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Eric Schmidt did not accept pay for the board position -- but he did accept plenty of goodies.

Imagine buying $8,712 in Apple products.  That's a lot -- even for an Apple fan -- but that's how much Eric Schmidt received.  Only he didn't buy them, he received them for free for serving on Apple's Board of Directors, until he resigned last week. He also received a undisclosed $7,580 "commemorative gift" -- perhaps an unreleased product.

While a mere drop in the bucket in comparison to his net worth, the gesture is drawing mixed reaction from the public.  It is important to note that Mr. Schmidt declined any income to serve on the board, and also declined the $50,000 retainer fee offered by the Cupertino, Calif.-based company.

He also is not alone -- former U.S. Vice President Al Gore took $13,161 in Apple products, while Arthur Levinson, under investigation and still on both Apple and Google's boards, took $8,923.  Typically Apple gives board members 30,000 shares of the company stock, and then 10,000 shares each year.  Schmidt declined this option currently worth over $5M USD initially and close to $1.7M USD a year. 

Mr. Schmidt did buy 10,000 Apple shares himself in 2006 for $760,000.  Mr. Schmidt practices similar discretion at Google, only accepting $1/year in pay and recently declining all stock options.  However, Mr. Schmidt has approximately $4.4B USD in past lucrative options from Google and other companies he worked for.

The real issue here is that Mr. Schmidt was serving on the Apple board, that of a competitor, in the first place.  There's healthy debate to be had over whether it was the responsibility of the government or the shareholders to prevent such practices.  While the board didn't have ultimate control over Apple's business, it did help to steer all of Apple's business activities, and Mr. Schmidt's involvement represent a serious conflict of interest, given the companies' competition in the browser and phone markets.   The SEC filing serves to reillustrate this troubling item escaped the public eye for a couple years.


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And the problem is?
By Crusty on 8/7/2009 1:04:40 PM , Rating: 3
Why is this news worthy?




RE: And the problem is?
By rudy on 8/7/2009 1:07:10 PM , Rating: 3
Because it allows Jason Mick to put apple in another news story.


RE: And the problem is?
By bhieb on 8/7/2009 1:25:06 PM , Rating: 5
Hey at least the title wasn't "SEC finds Catastrophic Wrongdoing by Google CEO", subtitled. "Showstopper could be prison!!!".


RE: And the problem is?
By chick0n on 8/8/2009 11:58:37 AM , Rating: 2
rofl.


RE: And the problem is?
By Spookster on 8/7/2009 6:48:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Because it allows Jason Mick to put apple in another news story.


You jest. Jason Mickrosoft would never do such a thing. :)


RE: And the problem is?
By hyvonen on 8/7/2009 6:59:22 PM , Rating: 5
Poor guy, he's getting so much crap for his articles. I'm starting to feel bad for him.

Can we all just get along?


RE: And the problem is?
By rudy on 8/8/2009 1:22:32 AM , Rating: 2
I am sure he gets paid to fluff a boring day with useless news so why feel sorry.


RE: And the problem is?
By gshock888 on 8/10/2009 11:01:03 AM , Rating: 2
of course they do.

more apple/google posts = more fanboy flaming wars
more fanboys = more page views
more page views = more ad revenue $$$

we're fueling this trend. the more you people comment on these stupid useless posts, the more of the same will show up on DT.


RE: And the problem is?
By lycium on 8/8/2009 4:26:42 AM , Rating: 3
if his articles weren't so terrible, or so prominently displayed on anandtech's front page, there wouldn't be anything to say.

that clown should go to save himself the embarrassment before he gets his equivalent of http://charliedemerjianisadouchebag.blogspot.com/


RE: And the problem is?
By quiksilvr on 8/10/2009 12:00:10 AM , Rating: 2
It makes you wonder if he's doing it on purpose. Granted he's infamous at this point, but he's the most well known DailyTech writer. Kinda like Howard Stern; he's a douche, but you can't help but listen.


RE: And the problem is?
By crystal clear on 8/8/2009 3:16:14 AM , Rating: 4
An Apple a day keeps boredoom away at D.T. !

An Apple a day keeps you posting even more your comments.!

An Apple a day keeps the downraters/upraters busy .

An Apple a day also does more like-

It incites/ignites your hate or your love for Apple.

It inspires/motivates you to vent you feelings against Apple,Jobs .

It inspires you to call each other, all those words of praise like ...idiots,morons,dumb,suck & more

It inspires downraters to vote/rate down people like pirks & others.

Ding ding ...downraters here we come......

It ultimately comes down to the number of comments posted on the site for the article.

So Mick said to himself-

An Apple a day keeps the pink slip away .....


RE: And the problem is?
By meepstone on 8/10/2009 1:03:20 AM , Rating: 2
At least he hasnt responded to posts of his own articles. That usually ends up making things worse.


RE: And the problem is?
By ncheese on 8/7/2009 1:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
What a goofy article. It would have been one thing if Eric Schmidt and/or Apple hid the gifts from officials/auditors, but in this case, it was fully disclosed. I mean, this is typical in many business situations to offer "discounts" or "freebies" of the business standard offerings/products. Even in blue collar jobs, such as restaurant work, how many restaurants will offer free or discounted meals to workers.

The comparison to the US automakers and the private planes is unfair, since 1) US automakers are not in the business of making planes, and 2) the US automakers were asking for huge bailout money. Last I checked, Google and Apple are perfectly healthy. Plus, I believe the $16,000 figure as disclosed represents MSRP (or for experimental, a closest estimate of expected MSRP), so it actually cost Apple far less in real costs to hire Eric (and other Board of Director). If nothing else, this should be a pat-on-the-back for Steve Jobs to pull off such talented board members at such rock bottom prices.


RE: And the problem is?
By bhieb on 8/7/2009 1:42:15 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
this should be a pat-on-the-back for Steve Jobs to pull off such talented board members at such rock bottom prices


Agreed pretty miniscule. $16K would not even replace the PC's in my house with Macs. $16K of apple products does not amount to much, on the high end side at least.


RE: And the problem is?
By Pirks on 8/7/09, Rating: -1
RE: And the problem is?
By sxr7171 on 8/7/2009 4:46:30 PM , Rating: 2
$16k what a joke. Why would anyone get all bent out of shape over that. He left $5M on the table and he left $1.7M on the table every year. Besides that $1 to be CEO of Google. Very smart.


RE: And the problem is?
By S3anister on 8/7/2009 8:40:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Imagine buying $8,712 in Apple products. That's a lot -- even for an Apple fan -- but that's how much Eric Schmidt received.


It's almost as if J. Mick is surprised that corporate giant leaders get special gifts. (This is not newsworthy.)


RE: And the problem is?
By crystal clear on 8/8/2009 3:19:44 AM , Rating: 2
Who cares ..newsworthy or not,the motive here is to get you post a comment.

Ever thought about it.


RE: And the problem is?
By echtogammut on 8/10/2009 9:50:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Imagine buying $8,712 in Apple products. That's a lot -- even for an Apple fan -- but that's how much Eric Schmidt received.


That really isn't that much in Apple World. It amounts to a Mac Pro configured to my $2500 PC spec:

Two 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
8GB (4x2GB)
Mac Pro RAID Card
640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
One 18x SuperDrive
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
$8,898.00

Granted I have a 27" Screen but the rest of the specs are almost bang on. When I have to shop in Mac World for my company I am always wincing.


I stopped reading when I saw...
By Jimbo1234 on 8/7/2009 1:54:28 PM , Rating: 5
I stopped reading the article as soon as I saw "Jason Mick" as the author.




RE: I stopped reading when I saw...
By wuZheng on 8/7/2009 1:57:01 PM , Rating: 5
Ohhhhh, someone call the burn unit.


RE: I stopped reading when I saw...
By Jimbo1234 on 8/7/09, Rating: -1
RE: I stopped reading when I saw...
By gmyx on 8/7/2009 2:23:47 PM , Rating: 5
buy buy ;)


By johnsonx on 8/8/2009 1:29:14 AM , Rating: 5
Mick articles have become like traffic accidents... you can't help but watch.


By crystal clear on 8/8/2009 3:23:48 AM , Rating: 1
Then there is nothing much left to read on D.T. because he writes most of the articles here on D.T.

Time to bring in new talent on D.T.


I don't get it...
By Moohbear on 8/7/2009 1:07:18 PM , Rating: 5
So, the guy works for free because is totally loaded. He declines millions in stocks but gets a few freebies and he gets blamed anyway? Should have taken the money...




RE: I don't get it...
By SiliconJon on 8/7/2009 2:08:07 PM , Rating: 4
I don't get it either. Giving your own products to your own board members, how dare they! Sure, they have more than enough to buy all that, but why not just give them free goods worth far less than their contributions to the company while simultaneously providing them with the product and services for use and review in order to better enable their steering, as steering a ship is always easier if you have a hold of the wheel, er helm.


RE: I don't get it...
By Iaiken on 8/7/2009 2:18:02 PM , Rating: 3
The problem doesn't revolve around pay, but rather in that he was helping to direct two separate companies that both compete in the same market segments.

That said, I don't think that one existed...

From what I have seen of him in his published works and reports supporting his voluntary absence from all board meetings (at both Google and Apple) that could lead to a conflict of interests; I would say he's a pretty genuine guy. He wanted to get involved in these segments back at Google and he resigned his seat at Apple. He disclosed all income and shareholdings (zero and the stock he purchased privately) and declined all forms of compensation, with the exception of some Apple merchandise.

Apple shareholders should be writing this guy thank you letters considering the value per dollar he brought to the board being as his only compensation was some apple nick nacks.


RE: I don't get it...
By Omega215D on 8/7/2009 5:14:59 PM , Rating: 2
Beat him to death and see if he drops any loot...

*runs*


Grammatical Error
By AWeav09 on 8/7/2009 1:07:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
However, Mr. Schmidt has approximately $4.4B USD since to past lucrative options from Google and other companies he worked for.

I can guess what you're trying to say here, but it isn't entirely clear.




RE: Grammatical Error
By Crusty on 8/7/2009 1:23:12 PM , Rating: 2
It wouldn't be a Mick article if it didn't have at least one grammar/spelling mistake :)


RE: Grammatical Error
By gucio69 on 8/7/2009 3:38:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The SEC filing serves to reillustrate this troubling item that long escaped the public eye for a couple years .


You mean like this???


RE: Grammatical Error
By sxr7171 on 8/7/2009 4:57:17 PM , Rating: 2
He needs to start to submit his articles to a supervisor before he posts them. For both content and grammar/spelling.


Silly
By TomZ on 8/7/2009 1:02:51 PM , Rating: 5
What's the point of this? The value that Schmidt gave to Apple exceeds the value of the gifts by 1000X. Besides the value of the gifts is trivial, so who cares?

Let's try to get out of the mob mentality of being outraged when rich folks get some extra perks, because that is really the core issue.




and what did he get?
By kattanna on 8/7/2009 2:15:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
He also received a undisclosed $7,580 "commemorative gift"


so.. thats like what.. 1 fully decked out top of the line macbook?

that a PC person would have paid $3,000 for

;>)




RE: and what did he get?
By Alareth on 8/7/2009 2:30:49 PM , Rating: 3
An iPhone that multitasks without jailbreaking.


16K in Apple products
By phatboye on 8/7/2009 2:15:08 PM , Rating: 2
with only 16K to spend on Apple products what did Eric Schmidt receive, just one mac Mac Book for all that hard work?




RE: 16K in Apple products
By kattanna on 8/7/2009 2:17:25 PM , Rating: 2
LOL !!

you beat me to the same sentiment by 45 seconds


No pleasing people
By cabjf on 8/7/2009 1:01:48 PM , Rating: 3
The man could have been working for nothing more than a handshake from Steve Jobs and people would still complain about his compensation.




Oh yeah?
By sxr7171 on 8/7/2009 4:42:50 PM , Rating: 2
I'll tell you what a damn conflict of interest is. Apple using Google Maps as their shipping mapping service. If that's the only mapping service Apple could come up, then you know they're in bed together anyway.




I'm rolling need ok?
By rabbitslayer21 on 8/7/2009 5:29:25 PM , Rating: 2
Dugg for 'passing on loot' in headline.




Big Deal
By Simgamer on 8/8/2009 5:37:57 PM , Rating: 2
I would have been all Rodney Dangerfield, "Hey fellas , where's all the swag?" Isn't it understood that board members and execs get perks like this? Key to the executive crapper, rides on the company jet, new products free etc etc. C'mon...




Am i the only one who is sick of hearing this?
By ThePooBurner on 8/7/09, Rating: -1
By mandrews on 8/7/2009 3:25:37 PM , Rating: 2
Opera stock is bought and traded as is Microsoft's. Browsers are bought and negotiated through contracts for cell phones, game consoles, etc. Browser companies also accept donations. You're silly if you think that the major players in the browser industry don't make money.

Maybe Linux browsers like Epiphany that's true about, but even a lot of them take donations.


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