backtop


Print E-mail del.icio.us 33 comment(s) - last by mindless1.. on Jan 27 at 12:27 AM

Russia hopes to build a base on the moon by the year 2020

There has been a lot of talk from several countries about the possibility of building a base for long-term excursions on the moon.  A Russian corporation is the latest contender that wants to build a permanent base on the moon.  The cosmonauts would live at the base while mining the rare isotope Helium-3.  Although there are scarce amounts of the Helium-3 on Earth, the moon supposedly has enough to make such a venture profitable.




Comments     Threshold


This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled

too bad for them
By Hacp on 1/25/2006 10:24:39 PM , Rating: 3
News flash russia. USA owns he moon




RE: too bad for them
By Furen on 1/25/2006 10:31:09 PM , Rating: 2
The USA put a flag on the moon and did a few moon walks... then we just stopped caring. It'd hardly call that "owning" it.


RE: too bad for them
By mindless1 on 1/25/2006 10:40:29 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry but if you got there first, you own the land.

What I still can't understand in this day and age is, WHY have we not patented every conceivable means of getting off this planet so you're all just STUCK here?


RE: too bad for them
By smitty3268 on 1/25/2006 11:00:59 PM , Rating: 4
There is an international treaty that says no one owns the moon - much like Antarctica. (I'm pretty sure...)


RE: too bad for them
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 1/25/2006 11:29:04 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Sorry but if you got there first, you own the land.


More like, if you can defend it, it's yours.


RE: too bad for them
By smitty3268 on 1/25/2006 11:59:11 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, I was just thinking there are some Native Americans who might disagree.


RE: too bad for them
By Furen on 1/26/2006 12:06:45 AM , Rating: 2
Disagreeing doesn't really help them a whole lot, though.


RE: too bad for them
By Furen on 1/26/2006 12:05:20 AM , Rating: 2
What he said. We have planted a flag and not done anything else with the moon. We probably could have built something over there if we had cared to, but we didnt. I'm glad someone is actually paying attention to the moon again, the government basically lost interest as the cold war drew to an end.

Also we cant just "patent" every mean of getting off the planet. First off, before you can patent something you have to "demonstrate" it on paper, and those papers end up turning into public domain. That means anyone who cares to ignore the patents (aka China) can just use these as a reference for his own research, you cant just say "I patent rocket propulsion" or something. Then there's the fact that the government doesn't actually build anything. It tells companies to built stuff and those companies, in their eternal drive for higher profits, are hardly the most "loyal" entities.


RE: too bad for them
By mindless1 on 1/27/2006 12:27:20 AM , Rating: 2
Apparently you can in fact just patent things like this, haven't you been paying attention to some of the patents?

Sure, someone can ignore them just as someone could ignore any patent, just as anyone can use any patent for side-stepping their own research by copying it. While I was just joking, the real joke is that it is entirely conceivable within the context of what's been going on in recent years.


RE: too bad for them
By CrackRabbit on 1/26/2006 12:03:36 AM , Rating: 2
We put a flag in it, good enough. ;)Watch some Eddie Izzard some time.
We stole countries with the cunning use of flags! Yeah, just sail around the world and stick a flag in.

"I claim India for Britain!"

They go, "You can't claim us, we live here! 500 million of us!"

"Do you have a flag?"

"We don't need a bloody flag! It's our country, you bastards!"

"No flag, no country, you can't have one! That's the rules that I've just made up, and I'm backing it up with this gun that was lent from the National Rifle Association."


RE: too bad for them
By Schadenfroh on 1/26/2006 8:50:42 AM , Rating: 3
The US WILL control the moon:

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/conspiracies/58987

quote:
High-level Pentagon sources confirm that U.S. Marines and Air Force personnel are receiving special training from NASA in preparation for a massive 1,200-man invasion of Earth's satellite set for May 2004.

"The President's position is that when we planted a flag on the lunar surface in 1969, we in effect staked a claim to the moon under every principle of international law," reveals a Defense Department insider.

"Putting a large expeditionary force on the ground will back up that claim with muscle and allow us to make the moon America's 51st state." The far-sighted move could be a brilliant coup for the commander-in-chief.

"He believes that securing the moon for the United States will cement his legacy as one of our greatest presidents, just as the Louisiana Purchase did for Thomas Jefferson," explains the source.

When John F. Kennedy first set the goal of putting a man on the moon by the end of the decade back in 1961, the original intent was to claim the vast new territory for the United States, the source reveals.

"But by the time Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon on July 20, 1969, President Nixon was concerned that seizing the area might heat up the Cold War and was pointless since we didn't have the technology to colonize it at the time anyway," he says. "Now, of course, we do."

The plan, code-named Operation Soaring Liberty, remains top secret. "We know that the Europeans will raise a ruckus when we announce the moon is ours," explains the insider. "If we gave them any advance warning, they'd have the plan mired in a U.N. debate for years. The element of surprise is crucial here, as it was in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

"By the time the international community finds out about it, we'll have an army up there and no one could even dream of trying to dislodge us."

Details of the sneak-attack plan are hard to come by, although it's rumored that the ambitious scheme involves an armada of 100 space shuttle-like vehicles already under production by a well-known defense contractor.

Among the advantages cited by Bush advisors in planning sessions:

* Our troops will face no resistance since the moon is uninhabited.
* Colonization will be easy because the moon is far closer than any planet.
* Huge oil reserves discovered on the moon by NASA earlier this year -- a still-classified development first reported in the April 15 issue of Weekly World News -- will meet America's energy needs for the next 100 years.

Congressional Democrats, who dislike unilateral U.S. action, signed on to the secret plan after the president made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

"As a concession to Al Gore, who won a plurality of votes in the 2000 election, Bush has agreed to appoint him live-in governor of the moon," the source revealed.

Despite the shroud of secrecy, rumors about the upcoming invasion are making the rounds in diplomatic circles -- and Europe is hopping mad.

"The French feel they have just as much right to the moon as America, even though no Frenchman's ever risked his life in space and the closest one has got to the moon is in the writings of Jules Verne," the source says.

"The president disagrees. He told us, 'Many brave American astronauts have already sacrificed their lives in the space race -- we've earned the right to colonize the moon. And the entire universe.'"

By: MIKE FOSTER


RE: too bad for them
By bldckstark on 1/26/2006 12:38:03 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, oil comes from dead animals and vegetation. How many dinosaurs have we found on the moon? That is the most idiotic crap I have ever read. 100 space shuttles, LOL!


RE: too bad for them
By swishbish33 on 1/26/2006 1:11:08 AM , Rating: 3
Owning the moon...hilarious. If we do own the moon, why do we share its light with the rest of the world? Damn you free-loading Europeans, Asians, Africans, etc. Give us our moonlight back.


RE: too bad for them
By timmiser on 1/26/2006 1:28:27 PM , Rating: 2
We "owned" the moon in 1969 but we stopped making payments by the mid 70's. Our ownership was forclosed in the 80's and the moon has been looking for new owners ever since.


Lunar landing?
By maxusa on 1/26/2006 2:06:43 PM , Rating: 2
There are still questions about the Appolo program being a hoax. The publicly available "evidence" of the landings and hollywood showbiz have too much in common. I'd like to see a modern day expedition find conclusive human activity evidence from 1969~72, or lack thereof. Hope I will be around to see that day.


Fiction meets reality
By mindless1 on 1/25/2006 10:09:29 PM , Rating: 1
In the good ole days one might worry about being exiled to Siberia, but now. Alice, TO THE MOON!




RE: Fiction meets reality
By bribud on 1/25/2006 10:20:22 PM , Rating: 1
Yep. And just think of what's next.


Journalism at it's finest
By bldckstark on 1/26/2006 12:42:30 PM , Rating: 3
This should have been included in the news posting -

Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in nuclear fusion. Rare on earth but plentiful on the moon, it is seen by some experts as an ideal fuel because it is powerful, non-polluting and generates almost no radioactive by-product.




RE: Journalism at it's finest
By kattanna on 1/26/2006 2:42:17 PM , Rating: 2
LOL..and they didnt even reference the book that that comes from



By ZeroKnightRaiden on 1/26/2006 3:19:07 PM , Rating: 2
Only Minovsky Particles, apparently.


Descent Level 1?
By AggressorPrime on 1/25/2006 11:28:06 PM , Rating: 3
This reminds me of Interplay's Descent and its 1st level, a mine on the moon.




RE: Descent Level 1?
By Visual on 1/26/2006 6:00:07 AM , Rating: 2
nice game, i admit...
... but wow are you weird, remembering details like that.


RE: Descent Level 1?
By AggressorPrime on 1/26/2006 4:03:33 PM , Rating: 2
When you are a big time Descent fan, it is pretty easy to recall the first level of the first game perfectly.


Oh no....
By theubergeek on 1/25/2006 11:10:20 PM , Rating: 4
In Soviet Russia, the moon mines you!!




RE: Oh no....
By NoToRiOuS1 on 1/26/2006 12:37:37 AM , Rating: 2
oh no...not this again...just when i thought people were finally done with this....here it comes once again. how many years ago did that family guy episode air...anyone remember?


I wouldn't do it
By shaw on 1/26/2006 9:29:22 AM , Rating: 2
If the Russians had played EVE online they'd know how boring it is to mine mineral out in space.

Very interesting though.




RE: I wouldn't do it
By Lifted on 1/26/2006 11:17:28 AM , Rating: 2
Well, if EVE can be used to gauge the number of dopes out there willing to mine in space, for hours on end, and for pretend money, then just think how many people will be willing to do it for real money.


RE: I wouldn't do it
By shaw on 1/26/2006 4:02:59 PM , Rating: 2
That just makes too much sense actually.


Russian economic growth Vs American Imperialism
By Unreal on 1/26/2006 6:00:31 AM , Rating: 2
On one hand Russians shouldnt be allowed to mine the moon with all profits going to them. On the other hand US should stop trying to own every place. On the third hand i am a 3-handed Alien and the moon is mine!.




By Unreal on 1/26/2006 6:04:10 AM , Rating: 2
LOL! I didnt realize at first place the duality of the meaning of the word "mine" in the last sentence.


too expensive
By DrZoidberg on 1/25/2006 10:20:50 PM , Rating: 2
i think its ALOT cheaper to mine or buy uranium for nuclear reactors.




quade says:
By shaitan on 1/26/2006 9:39:47 AM , Rating: 2
If we did patent every conceivable means of getting off this planet the Chineese would just copy it and sell on the black market. or.. the chineese market

quade also things we should open a huge nightclub on the moon and go there on weekends to party. get some of thoes AWOL machines they are trying to outlaw.




no more moon
By bbomb on 1/26/2006 11:15:04 PM , Rating: 2
So this means that by 2021 there will be no more moon left? Once humans get a tangible hold on it we will strip that bitch clean until there are only a few dust particles left. Then we will scrap together a probe to snatch them up so that we can anylze them.




"It seems as though my state-funded math degree has failed me. Let the lashings commence." -- DailyTech Editor-in-Chief Kristopher Kubicki

DailyTech Poll
Which web browser do you use on your primary personal machine? 






44 Comments









botimage
Copyright 2009 DailyTech LLC. - RSS Feed | Advertise | About Us | Ethics | FAQ | Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information | Kristopher Kubicki