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Samsung's upcoming Galaxy Tab offers everything from video calling to augmented reality. Its just released specs appear impressive.  (Source: Samsung via YouTube)
Another MID competitor offers Apple's iPad a run for its money

While there is a decided lack of tablet competitors to Apple's iPad, which is selling 2.3+ million units a month, a handful of small tablet-like mobile internet devices are trickling in.  The first of those was the Dell Android Streak, a 5-inch MID.  Now Samsung, maker of the hot-selling Galaxy S Android smartphone, is launching its own MID, a 7-inch design named the Galaxy Tab.

The Galaxy Tab packs a pretty nice specs sheet.  It boasts a modest 1024x600 pixel resolution TFT LCD, slightly below the iPad's 1024x768 pixel LCD panel and better than the 800x480 LCD screen the Streak packs.  The OS onboard is Android 2.2 Froyo and additional GUI functionality is provided by Samsung's TouchWiz 3.0.

The processor onboard is Samsung's proprietary 1GHz Hummingbird Cortex A8 (ARM) CPU, co-developed by Intrinsity.  Past tests have shown this to be a very fast processor.  GLSBenchmark, a benchmark that measures raw integer and floating point performance by the CPU, found that it crunched just under twice as many frames as the TI OMAP3630 found in the Motorola Droid X, and over 2.5 times as many frames as the 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon (QSD8650) widely used by HTC.

The device measures 190.09x120.45x11.98 mm (7.48x4.74x0.471 in), making it thinner than the iPad.  It weighs a mere 380 g (13.4 oz.).

There's 512 MB of RAM onboard.  The GPU is the PowerVR SGX540, a slightly improved, but similar model to that used in the iPad.  There's a 3 megapixel rear-facing camera with flash and auto focus, and a 1.3 megapixel front-facing camera for video telephony (chatting).  The sensor package is pretty standard -- a gyroscope, a geo-magnetic sensor, an accelerometer, and a light sensor.

It comes with a pretty beefy 4,000 mAh battery, good for up to 7 hours of video playback.  It also comes packed with either 16 GB or 32 GB of internal Flash memory, depending on which configuration is purchased.  Further storage is provide by a microSD slot.  

One of the MID's strong points is its connectivity.  It is the first tablet or MID to feature Bluetooth 3.0.  It has a 3G modem with full support for voice/data.  Calls can be placed via speakerphone or Bluetooth headset.  There's also built in 5GHz dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi.  Finally, much like the iPad, there is a 30-pin connector, allowing for HDMI, USB, and docking accessories (a car dock at least is planned).

Some will likely fall in love with this tablet, whose specs are clearly superior to the Dell Streak and on-par or slightly ahead of the iPad.  However, it may be wise to wait for Motorola's upcoming tablet/MID -- or the upcoming webOS-powered HP Hurricane and Asus Eee Pad, which may offer a superior Android tablet experience in some respects.



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Space bar...
By ksherman on 9/2/2010 9:56:47 AM , Rating: 2
Ever since moving from my iPhone to an Android phone (EVO4G, might be swapping to the G2 soon) my biggest complaint has always been the size of the space bar on the on-screen keyboards.

Sure there are some third-party keyboards to make me happy, but it seems all the good ones have such tiny tiny space bars (Sense, Swiftkey, Swype...).

And then you look at this 7" tablet and the space bar is no larger than any other letter. I just don't get it...

Seems like a neat device anyway. But judging by the quality of most apps in the Marketplace, I left to wonder if there will be many apps made to really take advantage of the larger screen (which is where I think the success of the iPad lies).




RE: Space bar...
By GreenEnvt on 9/2/2010 10:19:02 AM , Rating: 3
Thats odd, my HTC magic, running Froyo (2.2) has a keyboard about the width of 4 normal keys.


RE: Space bar...
By ksherman on 9/2/2010 12:21:58 PM , Rating: 2
I think the stock Froyo keyboard was a huge improvement. But I had to get my EVO4G replaced, so I haven't gotten around to rooting it with the stock 2.2 update. And now I have to get it replaced again because the handset speaker wont work, so I've not bothered to try.


RE: Space bar...
By amanojaku on 9/2/2010 10:19:47 AM , Rating: 3
Replicating a full-size keyboard is tough on a device with a screen less than 10" or so; the keys on my wireless clock in at 11 1/4", not including the arrow keys, home/end/del/pg up and down, number pad, and function keys. I think the manufacturers are forced to make a compromise: more keys vs. a proportionally larger space bar. They do shoot for a middle ground by placing the chiclet space bar in the middle where your thumbs usually are, but still...

I prefer a touch screen phone with a physical keyboard. The little bit of extra space allows for a more traditionally-sized space bar, and tactile feedback. I've seen this on at least two sliders so far, and they were the only phones I've considered buying. My fingers just don't like typing on a touchscreen, even though it's all the rage.


RE: Space bar...
By quiksilvr on 9/2/2010 10:32:24 AM , Rating: 3
The main reason why they made the spacebar so small is because this thing comes with Swype (it automatically puts a space between words for you). They wanted to make the letters as big as possible.

Also it has Android and therefore a pretty nice speech-to-text feature.


RE: Space bar...
By ksherman on 9/2/2010 12:23:52 PM , Rating: 2
But that's where I prefer Apple's approach with the iPhone, that there isn't a ton of buttons cluttering up the main keyboard. Sure some common things are buried (like commas and periods) but at least you can type easily enough on it.


RE: Space bar...
By TheRequiem on 9/2/2010 10:25:21 AM , Rating: 3
Why in the world would you consider a G2 when you have an EVO??


RE: Space bar...
By quiksilvr on 9/2/2010 10:49:27 AM , Rating: 2
Because you don't need a contract to run a G2, there's a lot more HSPA+ coverage than WiMax (and both speeds are comparable) and there's a lot more flexibility with the plans?

At T-Mo, you can get unlimited everything for $79 a month, or you can cut the minutes down to save more money if you aren't much of a talker. The cheapest plan they have is 500 minutes, unlimited everything else for $59, which is $20 cheaper a month than the EVO plan. (Note, these are no-contract prices for T-Mo i'm stating)


RE: Space bar...
By ksherman on 9/2/2010 12:19:54 PM , Rating: 2
4G is suuuuuuch a gimmick.

Sure, it's fast, there's no challenging that. But the toll on your battery means you have to keep it off 98% of the time. It usually takes a minute or two to pick up signal, and usually by then you could have found the information you wanted over EVDO. And I can't understate the toll WiMax has on your battery.

And since it's a 2.4GHz-ish standard, wall penetration is really bad. I can get signal (1-2 bars out of 3) at my front windows, but not at my desk barely 6 feet away from that same window.

All in all, HSPA+ (while not really in the Chicago market) won't require me to turn on a secondary radio to get the faster speeds, you just get the faster speeds.

Also, smartphoning on a CDMA phone stinks. I can't download a new ROM for my EVO on the phone because invariably a text message or a phone call comes in that aborts the download and I have to start it over.

Anyway, that's my rant. But the EVO's screen... delish! Everytime I use my iPhone 3G or play with a friend's iPhone 4, I laugh at how small the screen is.


RE: Space bar...
By wolrah on 9/3/2010 7:09:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also, smartphoning on a CDMA phone stinks. I can't download a new ROM for my EVO on the phone because invariably a text message or a phone call comes in that aborts the download and I have to start it over.


Uh, WiFi? If you get that many calls/messages, what are you doing trying to flash a ROM on the go? I use mine mostly as a mobile internet terminal and still have only flashed away from WiFi once (which was mainly just to show off that I could).

I'll agree though that going from a GSM 3G smartphone to CDMA has sucked for the lack of simultaneous voice and data.


RE: Space bar...
By Goty on 9/2/2010 11:07:04 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think I've ever used the spacebar when using swype on my phone. That's kind of one of one of the big points of that keyboard.


RE: Space bar...
By ksherman on 9/2/2010 12:13:51 PM , Rating: 2
I use strange words often times when I text, Swype is never happy with most of them... I end up hitting the '.' a lot.


No Wi-Fi only version
By ZachDontScare on 9/2/2010 2:55:22 PM , Rating: 3
This tablet looked GREAT... up until I read that there is no wi-fi only option. It will be sold through carriers with a contract.

So, no thanks. Not interested in another monthly bill. Screw that.




Reportedly will cost 650-700 Euro
By micksh on 9/2/2010 4:14:18 PM , Rating: 2
for 16GB model. There probably will be operator subsidized choices but if you don't want another contract - this is the price.
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2010/samsung...

"It will be definitely more expensive than Galaxy S, which translates into €650-700 for a 16 GB version. It is possible that the price will be a bit lower, but we should not expect dramatic changes. With such a price in mind Samsung TAB loses out to all rival products on the market."

Another rumor suggests £665
http://www.itproportal.com/www/news/article/2010/9...

Looks way too overpriced. Will wait to see if new Archos tablets are any good.




Samsung iPad?
By SkierInAvon on 9/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: Samsung iPad?
By Goty on 9/2/2010 11:11:47 AM , Rating: 2
Do developers have to write a different version of their program for ever model of windows PC? No, and they don't have to here, either.

You are aware that, outside of Apple's magical land of iCrap, multiple hardware platforms can run the same software, aren't you?


RE: Samsung iPad?
By SkierInAvon on 9/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: Samsung iPad?
By Chris Peredun on 9/2/2010 11:43:50 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Let's see you load (natively) the MAC OS X - operating system on an AMD based laptop/desktop or even an Intel based PC of your choice...from the shelves of your local 'best buy' store.

This has been getting done for a long time ever since EFI booting became possible on standard PC hardware. Using retail OSX discs, no less.

quote:
Can a single Droid smart phone support all these OS's...run either Win7 (mobile) or (developers choice) the iPhone OS? PalmOS? BeOS?...etc

My old HTC phone was shipped with WM6, got upgraded to WM6.5, and has gone from Android 1.5 to 1.6 to 2.1 to 2.2. I can put a non-phone Linux on it. Windows Phone 7 isn't out yet. iOS doesn't run on any other device because it's closed-source. It all depends on how open the target device and desired operating system are.

quote:
What is your cross platform software development tool of choice that lets your developer (write once?) and run everywhere.

Moving the goalposts. You can't write a iOS/OSX cross-platform app, unless you count the Simulator. Let's see the original question.

quote:
What does a software developer write to? Example: 10 different re-writes of his single application to get it to run on 10 different iPad (like?) devices?

One write targeting Android, with branching conditions based on the OS variant, performance profile of the device, and available features/resolution.

Kind of like writing for iOS, when you have to consider that you might want to target anything from a 480x320 original iPhone to a 1024x768 iPad. And let's not even start into the quagmire of OS version changes and performance profiles, especially if you're working with OpenGL ES.


RE: Samsung iPad?
By SkierInAvon on 9/2/2010 12:31:43 PM , Rating: 1
Chris,

I believe your last paragraph in your last response - has made my point for (us).

What does a reasonable software developer reasonably write to?

tricky question.

Do you have a web page link - to the story/article/demonstation of MAC OS X running (natively) on standard off the (best buy shelf) PC hardware? I said natively. I'm not talking about running Windows on a MAC running OS X. We both know the Mac can do that non-natively.

I'd like to see (video) the proof of your allegation.


RE: Samsung iPad?
By acer905 on 9/2/2010 12:51:43 PM , Rating: 2
Simply google Hackintosh, and you will be gifted with a plethora of links to examples of an off the shelf PC runnin OSX natively. There even exists a wikipedia page which covers the OSx86 project, which is gaining a lot of popularity due to the ease that it can be achieved lately.

In case you are lazy...

http://lifehacker.com/348653/install-os-x-on-your-...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86

http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_P...

http://gizmodo.com/5156903/how-to-hackintosh-a-del...

http://vimeo.com/3630135

There are more as well. Complete native support. Also, look up Psystar. They got a bit of Apple hate for building and selling hackintoshes...


RE: Samsung iPad?
By dark matter on 9/2/2010 1:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
Do you even know how to use Google?


RE: Samsung iPad?
By jvillaro on 9/2/2010 3:29:55 PM , Rating: 2
If you read all his posts you will find that he might be one step behind in human evolution...
Maybe he´s not the missing link but a bet he´s as dumb


RE: Samsung iPad?
By sprockkets on 9/5/2010 10:04:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This has been getting done for a long time ever since EFI booting became possible on standard PC hardware. Using retail OSX discs, no less.


FYI, the EFI booting on normal pc's is incompatible with the EFI used on Macs, because of version differences.

Regardless even if they were compatible at some point, there is no provision in normal computers with EFI's firmware to decrypt the encrypted binaries present in OSX.


RE: Samsung iPad?
By jvillaro on 9/2/2010 3:18:36 PM , Rating: 1
I think somewhere along the way of writing that something fell on your head and doesn´t let you think properly


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