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Tretton says people don't respect confidentiality

Product leaks are incredibly frustrating occurrence that tech companies today must deal with on a regular basis. Employees leak images and specifications of coming products early. When the manufacturer needs to let third parties in on new devices, often the secret is only kept until the rep leaves the room. Leaks are great for fans of technology and gadgets because details emerge early and honestly many leaks are good for the companies making the leaked product as well.

Leaks were plentiful ahead of the Sony keynote at E3 earlier this month. Before the show even kicked off, details and an image of the PSP Go showed up online and trailers for upcoming Sony games Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker and The Last Guardian were leaked.

Sony Computer Entertainment America head Jack Tretton isn't happy about the leaks and feels that they stole some of the thunder from the Sony E3 announcements. Tretton told CNBC, "People don't respect confidentiality in this industry. It's tough enough to keep a secret within your own company, much less when you speak to third parties."

He continued saying, "This is an industry that has trouble focusing on today. We want to constantly talk about tomorrow.... You have to prepare for people to know things in advance. The frustrating thing is they only know a part of the story and that opens up a lot of conjecture and misinformation that ultimately waters down the reality when you roll it out."

Many fans of Sony may have been more likely to pay attention to the E3 press briefings after the leaks to see if the new products were real or not. GameDaily reports that Tretton is optimistic about the PSP Go and its chances in the market.

Tretton said, "At the end of the day, the iPhone is a phone. At the end of the day, we're a game system.... If the iPhone gets you interested in gaming, that's good for me, because it gives me a chance to sell you a PSP."

One of the things Sony announced at E3 that didn’t get leaked prior to the show was the new motion control technology. Some of the rumors that were circulated about new products and offerings being announced at E3 proved false like a slim PS3 and a price cut on the PS3.

Game developers and consumers have been calling for Sony to chop the price of its PS3 console, the most expensive gaming console on the market by a wide margin. Speaking about PS3 pricing Tretton said, "I can't remember a day that people who have no stake in the profitability of our company have not called for a price cut. I think everybody but us would love to see it given away for free." He continued, "We'll do everything we can do to make our pricing relevant. But remember cheapest isn't always the most successful. It's what you get for your dollar."

Sony continues to press the point that the PS3 is more than a mere gaming console. The PS3 Blu-ray is one of the better Blu-ray players out there thanks to its ability to be upgraded as new Blu-ray features are released. Most standalone Blu-ray players can’t be upgraded with new features.

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By Venomman on 6/15/2009 11:09:05 AM , Rating: 4
Maybe next year have something with a little more zing then the PSP Go.....

RE: Hrmmm
By Uncle on 6/15/2009 11:17:03 AM , Rating: 1
I'm still boycotting them since the rootkit fiasco. Guess what, I have no problem finding good competitor items.

RE: Hrmmm
By mfed3 on 6/15/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hrmmm
By adiposity on 6/15/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hrmmm
By BansheeX on 6/15/2009 12:12:04 PM , Rating: 2
How do you release a product with a known 30% failure rate and manage to call the other side douchebags?

RE: Hrmmm
By theapparition on 6/15/09, Rating: 0
RE: Hrmmm
By Iaiken on 6/15/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hrmmm
By chick0n on 6/15/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hrmmm
By lexluthermiester on 6/17/2009 12:28:02 AM , Rating: 2
And using a completely unconfirmed 30% failure rate is getting old. MS has never released statistics for return rates.

We don't NEED Microsotf to confirm the defective rates. I have two friends that both work in game retail shops. And by their very accurate numbers, averaged between the two shops, 360's still have a 16% defect rate, and after how long being released?!? At one point the rate was as high at 53%! 53 frickin percent! Wii, DS/DSi, PS3 and PSP all are well below 10% and have NEVER been above it. Let's think about that for a moment shall we all?

I am certainly no fan of Sony Music's highly unlawful rootkit nonsense. But that is a different division from the gaming division.

Just like we can't dislike ALL of Microsoft for the monkeyness of the 360 hardware folks. Some of Microsofts folks do get things right. Perfect example, Windows 7. The best OS they have and yet they needed to learn a hard lesson with Vista to bring it into fruition.

My point is, from a software viewpoint, the 360 has been a success, but not from a hardware viewpoint. From that perspective it has been, and I'm going to borrow from a friend, an "EPIC FAIL".

RE: Hrmmm
By adiposity on 6/15/2009 11:43:17 AM , Rating: 5
Totally different division...

RE: Hrmmm
By alifbaa on 6/15/09, Rating: -1
RE: Hrmmm
By BansheeX on 6/15/2009 12:08:41 PM , Rating: 5
Does this coincide with your lifetime boycott of America for slavery and indian genocide?

RE: Hrmmm
By foolsgambit11 on 6/15/2009 3:40:01 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I know, we were total douchebags, to paraphrase another poster's comments.

I like to call this the Idi Amin Effect. Kill one person, go to prison; kill 50, go to prison, but be sickly admired like all serial killers are; kill hundreds of thousands, and somebody will pay you a pension to retire.

To bring things back to Sci&Tech, some more Mac-hating people might call it the Apple Effect. Restrict the versatility of a product a little (like Sony), and you're universally panned. Restrict it a lot, and you're the darling of the world.

RE: Hrmmm
By chick0n on 6/15/2009 3:28:28 PM , Rating: 1
so does that mean no one ever spied on you? ask our great government and your local telcos, and there is nothing you can do about it.

What are you going to do next? move out of the states ?

get a f'ing clue, moron.

RE: Hrmmm
By excelsium on 6/15/2009 8:34:58 PM , Rating: 2
Never heard of Forgive and forget eh.

RE: Hrmmm
By Chocobollz on 6/16/2009 6:40:10 AM , Rating: 2
Nono.. it's a good things to forgive someone for their mistake but you shouldn't forget, because we, as human, have tendencies to make the same mistakes over and over again (including you and me). So, we should not forget!

RE: Hrmmm
By afkrotch on 6/17/2009 9:57:58 AM , Rating: 1
You know, the odds of you actually boycotting Sony is pretty fucking slim. Do you really think you have boycotted them?

Watch The Unusuals? That's Sony. Jeopardy? That's Sony. Here's a nice list of all that Sony Pictures has to offer.

Buy a laptop recently? Bet it's using a Sony battery. Sony is simply too massive for you to boycott them at all. Ppl who think they are actually boycotting Sony are morons.

RE: Hrmmm
By Cincybeck on 6/19/2009 4:24:03 AM , Rating: 1
Shit are you serious? Damnit... Hmm -- You think I could sue them for having a monopoly on my life?

RE: Hrmmm
By Hiawa23 on 6/15/09, Rating: 0
RE: Hrmmm
By Belard on 6/15/2009 10:31:45 PM , Rating: 2
How about the "PSP Go Fast"?

RE: Hrmmm
By armulyman on 6/16/2009 11:38:15 PM , Rating: 2
I would like to see a psp that doubles as a Google android phone. Then I would be able to run all of my home-brew emulators AND have all of those neat Google apps. Not too mention I could throw out my old phone.

Bar none, NES still has the best games around.

Owner of a PS3
By Sadodare on 6/15/2009 12:31:38 PM , Rating: 3
I can easily see why the price tag is what it is...But they could easily do what other people do and make it a lower base line and charge a crap-ton for accessories to make it start to get fun

RE: Owner of a PS3
By fishbits on 6/15/2009 1:02:12 PM , Rating: 2
Umm, the PS3 includes a lot of nice features and should get props for that, but by no means do the other consoles need "a crap-ton for accessiories to make it start to get fun."

I mean, instead of pointing out a PS3 strength it sounds pretty suspect to try and claim other consoles aren't fun from initial purchase onward.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By afkrotch on 6/17/2009 10:02:45 AM , Rating: 2
It sure as hell wasn't fun for me to spend $100 on a 60 gig hdd that is only worth $40. All just so I can install the games onto the hard drive, so I don't have to listen to massive amount of sound coming from the optical drive that is taking away from my fun.

I also had to spent $20 to get rechargeable batteries and a charge cable, as it's not much fun to keep buying batteries and it's really not fun when you have no batteries and no way to use the console.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/15/2009 1:14:28 PM , Rating: 4
I can easily see why the price is what it is as well, it's the name Sony stuck on the front of it....

RE: Owner of a PS3
By cheetah2k on 6/15/2009 9:57:14 PM , Rating: 2
Well considering you can buy "PlayTV" for an extra AU$100 which transforms the PS3 into a HD TV PVR, I reckon the PS3 is actually quite good value.

For example, if i wanted to watch BlueRays, HD TV, record HD TV and play games, It would cost me almost AU$500 more than the value of a PS3 (+ PlayTV) on individual components to do the same job - and then I'd have to deal with a bundle of remote controls too!

I'm not a PS3 fanboy. Infact I rarely play games. I love my Home Cinema though, and I only buy equipment that just make sense.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By Hiawa23 on 6/15/2009 1:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
not sure how this turned into a PS3 fanboy thread, but I also own a PS3 as with all the consoles. The 360 is my favorite. I guess it depends on the gamer as all the nice additions the PS3 came with I really did not need, & the only thing I bought my 360s were a hdd, so all that extra stuff that the Sony fans claim you need to buy for it, you don't. MS doesn't get a pass from me for the RROD issue, but my 2 360s have been more reliable than both my PS1 & Ps2, both of those I had to replace. The PS3 is a great value if you need all that, but apparently the masses don't think so. The topic is about the PSP GO, I thought. Talking price, come this holiday season we will see if the masses rush out to buy the GO, I know I won't be one of them. Some say they see how the price is $250, well, I & many analysts don't, infact many are saying the Go doesn't cost Sony anymore to make than the $169 PSP that they are making money on as the umd drive vs 16gig ram cancels each other out, & seems like this is nothing more than gouge to customers. If you see this as a great value, more power to you, that's what Sony is hoping for.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By deeznuts on 6/15/2009 7:42:31 PM , Rating: 2
The PS3 is a great value if you need all that, but apparently the masses don't think so.
The masses that have bought more than 20 million despite being twice as expensive as the cheapest console which had a year headstart with no competition?

Sony isn't going to win this generation but lets not make silly arguments.

I have all 3 and the Ps3 is my favorite. I've only liked 4 games on my 360 so far, Fable II was ok, Mass Effect was fun (but flawed) and Gears. That's it. I've tried many through gamefly but the other games just don't do it for me.

At least I play the 360 though. The Wii literally sits in my drawer uninstalled.

I found it easier to just buy all 3 then to sit and bicker about which were superior. But I will say the Wii will probably stay in the drawer for a little while more.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By Belard on 6/15/2009 11:12:37 PM , Rating: 1
Thats why it kind of doesn't make sense about people bitching about the price. Its $400... and far more abilities than the original priced Xbox360/20GB which was... $400!

Lets see the xbox play Blu-Ray... nope. Stream/DL 720 compressed video doesn't match the quality of a 25~50GB blu-ray disc. Wireless networking? Oops, thats a $80~100 add-on. Mouse & joystick for some games and internet usage... nope for the Xbox again. User upgradable HD... you have to do what MS has.. They used to charge $100 for the 20GB upgrade and about $180 for the 120GB upgrade. On the PS3... open the trap door, drop in a 500GB drive for $100! Or $65 for a 320GB drive. While MS's "lower price deal" is $140/$95 for the 120GB / 60GB models.

Hmmm. imagin dropping in a SSD unit into the PS3 :)

Other expensive Consoles... and remember, the PS3 is recent.

3DO $700 1994: by 3DO/Panasonic /CD-ROM based. 2 million units.
CD32 $500 1993: by Commdore. Bad timing and management. Could play V-CDs with optional FMV add-on.
NeoGeo $650 1990: Japanese console, $200 cart. Today, those games can go for thousands.

Are the PS3 and PSP failures? No. Are they #1, no.

Expecting the PS3 to cost the same as a $200 Xbox (no HD) or $250 Wii (no DVD playback or HD output) is silly. Its like demanding Porsche to sell their 911 ($80,000) for the same price as a $22,000 Ford Mustang V6.

The PS3 will come down to $200~300 over the next 6~24 months as the tech becomes "old" and cheaper to make.
The PS2 was $300 and didn't include a HD or blu-ray player, no networking or wireless tech.

Now, at $100: Its tiny, includes an Ethernet port. To a large degree - it should compete directly with the Wii. If SONY is a bit smart, they should market it as such. Considering that the PS2's CPU/GPU are a still more powerful and can play DVD movies. Perhaps put it in a slick new white box, they can even make more sales.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By TreeDude62 on 6/16/2009 1:48:54 PM , Rating: 2
Did you just say the PS2 is more powerful that the Wii? I can say you are 100% wrong on that one. Also, with a little trickery, the Wii can play DVDs just fine. But considering most people have DVD players, I don't consider that a big deal.

My 360 plays DVDs, but I hardly use it for that.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By afkrotch on 6/17/2009 10:05:49 AM , Rating: 2
I'm with TreeDude on this. The PS2 is definitely not as powerful as the Wii. Course, the Wii by no means is a powerhouse. It's got as much power as the original Xbox.

RE: Owner of a PS3
By Belard on 6/18/2009 5:44:50 AM , Rating: 2
Okay... the Wii is 1.5~2x faster than the Game Cube.. its hardware specs mirrors some of GC, while the GPU and CPU are enhanced, but not revolutionary.

Theres already articles about how the Wii's hardware is at its limits, already. And that's because its an enhanced GC. But I'm not saying the GC or Wii are bad systems. Wii has the market share it deserves. So with the improvements, that'll put the Wii more-or less on par with the PS2/Xbox.

POint is, PS3 can't be priced the same as a Wii or 360, if it had a DVD drive, rather than Blu-Ray, it would cost the same as the 360 and would have been out a year earlier. PS3's lateness was GOOD for MS, bad for Toshiba.

By snbdr on 6/15/2009 11:55:46 AM , Rating: 2
Tretton said, "I can't remember a day that people who have no stake in the profitability of our company have not called for a price cut.

Because game developers have nothing to gain from a system that people can afford....

RE: ...
By fishbits on 6/15/2009 12:56:06 PM , Rating: 3
"I think everybody but us would love to see it given away for free."

Homey tries to turn reasonable requests for a price cut to bring the 3rd-selling console more in line with the competitors into an unreasonable wish to "give it away for free." Now they're entitled to decide not to cut price, there are pros and cons, but this is a pretty childish (non)response to the issue.

I'd like a PS3, but not for the current price. So instead of titles for it and Blu-ray disks, I'm buying titles for my Wii and 360, and regular DVDs. <shrug>

RE: ...
By Hiawa23 on 6/15/2009 2:06:59 PM , Rating: 2
To Sony it would like giving it away for free, if they cut the price cause the thing cost so much to make, it's not about making a profit, but to lose the least amount of money. Not really our fault the console cost so much to manufacturer, that Sony has no option but to keep the price up, & the way the rest of their divisions are doing in this recession, I don't expect one soon, but again I already have one, so whether or not they reduce the price doesn't affect me. I like the exclusives so I bought one at launch, but I understand many have issue with the price & if Sony doesn't see this, & can't do something about it, those flashy graphics mean nothing & they will continue bringing up the rear, while losing the most money this gen.

RE: ...
By hduser on 6/15/2009 12:56:49 PM , Rating: 1
Yes, cut off the leg to save the toe.

Well ... No.
By BrgMx5 on 6/15/2009 1:41:18 PM , Rating: 3
Tretton said, "At the end of the day, the iPhone is a phone. At the end of the day, we're a game system.... If the iPhone gets you interested in gaming, that's good for me, because it gives me a chance to sell you a PSP."

No you won't get a chance, because i'm not going to carry lots of junk.

Somebody should explain to him, real slow, that people are buying more smartphones so that they can take less things with them.

If an Iphone, or wathever, is a good phone and good for gaming, etc., people won't even touch a PSP, because they will allready have a mobile game platform.

Leaks are part of publicity
By Dribble on 6/15/2009 11:36:52 AM , Rating: 2
Not all leaks are unintentional - if one company is just about to release the new latest greatest product, then the competitor happens to *leak* they have an even better product in the pipe line that can have a huge effect. The great advantage of leaks is they don't even need to be true as they are not *official*. See Charlie at the inquirer for more details.

Gotta give Jack some credit - he is now managing to make more column inches for his chosen product talking about leaks - which he quite possibly authorised in the first place ...

Leaks didn't steal it
By InternetGeek on 6/15/2009 5:02:35 PM , Rating: 2
If you ask me the thunder wasn't actually there. I saw news all around about Project Natal, and even saw a lot of PS3 fans saying it was actually better than their offering. I didn't see anything from Sony, at least, nothing made the news in the same way.

"We basically took a look at this situation and said, this is bullshit." -- Newegg Chief Legal Officer Lee Cheng's take on patent troll Soverain
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