engineering samples of its 64GB 1.8" UATA 5000 SSD and 64GB 2.5" SATA 5000 SSD during the third quarter while regular production is due to begin by the end of the year.

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I'll buy my first SSD drive when...
By Duwelon on 6/4/2007 9:22:40 PM , Rating: 2
Someone offers one with 64GB or more for no more than $2.00 a GB.

By Brandon Hill on 6/4/2007 9:27:46 PM , Rating: 5
I guess I'll see you back here in about 4+ years :)

RE: I'll buy my first SSD drive when...
By PandaBear on 6/4/2007 9:37:29 PM , Rating: 4
spot price is about $16 per 2GB right now just in the NAND alone.

By ricera10 on 6/4/2007 9:45:05 PM , Rating: 2
By leidegre on 6/5/2007 3:32:32 AM , Rating: 2
I'll buy as long as the read/write speeds are adequate enough, then I'll buy another one and have one for my OS, swapping and business applications, and then the second one for gaming or similiar real-time software. And then I'll go get those 1TB drivers for storage.

ssd's will be the big storage buzz at computex
By fc1204 on 6/4/2007 10:10:28 PM , Rating: 2
i think everyone believe flash ssd's will start eating notebook storage in the next 2-5 years (double-digit %). it will be interesting to see what some of the flash storage makers come out with in the next 12 months to help realize what the analysts are forecasting.

consumer ssd's will be like consumer hdd's in the 80's for about 5 years and then the market share will be defined thereafter... be interesting to see if intel kicks samsung over as the top flash maker after the dust settles after ssd's...

RE: ssd's will be the big storage buzz at computex
By defter on 6/5/2007 3:00:11 AM , Rating: 2
I think it will be hard for Intel kick anybody in the flash market considering that they just sold their flash business.

I don't think that SSDs will replace HDDs anytime soon. Currently, they are still 10 times more expensive and their read/write speeds sucks. Come on, even an ordinary HDD can achieve 65-70MB/s transfer rate these days. Sure, low access time is nice, but at that price I would expected excellent (>>100MB/s) read/write speeds.

By derdon on 6/5/2007 9:13:13 AM , Rating: 2
65-70MB/s is actually pretty cool.
The best 7200RPM heat monsters and power eaters for notebooks still achieve only close to 60MB/s maximum while needing 4 Watt on load. Better models with much less performance still need up to 2 Watt on load.

RE: ssd's will be the big storage buzz at computex
By TomZ on 6/5/2007 9:49:16 AM , Rating: 2
Come on, even an ordinary HDD can achieve 65-70MB/s transfer rate these days.

Not true, most mobile drives have average transfer rates in the 25-45 MB/s range.

Some drives may "peak" at 55MB/s, however, that is just for the first few GB of the HDD. Flash HDDs, however, have the same high transfer rate for the entire drive.

Flash HDDs really earn their place in the market due to their lower power dissipation and higher reliability.

Also, remember these are really an early generation of flash HDDs. I think you will see higher transfer rates in newer drives. There is no reason really that flash HDDs can't have performance near that of the SATA link itself, which I think may have been your original point.

By defter on 6/5/2007 10:03:25 AM , Rating: 2
I was talking about HDDs in general. Desktop HDDs can easily achieve 65-70MB/s.

What about writespeeds?
By leidegre on 6/5/2007 3:28:06 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, what about them! No info there, still the 67MB/s read speed seems more than enough to compete with existing HDD devices...

RE: What about writespeeds?
By ceefka on 6/5/2007 6:02:17 AM , Rating: 2
Especially against 5400rpm notebook drives

By mmcdonalataocdotgov on 6/5/2007 7:49:50 AM , Rating: 2
Their niche really seems to be low power consumption right now, so good for laptops regardless of the current RPM. I would like one for an OS drive for a desktop, but it doesn't seem worth it for now.

BUT, given the marketing maxim "Pre Plan Product Imporvements" (P3I) I think we will see some vast improvements sooner than 5 years from now. Things move a lot faster than they did in the 80's, and someone will beat you to market if you have a 5 year plan. IMHO.

Where are the hybrid drives?
By drank12quartsstrohsbeer on 6/5/2007 9:32:15 AM , Rating: 2
I thought Vista was supposed to usher in hybrid drives. At least that was the buzz a couple years ago.

RE: Where are the hybrid drives?
By TomZ on 6/5/2007 9:39:00 AM , Rating: 2
Vista does support hybrid drives, however, I don't think there is a lot of support for them since most companies will be implementing Robson (except for HP apparently). Robson is basically the same thing as a hybrid HDD, except it puts the flash on the CPU side of the SATA link, and it also allows the computer to use a standard commodity HDD.

I think hybrid HDDs are only a stopgap measure for pre-Santa Rosa laptops. There is little incentive for HDD manufacturers to invest heavily in a transitional technology like this.

Physically too large
By Madzombie on 6/5/2007 1:03:55 PM , Rating: 2
Those drives must have a lot of empty space inside them, as 64GB of flash memory should take up considerably less space than a 1.8" HDD. Micro SD cards come in sizes up to 4GB, so a 64GB SSD drive should be manufacturable that is the size of 16 micro SD cards. They should push for a new form factor that is bigger than current camera cards to allow greater storage capacity yet is much more compact than the hard drives they are aiming to replace. Actually, there is already a form factor that meets these requirements: it's called Compact Flash. If they made compact flash sized cards with sata interfaces then we'd see some real progress.

RE: Physically too large
By mindless1 on 6/5/2007 5:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
Compact Flash already had ATA support, quit looking to the future as if there was any reason you can't do it today except for price or choice.

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