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The baby brother to the Galaxy S5 will feature a 1.4GHz quad-core processor

Samsung is off to a fantastic start with its Galaxy S5 smartphone. The reviews for the phone have been favorable and sales are definitely strong. Last month, AT&T launched the “rugged” version of its flagship: the Galaxy S5 Active.
 
Now, we’re getting a good, clear look at the next variant that will soon be made available: the Galaxy S5 mini. SamMobile has secured high-resolution photograph of the downsized smartphone.

 
Specifications for the Galaxy S5 mini include:
  • Processor: 1.4GHz Exynos 3 Quad
  • GPU: Quad-core Mali-400 MP4
  • Display: 4.5”, 720p
  • Memory: 1.5GB
  • Storage: 16GB, microSD slot
  • Cameras: 8MP rear, 2.1MP front
  • Wireless: LTE, 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0 LE
The Galaxy S5 mini is also said to include a fingerprint scanner and heart rate sensor like its larger sibling, along with IP67 water and dust resistance. The smartphone is running Android KitKat 4.4.2 with TouchWiz UX layered on top.

 
We don’t have any information on pricing or availability at this time, but we’ll be sure to update you as soon as we find out.

Source: SamMobile



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weak specs in a big boy body
By BillyBatson on 6/11/2014 12:43:37 PM , Rating: 5
As someone who doesn't ever want a phone larger than 4-4.5" these mini versions of flagship phones would be real options for me if to for the fact that the specs are so bad! I don't get it it isn't small 3" device that can't house more powerful components. at 4.5 this "mini" is larger than say an iphone5s yet its specs are that of a phone from a couple of years ago.
Samsung, HTC, LG, (and soon Apple with its ip6 in 2 sizes); I understand dumbing down the specs but maybe by 10-20% not massive 50% downgrading especially when high end components fit! Why won't a company release a high-end phone with the same hardware in two different sizes? If all things are equal except size maybe then we could see if there is more demand for smaller phones than we thought and less for larger phones. But we specs like these I would never consider buying a "Mini" version.




RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By Spuke on 6/11/2014 1:01:45 PM , Rating: 1
Because only two people here on DT want a small screen with high end hardware. NO ONE else does. People LIKE the bigger screens PERIOD! That's why they sell. NO ONE except us geeks cares about the hardware. Regular people don't even know what's inside and don't care.


By retrospooty on 6/11/2014 1:57:31 PM , Rating: 1
Exactly... It's obvious that some people do want it, but most don't. OEM's seem to be all coming to the same conclusion. Now that we see all that can be done with todays smartphones (on any platform) most people want larger screens. Even Apple "No one wants a phone larger than 3.5 inches" is going 4.7 and 5.5 on the next round. This is just the way things are going. The free market dictates what people want... If tons of people were clamoring for the Xperia Z2 mini ,or even Moto X, believe me more OEM's would be making phones in that size.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By techxx on 6/11/2014 4:35:44 PM , Rating: 2
They might also be selling because they are THE ONLY WAY to get high-end specs. The Moto X is a great example of why you don't need top specs for a fluid experience, but many people consider it a mid-range device which is far from the truth.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By tastyratz on 6/11/2014 6:21:48 PM , Rating: 3
maybe people like the high end phone more than the gigantic screen? How do we know? Nobody is coming close to offering a similar experience in a smaller package. All "small" phones are clocked down versions of their big brothers while not being THAT much smaller.
I don't think of mini as a cheap crap version, I think of mini as a small version. If I could get the m8 with a 4.5in screen and the same specs I would opt for that in a heartbeat.

Not everyone wants a phablet.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By EasyC on 6/11/2014 8:04:44 PM , Rating: 2
They do. I have it.

Problem is, you're on the carrier with the least amount of option ;)


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By retrospooty on 6/12/2014 8:16:16 AM , Rating: 1
"maybe people like the high end phone more than the gigantic screen? How do we know? Nobody is coming close to offering a similar experience in a smaller package."

They did. It started around 4 inches 3-4 years ago and it slowly crept upwards. Why? That's what sells. If smaller ones sold well, they would all me making it.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/12/2014 9:38:46 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly.

Also how do you price a high-end mini phone when the flagship lines are all large phones.

The average person isn't going to understand why they have to pay as much, or more, for "less" of a phone than it's full sized brethren.

That's why all these "mini" phones have mid-grade parts. Otherwise the margins would be thin as hell, not worth it.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By bug77 on 6/12/2014 11:02:24 AM , Rating: 2
That's only part of the reason. As you can see in the comments for ant "new flagship launched" article on DT, there's always someone asking for smaller form factors. So there is at least some demand. The reason phones are getting larger, imho, is that newer Snapdragons need more battery juice and you can't fit that into a device with a 4.3" screen. Unless you add huge bezels, but that defeats the purpose. And probably cooling has something to do with phones getting larger, too.
At the same time, as flagships are getting larger and larger, people also find out a bigger screen works wonders for actual usability. Yes, you can't use it with one hand just as easy, but you can actually read that web page.
In short, I don;t think phones are getting larger because they are THE solution, but because they're a convenient solution for the time being.


By retrospooty on 6/12/2014 12:01:21 PM , Rating: 2
"there's always someone asking for smaller form factors. So there is at least some demand."

Of course there are some, but not enough to make it an attractive option for OEM's. Free market dictates... If there were alot of people wanting it, the Xperia Z2 would be in super high demand and carriers would be jumping to carry it and OEM's would be making smaller ones to match.

The only exception to that is Apple, which gets high sales for different reason, and BTW, they are going 4.7 and 5.5 as well, because their own internal research indicates people want it larger.

The reason is simple, with all you can do on todays smartphones, doing it all on a small screen is a deterrent. Even just browsing in a 4 inch screen is a pain, a large screen makes it easier and give you a better view of the pages you are viewing. Same for apps and games... Plus people are finding more and more uses all the time. The ero of small screens is about over.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By bug77 on 6/11/2014 1:13:55 PM , Rating: 2
You could fit more powerful stuff in there, but you still have to cool it. The Snapdragon 800 was already proven to barely be able to sustain its advertised speeds for more than a couple of minutes and that's in a 5"+ body.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By maroon1 on 6/11/2014 1:27:45 PM , Rating: 3
These mini phones cost less than iphone and regular S5, so why your expecting them to have similar specs ?

At least S5 mini has 1.5GB ram which is bigger than the other mini phones like HTC one mini 2 and LG G2 mini


By marvdmartian on 6/11/2014 2:15:58 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe the idea is to offer it at a mini price? Since pricing wasn't available, it's entirely possible.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By Argon18 on 6/11/2014 2:40:28 PM , Rating: 4
" I understand dumbing down the specs but maybe by 10-20% not massive 50% downgrading especially when high end components fit!"

It isn't an issue of fit. The issue is requirements, and price point.

This phone only has a 720p screen, it doesn't need to push anywhere near as many pixels as a 1080p phone does. Therefore lower end hardware can provide the same level of performance and frame rates as high end hardware does at 1080p.

Secondly, this is obviously marketed as a little brother to the flagship phone. Therefore it has to have a little brother price point. You can't hit that smaller price point if you use all the same expensive components as the flagship phone. Something's got to give, otherwise it simply won't sell.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2014 4:16:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why won't a company release a high-end phone with the same hardware in two different sizes? If all things are equal except size maybe then we could see if there is more demand for smaller phones than we thought and less for larger phones. But we specs like these I would never consider buying a "Mini" version.


Because they don't have a magical "Shrink ray" to cram the same components and battery into a much smaller form factor?


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By EasyC on 6/11/2014 5:33:32 PM , Rating: 3
I'm in the exact same boat. I hate huge phones.

Then I discovered the Sony Z1 Compact... I'd suggest you do, too ;)


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By haukionkannel on 6/12/2014 5:07:04 AM , Rating: 2
The Sony Z1 compact is good "mini" phone... The Only problem is that it is not so mini. It is smaller than this Samsung mini though. But it seems to be the only "mini" phone with good hardware. Go for it! It may be that other phone makers also are willing to make smaller phones with good hardware if Z1 compact sell well enough!


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By EasyC on 6/12/2014 9:43:22 AM , Rating: 2
It's marginally bigger than an iphone 5 (slightly wider/thicker). What do you consider mini?

It's less wide than a moto-x.


RE: weak specs in a big boy body
By robertkoa on 6/14/2014 12:42:55 PM , Rating: 2
I very much agree with this !

I have learned much more than I wanted to about Androids ( interesting though ).

I need a powerful Android for Business etc. but am too active to carry a larger fragile
Phone, though I may have to.

The Market is driven by the Flagship Devices , which I understand , which is desirable
because it pushes the envelope further to where we can have a full Laptop in our POCKET, almost , a great thing.

EXCEPT -pushing for larger screens in very thin designs is making very fragile Devices, screen breakage is approaching 15 to 20 % on some models.

For ME a 4.5" to 4.7" screen in a 5.1 " Device is ideal with full RAM, ( 2 to 3 GIGS );

Removable Battery and Expandable Memory;

Camera Quality equal to S 4 or S 5;

Solid Quad Core and Graphics SOC.

Pocket Pro/ Pocket Rocket , Whatever.

SAMSUNG , please beef up Galaxy S 5 Mini as a PRO
Version- $500 to $650 we will buy it.

IF you get the screen to 4.7" in a 5.1" Tall Durable Device, it will be huge.

I will gladly buy the 4.5" Mini Pro with above specs.

When you read the Reviews from 2012 they thought a 4.7" screen was huge, lol.

Pocket Pro -What do you say, just beef up the S5 Mini- I need it NOW !

Thanks.


Best mini phone on the market
By maroon1 on 6/11/2014 1:23:26 PM , Rating: 3
Haters will always bash anything from samsung just because it is from Samsung

But let me tell you something. This phone is better than HTC One mini 2 for several reason

- Galaxy S5 mini has slightly faster CPU (both use Cortex A7, but S5 mini is clocked 200Mhz higher)

- S5 mini has 1.5GB ram. HTC One mini 2 is only 1GB ram which too small these days.

- S5 mini is smaller in size even though both phones has 4.5 inch display




RE: Best mini phone on the market
By superflex on 6/11/2014 2:53:53 PM , Rating: 2
Tell your handlers at Samsung they need to spend more time on your English.
I'll take the superior display and sound quality of the HTC One Mini 2 over the over saturated AMOLED Samsung display.


RE: Best mini phone on the market
By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2014 3:29:38 PM , Rating: 2
LOL wow, where did you get these talking points?

1. You have NO information on how good this display will be until it's properly reviewed and tested. Nor can you state the Mini 2 will have a "superior" display. Did your "handlers" tell you that?

2. The last time Samsung used "over-saturated" color profiles was the Galaxy S2.

I think people are just so used to the pathetic gamut the average LCD puts out, they can't handle AMOLED technology for some reason. Colors aren't meant to look pale and washed out.


RE: Best mini phone on the market
By retrospooty on 6/11/2014 4:24:07 PM , Rating: 2
I know what he means by amoled in general. Some people like the brighter more vibrant colors and blacker blacks of amoled, and some like a more true color display. It's purely a matter of taste, but one thing is for sure... The SS5 display is much improved and easily the best amoled on a phone yet.

http://bgr.com/2014/03/31/samsung-galaxy-s5-displa...


RE: Best mini phone on the market
By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2014 4:50:36 PM , Rating: 2
I would wager to say most people prefer it.

We all know Samsung is a marketing machine. If that's how they have their displays calibrated, you can be damn sure they've done a ton of market research and have determined more people WANT that look than not.


By Monkey's Uncle on 6/11/2014 8:58:29 PM , Rating: 2
While I love my sammys, I am not a huge fan of the organic LEDs. They wash out really badly in direct sunlight. I think TFT actually holds an edge over them here.

Indoors though, I wouldn't have any other kind of display.


SoC
By H.A.L. 9000 on 6/11/2014 12:44:59 PM , Rating: 3
I think you mean Exynos 4 Quad. Exynos 3 was never available in a quad.




RE: SoC
By maroon1 on 6/11/2014 1:31:46 PM , Rating: 2
Just type Exynos 3470 on google search engine and you might find and info about it.

This is a newly released Exynos 3 which uses quad core cortex A7


RE: SoC
By maroon1 on 6/11/2014 1:36:49 PM , Rating: 2
Here I found some info about Exynos 3470
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3078020032

It uses quad cortex A7 @1.4GHz and Mali-400MP4 GPU@533MHz

The GPU is comprable to galaxy Note 2 which also uses Mali-400MP4@533MHz (galaxy S3 also use this but it is clocked lower at 440Mhz)


RE: SoC
By H.A.L. 9000 on 6/11/2014 2:28:26 PM , Rating: 3
Interesting. That SoC fills a niche that was already filled completely by Snapdragon 400. There's no use for Exynos 3470, especially when it's slower than what it's meant to replace. 4412 @ 1.1-1.2GHz would have been perfect. Mature, low-power, readily available...

Why?


an article about a "mini" version of a phone...
By EasyC on 6/11/2014 12:24:33 PM , Rating: 3
...without the actual dimensions of said phone lol.

Oh the ironing...




By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2014 12:36:06 PM , Rating: 2
It has a 4.5" screen. What do you need dimensions for? That's all you need to know.


By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/11/2014 1:32:35 PM , Rating: 2
Since it hasn't been officially announced, it's not like we have much to go on other than the standard screen size. As Reclaimer said, that's all you really need to know for now. Once it's officially released, the exact dimensions will be made available.


By EasyC on 6/11/2014 5:34:48 PM , Rating: 2
A 4.5" phone can have large bezels making the ergonomics of it a bit worse than a 4.7" phone with less bezel... a la Moto X.


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