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According to reports, Microsoft will layoff 17% of its global workforce

Microsoft is one of the biggest and most profitable companies in the technology industry. The company has its hands on many different projects from software to internet search and more. The company is always out to find new methods of making money.

One of its most recent patent applications outlined a method of charging users under a pay-per-use method for computing that would have computers given for free or at a greatly discounted price. Microsoft so far during the global economic crisis has been able to avoid any mass layoffs or restructuring, but according to some reports that may change drastically in a few weeks.

CNET News reports that rumors are circulating that have Microsoft possibly cutting 17% of its global workforce on January 15. If the rumor turns out to be true, Microsoft would be letting go 15,000 people from its 90,000 employee pool.

Earlier rumors had Microsoft laying off a more modest 10% of its workforce. The Microsoft team likely to take the hardest hit according to reports is the MSN search unit. Cuts are likely to come in this unit and other struggling business units.

Microsoft units that are profitable are not likely to see cuts in staff. CNET News quotes industry veteran Henry Blodget saying that. "Unless Microsoft's business has been absolutely crushed in the past two months, there is no reason for the company to suddenly cut this much cost. Microsoft's margins are still fine, and much of its revenue is generated from multi-year contracts."

Blodget does think that there is a potential for restructuring at Microsoft and that any potential restructuring is likely to center around MSN. Blodget says, "The only way we could see Microsoft laying off this many people is if the company decided to eliminate business units. And if Microsoft did decide to restructure its business, it would likely sell rather than shut down divisions, including MSN.”

Microsoft is looking hard at areas where it can make money or save money. Making money is the reason that Microsoft keeps postponing the retirement of Windows XP. XP is huge in the netbook market thanks to the fact that most netbooks won't run Vista and Linux isn't appealing to many customers.

After the long running and ultimately fruitless attempt by Microsoft to purchase Yahoo, many will find it very unlikely that Redmond would suddenly try to sell its MSN unit to Yahoo. Microsoft and many other firms see Internet advertising as the future and removing itself from that market wouldn't make much sense for Microsoft. However, if Blodget is correct and Microsoft gave MSN to Yahoo in exchange for a large part of Yahoo it could potentially pull Yahoo from the brink of collapse and result in a search engine with more draw than Google.

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Netbook + Vista
By noirsoft on 1/2/2009 6:07:21 PM , Rating: 5
XP is huge in the netbook market thanks to the fact that most netbooks won't run Vista

Not true. Most netbooks will run Vista just fine, it's just that there is a belief that they can't run Vista, so manufacturers don't put Vista on them, leading to a belief that they can't run Vista. Catch-22.

RE: Netbook + Vista
By jtesoro on 1/3/2009 7:57:14 AM , Rating: 2
Is there any place where we can read about someone actually putting in Vista on a netbook so we can be better informed about it?

I just installed Vista Basic last night on a PC with a P4 1.8Ghz, 600MB+ RAM and S3 integrated video. Used only for Open Office and that's it. No internet.

It works but it's quite sluggish. Not sure if it'll drive the user nuts, but we'll see. I wonder how Vista on a netbook compares to that.

RE: Netbook + Vista
By guidoq on 1/4/2009 2:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
600MB+ RAM is the biggest problem. Its more than the minimum spec but it will be definitely hurt performance.

RE: Netbook + Vista
By Dreifort on 1/6/2009 2:35:49 PM , Rating: 2
old response from Intel regarding their netbook processor:

Centrino Atom will be launched in the first half of 2008, which means that early devices (UMPCs and Mobile Internet Devices) will break into the marketplace around the middle of the year. At CES we showcased a variety of designs based on Centrino Atom. You can learn more about that at Engadget. Search word MID.

Can these run Vista? Yes and plenty adequately too. You will see MIDs and UMPCs running Vista and Linux. The linux will be based on Moblin ( Moblin is Intel’s open source project targeting these devices. From a consumer standpoint, there will be both options to choose from.

Expect to see a variety of designs based on Linux and Vista coming in 2008.

As other posters have said, it's more on memory requirements. Most netbooks will have 512MB or 1GB. Unoffically, the HP mini (their netbook) will actually support 2GB.... but licensing with Intel only allows them to promote 1GB. (I guess Intel has only tested their Atom to meet 1GB compliance standards - I have no idea...excpet the HPs will support 2 GB).

RE: Netbook + Vista
By Alexstarfire on 1/3/2009 8:42:19 AM , Rating: 2
Even if they could run Vista would you want it to? Netbooks have a max of 1GB of RAM, that I've seen so far anyways, and run on chips that perform worse than a 900Mhz Celeron, or equal to it if you have a netbook with that CPU. I'm actually surprised XP runs as well as it does.

RE: Netbook + Vista
By ajvitaly on 1/4/2009 9:24:23 AM , Rating: 2
You easily you forget Vista's initial release, and all the computers with "Vista capable" stickers that lawsuits were filed over. If low end desktops and notebooks have such user-breaking experiences with Vista, netbooks would be that much worse.

There is a reason vendors are opting to use XP over Vista.

Reminds me of the signs I see on the road...
By Darkk on 1/2/2009 9:33:58 PM , Rating: 3
Near construction zones I see a sign that says,

"Slow down, my daddy works here"

Now I see,

"Install IE7, my daddy works at Microsoft"

By Chocobollz on 1/5/2009 8:00:34 AM , Rating: 2
My answer is, "Okay, I will install IE7 if you let me taste your Mum, kid"

Note: j/k :p

By Smilin on 1/5/2009 11:16:47 AM , Rating: 3
According to reports, Microsoft will layoff 17% of its global workforce

Don't hold your breath.

You don't cut costs at a manufacturing company by getting rid of machines on the factory floor. Similarly you don't cut costs at a software company by getting rid of the brains that write the software.

This rumor was likely spawned by some stock analyis that doesn't really understand MS.

Debate me if you will but I'll be back next month with a big fat I-told-you-so.

By Smilin on 1/15/2009 9:26:36 AM , Rating: 2

By Denithor on 1/4/2009 11:23:52 PM , Rating: 2
However, if Blodget is correct and Microsoft gave MSN to Yahoo in exchange for a large part of Yahoo it could potentially pull Yahoo from the brink of collapse and result in a search engine with more draw than Google.

Even if this occurs they will have to fix their search technology before anyone will seriously consider migrating to MSN/Yahoo search. When MS offered the Live Cashback program for several months, I used their search engine to reap the benefits. But I found that their search was much worse than the results I obtained from Google. In fact, I often had to find what I was looking for with Google first to gather enough info to get a useful hit with Live search.

By patton45 on 1/5/2009 5:20:20 PM , Rating: 2
Just so everyone here is aware i am running vista ultimate 64bit on my notebook flawlessly with absolutly no lag or driver issues to speak of what so ever. I have a intel dual core 1.6ghz proc with 4gb ram and it runs great. All of you vista haters or people who hate it because everyone else out there does need to lear that just because one person doesnt like it doesnt mean it sucks. If you were just a little more open-minded and gave it a chance i bet 80% of you would like it. The thing is vista is just like xp when it came out i remember when xp came out everyone hated it! it was so bad according to the mainstream people no one wanted to go away from windows 2000 well now look at all you vista hatters that now are using xp the once declared more bunk that windows me os. I think you all that have a semi decent pc with ram should give it a chance and not judge it based on what someone else says. And as far as the microsoft restructing goes it will be good for ms in the long haul to rework the msn division to make it profitable and get new ideas in there and get rid of the people who try to change things without actually making it any better.

and stay out....
By codeThug on 1/2/09, Rating: 0
I wish there was an option
By Regs on 1/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: I wish there was an option
By GoodBytes on 1/2/2009 11:54:47 AM , Rating: 3
Fist, already MSN is not included in Windows...

Second, great! so you install Windows, by selecting "No Internet Explorer". Windows finished installed, and then what?
Oups, you have no web browser to install the web browser you want, let alone drivers.

RE: I wish there was an option
By Regs on 1/2/2009 12:14:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, that would be kind of like Linux wouldn't it?

RE: I wish there was an option
By Laereom on 1/2/2009 12:52:34 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah...right...except for the fact that you don't NEED any web browser to install any web browser in synaptic any Debian-based Linux distro.

RE: I wish there was an option
By retrospooty on 1/2/2009 1:10:09 PM , Rating: 2
You dont need it in windows either... Provided you have the the executable file.

RE: I wish there was an option
By on 1/2/09, Rating: -1
By retrospooty on 1/3/2009 9:05:45 PM , Rating: 3
Wow... I dont know what to say to that. I dunno if your nuts, or just plain stupid. :(

By Alexstarfire on 1/3/2009 8:37:20 AM , Rating: 2
Considering that there is an option in nLite to remove MSN Explorer from the Windows XP Installation CD it's probably on there somewhere. Course, I have that removed so I can't check.

RE: I wish there was an option
By cochy on 1/2/2009 11:56:26 AM , Rating: 3
You can strip those components out with certain tools creating a slimmer installation of Windows. I believe the tool is called nLite.

RE: I wish there was an option
By Gzus666 on 1/2/2009 11:56:27 AM , Rating: 1
There is, slipstream your disk. I forget the tool I last used and it can be done manually if you are a masochist, but run a search for XP slipstream and you can play with the ISO to do just about whatever you want.

RE: I wish there was an option
By Gastrian on 1/3/2009 6:21:05 AM , Rating: 2
I used WinLite to slipstream my disc. My XP SP2 disc has now been converted to a XP SP3 disc with the product key already loaded so I don't have to keep looking for it, the driver base deleted and replaced with the drivers straight from the manufacturers and removed all the language packs and applications I don't need.

By Spookster on 1/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: Please.....
By Omega215D on 1/2/2009 11:44:38 AM , Rating: 4
The ones who are improving its core by creating Windows 7? Vista isn't a bad OS and had almost the same teething issues as XP. If anything MS should cut their marketing department as those ads did nothing in comparison to Apple's ads.

Maybe those in charge of the Zune should drop a few as a warning to the rest. Playforsure my rear.

RE: Please.....
By Bateluer on 1/2/2009 11:59:16 AM , Rating: 2
People have short memories. We go through the same crap with every OS MS releases.

The Zune has been a joke almost from day 1 though.

RE: Please.....
By tank171 on 1/2/2009 1:37:49 PM , Rating: 5
Have you ever even used a zune? Have you subscribed to the zune software and gotten unlimited song downloads for $15 a month? They dont have all songs available, and not all can be downloaded under the subscription, but there are millions that are.

This is exactly like vista. Everyone thinks it sucks for some reason, then never get it or even try it. I think that anyone that has one or has tried one will tell you that they are just as good as iPods.

RE: Please.....
By n0nsense on 1/2/09, Rating: 0
RE: Please.....
By Smilin on 1/5/2009 5:00:23 PM , Rating: 2
Actually you do get something for your $15/month.

1. You RENT all the music you want. If it sucks you throw it away.
2. You OWN 10 songs a month at no extra charge. Unlike with iTunes it's guaranteed you'll love those 10 songs because you did #1 first. **No DRM either**
3. Get access to a media player that makes iTunes look like a circa 2002 tinker toy.

Seriously the Zune device and service are superior to iPod/iTunes and MS has done one right. You're such a blind MS hater that you'll never know. Cheers!

RE: Please.....
By Smilin on 1/5/2009 5:04:22 PM , Rating: 2
ah... I just saw the "if it doesn't have something you want" part of your post.

In that case cancel your subscription at no cost whatsoever. It comes with a free trial.

The selection on Zune is the same as iTunes. The big difference is the artist bio/relationship database and user community. It makes it very easy to find new music based on related artists, and looking at playlists of other users who like what you like.

Maybe you didn't know this stuff? Zune is definately a smaller marketshare than iTunes so I could understand. I'm glad I chucked iTunes for Zune myself. You should try the's nice.

RE: Please.....
By Varun on 1/2/2009 8:41:35 PM , Rating: 4
First of all, the Zune hardware is great. Picture an iPod with a better interface, built in wi-fi for content sync, and purchase from the Zune Marketplace. Add in a radio, and throw in the cool feature of being able to buy a song that you hear on the radio instantly from anywhere you have Wi-Fi, or if you do not, it queues it for the next time you do have a connection!

Second, the Zune software is one of the best things to ever come out of Microsoft. It is easy to use and looks amazing. It is probably one of the best pieces of software to manage your media.

Third, playsforsure does not work with the Zune as you said, but that was by design. They wanted to make something that was 100% controlled by the Zune team - and who can blame them? Look at the mess that is Windows Mobile...

If some of the Zune team goes MS will be losing some of their best. Really - if there was ANY marketing at all of the Zune (and maybe a better name) I am sure it would be selling much better than it is. I am going to go with your point about cutting some marketing people.

Since I hate DRM anyway I have not put a single DRM song on my Zune... and with Zune marketplace moving to 100% mp3 content - why would you? I suppose if you have the Zune Pass which turned into a great deal in the last couple months when they added the 10 free songs per month on top of the unlimited subscription.

RE: Please.....
By Omega215D on 1/3/2009 12:27:46 AM , Rating: 2
No arguments about how good a player the Zune is. Without an EQ the sound is still better than the iPod Touch while having a lower price. The radio is clear and contains some bass in it (nothing beats the Samsung P2 in radio quality) and the battery tends to last quite long.

I was mainly criticizing the marketing folks and I did want an EQ in the 16 GB flash Zune (heavily considering getting one or a P2 or Cowon S9). I just found it odd how other brand players had that PlaysForSure logo on it and the Zune didn't, quite possibly leading Apple minded people to believe MS doesn't believe in their product.

RE: Please.....
By robinthakur on 1/5/2009 8:04:26 AM , Rating: 2
Is that why the Zune was such a big success? Deal breakers for a lot of people:

-Its made by MS
-The name is as geek-awful as Gimp.
-Brown is not a good colour for any electronic device aimed at the mass market. This is the colour I saw mostly on the internet for the G1 Zune.
-Its not an iPod and doesn't work with iTunes, hence most people won't want to switch, and lose all their music.
-It doesn't *appear* to innovate, only to copy.

Shallow yes. Important...yes. The technical stuff, most people couldn't give two hoots about... The biggest problem with the Zune was that MS didn't know how to market it confidently and didn't show any fortitude leading most sensible people to assume that they were just testing the waters and the product and service would only be around a couple of years before being quietly end of lifed. Its not even released in Europe! Most non-IT, non-mental people don't go "Wow, what a well designed OS!" In case you haven't noticed, the interface on its competitor is thought to be pretty good also. Mix in the negative publicity recently with the Zunes stopping working in 2009 + Appstore on the Touch/iPhone and this product has run out of lives. Game over Zune...You lost MS a tonne of money...

RE: Please.....
By TomZ on 1/2/2009 2:27:23 PM , Rating: 2
let it be the ones who create Vista.
Jim Allchin was in charge of the development of Vista, and he's since been replaced, I mean retired.

Cached income.....
By crystal clear on 1/3/09, Rating: -1
RE: Cached income.....
By Alexstarfire on 1/3/2009 8:34:52 AM , Rating: 3
Actually, the internet is a mere tool for the computer to use. About the only thing I can't do directly on a computer with no internet is play online games with it. If the OS is still functional, minus the internet, I can still play single player games, convert video, use office applications on it (like word, excel, and other such programs), as well as many other things. If the OS doesn't work at all then there really isn't anything you can do with the computer period.

RE: Cached income.....
By crystal clear on 1/3/09, Rating: 0
RE: Cached income.....
By Alexstarfire on 1/3/2009 5:29:51 PM , Rating: 2
I guess you don't care about privacy. That sounds highly illegal to me. Ohhh, and I it's probably not highly accurate either. I guess you don't remember when Microsoft first came out with that Windows Genuine Advantage tool. It told thousands of legitimate users that they had pirated OSes.

Ohh, not to mention that you are way overestimating how many people connect to the internet. I doubt even half the world connects to the internet daily, let alone have an "always on" broadband connection.

RE: Cached income.....
By crystal clear on 1/5/2009 1:31:09 AM , Rating: 1
I guess you don't care about privacy.

If you read my original comment the countries mentioned with emphasis on China/East Europe/Former Soviet Union etc have NO PRIVACY at all & never had any nor will they get any.

Those ethics/laws about privacy we know about are good only for the USA & E.U.

As for the Windows Genuine Advantage tool yes you are right there were glitches/bugs etc but in the course of time the software has vastly improved & getting better by the day.

As for people logging on to the internet - India & China both have a HUGE population in the billions in cities/towns (& not rural areas) who have access to the internet & have computers.

The concentration of people in/near cities are huge- I happen to travel frequently on business to these regions above, so I see for myself.

Example- MUMBAI (India) has population of 15 million ++ (they themselves dont know the exact figure) people living in the city from penthouses to slums all have from TVs to computers & ofcourse internet.

Say 1 billion of these people (India & China) using pirated O.S. in these population centres are blocked access & have NO CHOICE but to opt for LICENSED version- there you have 1 billion licenses sold,which in terms of money is huge !

RE: Cached income.....
By crystal clear on 1/5/2009 1:52:41 AM , Rating: 2
About Mumbai-

and the Mumbai Metropolitan Area has a population of 20,870,764.

The population density is estimated to be about 22,000 persons per square kilometre.

The overall literacy rate of the city is above 86%, higher than the national average.

RE: Cached income.....
By just4U on 1/3/2009 12:01:44 PM , Rating: 4
I happen to disagree with you here CC. Microsoft is where it is today (partiallY) because of their OS being pirated. While there is a downside (naturally) there are also a huge upside thanks to the popularity and adoption factor.

RE: Cached income.....
By crystal clear on 1/3/2009 12:21:01 PM , Rating: 1
Note this-

Microsoft's general counsel, Brad Smith, publicly alleged that open-source products Linux and OpenOffice infringe no less than 235 of Microsoft's patents.

Now if M.S goes to court then it could mean the end of Linux & OpenOffice.

RE: Cached income.....
By deadrats on 1/3/2009 2:31:35 PM , Rating: 2
the funny thing is that the TCP/IP stack in windows 2000 is known to be based on the bsd TCP/IP stack, if microsoft ever did go to court they would have a number of defenses to overcome:

1) the validity of the patent in question, microsoft recently had a patent application rejected and the patent office in the past has over-turned a number of software patents, the first thing the EFF would try to do is get at least some of microsoft's software patents invalidated and microsoft does not want to risk that.

2) microsoft would need to make the source code to its products available for examination by independant court appointed examiners in order to compare the source between its products and the open source products, and microsoft is loath to releasing its source code to anyone.

3) even if it was found that microsoft's products and the open source products do in fact share a common code base microsoft would have to establish "prior art", i.e. that theirs came first and that the open source community reverse engineered microsoft's products and stole the code. any reasonable person would more naturally assume that it was easier for microsoft to steal from the public domain than it was for the open source community to steal from microsoft.

4) and lastly, assume microsoft was able to prove its case and won, how exactly would they go about collecting damages and from who? the open source community is what's known as "the public domain", who exactly would they sue? novell (they can't, they have licensing agreements with them), redhat (also licensing agreements), sun (again, licensing agreements)? how would they go about preventing the sharing of open source software around the world?

it's silly, it's "chest thumbing" on the part of the general counsel, and nothing more than that.

RE: Cached income.....
By deadrats on 1/3/2009 2:17:45 PM , Rating: 3
everything you said is so absolutely stupid i just had to respond.

1) despite what you think there is no way for an ISP to know if the end user is using a pirated copy of windows, if you think it is then you have a lot to learn about OSes in general and the TCP/IP stack in particular.

2) you are making the same silly assumption that the mpaa, riaa and bsa always seem to make which is to assume that if piracy was removed as an option that all those people would suddenly buy the product they were "stealing" all along. that's absolute nonsense and shows a fundemental misunderstanding of human nature: if the people that are using "pirated" software had predisposition to buying software then they would be buying it right now. if you eliminate the option to "steal" it they will either a) find a away around the protections (and believe me, with a hex editor, a run-time debugger and some programming know-how it's pretty easy) or b) find a legally free alternative.

what most likely would happen is that people who used to pirate and now are unable to do so, would turn to linux or a free-bsd based solution, like the excellent pc-bsd or desktop bsd, and what's worse once word got around that there was an equally capable legally free alternative, people would move away from proprietary software and micrsoft would actually end up losing more money in the long run.

don't you think microsoft could stop the piracy of their software in a heartbeat if they wanted to? all they would have to do is start selling windows pre-installed on a usb (or even better an eSATA) flash drive that included hardware anti-copy protections. such a thumb drive would effectively be piracy proof, would easily enforce a 1 license per pc licensing model, would ensure that microsoft got paid for every copy of their software sold, would be impervious to virii, trojans, rootkits and malware, would never need updating and would run fast as hell, but they don't do it for the reasons i outlined above.

as balmer once said, open source, particularly the gpl, is viral in nature (he was actually talking about why microsoft doesn't officially build on any open source projects), much like the concept of political freedom, once people get a taste of legally free software the idea is ingrained into their heads, and if you remove the option of using "pirated" software they will look for free alternatives.

bill gates once said "if they must pirate someone's software, we prefer that they pirate our's", primarily because of a business concept known as "market presence", as a company name recognition is an invaluable thing, so long as windows stays in the public conscienceness, microsoft stays relevant and they can leverage the relevance into a revenue stream by actually getting some people to buy their software, as well as income from subscription fees, volume licensing deals and support fees.

microsoft knows what it's doing, they do just enough to keep piracy in check to acceptable levels but not enough to squash it completely, and that's just the way they want it.

RE: Cached income.....
By Chocobollz on 1/5/2009 8:30:52 AM , Rating: 1
This will force all those using a pirated version to BUY a licensed version of the O.S.

Or, they can use Linux, and

This will immediately reflect positively on M.S. sales & income.

Microsoft gain nothing from it? (except making their competitors more popular?)

By the way, I think that piracy is not the same as theft, this is already been discussed so many times here..

Mega corporations timing...
By dj LiTh on 1/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: Mega corporations timing...
By ThatNewGuy on 1/2/2009 11:56:28 AM , Rating: 4
You forget people don't care about people.

RE: Mega corporations timing...
By dj LiTh on 1/2/2009 11:58:26 AM , Rating: 5
people do care about people, but groups of people deffinitally dont care about people

RE: Mega corporations timing...
By amanojaku on 1/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: Mega corporations timing...
By Spectator on 1/2/2009 12:19:35 PM , Rating: 2
If it was YOUR money.

A) you would not just throw it away keeping others employed.

B) you would not tell them sht until you had secured any advatage those ppl knew or had knoledge about.

Its just commen sence.. Imagine you had won the lottery.

Would you tell anyone before you claimed your prize?.. or even better leave the ticket sat in your house and go on a break for a month before you claim it?

If you trust human nature and feel you can trust ppl to do the right thing; your in the minority its sad really; I prefer to trust/test others.

But hey. If we were all good thier would be no need for police or armed forces?.. Sad but un-deniable logic.

By Alexstarfire on 1/3/2009 8:30:58 AM , Rating: 2
Technically it's not the CEO's or the president's money either, it's the company's.

RE: Mega corporations timing...
By stmok on 1/2/2009 8:17:27 PM , Rating: 2
dj LiTh says:

I know the whole goal of a corporation is to make money and trimming the fat is indeed a great way to do that... in theory... but i mean couldnt they wait a year before they put 15,000 people out of work given the economy.... i dont know call it being friendly... Or at the very least if they're going to let go so many people i think it would be good to give the people some advanced warning, say 6months to a year. I mean microsoft is sitting on how many billions and billions of dollars, but they need some more money at the expense of some of their works blood sweat and in this case tears.

Corporations don't exist to "make you feel better". They are liable only to themselves and to their shareholders. (And maybe to the Law...If they are caught).

There is NO moral obligation for them to "do good" in any way, shape, or form. Sounds cold? Because that's the reality of the situation.

A corporation, if viewed as a person, is what one calls a psychopath. Its only focus is making money and getting its way...Disregarding the quality of product they produce, the effect on the environment, the effects on humanity, etc. They simply do NOT care. Period.

I've got no issue with making money. The concern is how one makes it. That should be the focus.

RE: Mega corporations timing...
By drycrust on 1/3/2009 11:43:37 AM , Rating: 2
I totally agree. It is just plainly inconsiderate to lay off such a large number of highly specialised people working in a small technological niche in such a small amount of time.
Laying off people like this sort of looks amateurish or archaic, like the company can't afford the software or something.
Well, it will be goodbye XP updates and goodbye Office 2003 and earlier updates.

By SoCalBoomer on 1/3/2009 8:02:18 PM , Rating: 2
did you read the article? It's non-profitable groups that will see the layoffs. . . Windows and Office aren't unprofitable. . .they're the core of MS's business.

Inconsiderate? Since when is it a corporation's role to be considerate?

Jobs don't exist to give people money - they exist because something needs to be DONE and if that job no longer provides the company a worthwhile service, then it should be cut.

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