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Commercial shows Apple fans camped out for the iPhone 4S, marveling at the Samsung Galaxy S II

The past year's events have made it pretty clear that Apple and Samsung aren't the best of friends. Apple initially accused Samsung of copying Apple's iPhone and iPad designs when developing the Galaxy line, and a long list of lawsuits have been launched back and forth ever since around the globe.

Apple may have successfully killed Samsung's sales in some countries outside the U.S., but Samsung isn't going to take this lying down. In its latest commercial for the Galaxy S ll, Samsung makes fun of Apple fanboys by portraying a scene where they're all waiting in line hours in advance for the next release. While waiting, the fanboys are noticing passerby with phones that are "magnificent," and of course the phones in question are Galaxy S ll's.

The fanboys make pompous comments while waiting in line, such as "If it looks the same, how will people know I upgraded?" and an exchange between two fanboys that goes as follows:

Fanboy 1: I could never get a Samsung, I'm creative.

Fanboy 2: Dude you're a barista.

Check it out for youselves:

Source: YouTube



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Very well done
By MrTeal on 11/23/2011 10:30:04 AM , Rating: 5
It's pretty pointedly mocking Apple, without coming off as desperate like some of Microsoft's ads do. I like it.




RE: Very well done
By monstergroup on 11/23/2011 10:35:20 AM , Rating: 3
Which MS ads would those be?


RE: Very well done
By Tunnah on 11/23/2011 10:55:29 AM , Rating: 5
you wouldn't understand you're not creative enough


RE: Very well done
By Flunk on 11/23/2011 11:12:49 AM , Rating: 1
The laptop hunters ones.


RE: Very well done
By Digimonkey on 11/23/2011 11:45:17 AM , Rating: 2
The ones where they say they like the Mac laptops but they're to expensive for them? I wouldn't say that's mocking.


RE: Very well done
By jonmcc33 on 11/23/2011 12:06:09 PM , Rating: 5
Those aren't desperate. They point out the truth. That you can save money and get a better product. The problem with Apple hasn't been it's fanaticism as much as it has been that their products have always been overpriced. You still cannot get an Apple laptop for under $999.


RE: Very well done
By Helbore on 11/23/2011 12:57:31 PM , Rating: 4
You know, the ones with they guy pretending to be a PC and the other guy pretending to be a Mac and they then talk a bunch of nonsense to make their competitor look rubbish by comparison.

Oh wait, that's Apple.


RE: Very well done
By Samus on 11/23/2011 1:53:56 PM , Rating: 1
How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


RE: Very well done
By Samus on 11/23/2011 1:56:39 PM , Rating: 5
It's probably a number you've never heard of...


RE: Very well done
By Omega215D on 11/23/2011 2:37:39 PM , Rating: 2
It's a really obscure number. You've probably never heard of it


RE: Very well done
By kleinma on 11/23/2011 5:04:27 PM , Rating: 5
None, they simply 'occupy' the room where the bulb is out until someone changes it for them. They don't want to do that kind of hard work.


RE: Very well done
By citizend13 on 11/29/2011 1:42:03 PM , Rating: 2
they cant cause they're holding it wrong.

-sorry it's old but just cant resist.


RE: Very well done
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 11/23/2011 10:41:09 AM , Rating: 5
I await Pirks' response ;)

This commercial is GOLD!


RE: Very well done
By Makaveli on 11/23/2011 10:48:08 AM , Rating: 2
That Idouche was pretty funny i'm creative!


RE: Very well done
By vignyan on 11/23/2011 10:59:49 AM , Rating: 1
yeah... Can't wait to hear him cry his heart out....

I am not sure which is more annoying... Apple or its fanboys...


RE: Very well done
By quiksilvr on 11/23/2011 1:15:47 PM , Rating: 2
Is it sad I actually CTRL+F'd just to see if he did?


RE: Very well done
By Tony Swash on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By Reclaimer77 on 11/23/2011 4:56:12 PM , Rating: 3
Yes with headlines titled "Google are Pussies", Tony has provided us with another remarkably unbiased web link as proof for his absurd opinions.

Seriously Tony, no wonder you're this way. This reads as if it were written by a high school dropout with a sixth grade reading level. Garbage in, garbage out.


RE: Very well done
By nocturne_81 on 11/23/2011 6:21:22 PM , Rating: 2
lmao... never cease to amaze me..

If you want to, as you say, 'focus on the product'... With the exception of the cpu, the new iPhone's specs are almost identical to that of the initial Galaxy series... Ya.. the one that came out spring 2010..

I hate seeing the argument boiling down to 4g, though... The slightest bit of knowledge reveals that 40nm 4g modems are power hungry -- thus (current) 4g android handsets have shorter battery life at the expense of better performance. The kicker, though... why have there been 2 class action lawsuits involving iOS battery life, if that's an area it's supposed to be superior in..?


RE: Very well done
By spaced_ on 11/23/2011 9:12:02 PM , Rating: 3
This is actually incorrect. The specs/hardware on the iPhone 4S are actually quite impressive. Take a look at anand's review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s...

The GPU in particular seems quite impressive.

Though it won't last long. Competing Android phones will quickly take over in performance as usual as there's a much larger pool of competing hardware manufacturers to pick from. I imagine the first phone with a Tegra 3 in it will supercede any advantage the iPhone4S currently has.


RE: Very well done
By TakinYourPoints on 11/24/2011 6:02:05 AM , Rating: 2
Preliminary Tegra 3 GPU benchmarks put it below either of the A5 devices. It is much better than the Tegra 2, but the Tegra 2 was a joke.

Other SoCs may need to do their part to exceed the A5 in CPU or GPU performance, because right now it doesn't seem like it will come from NVIDIA's mobile parts. Perhaps license a GPU from PowerVR, I dunno.


RE: Very well done
By B3an on 11/25/2011 2:00:09 AM , Rating: 2
Almost countless Android phones have superior CPU's in them already and some phones have had them for 9+ months. The CPU will benefit more people than a GPU anyway - not everyone plays games.
The 4S is just a dualcore ARM Cortex A9 CPU design. Tons of other Android have this same CPU and are clocked higher. Performance is simply not as much better as it should be due to the fact that current Android phones run a OS thats a year+ old. ICS will fix that and benchmarks already show it's a big improvement.

Samsung have also now licensed the SGX 543MP2 GPU found in the iFad 2 / 4S.


RE: Very well done
By TakinYourPoints on 11/29/2011 4:45:51 AM , Rating: 1
Great, ICS means that it can "kind of" catch up to iOS, there are still hard hardware limitation on Android handsets given their GPUs. Android handsets leaping over in performance is inevitable though, but the timing window will be pretty poor given that the A6 will be out in the Spring.

I'm surprised that Android hardware has lagged so much given that they have the opportunity to update hardware much more frequently than Apple does. Really weird. I wonder when this will pay off.

And you're right that nobody really plays games on Android, who in their right mind buys one for that? You need developers for games.


RE: Very well done
By nocturne_81 on 11/23/2011 6:24:57 PM , Rating: 2
I almost forgot this bit...
quote:
Back when Apple didn't rule the planet's personal computing market...

lmao.. seriously..? Are you talking about 1989 with the Apple IIs? That's the last time I ever noticed Apple having a foothold in the pc marketplace.. though 'rule' -- they purposely decided never to make it that far.


RE: Very well done
By Fritzr on 11/23/2011 9:38:44 PM , Rating: 2
In 1989 the Commodore 64 had already secured it's place in the Guiness Book of World Records as the largest production run of any computer, anywhere. A record it still holds today :)

The Apple II was fading away, the c64/c128 still had a solid hold in the home market & the Amiga had a firm foothold in commercial video & graphics.

Apple has never held a commanding market share. The Apple II series targeted the hobbyist market and the Macs have always had a niche presence in publishing, art & audio.

I considered an Apple II in the 80s, but I found the Commodore 8bit computers to be more capable out of the box and very easy to hack.


RE: Very well done
By alcalde on 11/24/2011 9:07:48 PM , Rating: 3
Don't leave out Ataris! They were freaking Apple out because of a device available for the Atari ST called the Spectre that, once you equipped it with an Apple ROM, could emulate the Macintosh - actually some of the Ataris were faster (both machines used Motorola 68K processors), so you'd actually end up with a faster Mac with a higher res monitor! Atari also beat Apple to the portable punch when they released their first portable and then laptop and, equipped with a Spectre, Atari actually produced the first Mac laptop! :-) Although it was canceled, Atari also had a device called the "ST Pad" in development and prototypes existed.

So yes, both Commodore and Atari took turns showing up Apple back then.


RE: Very well done
By spaced_ on 11/23/2011 9:02:20 PM , Rating: 2
I find it more interesting that people queue for Apple products at all.

I assume Apple limits initial supply to create the demand for a queue in the first place. I also assume you can't just preorder like every other product on the planet. If I'm wrong, I don't understand it. I'd never waste my time standing in a queue all day and night to buy an overpriced overhyped wanky mobile phone. Even if I *really* wanted something that bad, I'd preorder and have it delivered to my door, or preorder at a store and pick it up when it arrived if they didn't deliver.

But hell, I guess if you enjoy the experience of waiting in a line with the possibility of meeting or having small talk with other evangelists who think the same way as you do I can see why people do it. Not all that different than lining up at a temple to pray.

Got to hand it to SJ and Apple marketing though. To create such faith in consumers is pretty impressive. I am certainly taking marketing/psychology tips from them. If I am ever start a company of my own, I will certainly keep in mind some of the techniques they use to create interest in their products.


RE: Very well done
By androticus on 11/26/2011 7:46:04 PM , Rating: 1
Apple's products are well designed and therefore enjoyable and largely drama-free to use. I am always amazed at the contrast in usability between, say, my iPad, and virtually everything in my entertainment system (TV, receiver, etc.).

I am happy to pay more for products that are very well designed and of high quality.

People attacking fans of Apple products often seem to paint them as obnoxious, but I rarely see Apple fans making nasty comments about those who don't like Apple products. I wonder if the Apple haters are creative enough to notice the irony? ;)


RE: Very well done
By spread on 11/23/2011 11:22:54 PM , Rating: 2
If you applied the same dedication to detail and attention to something that makes you money, you would be rich or at minimum have a nice fat salary.

Instead you waste your time sucking on crumbs from the rectum of Apple (TM). Congratulations, you are a loser. Keep it up. One day you can tell your grandchildren how you made the most of your life gargling the warm corporate diarrhea and dedicated your life to a shiny plastic toy. That's how real men live their lives, eh Tony? You will be forever remembered and respected (or not) for your actions.


RE: Very well done
By gwem557 on 11/25/2011 2:14:19 AM , Rating: 3
Apple rules the planet's personal computing market? Huh. Microsoft called. They want their hyperbole back.


RE: Very well done
By Omega215D on 11/23/2011 2:48:30 PM , Rating: 5
Hey, since Apple and their fans had no qualms about berating PC and Android users they have no right to complain about this little nugget of advertising. Hell, this thing isn't even far from the truth.


RE: Very well done
By Tony Swash on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By Omega215D on 11/23/2011 4:17:36 PM , Rating: 2
The Apple commercials attack PC and thinly veiled attack on the users, the Mac cultists attack the users of PC and Android and deeming those that use 'em are inferior or irrational beings. Watch The Cult of Mac sometime... but then again you might not get it because you, yourself, is part of the cult.

The iPhone commercials are the same in nature as are the iPhone/ Apple cultists.


RE: Very well done
By Tony Swash on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By Reclaimer77 on 11/23/2011 6:19:57 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
The nearly three year old iPhone 3GS already outsells all Android handsets in the US.


Outsells my ass! It's a free phone. I'm sure if Android gave away Galaxies for 99 cents they would "outsell" everyone too lmao.

Tony you're a trip.

And you're totally wrong, the ad is genius. Jobs is dead. Now is the PERFECT time to chip away at this ridiculous manufactured sub-culture he created. There's a word here that you're refusing to use; ignorance. The ad doesn't portray Apple's popularity, but only the ignorance of those who make it so.

The add can't really "fail", Samsung doesn't need it to succeed. Their sales are very strong already. Any customers gained, and there will be many, make it a success.


RE: Very well done
By abhaxus on 11/24/2011 2:55:35 AM , Rating: 5
Had someone ask me the other day about the iphone 4s. I asked them why they were sure it was the phone for them. Their response: "well, it's the iphone, it's the best phone right?"

they were holding an evo, so I asked, "well, did you know the iphone is only a 3G device? and that it doesn't include turn by turn navigation?"

They didn't believe me. The moronic Apple subculture has managed to convince people that they are the end-all-be-all of devices. That's fine, IMO. Let the morons get an iPhone. I'm perfectly happy to have the CHOICE to purchase an android phone, and the CHOICE to customize it how I see fit.


RE: Very well done
By nocturne_81 on 11/23/2011 6:36:35 PM , Rating: 2
Eh, sad but true... I'm sure if Apple rebranded an old winmobile 2k3se smartphone as the 'iPhone Zero' for free with a contract, they'd sell out instantly and hold up the entire low end market.

But, just because it's true doesn't make it any less ridiculous... lol


RE: Very well done
By Reclaimer77 on 11/23/2011 5:00:11 PM , Rating: 3
Exactly, Apple attacking the PC is the same negative advertising technique that you're slamming Samsung for on this ad. Be consistent. Everyone in that commerical was a paid actor, no "Apple users" are being attacked. Only their Cult of Ignorance and Omnipotence is.


RE: Very well done
By kleinma on 11/23/11, Rating: 0
RE: Very well done
By Omega215D on 11/23/2011 5:27:32 PM , Rating: 4
Oh the irony of that 1984 Apple commercial.


RE: Very well done
By nocturne_81 on 11/23/2011 6:31:53 PM , Rating: 3
I take it you don't follow the results of various hacking conventions like DefCON, which award prizes to hackers for exploits...

Really sad but true, and entirely prozen... you take a Mac device, a PC, and a linux box and stick them in a room full of hackers... First box to go down is always the Mac box... second is always *nix, due to extremely well published enterprise vulnerabilities, and last -- the windows box.

Honestly, how many mac users do you know? I'll give Apple their credit with the iCraze, but they haven't even touched pc market share since the advent of the iMAC. On the pc platform, they get 5% tops... exactly where they've been stuck for the last 20 years.


RE: Very well done
By Tony Swash on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By ShaolinSoccer on 11/23/2011 8:31:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
the Mac world is overwhelmingly free of malware.


lol, Macs ARE malware! Every person I know of that own Macs have run into all sorts of problems with trying to get software to run properly on it. And as soon as there's an update, that software starts to fail. Your best bet is to not even install anything on it or dual boot...


RE: Very well done
By Tony Swash on 11/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By alcalde on 11/24/2011 9:13:53 PM , Rating: 2
Double-digit growth of tiny numbers doesn't actually mean much. Windows has what, 85% or 90% of the market? It's not possible for them to have double-digit growth, is it?

Look at it this way: the Apple desktop only has a few times the market share of the Linux desktop, and Linux has no marketing department and spends $0 on advertising.


RE: Very well done
By nocturne_81 on 11/24/2011 6:01:39 AM , Rating: 3
Well, personally I have only once personally experienced an infection on one of my a windows pc's... the blaster worm, more than a decade ago (got it from napster... lol)... I wasn't even running any av software back then (not many were). The only ever comparable annoyance I ever had was back during pre-sp1 XP when pinging certain ports caused the rpc client to crash (simple kpf firewall rule fixed that). Since then (yes, about a decade now) I have never encountered any problems with a windows box that I wasn't asking for.

Contrastingly, all my tech-incompetent family members that switched over during the iCraze... well, they haven't been so lucky. My sister hasn't been able to print in two years -- can't figure out how to clear the queue (though, I'd consider it a minor problem compared to buying 4 macbooks in 3 years..). But hey -- not my problem if a mac user isn't bright enough to google it. I can just say I only do pc's, and let the laughter build inside. Not to mention how nasty some of those quicktime exploits can be... Thank god I'm on a windows box where security updates are free, even if you have an illegal copy -- unlike Mac, where updates are sparse, and typically cost money.


RE: Very well done
By TakinYourPoints on 11/26/11, Rating: 0
RE: Very well done
By RjBass on 11/28/2011 11:16:25 AM , Rating: 2
Every time Apple comes out with a new version of OSX they charge around $30 for it and call it a new cat name when under the hood it is just the same OS with a few new updates and security fixes.

When Microsoft releases a new version of the same OS they call it a Service Pack or SP. They too include new updates and security fixes, but they don't charge a single penny for it.

Does that answer your question?


RE: Very well done
By TakinYourPoints on 11/29/2011 4:37:13 AM , Rating: 2
Point releases are similar, OS 10.7.1, 10.7.2, 10.7.3, etc. Security updates and bug fixes, totally free.

I've been through every upgrade of Windows since 2.0 and OS X since 10.2 (20+ years compared to 9), and OS X updates are similarly significant. In the case of 10.4 it was a more substantial upgrade than even the move from XP to Vista in terms of under the hood changes and features added. 10.5 and 10.7 are as big as any major Windows version I've seen.

So no, your assumptions regarding service packs and OS X updates are completely incorrect.


RE: Very well done
By Joz on 11/26/2011 1:52:36 AM , Rating: 2
Holy...Google batman!

Pirks still hasn't responded!


RE: Very well done
By pxavierperez on 11/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By TakinYourPoints on 11/24/11, Rating: -1
RE: Very well done
By Motoman on 11/25/2011 8:39:22 AM , Rating: 1
Dunno...seen the ads a couple of times. They just don't seem douchey enough...and the mere thought that they'd even consider buying a non-Apple product is preposterous anyway - whether or not the other product is clearly superior. Everyone knows that if Apple was marketing an iLumpofcoal vs., well, whatever...they'd sell an iLumpofcoal faster than they could get Chinese 6 year-olds to dig them out of the ground.


RE: Very well done
By km9v on 11/28/2011 12:35:51 PM , Rating: 2
Despite the fact the Samsung is a great phone, better than the iPhone. My wife still wants an iPhone even though she has a better Galaxy S. Apparently, she is under the false impression that the Iphone is cool somehow.


RE: Very well done
By TakinYourPoints on 11/29/2011 4:39:34 AM , Rating: 2
Well, the iPhone is faster hardware with much better developer support and a good OS.

Your wife has good taste.


By GotThumbs on 11/23/2011 10:43:40 AM , Rating: 5
Thanks Samsung for an entertaining AD and a great product.

It amazes my how so many people flock to Apple IProducts with Apple has one of the most restrictive environments out there. I just don't understand why Apple has NOT been sued for their lock-down methods and content controlling system. I can understand the need when dealing with children, but I'm an adult and can make my own decisions regarding the downloading of content. You can't even load your own content without going through Apples Gate product...ITunes.

People choose to give up their freedom to be Fashonistas... Thats their choice, but I will never own an Apple product.




By GuinnessKMF on 11/23/2011 11:28:30 AM , Rating: 5
Dude, you're a barista.


By DJ Brandon on 11/23/2011 12:16:06 PM , Rating: 2
L M F A O !


By markuss232 on 11/23/2011 2:38:47 PM , Rating: 2
Boom, roasted!


By Omega215D on 11/23/2011 2:42:20 PM , Rating: 5
Barista... just one of the many "jobs" held by a hipster in skinny jeans who claims to be unique but instead follows the trends of skinny jeans, Apple products and act as if they were superior to regular people.

After watching Cult of Mac special on CNBC and dealing with the large amount of hipsters in NYC I have no respect for these people.


By smitty3268 on 11/23/2011 9:47:17 PM , Rating: 2
LMFAO. This needs to be green.


By iamezza on 11/24/2011 12:09:33 PM , Rating: 2
I think this is my favourite Dailytech post of all time!


By Rukkian on 11/23/2011 12:55:12 PM , Rating: 2
While I do not personally own apple products (except for my wife's hand-me-down ipods since she seems to need to upgrade every year) I do see the appeal for some people with the simplicity. What I think gets people (on this board and other tech sites) annoyed is all of the sheeple that simply get every idevice created so they can be "cool" and because everybody else wants one. Most people I know with one try to convert me, and while there are good points, I just cannot get behind the closed system or condone some of their practices.

My brother actually tried to convince me not to get a droid (waiting for the galaxy nexus) as even though he likes the droid phones he has tried better, he is stuck due to how much he has purchased through Itunes, which just emphasized why I do not like iproducts.

In the end, I think it is a personal preference and one I am glad I get to make, as if apple (or droid) went away, the technology would probably suffer from the lack of competition.


By Cheesew1z69 on 11/23/2011 1:06:49 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Quit 'trying' to be so pompous and smug, It's becoming pathetic
And this coming from an Apple user....quite ironic...


By petrosy on 11/23/2011 5:31:35 PM , Rating: 1
Yes I have t agree with you that one should just enjoy their phone.

But if the idea of Malware/Viruses is keeping you from Android, you have made a mistake.

1st of all don't belive anti-virus software makers when they say you need antivirus software.
2nd if malware and virus is so prevelant on Android how coem no one has actually ever caught one or knows of anyone who has....just food for thought.


By nocturne_81 on 11/23/2011 6:42:10 PM , Rating: 2
Apple doesn't have security vulnerabilities..? Seriously?

Albeit, Apple's biggest problem with security has always been Quicktime, which has thankfully given all you fanboys the ability to jailbreak. But keep in mind these vulnerabilities can let a multitude of nasty malware -- it's just that hackers don't really care about a product with 5% of the marketshare, Apple's only saving grace on the security front.


By Cheesew1z69 on 11/23/2011 12:14:08 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
It’s similar to Apple’s App Store lockdown on iOS devices: the Amazon Appstore is the only game in town on this probably-soon-to-be-very-popular Android device
As usual, you leave the important shit out...

key words : the Amazon Appstore is the only game in town on this probably-soon-to-be-very-popular Android device

Why you think Amazon is going to have ANY influence on NON-Amazon items is beyond me but I guess in your Apple mushed brain anything is possible.


By matty123 on 11/23/2011 12:22:36 PM , Rating: 2
And the even more important...

"About

I’m Marco Arment, and I’m a web and iPhone software developer in the suburbs of New York City. This is where I write and share."

Through seriosly doubt the android market would ever replace the google market as the default app store in fact I would say it's far more likely that at some point amazon will allow the google market to be installed easily on the fire


By Cheesew1z69 on 11/23/2011 1:04:31 PM , Rating: 2
Figures, he always post some shit from someone who has ties to Apple somehow. I guess Tony can't make up his own mind so he has to post shit from everyone else.


By Fritzr on 11/23/2011 1:04:28 PM , Rating: 2
Amazon<>Android.

Amazon forked the Android operating system and will be installing Amazon-Android on their tablet.

Although they do not have other Android App Stores featured, they do not lock out foreign apps the way that Apple does. Rather they do it the way Nokia does. If you use only the icons, you are restricted to the registered app store. If you are able to find and manually install apps, then many more sources become available. This means Apple style security for those who are not tech savvy and Android openness for those who take the time to learn how to do it.

Like Unix and it's clones or the J2ME feature phones, Android comes in multiple variations that are mostly compatible and it is up to the owner of that phone to locate the apps compatible with their version of Android.

Yes it is a little more effort to maintain, but you, the enduser, get to choose which OS, (iOS, WinMo, WP7, Android-variant) works best for you.

For me a J2ME feature phone has the apps I need. so I will pass on the Apple tax of higher price on the handset & phone plans.

Pricewise and featurewise I am still looking at the Nook tablet (also a non-standard Android with it's own proprietary app store)


By Camikazi on 11/23/2011 5:02:23 PM , Rating: 1
The only reason Amazon can and will do this is cause they have their own app store, their own video distribution store, their own music store. No other phone maker has this so none of them can do it they all rely on Google Market so no, lock downs like this will be for very very few devices and only from companies who have the resources to have all these stores by themselves.


By nocturne_81 on 11/24/2011 6:21:40 AM , Rating: 2
I take it you missed all the news that although Amazon will provide the only official app store for their devices, there is still nothing stopping anyone using their device from installing any manually downloaded android app.. Let alone, android market could still probaly ported with very little effort.


By jimbojimbo on 11/23/2011 12:17:35 PM , Rating: 5
iTunes is just about the worst program I've ever used. It's so bloated and so freaking slow it actually boggles the mind. Why does it have to install so many other damn applications when you install it? Why when you uninstall iTunes does it leave some of those apps behind? Why does it basically try to take over as your default programs for so many things when it's absolutely horrible at all of them?

I'm with you. I've always said that if I have to use iTunes I just won't get it. Ever. I just feel sorry for the poor shmucks out there that invested tons of money buying music on that crappy system and can't use that music anywhere else now. Apple's plan all along.


By nocturne_81 on 11/23/2011 7:07:11 PM , Rating: 2
Take it with a grain of salt... You can't deny that Apple made purchasing music far easier a process than stealing it something which they deserve to be lauded for.

But still, they were never the first at anything... just the easiest.


By Reclaimer77 on 11/23/2011 7:24:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You can't deny that Apple made purchasing DRM music...


Fixed. What's funny is they finally removed DRM from iTunes about a year ago (after making gillions by charging $0.30 extra for "premium DRM-Free files), but iCloud uses DRM on anything you download from it that you previously bought with iTunes. EVEN if you paid the ridiculous 30 cent DRM removal fee originally through iTunes! Wtf Apple?

http://gigaom.com/2011/06/08/apple-icloud-drm/

Such a whore of a company, with so many idiots who don't know any better to prop them up.


By nocturne_81 on 11/24/2011 6:16:15 AM , Rating: 1
Eh... I am admittedly a pirate, and I know what I do is mostly wrong...

As such, I can't complain when companies try to fight against piracy..

Great example... one of our local towns recently installed dozens of traffic cameras, which prompted a few citizens to start a committee railing against them, trying to get them removed. Now, honestly -- I break laws everyday (I'm breaking 3 right now), but how can any *##hole create any argument against a traffic camera?! If you break the law intentionally and get caught -- own up to it! Deal with the consequences of your own actions and stop whining.

Though with iTunes... I have even less sympathy. You could have purchased the same exact music anywhere else (for probably less) and maintain your rights to use it how you please. You also have to understand the licensing situation... until the FCC gets off their #$$'s and clearly defines proper usage, all of us who still own cd's are technically not allowed to create digital copies to toss on all our devices -- as far as the law is concerned, you only have the right to play your cd. Such draconian licensing situations necessitate Apple's DRM (they need to keep the deal sweet to keep getting that exclusive content), especially when you are talking about popping your music onto a server to be accessed from anywhere. It's not right -- but it's not entirely wrong.


Well done Samsung!
By masamasa on 11/23/2011 10:49:50 AM , Rating: 2
And classy...




RE: Well done Samsung!
By masamasa on 11/23/2011 10:50:39 AM , Rating: 2
Btw, my wife has this phone...it's pretty damn sweet. Huge screen, super thin, fast, etc.


RE: Well done Samsung!
By vignyan on 11/23/2011 11:01:53 AM , Rating: 2
mine too... But we both like my focus to her phone....


RE: Well done Samsung!
By masamasa on 11/23/2011 12:59:16 PM , Rating: 2
Haven't tried that one yet.


Poor taste
By Aaron M on 11/23/2011 2:06:24 PM , Rating: 1
I'm not sure what the point of the commercial is, other than to fuel fanboy wars. I've never liked the "I'm a Mac" commercials, and this is even worse. Samsung is just mocking iPhone customers, which is just preaching to the choir of anti-iPhone fanboys who already want nothing to do with iPhone. Samsung surely can't expect to make converts out of the customers they're mocking.




RE: Poor taste
By TakinYourPoints on 11/24/2011 5:43:39 AM , Rating: 2
Pretty much. Fanboys of any kind are annoying, and this gives Android fanboys a chance to go hurr durr.

And as you said, it does this by attacking a "type" rather than selling based on the merit of the device alone. With slower hardware/performance and weak developer/enterprise support, the Galaxy is a hard sell if you go by facts alone. Might as well attack "iDrones" instead. At least they pointed out the bigger screen, that's one legit reason.


RE: Poor taste
By Helbore on 11/24/2011 6:50:05 AM , Rating: 2
It's simple. It's divisive and gets people talking about the advert. See that link to watch the video of it? That there is free advertising for Samsung. Where they would have paid for a slot on a TV station, they've now got a viral video running round the net, getting lots of people talking about it.

They know this won't convince Apple fans to buy a Galaxy. They also know they aren't going to convince such fanboys whatever they do. What this does is get Samsung's phones more well-known amongst the much larger audience of people who aren't tech nerd fanboys.

The fact the ad went viral will be enough for the marketing team behind this to be getting a big, fat bonus.


Spirit of competition
By ConexionPoint on 11/23/2011 3:43:51 PM , Rating: 2
Well it is obvious that Samsung started this just prior to the holiday shopping frenzy, iPhone has overall consideration rate within consumers and is gaining market share within the business enterprise. In our company alone they replaced every single highly expensive business telephone with a iPhone docked into a ifusion smart station running Cisco mobile app. I now have one devise for all my personal and business communications needs. They told us all the power saving alone in one year from the old desk phone paid for the entire project. Nobody at this point can come close to this however please try for us consumers really enjoy all the new and innovated products developed from the spirit of competition.




RE: Spirit of competition
By justjc on 11/24/2011 7:44:31 PM , Rating: 2
HP and webOS could have, if it wasn't for Léo Apotheker deciding to kill everything HP could be.


Chicago douches
By jimbojimbo on 11/23/2011 12:11:53 PM , Rating: 3
"If it looks the same how will people know I upgraded?"
Ha! That's exactly what Apple fanboys thought when they saw the 4S come out. They weren't disappointed necessarily in that it was called a 5 but that it looked the same as a 4 so they couldn't broadcast to the world that they have the newest igadget. Hilarious.




It's the truth.
By Estienne Taylor on 11/27/2011 12:01:00 AM , Rating: 3
All of Apple's fanbois I see doesn't care about having the latest hardware specifications because they they are too busy glamoring how great their phones is when they are getting a generation behind technology like their computers for a premium.




not bad samsung..
By zodiacfml on 11/24/2011 7:32:00 AM , Rating: 2
not bad.... i thought this is going to be a tasteless commercial.




love
By p05esto on 11/24/2011 10:58:51 PM , Rating: 2
Love it, Apple and their horde of trolls piss me off. Get a clue Apple consumers, you are all sheep headed for the slaughter, lol. You all dress, talk, eat, drive and look the same - like a total douche!




What??!!
By Autisticgramma on 11/29/2011 3:04:31 PM , Rating: 2
The Galaxy S II is pretty amazing.

This commercial really isn't all that. Not as brutal as it could be,(or you all make it out to be) but the 'I'm creative - Dude your a barrista, hit the mark.' Even if barrista is too complex a word for the guy who pours coffee into a glass.

If we're going to stretch: the dude who makes warm shakes with coffee flavor.

It calls out fanboyism, in, I dare say a nice way.




Stupid
By whoisnader on 11/23/11, Rating: 0
RE: Stupid
By TakinYourPoints on 11/24/11, Rating: 0
In my books
By Miggleness on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: In my books
By cliffr2k on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: In my books
By bug77 on 11/23/2011 11:22:31 AM , Rating: 2
That's big, good thing you posted it twice.

The phone designers of the world, shape their handsets after your thumb. Ummm, yeah.


RE: In my books
By akse on 11/23/2011 12:40:40 PM , Rating: 2
At least with Nokia N9 they did. One of the most important thing was that you can easily use the device with only one hand. No physical buttons just all screen. Its quite tiny in hand even with 3.9" screen since the screen goes all the way to the edges of the device.

With Galaxy S2 even with my long fingers I can't reach the top left corner with my right thumb.. that kinda sucks. I don't wanna use 2 hands to operate my phone or weirdly move my hand with the phone to reach it.

I'm saying that about 4" screen is pretty optimal, you can get quite small device with big enough screen. 4.3-> is too big imo.


RE: In my books
By bug77 on 11/23/2011 2:57:09 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know, I've never been too successful at multi-touch using just my thumb. Just sayin'.


RE: In my books
By Kurz on 11/23/2011 11:22:58 AM , Rating: 2
You are holding it wrong.
I can operate the phone with little to no issues.

Unless you have really tiny hands (friend of mine has small hands) I don't see how you can't use the Samsung GS2.


RE: In my books
By retrospooty on 11/23/2011 12:04:06 PM , Rating: 3
"Unless you have really tiny hands"

There you have it. iphones are for people with small hands... And you know what that correlates to ;)

I knew all these Apple fanboys were overcompensating for something!


RE: In my books
By drycrust3 on 11/23/2011 12:56:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
There is a reason apple stick with narrower screen. I tried the samgsung one. My thumb can't reach the entire screen.

So you're telling us that at the very least the new Galaxy, and possibly previous models as well, are actually quite unlike the iPad and that the differences are "obviously perceptable"? That is an interesting opinion.


RE: In my books
By gladiatorua on 11/23/2011 3:19:38 PM , Rating: 2
So apple is too lazy(stupid, afraid, apple) to innovate?
Big screen is not the problem. The UI is. It's not that hard to change UI for one hand on bigger screens. Android allows you to manage UI so it would be more comfortable for you. And I predict that in next 6 month we will see UI overhaul directed at "one-had big-screen" "problem" from Google or some third party on Android. And then apple will steal it.


RE: In my books
By jnemesh on 11/23/2011 11:31:48 AM , Rating: 5
If only it had a bigger screen, had 4G wireless, had a removable battery, was half the weight, had glass that didnt shatter after a 3 foot drop, had expandable memory via a MicroSD slot, and the browser was able to render the same websites I view on my PC, I would be all over that in an instant!


RE: In my books
By cjohnson2136 on 11/23/2011 11:41:21 AM , Rating: 1
Actually for the rendering of the website blame the website developers for that because companies are creating mobile websites that look better on mobile phones and are looking for the user agent saying it is coming from iOS or Android so you get redirected to a mobile site. If the developer/company doesn't have a mobile site that redirects you you will get the normal website.


RE: In my books
By Fritzr on 11/23/2011 12:44:04 PM , Rating: 2
The iPod Touch has that override available. Check your phone's settings or Google the question to see if it is answered on a forum.

Usually the mobile website has a leading "m.". Try entering the address directly in the browser address bar without the "m."...you might be able to just delete it, saving a lot of typing.

The mobile sites are designed for those screens that are smaller than 2x2. Trying to get anything done on the desktop version of the site is near impossible with one of those phones. So you should be thanking the developers for making their sites phone friendly rather than cursing them for not making their sites available only to the phones with large screens :)


RE: In my books
By cjohnson2136 on 11/23/2011 1:37:52 PM , Rating: 2
No I agree with you but the original post was blaming the iPhone for rendering the page differently. That has ntohing to do with the iPhone and has everything to do with the developer making the webpage more suited for the phone. I am a developer and do do this :)


RE: In my books
By Omega215D on 11/23/2011 2:47:13 PM , Rating: 2
Haven't the Apple fans told you? Anything relating to PC is bad for you.

*Justin Long should forever be typcasted as a douchebag (Idiocracy, DH4 and the Apple commercials).


Hmm...
By messele on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Hmm...
By GuinnessKMF on 11/23/2011 11:29:21 AM , Rating: 3
Never heard of 3PM before?


RE: Hmm...
By messele on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Hmm...
By Fritzr on 11/23/2011 12:52:27 PM , Rating: 2
The classic Grand Release "You cannot get it until Friday, sorry ... stores open at 12:01A on Friday"

Maybe Apple does it differently, they are Apple after all, but any major chain promoting a product that has people lining up hours in advance will do a midnight launch to comply with the manufacturer's restriction on initial sale date.

Check out Best Buy's Black Friday door busters. You had better be lined up Thursday at three if you want to get one of the 10 tablets/4 keyboard docks that will be advertised as limited stock loss leaders.


RE: Hmm...
By Dr of crap on 11/23/2011 12:52:51 PM , Rating: 2
Apple fan anyone?


RE: Hmm...
By messele on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
Still not impress
By cliffr2k on 11/23/11, Rating: -1
RE: Still not impress
By masamasa on 11/23/2011 12:58:37 PM , Rating: 1
Grow a bigger thumb! =P


RE: Still not impress
By HrilL on 11/23/2011 1:12:31 PM , Rating: 4
Well Sumsung didn't say it was made for midgits.


RE: Still not impress
By axeman1957 on 11/23/2011 5:20:49 PM , Rating: 3
You are holding it wrong


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