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Tablet launches late this month

Samsung has announced a new addition to its product lineup that is set to launch this month: the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet. The tablet features a 10.1-inch screen promising the functionality and precisions of pen and paper on a digital device.
 
The has a 1.4 GHz quad-core processor, 2 GB of RAM, and runs Android 4.0. The Galaxy Note 10.1 also includes a five-megapixel rear autofocus camera with LED flash, a 1.9-megapixel front camera, GPS, Bluetooth, integrated Wi-Fi, USB 2.0 host, and optional integrated mobile broadband capability.
 
As its name implies, the Galaxy Note 10.1 integrates Samsung’s S Pen experience with a variety of S Note templates and productive tools. The tablet screen is large enough to show two different applications side-by-side at the same time. For instance, users of the tablet could view a web page or watch video while writing or sketching on another application on the screen.

 
The S Pen is a 6.5 mm stylus that slides directly into the device and when removed, specially optimized applications are automatically launched. The tablet features what Samsung calls an active learning experience. This active learning experience includes tools for taking notes directly on any textbook and performing other research for educational needs.
 
“GALAXY Note 10.1 further demonstrates Samsung’s dedication to delivering products that offer a complete mobile experience for creating personalized and expressive content,” said JK Shin, President of IT & Mobile Communications Division at Samsung Electronics. “History has shown that taking notes, capturing ideas immediately, and sketching to realize them is the most personal and natural way to be more productive and creative. The advanced technology and features included in GALAXY Note 10.1 give users the power to produce, create and customize communications.”
 
The tablet will be offered with 16 GB, 32 GB, or 64 GB of memory with a microSD card for expansion. The tablet will launch in late August at an undisclosed price.

Source: Samsung



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Better have Jelly Bean.
By quiksilvr on 8/6/2012 11:05:32 AM , Rating: 2
Getting sick and tired of these companies holding out on updates just so that they can force a Launcher on us. Why don't they work like GO Launcher EX? Why can't it be an uninstallable App? That way when a new OS comes out, you aren't tied down.

This will force companies to hurry the hell up with their launchers and offer it without having to slow down updates to the OS.




RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 11:10:31 AM , Rating: 1
"Why don't they work like GO Launcher EX? Why can't it be an uninstallable App? That way when a new OS comes out, you aren't tied down."

I dont think the launchers is what slows it down. It may be an excuse, but in the end, its just a launcher, much like Go Launcher EX. How much could it possibly slow things down. The cause is more likely apathy than anything else. The manufacturers arent pushed to do it, becasue it prolongs the life of the old phone, rather than making the user want to buy an upgrade, they may get the update and put of a purchase. The carriers arent pushed to do it, its just mroe work for them with no real gain. Same thing with the purcahse as well. Update may put off an upgrade purchase.

But, they are catching on. There are updates coming for alot of older models now.

http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-jelly-be...


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:05:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But, they are catching on. There are updates coming for alot of older models now.


And the link provided says that there will be no update to JB for the S2. So your link does not support that comment. It is indeed exactly how you described before that however.

quote:
The cause is more likely apathy than anything else. The manufacturers arent pushed to do it, becasue it prolongs the life of the old phone, rather than making the user want to buy an upgrade, they may get the update and put of a purchase. The carriers arent pushed to do it, its just mroe work for them with no real gain. Same thing with the purcahse as well. Update may put off an upgrade purchase.


That's exactly what it's about. Why is it that companies only care about the initial sale? Why the hell would I buy a Samsung device if I care about OS updates? They have a storied history of not releasing OS updates. No wonder they are outselling apple... their customers are purchasing brand new phones to get OS updates. HTC seems to support their devices better but because of it they aren't selling as many phones.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:15:08 PM , Rating: 2
"And the link provided says that there will be no update to JB for the S2"

No, it doesnt. What Samsung said was (regarding the SGS2) "Android 4.1 is still in testing for the 2011 handset, and the first tests are looking fine.”

The poster theorized that is was not garantee, but it really doesnt say anything other than Samsung IS working on Jellybean for the SGS2. It is always possible they wont release it.

" No wonder they are outselling apple... their customers are purchasing brand new phones to get OS updates. HTC seems to support their devices better but because of it they aren't selling as many phones"

I dunno. Apple makes this more of an issue than it is, because their limited device pool and little improvement from OS version to version makes updates easy for them so they hype it up. IOS3 to IOS6 isnt a big difference. Android 2.x to 4.1 is a HUGE improvment so its more work... Granted its harder for Android makers, they have also been extremely lazy with it...

I upgrade my phone every 12-18 months regardless if there is an OS update at all... As do most people in the US, because its available, so that plays into it as well. Am I really worried about an OS upgrade for my new SGS3? No, becasue I will buy a new phone in 2013 if an upgrade comes or not. With that said, I am glad an upgrade is coming =)


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:30:34 PM , Rating: 2
I suppose my main gripe is in regard to the carriers. It may be that samsung will have JB ready for the S2 but I believe the carriers will stop it from happening.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:36:31 PM , Rating: 2
I agree... This is likely why the non-comittal answer. Samsung surely isnt making it for fun. But they know carriers can crappy about it so they cant guarantee anything.

Anyhow, the SGS2 already has an ICS upgrade. It's not like they left it at the crappy old Android 2.3. It really did suck back then. ICS andJB are a huge jump up.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By Rukkian on 8/6/12, Rating: 0
RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:27:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If you want the new os, you have a choice - get a new device, wait and see if it gets it (unlikely), or install one yourself.


The installing it yourself isn't that easy. It requires an experienced dev hacking a kernel to make it compatible with the device-providing there is no source kernel for the new os from the manufacturer. Even then most of the time the kernel isn't 100% perfect and will have flaws (kindle fire 3.0 kernel). So if there isn't a dev that has hacked the kernel and there is no source from the manufacturer to base the new OS rom on you will not be updating to anything. Thus you are stuck and locked to one OS.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:31:24 PM , Rating: 2
"The installing it yourself isn't that easy"

I dont think you have actually done this in the past 2 years. Its simple. Install clockworkmod, download the ROM reboot insto cwm and flash it. If you dont like it, do the recovery and you are right back to stock. Its almost that easy.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By Rukkian on 8/6/2012 12:39:31 PM , Rating: 2
I have a Galaxy nexus and it is my first android. It literay takes less than 20 minutes to download, backup, and install a new rom. I have probably done it 50 times since getting my phone, just testing out different builds.

As Retro said, you seem to be going off very old info.

My point is that of those that know and care about the new os, probably 90% could install a custom rom with little to no help from anybody. That only leaves 10% of probably 10% of the user base (the ones that even know what JB is) that would be left out, which does not make sense for the company to spend time and money developing, and then supporting after wards.

If they provide the update, great that is a company going above and beyond in my opinion, especially for an os that is 2 versions beyond what came on the phone, and one (ICS) was a giant leap forward .


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:51:50 PM , Rating: 2
Uh no I have actually-many times in fact. If you are on GB or Froyo you can't just go to XDA and download some random rom and flash it. There needs to be support on XDA for there to be roms for your device. You also can't take a GB kernel and pair it in a aosp ICS and *BAM* you have a working ICS rom. That's not how it works. The flashing part is easy, but if there's not many devs working on your device you are basically stuck.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 1:08:11 PM , Rating: 3
OK, sounds like your stuck. I have never even heard of a Blaze 4g, so I dont think its one of their top end phones. Maybe you shouldnt buy a low end if upgrades are that important to you.

It still does have the same funtionality as it did the day you bought it right? Was that not what you were looking for in a phone?

Sorry, I just feel like you are playing the victim too much here and not taking responsibility for your own phone and choices. Maybe you should just get an iPhone. Then poppa Apple will take care of everything for you ;)


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 1:26:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Maybe you shouldnt buy a low end


Dual core 1.5 ghz snapdragon Adreno 220 and SAMOLED with 4g capability isn't anywhere near low end. This phone is exactly the same hardware wise (with a slightly smaller display) as your beloved SGS2 that you claim is getting JB. You must be smokin something, and if you are you are supposed to share with everyone else. There is no victim here and I am certainly not playing one but apparently I am however feeding the troll. As I am not a troll feeder this will be my final post in this thread. STARVE TROLL!!!


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 2:17:29 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever man, I am not trolling, just responding to you. I did just look up the blaze 4g. It is a mid level device on a budget carrier (T-Mobile)... I would say anyone on TMO at all is budget minded. On that budget carrier , there are still high end phones, and the Blaze isnt one of them... Sorry if that offends. It has similar specs, CPU/Ram wise, but that doesnt make it a high end phone. Is it capable of running ICS and JB, of course yes, but high end phones get the first treatment. They DID announce that the blaze will get ICS officially. Its not like you are totally out in the cold.

If there is no victim here, you are doing agood impression of one by what you are saying. "I bought a mid level phone on a budget carrier and although they have announced that an official upgrade will come, there is no release date yet. No-one is working on a custom ROM, so I have no options". Or am I missing something?

Just wait, its coming.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By Alexstarfire on 8/6/2012 12:37:01 PM , Rating: 2
I think you're confusing installing with creating/developing a ROM. Installing ROMs on most Android devices is actually pretty simple. The old phones used to be more complicated but even those are nearly as complicated as making or even porting a ROM. Even then, the biggest issue was accidentally bricking the phone, not actually following the steps that are provided. Fortunately my first phone was/is a Captivate and that thing is practically unbrickable except for a few circumstances that you'd have to be experienced in in the first place.

I can say that if you have to change bootloaders that you can certainly mess things up, but if you don't have to do that there isn't much to it really.

Anything that isn't automatic is generally ignored by the vast majority of people though. It's not like ripping DVDs is that hard yet you don't see everyone and their grandmother's doing it simply because more often than not they are too lazy. Which is actually rather sad since it only takes about a minute to actually do the steps, the rest is simply waiting for tasks to finish. But I digress.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:57:28 PM , Rating: 2
my comment was in response to this :
quote:
If you want the new os, you have a choice - get a new device, wait and see if it gets it (unlikely), or install one yourself.


So I bought a new galaxy s blaze 4g. I can't go anywhere to get an ICS rom. Yes it is confirmed that this device will get an ICS upgrade, but it's been 'confirmed' to get it for months now. I only bought it because the salesperson told me that it would get ICS by summertime.

Sure it's easy to flash roms once a dev has ported CWM to your device but don't expect to get any new version of Android if a dev hasn't hacked a working ICS/JB kernel for your device so another dev can cook up a rom for it.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/6/2012 2:52:49 PM , Rating: 3
Don't ever listen to what a salesperson tells you.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By Reclaimer77 on 8/6/2012 2:21:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That's exactly what it's about. Why is it that companies only care about the initial sale? Why the hell would I buy a Samsung device if I care about OS updates? They have a storied history of not releasing OS updates. No wonder they are outselling apple... their customers are purchasing brand new phones to get OS updates. HTC seems to support their devices better but because of it they aren't selling as many phones.


There's nobody out there like that, so why bother marketing to them? People keep their phones, on average, about 13 months. Fact. If you think people are sitting around holding onto their old phones for OS updates, when every year we see quantum leaps in features and computing power, you're kidding yourself.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By quiksilvr on 8/6/2012 12:23:24 PM , Rating: 3
The problem is you can't remove the launcher to GET the next update. You have to wait for the launcher to update along with the OS. By stripping away the laucher, you get the OEM OS and can download it yourself without any limitations. That's the point I am trying to make.

Imagine having to wait a mind numbing 8 months just to get Ice Cream Sandwich on your phone only to find out a month later that Jelly Bean just came out. This is just a heartless business tactic and the main reason why I bought a Galaxy Nexus so that I wouldn't have to deal with this nonsense.


RE: Better have Jelly Bean.
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 1:04:11 PM , Rating: 2
"The problem is you can't remove the launcher to GET the next update"

Ya, that would be nice to be able to just uninstall it.

"Imagine having to wait a mind numbing 8 months just to get Ice Cream Sandwich on your phone only to find out a month later that Jelly Bean just came out."

You have choices. If its really to the point its "mindnumbing" flash it yourself with a 3rd party ROM, or as you said, buy a Nexus. There will always be new OS's and older devices that dont get them - Nexus included. You either need to be patient, or take the matter into your own hands and flash it yourself. If none of that is acceptable, the iPhone might be the best product for you. You are pretty much guaranteed an upgrade for 2-3 OS's... Of course, then your still stuck with an iPhone LOL.


Galaxy Tab?
By Alexstarfire on 8/6/2012 11:50:59 AM , Rating: 1
How is this any different than the Galaxy Tab? It's got slightly different specs so far but it's practically identical apart from coming with the S-Pen. Am I missing something here?




RE: Galaxy Tab?
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:03:08 PM , Rating: 2
From a Tegra 2 dual core w/1gb ram to an Exynos quad core w/2gb ram is pretty hefty upgrade. That is the abslute fastest mobile CPU and GPU available on any product today. I suspect its mainly about adding the note branding and stylus functionality though, using todays specs.


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:12:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That is the abslute fastest mobile CPU and GPU available on any product today.


That would be incorrect. The PowerVR SGX 543MP2 would be the fastest GPU. Adreno 320 fell a bit flat IMO.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6126/glbenchmark-25-...


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:19:09 PM , Rating: 2
You are looking at one test. The gmbm 2.5 update was just one test. Try something more inclusive.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-...


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:28:41 PM , Rating: 2
ack... oops.. I posted the US version review with the s4/Adreno. The international (and Note 10.1) use the Exynos with teh latest Mali GPU. See below.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5811/samsung-galaxy-...


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:41:43 PM , Rating: 2
I was talking only in regards to the GPU. I still think that the 543MP2 is the fastest GPU out there right now. I don't really understand your position when you say "look at something more inclusive" when the link you provide only shows browsermark and gl benchmark 2.1. I am basically saying "it lost to the 543MP2 in GL benchmark 2.5" and you are saying "look at something more inclusive" and post a link to the old GL benchmark and browsermark. Those two tests aren't any more inclusive to GPU rendering than the updated GL benchmark. I believe the updated gl benchmark to be more accurate.

I am not contesting the CPU. The Exynos quad core is as good as it gets right now.


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By Alexstarfire on 8/6/2012 12:28:42 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I already pointed out the specs are slightly different. CPU/GPU/RAM aside, what is different between this at the Tab? Yes, this has a pen with it, but you can always get that separate. Having not used a Note before it would seem that there is basically nothing separating this from the Tab. If the difference lies in the GUI then at least that will make sense, though still seeming arbitrary to me since the OS is ICS.


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 12:33:22 PM , Rating: 2
I dont know what to tell you. It is what it is. I consider it an upgrade. The CPU/GPU is a huge improvement over the tegra 2. If I were looking for a 10 inch tablet, this would make my short list easy.


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By Alexstarfire on 8/6/2012 12:38:37 PM , Rating: 2
It is, but they are diluting the Tab brand by competing with themselves. That just seems foolish.


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By Doctorweir on 8/6/2012 9:38:36 PM , Rating: 2
Easy...

Galaxy Tab Brandname -> lawsuits attached all over the world

Galaxy Note -> No such thing

=> Ditch Galaxy Tab name and call it all note...stylus for capturing handwriting is a nice addition to any tablet anyway :-)


RE: Galaxy Tab?
By jimbojimbo on 8/6/2012 11:53:17 PM , Rating: 2
Read up more about the SPen. It's a Wacom active digitizer and you can't merely just go buy a pen. It's the entire screen and the pen. If you try the pen on anything else, except another Note, it simply will not work at all. This feature alone is worthwhile for me but all the additional software they include with it is incredible.


By retrospooty on 8/6/2012 11:06:47 AM , Rating: 2
Not great res (other sites are reporting its 1280x800) but its still good enough at that screen size.

Another great thing, is they are putting Jelly Bean on Galaxy s2,s3 and the original Galaxy Note.

http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-jelly-be...




By anactoraaron on 8/6/2012 12:20:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Another great thing, is they are putting Jelly Bean on Galaxy s2,s3 and the original Galaxy Note.


Again with that link? Are you all there? Did you even READ that article???

From that article:

quote:
This is where the report gets interesting, as it hints at the possibility of the Galaxy S2 not getting Jelly Bean, at least not officially. Android 4.1 is still in testing for the 2011 handset, and “the first tests are looking fine.” However, this quote is a bit disturbing:

quote:
If Samsung decides at the last moment not to update the Galaxy S II, all Galaxy S II owners will get a value pack update. But so far there is no reason not to update the Galaxy S II to Android 4.1.


So there's a good chance that the S2 will NOT get that update even though you talk as if it's a done deal already. My guess is that the only update the S2 will get is the "value pack update".


Screen resolution
By Roy2001 on 8/6/2012 12:21:39 PM , Rating: 2
1280x800? NOOOOOO.




Let me order the damn thing!
By jimbojimbo on 8/6/2012 11:55:00 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung, let me order the damn thing now so it'll be at my door come Aug 15th!!!




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