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Tizen phones may actually launch next month

Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KRX:005935) (KRX:005930) seemingly laid to rest the possibility of launching a Tizen device, saying it had "no current plans" to market such a device.  Hopes for a Tizen offering seemingly further weakened when Samsung signed a ten-year licensing agreement with Android OS-maker Google Inc. (GOOG).
 
But a new leaked photo shows a near finished Tizen device, begging the question of perhaps Samsung is simply playing its cards close to its chest and letting the press believe what it wants them to.
 
The render shows the ZEQ 9000 (pronounced "zeke").  Reportedly this is the device that was set to launch on Japan's NTT Docomo Inc. (TYO:9437), under the SKU SC-03F.  But earlier this month NTT Docomo officials told The Wall Street Journal, "The market is not big enough to support three operating systems at this time."
 
(Side Note: That hurts for Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), the Mozilla Foundation, Blackberry, Ltd. (TSE:BB), too.)

ZEQ 9000
But according to MovePlayer, a news blog in Samsung's home nation of South Korea, Samsung will look to release a single-SIM version under the SKU SM-Z9000 as a budget device in its home country, and an international dual-SIM global phone SKU SM-Z9005 in other regions later this year.

Reportedly Samsung will make the devices officials at a Feb. 23 press event at the 2014 Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain.

The UI shown in the leaked shots looks like a cross between the BlinkFeed UI seen in last year's HTC Corp. (TPE:2498) One (a skinned build of Android).
HTC BlinkFeed
HTC's BlinkFeed

It also borrows some style elements from Microsoft's minimalist tile-based Windows Phone 8 UI

Microsoft smartphone

It appears that circular app icons will be a key design element in the UI.  In terms of skeumorphism (lighting effects), it falls somewhere between a gaudy, jewel-like appearance like older builds of iOS, and the hyper-flat iOS 7 and Windows Phone.

Not much is known about the Samsung Tizen device except its expected screen resolution (WXGA) and processor (a Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM) Snapdragon 800, clocked at 2.3 GHz).
Tizen


Tizen, like Google's Android OS and the Mozilla Foundation's Firefox OS, is built on a Linux kernel.  Aside from Samsung, its biggest supporter has been Intel Corp. (INTC).

Source: MovePlayer



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I'd but one if they price competitively
By stm1185 on 1/28/2014 2:07:18 PM , Rating: 3
Sell a Snapdragon 800 720p 5inch phone for $150 with Tizen and I'd buy it. Cut the profit margin to the bone on the hardware to push OS adoption.




RE: I'd but one if they price competitively
By Flunk on 1/28/2014 3:56:18 PM , Rating: 2
And ruin their fabulous margins? You know that's not the Samsung way!


By stm1185 on 1/28/2014 4:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
On the hardware, but then they get to be the big evil corporation stealing 30% of the app makers money.

Hardware profits are bound to fall anyway, they should take the chance to get in on the software profits.


RE: I'd but one if they price competitively
By nafhan on 1/28/2014 5:22:37 PM , Rating: 3
Tizen primarily exists for two reasons:
1. Leverage against Google.
2. Related, backup plan if Android becomes undesirable for some reason.

If they release any Tizen devices any time soon it will be for lower volume, very low end devices. They could avoid the small Google Play fee, but otherwise the disadvantages outweigh the positives. You're not going to see a Snapdragon 800 device!


By stm1185 on 1/30/2014 6:12:49 PM , Rating: 2
Well it looks like that leverage worked. Google no longer a competitor, takes a huge loss, and Samsung commits to Android.


Will NEVER buy a phone with tiles!
By jnemesh on 1/29/2014 12:32:20 PM , Rating: 1
If Samsung goes with this design, it's going to make my shopping MUCH easier next time I'm up for a new phone...I WILL NOT buy a Samsung with this hideous UI! I am tired of people thinking I need to have all of this information bombarding my eyes every time I power on the phone to check the time! If I WANT to see my notifications, I will pull them down from the top of the screen!

Looks like I am getting a Nexus or a Google Play edition next time.




RE: Will NEVER buy a phone with tiles!
By blzd on 1/30/2014 1:22:30 AM , Rating: 3
Yes it's almost as if they want us to be able to access our information quickly and easily, even at a glance. What kind of nonsense is that?

Don't they realize we actually just want to stare at clean unbroken wallpapers the majority of the time? If we wanted information to be presented we would damn well perform a gesture or three to get to it!

/sarcasm


RE: Will NEVER buy a phone with tiles!
By stm1185 on 1/30/2014 6:14:53 PM , Rating: 2
He doesn't want to bombarded with info everytime he turns on his phone to "check the time". So when he turns on the phone to quickly see information, he only wants the time, email/social/app... nah, just the time.

If only they made a device for that.


By delphinus100 on 1/30/2014 8:43:58 PM , Rating: 2
There's a reason we used to specifically call them wrist watches...

As I've often said, having to pull something out of your pocket or off your belt just to get the time/date, is like going back to pocket watches.


By Aloonatic on 2/1/2014 4:33:25 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I am tired of people thinking I need to have all of this information bombarding my eyes every time I power on the phone to check the time!
Buy

a

watch

That is all.


innovation
By Argon18 on 1/28/14, Rating: -1
RE: innovation
By p05esto on 1/28/2014 2:07:02 PM , Rating: 4
Don't knock it until you use it. The live tiles and non-icon interface is pretty nice, that was some definite innovation over Apple/Android. Did Apple icons show status of email, events, news, weather and so much more? On Win phones you can changes the tile sizes to display more/less of the live content. It's pretty slick, the whole layout is very fresh feeling. So yes, I'd say it's great innovation.


RE: innovation
By greenchinesepuck on 1/28/2014 2:59:01 PM , Rating: 4
Talking to braindead fuck like Argon18 is a waste of your time, you'd get more understanding and meaningful reply if you talk to a piece of fucking wood


RE: innovation
By Spuke on 1/28/2014 3:53:19 PM , Rating: 3
LMAO!


RE: innovation
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/28/14, Rating: -1
RE: innovation
By Argon18 on 1/29/14, Rating: -1
RE: innovation
By nafhan on 1/28/2014 5:24:46 PM , Rating: 2
Eh... I've got widgets for the things I want to have live updates on, and static icons (that are easy to distinguish) for things where I want to actually open the apps. Best of both worlds, IMO.


RE: innovation
By Motoman on 1/28/2014 9:09:03 PM , Rating: 1
Meh...honestly is there anything it does that you can't do already with widgets on an Android device?

Anything I feel like having that kind of active display with on an Android phone I can just put it's widget up. Weather, news, email, whatever. Who gives a sh1t if it was a tile or a widget? And I actually really like the fact that I can just have the 1 or 2 widgets on a screen and then icons for other things that don't need to be active. It's a better use of screen space.


RE: innovation
By Alexvrb on 1/29/2014 11:50:45 PM , Rating: 2
Err, that's not really any different from making some tiles big and others small. Plus you can just swipe and have access to all apps very quickly in a list (which you can hop around in by letter easily), so even less-used apps are never hard to reach.


RE: innovation
By Mint on 1/31/2014 3:13:02 AM , Rating: 2
How are regular icons a better use of space than small tiles? They're just as big and can't convey any information.

Yes, tiles are very much like widgets, except they have a uniform look and all support the medium and small sizes at a minimum. By comparison, my Android screen looks like a mess. But I'm hooked on AMOLED and the inductive stylus of the Note series, so not WP for me yet.


RE: innovation
By Argon18 on 1/29/2014 12:39:09 PM , Rating: 1
Did Apple icons show status of email, events, news, weather and so much more?

Yes, they're called widgets.


RE: innovation
By Nekrik on 1/28/2014 2:10:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I use a different OS at work (it's free, comes from some open source project) and it looks like what I put in my toilet. Also, if I had wheels, I'd be a wagon.


RE: innovation
By Captain Orgazmo on 1/28/2014 2:38:28 PM , Rating: 2
By chance does the OS resemble a tiny sailboat being bombarded by yellow rain and gigantic logs falling from the sky?

If I had wheels I'd be a paraplegic... errr

http://youtu.be/GwJS0Rh7--0?t=2m28s


RE: innovation
By retrospooty on 1/28/14, Rating: 0
RE: innovation
By troysavary on 1/28/2014 3:09:06 PM , Rating: 2
If the tile interface is as hated as you claim, why is everyone copying it?


RE: innovation
By retrospooty on 1/28/2014 3:51:03 PM , Rating: 4
Who copied it? HTC but later dumped it? Samsung on a yet un-released ROM? The question will be who KEEPS it.


RE: innovation
By troysavary on 1/28/2014 7:58:40 PM , Rating: 2
Sony has tiles on the PS4. A bunch of low-end Chinese Android tablets do as well, but those don't really count, I guess. People claim iOS 7 did, but I don't really see it. And now Samsung, but not in the next Galaxy, as some had guessed. Apparently, this is Tizen, not Android.


RE: innovation
By retrospooty on 1/29/2014 3:31:58 PM , Rating: 2
There you have it... Looks like they are already not keeping it. http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358290/google-s...


RE: innovation
By themaster08 on 1/29/2014 2:04:12 AM , Rating: 2
Take a look at the Samsung Galaxy PRO line of tablets and their tile-like homescreens (which will apparently be coming to their phones also).


RE: innovation
By retrospooty on 1/29/2014 9:25:33 AM , Rating: 2
If I did I would turn that crap off and go back to the normal icon/widget UI.


RE: innovation
By Argon18 on 1/29/2014 12:52:47 PM , Rating: 1
"I don't agree with what you said, I love the way you said it!

But on topic, I am not aware of anyone calling the tiles "innovation". Most people that talk about them do so negatively. It hasn't been too well received by the public. "


Haha, thanks. I honestly don't mind that they include such things in a new OS, but it ought to be a user-selectable option. So that people can have the choice, and choose what works best for them.

The problem occurs when they suddenly make a drastic change in the way a person interacts with their computer, and they force it on you. Microsoft: "You know your established workflow? The way you've been using for PC for over a decade now? Well we're taking that away, and changing your shit all around, and you're going to like it because we said so." This is what Microsoft has done.

The same occurred a couple years ago with Ubuntu, and their "unity" interface. Loads of people (including myself) hate it, and won't use Ubuntu because of it. The moral of the story, is don't mess with people's workflow!!


RE: innovation
By retrospooty on 1/29/2014 2:45:47 PM , Rating: 2
"The problem occurs when they suddenly make a drastic change in the way a person interacts with their computer, and they force it on you. "

Exactly.


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