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Production of new 2560 x 1600 with DisplayPort to enter production next year

Samsung’s latest 30-inch LCD panel sports a DisplayPort interface. The new Samsung panel can process 10 bits of color depth with 2560 x 1600 resolutions via a single DisplayPort interface. Current high-resolution 30-inch displays required dual-link DVI ports to drive such high resolutions.

Samsung collaborated with Genesis Microchip Inc. to develop the 30-inch display with DisplayPort. The new DisplayPort compatible display features a Samsung Super Patterned, Vertical Alignment, or S-PVA, display with 300 nits of brightness. The panel also features a 180-degree viewing angle.

"We have received many inquiries from computer integrators interested in DisplayPort-based LCD panels, which prompted an acceleration of our R&D for this first DisplayPort LCD panel," said Brian Berkeley, vice president of Samsung's LCD business, in a statement to EETimes.

The Video Electronics Standards Association, or VESA, previously approved the DisplayPort 1.1 standard last April. DisplayPort is set to replace LVDS, DVI and VGA interfaces for computer displays. Other DisplayPort supporters include AMD, NVIDIA, HP, Intel and Lenovo. Dell plans to offer DisplayPort-equipped displays later this year. Intel plans to integrate a native DisplayPort interface in its next-generation Eaglelake chipset.


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vs hdmi?
By tyildirim on 7/26/2007 12:30:11 AM , Rating: 2
what I'm interested is if it can be a competitor against hdmi as some sources indicate and what will be the adoption speed as vga and dvi are old and trusted platforms..




RE: vs hdmi?
By Anh Huynh on 7/26/2007 12:48:23 AM , Rating: 5
HDMI is a home theater interface. DisplayPort is designed to replace DVI, VGA and LVDS, not HDMI.


RE: vs hdmi?
By Ringold on 7/26/2007 3:52:00 AM , Rating: 5
Okay, so let me get it straight.

Current video cards ship with DVI and HDMI, because LCD's now use DVI but sooner or later will require HDMI -- which is also meant to join the component, DVI, and other outputs on the back of TV's.

But now DisplayPort will displace DVI and HDMI for computers? What will video cards stuck inbetween generations therefore start to equip -- one of each? One of each plus on extra of what's most popular?

Is there a law on the books where we can execute the idiots in charge of all this? It's not that I mind new standards, it's that I mind transitioning through 3 or 4 simultaneously. There are still VGA monitors out there, DVI will be popular for years, some already are HDCP compliant (did I get that confused with HDMI above?) but some video cards are not, and now we've got HDMI and DisplayPort. And the distinction between home theatre and computer-oriented is a blury one to boot as more and more people enjoy the ability to hook up to TV's/home theatre systems.

And if I get confused, you know six-pack Joe probably already just buys whatever the sales guy at WalMart tells him to.


RE: vs hdmi?
By GaryJohnson on 7/26/2007 12:35:49 PM , Rating: 2
It's easy to convert between HDMI and DVI. So if you have a video card with DVI and a display with HDMI (or visa-versa), you just need the right kind of cable or adapter.

What I think remains to be seen is if DisplayPort will have similar interoperability with HDMI, DVI, or both.


RE: vs hdmi?
By iFX on 8/2/2007 4:59:44 PM , Rating: 2
HDMI also carries AUDIO - display port does not.

Display port will replace VGA and all variations of DVI.

HDMI will continue to be for home theater setups to carry AUDIO and VIDEO.


RE: vs hdmi?
By Chadder007 on 7/26/2007 1:44:56 PM , Rating: 2
Wait.....so what is wrong with Dual Link DVI. Its not like its there is a problem using DL DVI, its already a standard and more video cards ship with it already anyway.


RE: vs hdmi?
By Slaimus on 7/26/2007 1:53:56 PM , Rating: 2
These companies do not want to pay the licensing fees to Silicon Image and the HDTV companies that own patents on DVI/HDMI.


RE: vs hdmi?
By bespoke on 7/26/2007 1:59:14 PM , Rating: 2
Slaimus is absolutely correct. Companies not wanting to pay licensing fees is the reason DisplayPort exists.


RE: vs hdmi?
By afkrotch on 7/28/2007 11:37:39 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is that most video cards only ship with a dual link DVI port and a single link DVI port. So not possible to power a pair of 30" LCD monitors. Course if you are rich enough to have a pair of 30" LCD monitors, you should be rich enough to get a vidcard with dual dual link DVI ports, which I'm not even certain they make.

It also supports audio. Also contrary to what someone else said earlier, DisplayPort is a competitor to HDMI. UDI on the other hand is a competitor also, but only for computer connections.

Both DisplayPort and UDI provide the same or higher (in the case of the latter) bandwith. DisplayPort also supports fiberoptics. UDI for the most part is dead.

I am personally looking forward to DisplayPort. It's a smaller cable and connection. Plus the fiberoptics is a huge bonus. All they need is better wireless device ranges and you can keep your PC in a completely seperate room. All you'd have at your computer desk is your keyboard, monitor, and mouse. It's also license free. Course, whether consumers will see a drop in price is up to the manufacturers.

While DisplayPort isn't compatible with DVI or HDMI it does allow pass-through of the signal.

quote:
from http://www.vesa.org/ “VESA developed the guideline in response to the industry interest in establishing a means for achieving interoperability between DisplayPort 1.1 devices and DVI 1.0 or HDMI compatible devices,” said Bill Lempesis, executive director, VESA. “Manufacturers can now provide their customers with the ability to connect a cable between a DisplayPort Source Device and a DVI 1.0/HDMI Sink Device (or vice versa) eliminating the need to purchase new equipment.


So for all those ppl asking about a convertor type cable, yes, it's possible.

I personally see more positives than negatives for DisplayPort. With AMD, Intel, and Nvidia (just a small list) supporting it, it's inevitable that any other company who wants to stay in the computer business will also start supporting it.

I hope they push DisplayPort hard and fast, cause I'm sick of my stupid DVI cable. I now keep around those stupid little end caps, after multiple pins getting bent. I was going to lan parties just about every weekend and would end up spending a short amount of time straightening out pins every now and again. After some time, I finally got some end caps to protect the ends. Wouldn't have been a problem if they pushed HDMI out faster for comps. Course seems like DisplayPort will beat HDMI to the punch.

HDMI can stay on HDTVs. They're far too ingrained in that field, than they were on computers.

Audio. None of that really changes. Sure it'll support it, but doesn't mean you have to use it. You can still roll with your standard soundcard and connections. You'll just have different connectors and cables for your monitor. For those ppl who buy OEM with built-in speakers on their monitor, they can deal with just a single cable.

What I would like is to have a connection between the vidcard and soundcard to allow the audio to go through the DisplayPort. Then have audio connections on the monitor itself. My monitor sits closer to my stereo, than my desktop sits to the stereo.

Or how about putting out lower power OLED displays and being able to pump power directly through a DisplayPort cable. That would rock. A monitor with just a single cable for power, audio, and video. Then it could wirelessly transmit the audio to my stereo. Oh well, a person can dream.


yikes bad info
By pesos on 7/26/2007 12:37:15 AM , Rating: 3
current 30" panels do not need "dual dvi" (two) ports as you state - they need a SINGLE "dual-link dvi" port to run 2560x1600. It's one port, one cable. It's just a higher density port and cable than a standard "single-link" dvi port/cable.




RE: yikes bad info
By James Holden on 7/26/2007 12:39:10 AM , Rating: 2
Looks like they corrected it I think.


RE: yikes bad info
By pesos on 7/26/2007 12:53:57 AM , Rating: 3
the grammar used still leads the reader to believe that more than one port is currently required for 2560x1600, but it isn't.


RE: yikes bad info
By PrinceGaz on 7/26/2007 9:54:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The new Samsung panel can process 10 bits of color depth with 2560 x 1600 resolutions via a single DisplayPort interface. Current high-resolution 30-inch displays required dual-link DVI ports to drive such high resolutions.


It would be better if it read

quote:
The new Samsung panel can process 10 bits of color depth with 2560 x 1600 resolutions via a DisplayPort interface. Current high-resolution 30-inch displays require a dual-link DVI port to drive such high resolutions.


Converter?
By Spuke on 7/26/2007 12:46:43 AM , Rating: 2
I suppose a converter would be needed until video cards start showing up with DisplayPort connectors. Are those converters being included with the monitors?




RE: Converter?
By Zurtex on 7/26/2007 3:24:26 AM , Rating: 3
Well the issue there really is that Display Port and DVI aren't electrically compatible, I mean HDMI and DVI are almost one of the same, bar a few difference that makes HDMI better for T.Vs and general home theatre systems.

So it's not like you could juat have a wire which at one end had some DVI or HDMI connector and at the other had a DisplayPort connector (or at least to the best of my knowledge). You'd need something in between that actually took and input and transformed it to something else.

Most likely, especially give that it's a Samsung monitor (good experience with them), is it will have Display Port and DVI dual-link. Or of course it just be bundled in to deals with a computer specially outfitted with DisplayPort.

It always strikes me as odd that DisplayPort is so little touted by companies yet when you look at the list of some of the companies that support it:

"AMD, Intel, Dell, Genesis Microchip, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Molex, NVIDIA, Philips, Samsung, Analogix, and Tyco Electronics."

It seems somewhat inevitable.


RE: Converter?
By cochy on 7/26/2007 9:05:36 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Most likely, especially give that it's a Samsung monitor (good experience with them), is it will have Display Port and DVI dual-link.


Well that's too bad because from what I read before DisplayPort uses less electronics thus allows for thinner panels. If you have to stick DVI in there also, you just negated this advantage.


What a waste...
By daftrok on 7/26/2007 12:51:42 AM , Rating: 2
Displayport....really? With the integration of HDMI everywhere, thats like someone coming out with a television that doesn't have a coaxial input but an alternative that might be slightly better. Seriously HDMI and DVI are set in stone. Thats like someone coming out with Betamax II in the '90s to compete with the VCR. If Displayport is like a LOT better than HDMI then I would consider it, but I'm sure companies will just come out with some sort of adapter to make it compatible with DVI/HDMI televisions/computers/receivers.




RE: What a waste...
By daftrok on 7/26/2007 12:52:57 AM , Rating: 2
Not HDMI, DVI my mistake.


RE: What a waste...
By Spivonious on 7/26/2007 9:10:28 AM , Rating: 2
HDMI is DVI with audio. They can be considered the same thing.


100Hz/120Hz
By m104 on 7/26/2007 2:50:59 AM , Rating: 4
I wonder if this 30-inch screen will run at 100Hz/120Hz...




RE: 100Hz/120Hz
By SignalPST on 7/26/2007 7:44:06 PM , Rating: 2
LED backlight too?


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