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Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7
Samsung gets hit over the head again by Apple and a German court

Remember that striking new Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 that was unveiled just a few days ago at the IFA consumer electronics show in Berlin, Germany? Well, Samsung has already pulled the promotional material and prototypes off the show floor.

SlashGear first noticed this yesterday, and a spokesman for Samsung simply stated, "Samsung has removed the Galaxy Tab 7.7 from our stand at IFA. We cannot make any further comment as we have not received an official statement from the court.” 

Bloomberg confirmed that a Dusseldorf court on Friday granted Apple's request to add the Galaxy Tab 7.7 to the list of banned Samsung devices in Germany. As a result, Samsung is forbidden from selling or marketing the Galaxy Tab 7.7 in that country.

“Samsung respects the court’s decision,” said Samsung spokesman James Chung to Bloomberg. He went on to add that Apple's actions in this matter “severely limits consumer choice in Germany.” 

As its name implies, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 features a 7.7" Super AMOLED display with a 1280x800 resolution. The tablet also packs a 5,100 mAh battery, 1.4GHz dual-core processor, up to 64GB of storage, microSD slot, 802.11n, Bluetooth 3.0, rear- and front-facing cameras, and GPS. 

A court injunction in early August weighed heavily in Apple's favor, as it banned all sales and marketing of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the European Union. That ruling was largely scaled back, however, and was limited to just Germany (the Dusseldorf court did not have the authority to expand it's ban hammer to other entities in the European Union).

Outside of the European Union, Apple has also succeeded in preventing the sales and marketing of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia. Samsung later decided to give up fighting the injunction and will instead wait until a final ruling is handled down on September 26 regarding its fate in the country. 

Apple is on the warpath when it comes to protecting the sales of its cash cow iPad. Using rather "diplomatic" language, the Cupertino, California-based company in an April lawsuit chided Samsung; "Rather than innovate and develop its own technology and a unique Samsung style for its smartphone products and computer tablets, Samsung chose to copy Apple's technology, user interface and innovative style in these infringing products."

Apple delivered an even more snarky statement to journalist Ina Fried expressing its frustration with Samsung's "copy machine". "It’s no coincidence that Samsung’s latest products look a lot like the iPhone and iPad, from the shape of the hardware to the user interface and even the packaging. This kind of blatant copying is wrong, and we need to protect Apple’s intellectual property when companies steal our ideas.”

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By nocturne_81 on 9/4/2011 1:49:23 PM , Rating: 4
I just can't believe that Samsung has actually been found guilty of infringement, instead of the other way around. After all, they've been making 'thin, black rectangles' for decades -- lcd monitors (huge proof of prior art there -- nowhere in the design patent is the type of device mentioned), tablets, phones, and even eerily tablet-like digital photo frames which you could even watch movies and listen to music on.

Apple simply hasn't come up with an original product since they invented the computer mouse. They've merely just kept a finger on the pulse of the market, intelligently noticing trends and exploiting them to their advantage. None of their products are at all revolutionary, but instead are highly successful due to the highly obsessive nature of their fans.

I challenge any and all here to name a single product or service of Apple's from the last 20 years that was original and unique.

RE: Ridiculous...
By Solandri on 9/4/2011 3:09:08 PM , Rating: 3
If Samsung had bothered applying for the ridiculous design patents Apple did, there's a good chance the situation could have been reversed and the iPads banned from sale in the market. Samsung designed the appearance it used on its tablets 4 years before Apple ever breathed the name "iPad".

If the courts care at all about prior art, Apple is going to lose these lawsuits handily.

RE: Ridiculous...
By sprockkets on 9/4/2011 5:10:40 PM , Rating: 2
But at least here in the US and abroad (not sure since Samsung's reputation in Korea is quite different) Samsung isn't a douchebag like apple who cares.

Remember when the Motorola CEO or high up called them "Samesung" for copying their Q smartphone with the Blackjack? Aside from that, nothing else happened. No lawsuits, no patent war, nothing.

This is why we hate Apple. And why they can GF themselves.

RE: Ridiculous...
By Kiffberet on 9/5/11, Rating: 0
RE: Ridiculous...
By sprockkets on 9/5/2011 12:59:59 PM , Rating: 2
I can bet you $100 you have no idea how a microsoft tablet works, because if you did, all the BS about people saying "it wasn't a tablet OS from the ground up" would make no sense.

RE: Ridiculous...
By thetruth81 on 9/6/2011 11:44:39 AM , Rating: 2
I have use a microsoft tablet and it was a dog. It was a heavy operating system on a lite processor. The battery life sucked and it dragged everytime I did anything on it. The problem is not the hardware but that software lagged. If windows would of pushed a lite operating system on the hardware, it might of actually caught on before apple came out with the Ipad. Have you notice there are still not any major tablets with a windows operating system.

RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/5/2011 2:57:04 PM , Rating: 4
I will give you one fact -- all apple products are impeccably designed from the ground up, with a very high level of build quality (poisonous plastics aside). But to say that they got there first (in any context) is simply wrong.

To most of you, it seems you had no idea what a smartphone was prior to the iPhone or Android releases -- and choose to ignore a decade of prior development on windows mobile (the OS that made HTC) and symbian. There were a lot of incredible devices (I still have a few), but they were simply too complicated for most users, who weren't capable of loading custom roms and finding obscure apps on the net. What iOS/Android really did was change the smartphone into a service instead of a product -- using it as a platform to sell all sorts of content, making smartphones finally profitable.

And tablets are nothing new, either.. Every PC manufacturer has been coming out with a prototype every few years since the mid 90s -- some were really incredible, though most never made it to market, and those that did were a bit out of most people's reach at around $2k apiece. People just couldn't justify paying twice as much for half a notebook with half the power and capability.

Put an iPhone next to a Galaxy S, or an iPad next to a Galaxy tab... I'm sorry, there's just no comparison. Besides the slightly more solid feel of the iPhone, the Galaxy series trumps it in simply every which way.

RE: Ridiculous...
By TEAMSWITCHER on 9/5/11, Rating: -1
RE: Ridiculous...
By amanojaku on 9/5/2011 11:45:43 AM , Rating: 5

Telautograph - Elisha Gray, 1888
Electronic capture of handwriting using a stylus

Controller - H.E. Goldberg, 1915
Handwriting recognition using a stylus

Telautograph System - H.C. Moodey, 1942
Touchscreen for handwriting input

PenPad - Pencept, 1982
MS-DOS PC operated by handwriting and gesture recognition

PenPoint OS - GO Corporation, 1991
An early dedicated tablet/PDA OS with handwriting and gesture recognition,2817,1161457,

I won't bother to list the components, like the ARM CPUs or capacitive touchscreens. Or the tablets that blazed the trail, like the PaceBlade. I will ask the question "what did Apple invent?" Multi-touch!!!

Oh, but wait, Steve is a f---ing liar. Apple ACQUIRED multi-touch from the purchase of Fingerworks a year before the iPhone release. And, it doesn't matter, anyway:

Digital Desk - Piere Wellner, 1991


Multi-Touch Sensing - J. Han, 1995
Multi-Touch Sensing through Frustrated Total Internal Reflection

RE: Ridiculous...
RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/4/2011 6:11:18 PM , Rating: 2
As I said before, they haven't come up with anything original since the computer mouse... and also stated anything original in the last 20 years..

RE: Ridiculous...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/4/2011 6:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
No, you said...

Apple simply hasn't come up with an original product since they invented the computer mouse.

They didn't invent the mouse....

RE: Ridiculous...
By kmmatney on 9/4/2011 6:52:06 PM , Rating: 2
They were the first to use a mouse in a mainstream operating system. (I don't think you can count Xerox - what they made a few years earlier was not really a consumer computer at $20+K).

RE: Ridiculous...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/4/2011 7:00:27 PM , Rating: 2
Bill English, builder of Engelbart's original mouse,[13] invented the ball mouse in 1972 while working for Xerox PARC.[14]

They still didn't invent it...which was the reason for my post...

RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/5/2011 12:33:17 AM , Rating: 2
Ahh... Sorry, honestly looked over that.. I figured they didn't exactly invent anything, but were largely attributed to the mouse's success (though, common sense could be argued).

I stand corrected.. Apple has never had an original product..

RE: Ridiculous...
By Tony Swash on 9/5/11, Rating: 0
RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/6/2011 5:18:58 AM , Rating: 4
Nobody ever denied Apple wasn't great at making money -- but they still didn't invent anything. But, case for case..

I suppose you aren't old enough to remember when nearly every home that had a computer, had an Apple II -- one of the most successful computers of all time. Having a great share of the market through the late 80s, they had no place to go -- but down. Year after year Mac sales dropped and with the release of Win95, Apple became no longer relevant. Sure, OSX certainly helped swing things back around (still nothing original -- it was largely based on work done by BSD and other opensource communities). In recent years, though, sales have been floundering (though recent price-cuts have helped) -- and as I'm sure you know, the only figures that show growth, include iOS devices in addition to OSX. So if anything, Apple has fallen oh so far, and is only recently turning things around.

And the iPod..? Eh.. If you don't recall, it was a bit of a flop to start (despite all the cheery commercials). The first generation didn't even work on Windows, and with the second generation you had to use MusicMatch. Personally, I appreciated the build quality and capacitive controls, but the interface was always clunky and very limited, at least until several years later when iTunes became fully established. Compared to an Archos Jukebox or any flash-based PMP... well..

They made an online store, and they made a retail chain, and then they made money -- big surprise. But, original..? I guess you could say it's original to convince people to buy products for twice as much as they are worth.. oh wait -- did Apple invent the Mall..?

The iPhone -- already been much discussed here. 'Best selling' is moronic way of putting it -- they only have one model (though if you count cdma/gsm, or split them between between carriers like the Galaxy S sales figures..), while every other manu has an entire slew, releasing new products every few months. That's why Apple is still 4th in total sales (though depends on where you read it). And if profits are so great, why the slumping activations and slews of lawsuits..?

Tablets.. You can't really compare an iPad to a tablet PC -- the idea alone is laughable. Though, there were many ARM-based portable devices, for many years -- pda's. Limited in size as they were, I still maintain they were much more convenient. In 2002 I had a handheld device that I could browse the net on, get turn by turn gps navigation, play games, listen to music, watch movies.. The only limitation was the size of technology, and eventually the burgeoning smartphone market forced pda's out completely. An arm-based tablet, to me.. it's not a pc, it's not a phone.. what's the point?

Webkit.. I suppose you never knew that apple just took konqueror's khtml engine, jazzed it up a bit, and gave it a new name. Most of the work in the last few years that has made webkit so successful was largely do to work done by KDE and Google. And almost all..? Is that what your definition of 20-25% market share is? (again, thanks to Google)

What they did do was create clever marketing to get consumers to buy inferior products for twice the cost, so I guess there's that.. They've had a long history of finding incredible work done by others and slapping their own name on it -- so I maintain that No, they haven't invented anything.

RE: Ridiculous...
By Tony Swash on 9/6/11, Rating: 0
RE: Ridiculous...
By Alexstarfire on 9/6/2011 3:02:27 PM , Rating: 2
Is that even surprising? PC doesn't really have anywhere to grow. The two products are mutually exclusive so while pretty much everyone has a PC already they could still purchase a Mac.

IDK if I'd say they crush all their competition either. That implies that almost no one uses other devices which simply isn't true. On top of that, if they are crushing them so bad then why the lawsuits? If they weren't afraid they'd just out-innovate and leave the rest in the dust.... unfortunately that will never happen.

RE: Ridiculous...
By retrospooty on 9/6/2011 3:22:25 PM , Rating: 2
"I guess you missed news that Mac sales growth had outpaced PC market growth comfortably for the last 21 consecutive quarters"

Come back down to earth man... Its not that big. Growing slightly, but not headed for any major changes. The world runs off PC and will continue to until someone comes out with something better. So far, no-one has ever come close including Apple.

OK, serious question... Is there ANYTHING Apple can do wrong in your eyes, or are you here strictly to defend every action they take and every product they make? It's one thing to prefer a particular product, and I understand why some people like MAC's, but its another thing to be a complete "fanboy" and ignore any postitive points about a competing product, and ignore any negative points about Apple.

RE: Ridiculous...
By nocturne_81 on 9/6/2011 3:23:41 PM , Rating: 2
I've stated repeatedly that Apple has done incredibly well designing and marketing their products (most profitable tech company in the world, though not even close to the largest), but you still avoid the fact that they have no original products. As for sales and market share, it largely depends on what source you look at -- NPD has been back and forth, IDC hasn't noticed much of an upswing in shipments, and an article referencing (or non-referencing, more accurately) statements an executive of Apple makes are decidedly one sided. As for market share:

What they sell to their fans is not a product, but an identity. Millions of consumers feel that all they need to do is buy an Apple product and they're instantly an artist or DJ. You can watch them in line at a coffee shop spot each other with iPhones in hand, nodding to each other in a silent acknowledgement as if they belong to an exclusive club. Apple is no longer the 'rebel' as envisioned in their iconic 80s commercial, but now plays the role of the 'conformist'.

I have a close personal friend who has lusted after the iPhone for years, and months back finally got one. The poor chump has no idea to do with this marvelling piece of tech, besides play angry birds and use it as a phone (he can't even figure out how to set up his email and facebook apps). He didn't buy an iPhone because it had the capability in a phone he wanted/needed -- he just wanted to be part of the exclusive club, and meanwhile I chuckle every time he answers his phone upside down.

And head hunted..? I suppose not.. I've always avoided working in the tech industry, unless you count a few websites (why ruin a passion by turning it into work?). I was even originally going to be a lawyer, though the concept made me sick to my stomach. I'd rather avoid working in a office with a barcode pinned to my chest, honestly.

And, I suppose I may indeed be a brainiac -- at least when compared to your horrid grammar.

RE: Ridiculous...
By OoklaTheMok on 9/6/2011 12:11:44 AM , Rating: 2
I am so tired of hearing "how original" Apple is with their designs. Apple doesn't have any original designs. Everything they have is a rip off of Dieter Rams designs.

I don't see how Apple can sue anyone for something that they lifted from someone else in the first place.

By superPC on 9/4/2011 10:54:10 AM , Rating: 5
the dutch court result was pro samsung. i bet this one will be similar.

that's because: prior art, legal precedence, common sense (come on, technologies serve some purpose and they serve them in the most efficient way possible, that's why LCD TV, washing machine, refrigerator, air conditioning unit, and water heater all look very similar from one brand to the next).

i really hope this patent war end soon.

RE: again?
By michael2k on 9/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: again?
By superPC on 9/4/2011 11:34:07 AM , Rating: 2
i guess you haven't read this: the dutch court already ruled on apple vs samsung case.

PS: dutch = netherlands (

RE: again?
By dark matter on 9/4/2011 12:53:15 PM , Rating: 2
It's patently obvious you're an Apple fan that has no clue.

RE: again?
By drycrust3 on 9/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: again?
By inighthawki on 9/4/2011 2:53:39 PM , Rating: 5
Uh, actually it DOES matter whether it's "new or original" because it means prior art, which means the patent is invalid, and should never have been passed. You sir are either incredibly ignorant or a huge fanboy to believe that Apple's patents are "valid" in any way here.

RE: again?
By amanojaku on 9/4/2011 11:40:38 AM , Rating: 5
The other day I was chatting with an iPhone 3GS owner who, without provocation, stated Apple's lawsuits are out of control. I was entering my number into her phone (we're classmates) when she asks me about them and says how crazy they are.

I almost proposed to her.

RE: again?
By Boze on 9/5/2011 12:13:22 PM , Rating: 2
You have found yourself a keeper.

RE: again?
By EasyC on 9/7/2011 12:29:26 PM , Rating: 2
Back on my 3rd date with my GF, she stated that she hated Apple for all the BS they pull and wishes they could just create competitive products at competitive prices without all the bully crap.

I knew then I loved her.

Just a tad of proof-reading please ;-)
By Aries1470 on 9/4/2011 11:11:18 AM , Rating: 2
As its name implies, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 features a 7.7" Super AMOLED display with a 1280x800 resolution. The tablet also packs a 5,100 mAh battery, 1.4GHz dual-core processor, up to 64GB of storage, microSD slot, 802.11n, Bluetooth 3.0, GPS, rear- and front-facing cameras, and GPS.

Is it me, or is GPS mentioned twice? Does it have two different GPS? maybe add "A-GPS & GPS"? just a thought.

now that sounds like a good battery, can it charge other devices too if they connect to its usb?

Ok, no downgrading, but if you must... :-P

RE: Just a tad of proof-reading please ;-)
By Brandon Hill on 9/4/2011 11:13:03 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks, fixed ;)

By leexgx on 9/4/2011 12:03:19 PM , Rating: 2
never know an Writer to correct his mistakes on DT before + for you

(the DT report on Virgin media DOCSIS 2 was incorrect when its DOCSIS 3 for 30mb broadband or higher still not been corrected from last time i checked)

Who's getting a Win 8 tablet?
By B3an on 9/4/2011 2:30:30 PM , Rating: 2
Just a random thing i wanted to ask but who will be getting or considering a Win 8 tablet? Being as it should actually make tablets useful. It could possibly completely replace a Laptop.

One interesting thing it that you should be able to use a Win 8 tablet as a portable PC that just so happens to also have a display on it. As you could connect it up to any monitors, mice, keyboards, networks, printers, TV's, whatever and get the usual full windows experience. It would be like taking a full desktop PC around, just a less powerful version.

By Black1969ta on 9/5/2011 2:58:12 AM , Rating: 2
Even Win 8 will fail to take the Tablet world by storm unless the manufacturer can implement the WiDi technology from Intel.

My wife has a Toshiba i5 with that and the Netgear receiver and that feature would be very useful on a Tablet. Once the receiver is set-up you can turn the TV into a Big 1080p Monitor with no wires, that would be great, add a Bluetooth mouse and Keyboard and you could plug in the Tablet anywhere and not even need it; however, I would prefer to use the Tablet as a touchscreen for the monitor.

Reduce lag a little more and I can see a majority of the population needing no more computing power than fits in their phone and docking it with tablet/PC/workstation/etc...

By OoklaTheMok on 9/6/2011 12:19:04 AM , Rating: 2
I can't wait for the Windows 8 tablets. I think they have a serious chance in the market place. It's a Windows device that seriously handles the touch interface, and provides the classic mouse/keyboard interface. And what makes it really compelling is the marrying of the two interfaces.

The youtube videos that provide some glimpses of the new UI are stunning. Not the videos per se, but what they are showing of the new UI.

And yes, I agree with your statement completely. I frankly wish it was coming out sooner rather than later.

On the positive side...
By TakinYourPoints on 9/4/2011 3:00:00 PM , Rating: 2
At least Samsung will have a scapegoat as to why they only sold 20k units out of 1 million produced.

By snakeInTheGrass on 9/5/2011 6:56:50 PM , Rating: 2
Hey guys, looks like someone accidentally put an iPad picture up instead of the Tab.

Not copying Apple
By Tony Swash on 9/4/11, Rating: 0
RE: Not copying Apple
By sprockkets on 9/4/2011 6:25:20 PM , Rating: 1
Two can play at this game

Three things....
By tayb on 9/4/11, Rating: -1
RE: Three things....
By Brandon Hill on 9/4/2011 11:03:51 AM , Rating: 3
3. A 7.7" tablet is dumb anyways. Too small to be used as a useful tablet and way too big to replace your phone. If it doesn't fit in your pocket you may as well make it big. Serious question, why would you buy this instead of the 10.1"?

Well, I bought into the tablet craze a few months ago, and then cashed out recently.

I bought a 16GB iPad 2 a few months back from Target. I also have an sub 3-pound notebook and an iPhone 4. I liked the iPad, and it was actually pretty cool to use, but it ended up being more of a replacement for my iPhone than my notebook.

When I needed to type something longer than a few sentences, I always ran to my notebook. My iPhone, on the other hand, sat on the table and was only used to make phone calls (whereas before it had become my go-to multimedia/goof-off device).

So in the end, juggling three devices ended up being a waste of money and time. When it came down to it, I needed my laptop and I needed my iPhone. The iPad was just a superfluous device that didn't really help me be more productive at all.

A few other notes:

1) I can type faster on my iPhone than I can on the iPad which you have to hold awkwardly with two hands
2) I can type with one hand on the iPhone (i.e., hold it with my left hand and type with my left thumb or vice versa)
3) With a few exceptions, everything I did on my iPad I could do on my iPhone
4) The iPad is not highly transportable. I can stick my iPhone in my pocket -- the iPad requires a bag or a man purse. If I need to carry around a bag, I might as well bring my my more powerful notebook.
5) The real kicker -- my iPhone can do just about everything my iPad can, plus it's a phone.

So I returned it to Target and got all of my money back (after having it for a little over two months).

RE: Three things....
By tayb on 9/4/2011 11:21:03 AM , Rating: 2
I don't see any justification for owning a tablet if you already own a notebook besides "cool, I have a new gadget." If you don't have a notebook at all I can see the justification but even then you would probably be better served spending that $500 on a good notebook than on a tablet.

I just don't understand the 7.7" tablet market. I don't see ANY use cases where I would rather have that than a bigger tablet or a notebook.

RE: Three things....
By Tony Swash on 9/4/11, Rating: 0
RE: Three things....
By koenshaku on 9/4/2011 12:02:50 PM , Rating: 2
I saw that it was a big phone that didn't make calls early on yeah you can watch netflix on it and its easier to hold, but that is also on my xbox 360 I would turn my tv on for first. Which is ultimately why I am waiting on a good windows tab within my budget which is looking more like windows 8 at this point. I guess the 7.7" is targeted for women and asians with small hands?

RE: Three things....
By dark matter on 9/4/2011 12:55:50 PM , Rating: 2
Wait a minute, you said you were setting up for your 80 year old aunt. And then it seems you didn't let her use it, because you were too busy doing all those things with it.

Gee, sure glad I don't have you in my family.

RE: Three things....
By Brandon Hill on 9/4/2011 1:12:35 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO! He probably told her that he needed to take it home so that he could "install some virus software on it" and that he'll bring it back next week ;)

RE: Three things....
By Brandon Hill on 9/4/2011 1:11:08 PM , Rating: 2
You see, even in the situations you listed, I found the iPad to be inferior:

On the couch: you still have to prop the iPad up with your hands which gets tiring (even though it only weighs 1.5 pounds). Or you could rest it on your lap as you are sitting up in the couch, but then you have to slouch your body over to look at the screen as it lays flat on your lap.

With a laptop, it's sitting on your lap while on the couch, and the screen is directly in front, you only have to shift your eyes/head down slightly to read.

In bed reading: similar situation, in that I have to sit up in bed with either the iPad or the notebook. In actuality, I prefer reading on my iPhone than either the iPad or the notebook. Because I can lay on my side with my head on the pillow, and hold the iPhone with one hand and read.

Playing games: the iPad may have a much larger screen, but I find gaming to be much better on the iPhone. It's easier to maneuver for motion controlled games, and games that require button presses are much more intuitive on the smaller iPhone than on the larger, harder to grasp naturally iPad.

Even playing a game as simple as Angry Birds while sitting down is a far inferior experience IMHO on the iPad than on the iPhone. You're holding a 1.5-pound device in one hand while swiping/pulling with your index finger on the opposite hand...

...Versus the iPhone which weighs a few ounces doing the same action. Tell me which one gets tiring faster!

Checking info like weather/TV schedules: smartphones excel at this. Pull it out of your pocket, weather information is right there, stick it back in your pocket. An iPad will never be that user friendly. Oh, and if you want to be able to check weather/TV schedules anywhere, you'd better have the 3G version. But oh wait, you're foolish self is now paying for TWO data contracts -- one for your smartphone, and one for your tablet!! :)

Bottom line, I'm sure that people that don't REALLY need a PC would do fine with a tablet. For me personally, a capable smartphone + a light notebook is a hard combo to beat.

RE: Three things....
By MadMan007 on 9/4/2011 12:50:46 PM , Rating: 2
Personally I think 7-8" tablets are perfect. A good blend of portability (although not pocketable) and screen size, phones lack the latter. They are around the same size or smaller than the (gasp) paper organizers people used to carry around . 10" tablets are good for home use - something to leave around the coffee table in the living room - but not something I'd want to carry around.

RE: Three things....
By Solandri on 9/4/2011 3:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I think the magic sizes are 7"-8" for portability, and around 11"-13" as a replacement for printed sheets of paper. Measured diagonally, common paper formats w/o margins, and w/ 1" margins are:

13.6" | 10.8" - Magazines
13.9" | 11.1" - Letter-sized paper (8.5" x 11")
14.3" | 11.5" - A4-sized paper

The current 10" form factor (9.7" really) is a shade too small as a paper replacement - a compromise due to price and currently available technology. I don't see it lasting.

RE: Three things....
By amanojaku on 9/4/2011 12:01:32 PM , Rating: 2
You outlined my reasons for not wanting a tablet. They're great for corporate users who have remote desktop functionality, and for people who want a large mobile video screen.

The recently announced Samsung Series 7 Slate is the closest device to what I envision. It has an x86 CPU that can run the same OS as my desktop or workstation, so I can run the same software in two places, or even migrate the low-utilization apps to the tablet. It has microHDMI, so I can plug it into a display with a standard cable and no dongle. And it has 4GiB of RAM, which would allow for a tabbed-browser with 10 or more (ad-filtered) pages open, an HD video, and at least one office productivity app. The CPU is the only drawback (dual-core, but 1.6GHz), but that's a temporary setback for today's technology, and way better than other tablets. Oh, and it sounds like Samsung paid attention to the various forms of input, with keyboard, stylus, and Swype capability.

Damn shame it's so expensive, though. It's gotta come down about $200-300, I think. :(

RE: Three things....
By SilthDraeth on 9/4/2011 1:25:54 PM , Rating: 2
Wouldn't the asus transformer be more of a replacement for the laptop?

Though I really don't know if there are common android bluetooth print drivers that work on hp and other bluetooth capable printers.

Or over WiFi.

Also, haven't installed any office program on my Epic, as there really isn't a need.

If I were to buy any tablet though, it would be the Transformer.

RE: Three things....
By mattscottshea on 9/5/2011 10:56:29 AM , Rating: 2
I feel ASUS has the right idea moving forward to keep Tablets relevant. The transformer and the slider offer superior overall functionality than other tablets thanks to their keyboards (in the Transformers case, a trackpad, more battery life, and full usb/sd ports). And when Win8 comes out, these designs may prove to be a deciding factor in peoples purchases. Now if only they can squeeze in a thin blu-ray drive.

RE: Three things....
By BugblatterIII on 9/5/2011 3:30:19 PM , Rating: 2
Do you think the Asus Transformer might have given you the best of both? Or if not now then when tablets become more powerful?

Apple might as well not bothered
By Tony Swash on 9/4/11, Rating: -1
By DeluxeTea on 9/5/2011 5:41:41 AM , Rating: 2
Unsubstantiated news report. Nothing to see here.

By Camikazi on 9/5/2011 4:08:48 PM , Rating: 2
Key words in that report, CLAIMS RIVAL, it's not official and what rival will ever come out and say the other company is doing well and has a great product? I mean honestly, are you always so easily fooled?

"Spreading the rumors, it's very easy because the people who write about Apple want that story, and you can claim its credible because you spoke to someone at Apple." -- Investment guru Jim Cramer

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