quote: Apple has pretty much stopped innovating in the phone space.
quote: Because of that they're aggressively defending their previous innovations, many of which weren't really theirs or were trivial, and taking advantage of a broken system that allows them to patent those things.
quote: Hopefully Apple will get its arse handed to it and the patent system will be torn down and rebuilt into something fit for purpose. Can't really see Koh helping with that though...
quote: How can an invention by you not be yours.
quote: slide to unlock: used for centuries to lock doors, not a real invention, let alone innovation - patented by Apple
quote: rectangle: used for centuries, pretty simple, rectangular tablets have been used in sci-fi for decades, dating back to the 50's on TV and in movies, even further than that in books by Robert Heinlein and Issac Asimov (one such item described in Second Foundation in pretty good detail) - patented by Apple
quote: icons on a screen: used for decades on all sorts of computer interfaces. It's kind of a "no duh" default interface for many things - patented by Apple as their "iPhone and iPad experience"
quote: All things Apple claims as an "innovation". They clearly exploit the patent system. They didn't invent any of it. They don't even come close to deserving anything for this. It's not innovation, it's taking what the customer wants and presenting it to them. It's what has been asked for by customers for decades. To claim this as "innovation" is like claiming pairing scrambled eggs with bacon is "innovation." Talk about super lame. Apple is exactly that.
quote: He's just too brainwashed to be retrieved.
quote: Apple invented pretty much every innovation in the phone space.Stopped innovating? Have you seen iOS 6? Better voice recognition? Vector maps? Canned message replies? Facebook integration?
quote: Not gonna happen. I predict a complete U.S. ban. Then you suckas will be purchasing iPhones -- well, those of you who aren't trolls on welfare and can actually afford one (which i guess isn't many Android users).Otherwise enjoy your food stamps, smelly droidtards.
quote: Stopped innovating? Have you seen iOS 6? Better voice recognition? Vector maps? Canned message replies? Facebook integration?
quote: Apple believes that the best way to make profit is to sue everyone else out of existence.
quote: And ???? Not everyone buys something.
quote: I find it funny that people call Apple's copying of Sci-fi concepts
quote: lol, of course someone can invent a warp drive... you can begin your debate after someone invents it and then sues someone else that does the same thing...THAT is the analogy, please try to think
quote: (In case you were wondering, they didn't, as that was invented back in the mid-90's.)
quote: Meanwhile in the real world Apple stores saw 300 million visitors in FY 2012.300 million
quote: Apple would love to gain a monopoly in the smartphone market
quote: Apple has ZERO interest in becoming a monopoly
quote: Which still wouldn't create a monopoly given the existence of Win Phone
quote: They managed to convince a patent examiner, that they could patent the rectangle?
quote: Is there some relationship between Apple and the USPTO?
quote: Design patents are a joke, there are only so many ways to reasonably shape certain types of devices.
quote: God damnit Jason, why do you insist on viewing this trial through the most childish lens imaginable?
quote: "At the end of the day much of Apple's design claims boil down to its assertion that it "owns" exclusive rights to produce rectangular tablets/smartphones with rounded edges." ^outright lie.
quote: Now looking at apple’s patent 677 filed in Nov. 2008. It’s for an electronic device with a rectangular shape, rounded edges and a flat, transparent surface with black color, and rectangular display centered on the face. A lozenge-shaped button on the top. Now looking at Apple’s 087 patent, filed in July 2007. It discloses a similar design to the 677 patent but adds the bezel around the phone. Sherman says all three patents show a rectangular phone, with rounded edges, a bezel with flat screen. “My opinion is that JP638 renders both of these patents (Apple’s) obvious,” Sherman says. There are relatively minor differences between Japanese design and Apple’s designs, but not different enough to support Apple’s design claims, he says.There is other prior art that invalidates Apple’s claims, Sherman says.It includes Korean Registered Design KR547, issued on July 6, 2006. It discloses a portable phone that has an overall rectangular shape with evenly rounded corners with a display centered on the front of the display, flat face, lozenge-shaped slot at the top.Samsung is now showing photos of the LG Prada phone, which Sherman says was released in late 2006 before Apple filed its patents.LG Prada is a mobile handset that is rectangular, with rounded edges, flat front, black, lozenge-shaped slot at the top.Sherman says there’s another patent — JR 383 — a Japanese design registration issued in June 2005. It is also rectangular, with four rounded corners, flat front.Now all four patents are being compared to two Apple patents. Sherman says that JP638 in combination with the Prada make Apple’s 677 patent obvious. As to Apple’s patent 087, he says if you combine JR 383 and JP 638 yields the Apple design.As for the display, you’re trying to maximize the size of the display on the screen on a rectangular screen, Sherman says. And rounded corners have significant benefits in terms of usability. It’s easier to hold, they’re more comfortable and they dont’ snag when you’re trying to put them into your pockets. Sharp corners may bend and break, while rounded corners are easier to manufacture, he adds. There is now an internal Apple email on screen. It’s from an Apple designer to Jonathan Ive, Apple’s chief designer, saying that the rounded corners had advantages.
quote: In this patent war, Apple has accused Samsung of copying its genius. Samsung has defended itself saying the similarities aren't design choices but utilitarian parts of a tablet. In order to prove Samsung wrong, however, Apple came up with a list of suggestions with different aesthetics Samsung could have gone with to avoid this infringement. Here were some of the things Apple came up with: * Overall shapes that are not rectangular with four flat sides* Or that do not have four rounded corners* Front surfaces that are not completely flat or clear* And that have substantial adornment* Thick frames rather than a thin rim around the front surface* Profiles that are not thin* Or that have a cluttered appearance