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First beta version of new Office productivity suite could come next week

A Dutch website called bouweenpc.nl claims to have sources reporting that Microsoft has completed the first public beta of Office 2013 and it will be released sometime next week. Microsoft has already showed a live public demo of the Windows RT version of Office 2013 at the TechEd conference in Orlando, hinting that the new version of the productivity suite is close to finished.

While Windows 8 has seen three versions offered to the public so far for download, there have been no public versions of Office 2013 offered. So far, the only version of Office 2013 to be released was a Technical Preview given to some developers and partners in January of this year.

At this point it's still unclear what Microsoft will call the productivity suite. Microsoft typically sticks to Office and year date for its products, but the internal codename for the software has been Office 15. Office 15 is how Microsoft has referred to the software suite when speaking about it, we assume Office 2013 will be the official name. Microsoft will include a version of Office on every Windows RT tablet sold, including its own Surface tablet

The final version of Office 2013 is not expected to launch until Q1 of next year.

Source: Neowin



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Microsoft's business model
By johnsmith9875 on 6/29/2012 10:20:17 AM , Rating: 2
Keep buying the same productivity suite from them over, and over and over again.

I think I'm gonna skip this development cycle, Office 2003 has been working just fine. Microsoft probably will put some sort of programming incompatibility or timebomb to keep older Office Suites from loading in Windows 8.




RE: Microsoft's business model
By althaz on 6/29/2012 10:43:57 AM , Rating: 3
If you are using Office 2003 you are doing yourself a disservice. Office 2007 is a HUGE step up on 2003, 2010 could be argued to be worth the upgrade from 2007. We'll see what happens with 2013, but if it's as good as 2007 to 2010 plenty of people will upgrade (although I probably won't).


RE: Microsoft's business model
By JJBladester on 6/29/2012 10:52:51 AM , Rating: 3
"If you are using Office 2003 you are doing yourself a disservice."

AGREED! I support Office 2003 for a client base of ~2,000 employees daily. It is great, but when you've seen what 2007 and 2010 can do, it appears crippled.

I also agree with the OP that upgrading to each version each time is unnecessary. 2003 to 2007 or 2010 makes sense. Skipping 2013 isn't a bad idea. But get off 2003!


RE: Microsoft's business model
By Belard on 6/29/2012 11:16:49 AM , Rating: 2
Office 2010 is quite nice, I sell it, etc... and its fairly cheap (thanks to open/Libreoffice) nowadays at $120~250. The non-Outlook version would work fine for me.

But... I still use Office2003 personally because it simply does everything I need. The $120 is better spent on other things.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By Chadder007 on 6/29/2012 4:17:54 PM , Rating: 2
2003 forever bro.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By Belard on 6/30/2012 4:19:42 AM , Rating: 2
I think office 2010 is an excellent modern office suite... I will buy it someday, especially if Office 2013 sucks. I'll just get the Home edition for $120.

I like better than O2003 in almost every way.

But for me, right now... I have other things to spend $120 on. Like dating, movie, gas... I only recently went to Office 2003 because many of my clients bought NEW office2010 discs. So I was given legit office2003. :) Otherwise, I was using my very OLD office 2000... which looked dated on Windows7 and XP... but still got the job done.

When preview/beta Office2013 comes out... I'll decide which way to go. Personally, I wish Libreoffice was a bit better. Its on par with office 2000 IMHO. But for the price of $0... its an excellent deal. Looking at Office 2003 and LibreOffice side by side, they book look and function excellent... I don't like the big text box in Libre/Open Office.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By kmmatney on 6/29/2012 12:00:55 PM , Rating: 2
I hated office 2007 at first, but after a few weeks on my everyday work machine, I really started to appreciate the improvements. For me, the biggest improvements are with Outlook - enough to make the upgrade well worth it. If you don't use Outlook, then the upgrade is less beneficial, although I think Powerpoint and excel are a little better as well. I can't say I find Word any better.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By Motoman on 6/30/12, Rating: 0
RE: Microsoft's business model
By mechBgon on 6/30/2012 2:12:04 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
No it's not...there's nothing new in 2007 or 2010 that 99.999% of all users have any possible use for.


If you consider security aspects, it's exactly the opposite. Office 2010 walks all over its predecessors in terms of vulnerabilities and mitigations, which is something almost all users need. And the extended-support phase of Office 2003's lifecycle is winding down, so there will be no security updates for it before long. Think about moving on to a newer version.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By kattanna on 6/29/2012 11:03:02 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Keep buying the same productivity suite from them over, and over and over again.


we moved off of MS office some time back and now predominantly use libreoffice.

there are a few people who do have to have word or excel for some advanced features, but those are literally just a handful.

one really nice feature of using the open/libre office suite is not having to worry about file formats. now when MS chooses to use a new default format like .xlsx we dont have to spend $1000's on new software we dont really need just so they can open outside vendors docs.


By damianrobertjones on 6/29/2012 11:30:04 AM , Rating: 2
" use a new default format like .xlsx we dont have to spend $1000's on new software we dont really need just so they can open outside vendors docs."

We didn't have any issues with this so it's odd that you guys did?


RE: Microsoft's business model
By Apone on 6/29/2012 12:23:58 PM , Rating: 4
Starting with the release of Office 2007, Microsoft also released a free software pack that allows older Office versions like 2003 to support the new .xlsx & .docx, etc. formats. It's your IT department's responsibility to keep up with that type of stuff....

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.as...


RE: Microsoft's business model
By GuinnessKMF on 6/29/2012 11:38:34 AM , Rating: 2
For most people, the productivity gained from using Office makes the cost of the upgrade seem trivial. If you think the cost of the suite is actually an issue, then you're likely not using all the features and it makes sense for you not to upgrade.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By andrewaggb on 6/29/2012 1:03:32 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. If you ms office everyday at work, it's well worth the $150-250 dollars.

And office 2010 is much nicer in my opinion than 2003. I agree with others, you can skip every other release (much like windows), but I haven't seen anything that compares to ms office.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/30/2012 12:00:41 AM , Rating: 2
Office is the most profitable product they sell. To put things in perspective, Microsoft makes more off of Office than they do off of Windows, and Windows itself is an extremely popular product with insanely high profit margins.

Some people may pass on versions, I myself am still on Office 2007 for Windows and Office 2008 for Mac. That said, there are always new customers who inevitably pick up the latest version. The same logic applies to operating systems, there are loads of people who stuck with XP for nearly ten years before upgrading.

Most people and businesses don't buy every single version of software that Microsoft releases, but they don't need to for MS to be highly profitable. It would be foolish for them not to put out a new release every couple years.


RE: Microsoft's business model
By steven975 on 7/2/2012 3:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
Not an Excel user I take it.

Office 2003's 16-bit row address space is a limitation that needs to die...now.


Graph Rendering
By Jedi2155 on 6/29/2012 1:42:06 PM , Rating: 3
One thing I'd really wish they'd improve on is adding a scroll bar when doing graphs. Especially when I'm looking at a lot of data, I wish I could easily zoom in and out on a graph.

Excel 2007/2010 was a HUGE improvement over 2003, which had tons of a file size/memory limitations. Plus you could only 65536 rows a single sheet, which was greatly resolved in 2007/2010 allow up over a million rows (super good improvement). Of course its still super slow in handling all those data points.

My boss helped purchased MATLAB for a tidy sum of $10,000+ to help alleviate some of the data limitation issues in 2003, but it just does not have the overall shine/polish for easy data analysis that Excel offers. I was so happy when we switched to 2010.




RE: Graph Rendering
By Etsp on 6/29/2012 3:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
Have you tried using Powerpivot? Pivot tables and pivot graphs rock, and PowerPivot gives you a lot more power to work with em. It's a free download from Microsoft.


RE: Graph Rendering
By Jedi2155 on 7/23/2012 1:26:39 PM , Rating: 2
PivotTables aren't really useful for the data manipulation/processing/reduction I'm trying to accomplish. While I would love for something as great and simple as PivotTables, it just doesn't seem to match the bill. :(


Nice...
By damianrobertjones on 6/29/2012 11:27:48 AM , Rating: 2
...About time as I can now start training staff :)




If its anything like Metro...
By Belard on 6/29/12, Rating: -1
RE: If its anything like Metro...
By damianrobertjones on 6/29/2012 11:31:15 AM , Rating: 2
What a negative post!

I'm off outside to throw the ball for the dog next door and relax. Maybe do the same


RE: If its anything like Metro...
By Belard on 6/30/2012 4:22:44 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah, you are right.... It really is a wait and see.

With Win8 being so horrible, I don't have much expectations for office2010 which is so kick-ass.


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