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10x optical zoom and lots more

Samsung has gone official with its follow-up to the Galaxy S4 Zoom: the Galaxy K zoom. The Galaxy K zoom's main draw is its 20.7MP sensor and 10x optical zoom with optical image stabilization.
The Galaxy K zoom includes dual Xenon Flash, AF/AE Separation, and even features a Pro Suggest mode with five optimized filter settings. Selfie Alarm is another feature that makes it easy for users to take timed selfies with ease.

Seeing as how the camera is the standout feature for the Galaxy K zoom, other hardware specs aren’t nearly as impressive (at least in comparison to the Galaxy S5). It features a hexa-core processor design (1.3GHz quad-core + 1.7GHz dual-core), 2GB of RAM, and a 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED (1280 x 720). It also has integrated Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, A-GPS+GLONASS, and supports LTE.
Thankfully, the Galaxy K zoom comes running the latest version of Android: 4.4 KitKat.

It will be interesting to see if devices like the Galaxy K zoom – and traditional smartphones, which are increasingly being paired with higher quality optics – further erode the point-and-shoot camera market. Device convergence is inevitable and many companies are already witnessing the fallout from the smartphone boom.

Source: Samsung Tomorrow

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target audience?
By Nortel on 4/30/14, Rating: 0
RE: target audience?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/30/14, Rating: -1
RE: target audience?
By atechfan on 4/30/2014 5:34:16 PM , Rating: 2
It is not trolling to point out weaknesses in a device. While a phone with a built in zoom lens is a very sensible product for a niche market, pairing that lens with a crappy sensor does not make sense. The idea is good, but the implementation terrible.

RE: target audience?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/30/2014 7:58:01 PM , Rating: 1
See this is why you guys fail at marketing, and Samsung rules at it.

Nobody cares about the "sensor" in a phone, nobody even know wtf you're talking about.

Will this phone take better pics than the run of the mill smartphone? Yes. Does this phone ZOOM way beyond your average run of the mill smartphone? Yes.

Success. This is a smartphone, not a DSLR.

Also if you want top-end specs, you have to pay for it. This isn't a flagship priced device.

RE: target audience?
By Mint on 5/1/2014 8:14:08 PM , Rating: 2
Will this phone take better pics than the run of the mill smartphone? Yes.
At wide angle, it's not going to take better pictures than decent smartphones even from last gen, and it'll be worse than some of the best (Lumia 1020 & 1520, Xperia Z1/Z2). The reason is physics: It's only f/3.1, so for the most part that cancels out the slightly bigger sensor. Fixed focus length lenses can cram really good light gathering into a tiny package.

So basically, the same thing that's making people buy fewer and fewer P&S cameras will diminish the value of this product.

The strength of this product is its namesake: the optical zoom. That's about it, and everything else is notably compromised.

RE: target audience?
By Belegost on 4/30/2014 11:18:45 AM , Rating: 2
I can't understand this either - why use outdated hardware? A decent sensor with good hardware specs might have gotten my attention (though Android is really hard to swallow) but this is a crummy camera taped to a mediocre phone...

RE: target audience?
By BRB29 on 4/30/2014 11:44:13 AM , Rating: 2
1. Sensor size is limited unless they want a thicker phone.

2. They used old hardware because it's cheaper since they're putting a point a shoot camera on it with zoom. It will be $1000 if they use the latest hardware.

3. This is meant to be a low volume product. It looks like a "me too" because of the Nokia.

RE: target audience?
By Nortel on 4/30/2014 12:04:44 PM , Rating: 3
Lumia 1020 has a 1/1.5 sensor, 808 pureview is 1/1.2. Both are considerably larger sensors and the phones are thinner.

They used old hardware because this is a gimmicky device. They expect people to want this because of the zoom camera, not because of the phones specs. In all honesty, the 808 pureview is a vastly superior device and VERY likely image quality.

Absolutely, it's a low volume product, similarly to those gimmicky curved phones with mediocre specs.

RE: target audience?
By GulWestfale on 4/30/2014 2:53:34 PM , Rating: 2
the phone hardware is not outdated at all, except for the low screen resolution. the CPU/RAM are pretty much up to date... but why on earth they pair a camera phone with a lower-res screen is beyond me. i mean, isn't the whole point that you're supposed to see your pics on that screen after you take them?

of course, the iphone has a tiny, non-HD screen, and that doesn't seem to bother anyone, and the nokia 808/lumia 1020 have pretty pitiful resolutions as well... so it's obviously not a dealbreaker to people who buy this type of thing.

the crappy camera on the other hand, is a dealbreaker, at least for me. camera sensors are made much like CPUs, on a wafer. bigger ones are substantially more expensive than slightly smaller ones. so you won't see an APS-C sized sensor in a phone anytime soon; not even micro four thirds or nikon's CX format would make this economical.
but sticking a huge zoom lens onto what is essentially the same tiny sensor that every other phone has is idiotic, to say the least. this will not improve image quality at all, especially at full zoom when every tiny shake is amplified and you get blurry pictures.

then again... there are tons of people who put massive wings and tires on their honda civics, in essence only increasing aerodynamic and mechanical drag and thus actually slowing down their cars; but it helps them feel like they totally could race a real car, if they wanted. i guess in much the same way this lens will make some people feel as if they could be professional photographers, if only their time wasn't taken up with badly lit bathroom stall selfies.

i also think i spent waaaay too much time typing this all out, when we all know that this will be a niche product at best. most of us will never see one in the wild.

by the way, here's wikipedia's handy image sensor comparison graph:

APS-C is what entry-level DSLRs and some CSCs use, and full-frame bodies usually cost $2k and up.

RE: target audience?
By Mint on 4/30/2014 3:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
Between the larger sensor and faster lens, the 1020 probably gathers about 4x the light as this Samsung at wide angle.

But that advantage disappears at about 2-2.5x zoom. This camera has a similar specs to any P&S in the $200-$300 range. It definitely has its purpose, and far more attractive than Samsung's previous, bulky effort.

Yeah, it's a niche product, but so is the 1020. I honestly don't know which one would sell more.

RE: target audience?
By GulWestfale on 4/30/2014 4:49:28 PM , Rating: 2
while we're on the topic:

i picked up a sony NEX f3 at staples last week for a lousy $250. full APS-C sensor, same image processor as the alpha 77. an absolute steal at that price.

RE: target audience?
By Monkey's Uncle on 5/2/2014 3:30:34 PM , Rating: 2
Damn, you're not kidding. I would be lucky to find one of those at double the price.

gz on the find.

RE: target audience?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/30/2014 7:53:05 PM , Rating: 1
In all honesty, the 808 pureview is a vastly superior device

Yeah until you get to the OS...

Also the Pureview is WAY more expensive than this phone.

RE: target audience?
By Mint on 5/1/2014 9:02:41 PM , Rating: 2
I was wondering where you got the price, but then I saw recent reports that Samsung is planning to price this cheaper than the S5.

If I was looking for a typical P&S camera for vacation, I'd get this instead in a heartbeat. Having to carry only one device instead of two in the pocket is an enormously useful feature.

But I'm not, and if you look at sales, fewer and fewer people are in that market. The only P&S I'd buy is a high end one like a Sony RX100, as everything below that is too marginal of an improvement over a smartphone.

It should help Samsung, though, because despite P&S cameras being a shrinking market (and far smaller than that of smartphone), it's dominated by Canon, Nikon, Sony, Panasonic, etc. I think it would be wise of Samsung to get shelf space in the camera section (e.g. Best Buy) rather than just focus on carriers.

People will buy this
By jrpros on 4/30/2014 12:15:42 PM , Rating: 2
While this isn't the latest and greatest, there are consumers of this kind of tech. Most people are not power users or the kind who demand only the latest and greatest. This could be attractive to someone who enjoys taking pictures, but hates that they cannot zoom (legitimately) on the typical smart phone camera without getting many blurry shots.

I owned a Sony C905a back about 4 years ago. The camera on that phone was actually really good and took clear pictures with good color quality. I miss that camera now with using an outdated smart phone.

Not HD...
By sleepeeg3 on 4/30/2014 1:23:56 PM , Rating: 2
1080p and I will buy it

"A lot of people pay zero for the cellphone ... That's what it's worth." -- Apple Chief Operating Officer Timothy Cook

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