Source: The Korea Times
quote: "Although we are losing Apple business, Samsung looks safe as we found the right alternatives -- Amazon and Samsung Electronics' handset division," said the Samsung source.
quote: The point is not that Apple tells Samsung how to make devices; it is that Apple has continually pushed Samsung to do a lot more than just cruise, accepting where things were going naturally; and Samsung could then use those better devices across its product line.
quote: This is an extraordinarily ignorant statement....It was Apple that pushed the mouse...And then the laser printer... multimedia technology
quote: Intel has admitted that they made a dramatic change in priorities in their chip design, from performance to power, which we have seen in the progress through Nehalem to Sandy Bridge to Haswell, as a result of Apple requests/suggestions.
quote: Now you're going to tell me the shift in focus from performance to efficiency that AMD and Intel have been doing now for years is Apple's doing?
quote: The focus on IGP performance is mainly because of Apple.
quote: A third of US laptop sales this year have been Apple, and 90% of OEM computers in the US sold for over $1000 are Apple.
quote: It is a "niche" segment but it is clearly an important market for Intel since it carries higher profit margins.
quote: It is important to note that at the time, Apple was one of the only companies sacrificing a dedicated mobile GPU for size.
quote: Now we're seeing Haswell with insane IGP performance and dedicated mobile GPUs becoming marginalized year over year. IGP performance certainly could have happened over time, but Apple put demands like no other company to improve it. Dell and HP certainly didn't put those demands on Intel, why would they when they can just put a dedicated GPU in and be done with it?
quote: Did Apple's demands cause the development of faster CPUs? GPUs? Smaller/denser memory chips? Faster data transfer technologies? Even in the recent years of smartphones and tablets, I can't think of anything that has dramatically improved because of a mandate from Apple. Indirectly by sales volume leading to more competition, yes. By mandate, no.
quote: Actually, yes. Pushing SoC performance has been a huge demand from them, so much so that the A6 is an internal design that nothing else can touch.
quote: Thunderbolt was another collaboration brought about by Apple's desire for a single high speed connection that could handle data and video.
quote: Display technology is another one, they pushed high DPI, and thus faster GPUs, in mobile devices.
quote: Every other tech out there tends to race to the bottom with component quality and performance.
quote: You put a lot of emphasis on "invention". Execution and shipping, thus driving adoption of a new technology, is just as important.
quote: The same sort of thing applies to high DPI. Yes it wouldn't have been used if it didn't exist, but who else aside from Apple would have produced devices using those displays in such high volume, thus popularizing it and pushing everyone else to do the same?
quote: You assume that a technology gets used simply because it exists.
quote: They may have sped up adoption in the market because of their tremendous success, but the trends were clearly there already for ever increasing resolution displays. Apple's not doing any of this in a vacuum and for them to get all the credit is just unjust.
quote: As for Thunderbolt, it was developed by Intel with technical collaboration from Apple...Intel and Apple have collaborated on several other things with CPUs and chipsets, why is it surprising that they did the same with Thunderbolt?
quote: Thunderbolt began at Intel Labs with a simple concept: create an incredibly fast input/output technology that just about anything can plug into. After close technical collaboration between Intel and Apple, Thunderbolt emerged from the lab to make its appearance in Mac computers.
quote: Apple created the mini-DP connector and then released it royalty free.
quote: Would Thunderbolt even be a thing without Apple?
quote: Do you think that IGP performance would be such a big deal with Intel if we had to lean on Dell or HP?
quote: but now ultrabooks are suddenly ok because Intel randomly did a quick about face on the power of their IGP that was pushed by Apple? That didn't just randomly happen in time for Apple to start using them.
quote: You don't have to like the company or the products but you have to recognize that Apple is notoriously demanding when it comes to component specs if it is needed for a product.
quote: Yes, I very much think it would. Intel conceived it, Intel developed it. Apple is not the only company in the world who wants fewer cables to deal with. Intel is not a company that just sits on their hands. They had a good opportunity to work with Apple and get the benefit of their sales, but they were not vital.
quote: Intel has been promising better integrated graphics forever and everyone was disappointed with their early attempts, not just Apple. No, it was certainly NOT random. Intel has been working on it for a long time. Again, Intel is not just a company that sits around waiting for people to tell them what they need to do. Predicitions about the rise of the mobile market have been going on for years and years. The guys running these companies know that.
quote: What other major company would have pushed these technologies if Apple hadn't made them mainstream? Every other tech is more concerned with racing to the bottom and making the cheapest, most conservative device possible. Once they see what Apple does in the high end and proves it in the marketplace (full capacitive multitouch, high-DPI, etc), then they jump in.
quote: I build my own PCs, I'm currently running a GTX 680. I don't kid myself as to how many people have this sort of hardware, tens of thousands versus the millions of ultraslims that Apple sells.
quote: When did I ever say what you are claiming?
quote: The time period you bring up is when Apple was mainly in the limited market of professional workstations, not consumer computers and devices.
quote: My issue is that denying what Apple has done to push the high end and mobile over the last couple years is wrong.
quote: What is also wrong is that those same PC companies have continued to push the high end. They've gone in the opposite direction, racing to the bottom and chasing the bargain basement econoboxes for offices.
quote: Same with laptops, displays and build quality (with the exception of Lenovo) have gone down overall even with Apple in the picture. How bad would it be if they weren't there for competition?
quote: My example was meant to show that for a 25+ year period, the PC industry advanced at break-neck speed WITHOUT Apple at the steering wheel. We had extremely high end computers and extremely low end computers. Computing power doubled each year, drives got bigger, new technologies came out every year. If your statements were true, either A) That 25 years of development shouldn't have happened because Apple wasn't in the forefront pushing the industry or B) Something drastically changed since then and now companies no longer are able or are unwilling to push technology or develop for the high end themselves and Apple had to come in and get in the drivers seat to keep the industry on course.
quote: I specifically SAID "The point is not that Apple tells Samsung how to make devices; it is that Apple has continually pushed Samsung to do a lot more than just cruise"
quote: And we have a commenter, Shadowself, higher up who said pretty much the same thing I said. You're happy with the exact same point when it comes in anti-Apple wrapping, but you dislike it when it comes in a neutral wrapping?
quote: This is going to hurt Samsung's bottom line.
quote: Apple does not
quote: Although I look at the corporate entity with a healthy suspicion I find Apple to be rotten to its core.
quote: An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility.
quote: I was fairly certain that TSMC said they didn't want to make any of the chips for them.
quote: ... whom you claim suggest Samsung is trying to push crap on the consumer while Apple dutifully protects the virtues of high quality and fair treatment of the consumer
quote: switch to another due to an arbitrary vendetta they limit their options and hence their bargaining power
quote: Lastly, your comparison of Samsung to a jilted lover is the most ridiculously silly thing I have heard. It has been posted that Samsung's business structure is one of autonomy amongst its divisions. IOW, "if 'handhelds' has a problem with Apple that shouldn't effect 'memory', 'displays' or 'chips'."
quote: On the other hand while I dislike Apple for moving all their production offshore while raking in an obscene level of profit, I don't know that they have had anyone killed lately...
quote: On the other hand while I dislike Apple for moving all their production offshore while raking in an obscene level of profit.
quote: Another failed attempt by you to try and prove something.
quote: Samsung was forced to pay $1.05 billion in damages (which Apple tried to hike up to $3 billion) and in December, it will be decided whether certain Samsung devices will be banned.
quote: ...and in December, it will be decided whether certain Samsung devices will be banned.
quote: ...and in December, it will be decided whether certain Samsung devices will be banned , if any .