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Sony files paperwork with the FCC for an 80GB PS3

With the announcement of Microsoft's 120GB Xbox 360 Elite, the $479 console doubles the storage capacity of Sony's range topping 60GB PlayStation 3. According to paperwork filed with the FCC earlier this month (PDF), Sony will introduce an 80GB PS3 for users looking for a smidge more disk space.

Although the FCC cover letter doesn't go into detail, it's plausible that the 80GB PS3 model would replace the existing $599 60GB PS3. For all the flak that Sony has gotten over pricing with the PS3, it seems unlikely that the company would introduce an even higher priced SKU to differentiate between the 60GB and 80GB models.

The 80GB revelation comes a day after a SCEA’s Peter Dille downplayed the introduction of the Xbox 360 Elite.  “Microsoft is trying to catch up to us at this point. Beyond the benefits of HDMI and a hard drive offered on every PS3 we make, we also provide game developers and consumers the huge capacity of Blu-ray disc, Wi-Fi, free online gameplay, wireless motion sensing controller and the power of Cell,” said Dille. “Our strategy has always been to offer all our consumers a future-proof experience when they first purchase any PS3, rather than continually asking users to upgrade with expensive new add-ons and entire new SKUs.”

Although the 80GB HDD may be a welcome addition for gamers looking to buy a PS3 in the future, Sony has already made provisions within the console to allow users to easily upgrade their drives. Whereas Microsoft forces users to buy a proprietary hard drive to upgrade the storage on their Xbox 360s, Sony allows owners to upgrade their 2.5” HDD at any time without restrictions or any fear of voiding the console’s warranty.

For its part in the recent reveal of the FCC documentation, a Sony spokesperson had this to say, "As mentioned when we made the product announcement for PS3, the system will have different configurations (thus, 60GB HDD with memory card slots and Wi-Fi and 20GB HDD without memory card slots or Wi-Fi both exist). Application to the FCC has been made with various possibilities in mind, however, it does not lead to a new product announcement at this time."



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Sony?
By scrapsma54 on 3/29/2007 2:30:28 PM , Rating: 2
Didn't sony say something about Microsoft trying to catch up to them? Anyway, I think 120GB is more than enough to supply a decent supply of demos and trailers for 360.




RE: Sony?
By Snuffalufagus on 3/29/2007 2:45:29 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, and the funny thing is this doesn't even 'catch Sony up with MS' as far as an off the shelf unit goes, they're short 40 GBs. I think they had to keep it smaller so they didn't have to jack up the already highest console price out there.


RE: Sony?
By Goty on 3/29/2007 3:50:35 PM , Rating: 1
They may be "short" 40GBs, but let's see here:

Microsoft:
120GB HDD add-on - $180
360 Elite - $480 (i.e. an $80 premium on a NEW for nothing more than HDD space)

Sony:
120GB 2.5" HDD from Newegg - $77.99
80GB PS3 - $599 (i.e. absolutely no price premium for added storage)

Well, darn, looks like I can get 240GB of storage space on my PS3 for less than what MS is charging for 120GB if I already have a PS3. Also, if I'm looking to buy a new console, I'm not getting duped into buying a console with no added functionality for a higher price.

Sure, you may say you can store more on that 120GB HDD than the 20GB, but since your games will never utilize the HDD (since programmers must assume that the end user might have a core system), what are you going to put on it? Movies? Trailers? I thought that the 360 was a gaming machine first and foremost? Isn't all of this media player functionality merely an afterthought to the gaming capabilities of the machine?

You might also try and say that HDMI adds functionality to the machine, but... wait..., wasn't it before the release of the Elite that everyone was saying component out was just fine for HD and nobody really needed HDMI?


RE: Sony?
By Scorpion on 3/29/2007 5:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I thought that the 360 was a gaming machine first and foremost? Isn't all of this media player functionality merely an afterthought to the gaming capabilities of the machine?


I'm not sure I understand the source, or point of this statement. I would like to remind you however that the original Xbox modding and homebrew scene is arguably the biggest reason that every one of these "next gen" consoles includes this functionality. So no I would not call it an afterthought. It was a direct influence of the hobbyist market around the original XBox.


RE: Sony?
By jtyson on 3/30/2007 4:18:52 PM , Rating: 2
Wasn't it Microsoft who stated, on SO many occasions, that the Xbox 360 didn't need a bigger hard drive? (...Um, yeah. What's your point?...)

And wasn't it Microsoft that claimed there was no need for an HDMI port to achieve true HD visuals? (...Well, yeah, I guess so...)

And wasn't it Microsoft that opted for the blatantly metrosexual combination of off-white and lime-green for there original console? (...What's wrong with lime-green? I love that color! So does my boyfriend...)

What's the word I'm looking for here?... It's like... y'know, when you criticize your competitors for doing something a certain way, then later on you do the exact same thing you were criticizing your competitors for doing, because you're afraid of your competitor's success?... It's not hypocrisy...
(...OH! You mean BACK-PEDDLING! )

Exactly. So who's really playing catch-up here?


RE: Sony?
By Eurasianman on 3/29/07, Rating: 0
RE: Sony?
By Zandros on 3/29/2007 3:17:15 PM , Rating: 5
So, how does the Wii with DVD playback and the beta of the Opera browser fit with your logic here?


RE: Sony?
By Spivonious on 3/29/2007 3:37:34 PM , Rating: 2
The DVD playback Wii is only confirmed in the Japanese market. The Opera browser was and is a free download. Hence, no "optional" purchases needed for the complete Wii experience. It's complete out of the box.


RE: Sony?
By Zandros on 3/29/2007 4:05:19 PM , Rating: 2
The Opera browser will apparently cost money for everyone who downloads it after June, the Wii will be extended with GameSpy* (doesn't seems to cost anything though), and Nintendo is positive to hardware revisions**.

The fact that the DVD-Wii only will be available in Japan doesn't change anything, except that the rest of the world won't even be able to get a "complete" experience.

Virtual console can't be used without additional accessories as far as I've gathered either. Granted, it is a controller extension, but still.

It seems to me that the Wii certainly isn't complete out of the box. Why else the need to add anything other than games?

* http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6460
** http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6203


RE: Sony?
By giantpandaman2 on 3/30/2007 1:59:19 AM , Rating: 2
I agree with you that a Wii certainly isn't complete, but just to clear up some stuff.

A)Some Virtual Console games can be played with the standard Wiimote. (Any of the NES ones)

B)A $20 Gamecube controller allows you to play GCube, VC, as well as some Wii games. (I really don't understand peoples fascination with the Classic controller. Just buy a damn Wavebird!)

C)Opera will cost money if the downloaded later. But, hey, it's software, what system doesn't make you pay for software?

D)Who cares about DVD on the Wii anyway? Why does anyone ever bring this up?

E)But you do have to buy a stupid-but cheap-gamecube memory card to get anywhere on gamecube games.

To go with your point, though, I don't think the Wii is truly complete until you have at least two wiimotes and two nunchucks. I've spent a decent amount of money extracting the party functionality out of my Wii. But this isn't to say that's it's any worse than other consoles. I still think it comes more "complete" than either the PS3 or the 360. No worries about hard drives; one SD card and you're set. Wireless is more ubiquitous than wired home networks. Non-proprietary bluetooth. Of course, that's easier when you're built to be purely a game system rather than a "convergence" device.


RE: Sony?
By slacker57 on 3/30/2007 1:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
B)A $20 Gamecube controller allows you to play GCube, VC, as well as some Wii games. (I really don't understand peoples fascination with the Classic controller. Just buy a damn Wavebird!)


The fact that you can't reconfigure the buttons is very annoying. Trying to play Super Mario World, for example, is extremely cumbersome because of the placement of the X and Y buttons on a GC controller.

But more to the point, I think the Original Wii Poster (OWP) was saying the Wii was complete at launch not complete out of the box. Even though DVD-capable versions, etc. proves him wrong, having to buy extra controllers and memory cards and downloading software does not.


RE: Sony?
By Zandros on 3/30/2007 2:28:39 PM , Rating: 2
I think the software is important, but I acknowledge that others might think different. For example, I wouldn't consider the PS3 experience complete without the PS Home or whatever it is called, but others might.

In any case, neither the PS3 nor the Xbox360 has had any addons required to play certain games as far as I'm aware. The only consoles which did is the N64 (ram) and the Sega MegaDrive 2 with its optical unit (I think).


RE: Sony?
By cochy on 3/29/2007 3:21:39 PM , Rating: 1
Except when they had to issue a massive recall on just about every controller/whrist band they manufactured.


RE: Sony?
By Spivonious on 3/29/2007 3:35:47 PM , Rating: 2
They never had a recall. If your strap breaks, they send you a new one. For the record, I have four remotes, and have not had a strap break.


RE: Sony?
By cochy on 3/29/2007 3:46:31 PM , Rating: 1
You're right, according to some checking Nintendo denied they ever issued a recall. I just remember walking into Best Buy asking why they didn't have any controllers in stock ever and they told me they had to ship them all back to Nintendo.


RE: Sony?
By BMFPitt on 3/29/2007 4:08:34 PM , Rating: 2
I've seen controllers in stock 3 times since the release of the Wii. That includes 6 weeks of stopping into BB, CC, and Target every day at lunch until I finally got mine. I'm pretty sure current shortages have nothing to do with wrist straps, which shouldn't even be needed if you posses any common sense.


RE: Sony?
By darkpaw on 3/29/2007 3:23:20 PM , Rating: 3
I definately support the Wii, but Nintendo practically invented console/hand held midcycle updates.

Not saying thats a bad thing either. Every update has been significantly better then the original. I actually wish my DS was a Lite instead of the grey brick type.


RE: Sony?
By scrapsma54 on 3/29/2007 4:41:06 PM , Rating: 2
I think it is quite ripe to say that current console devs are having a hard time connecting with the right majority of people, so they have to keep adding more technologies even after presenting a final product.


RE: Sony?
By jconan on 3/31/2007 2:37:23 AM , Rating: 2
same with Apple for iPods?


Yay
By Url on 3/29/2007 2:24:27 PM , Rating: 5
i like the fact that sony keeps on trying to outdo microsoft. its very entertaining....




RE: Yay
By TheDoc9 on 3/29/07, Rating: -1
RE: Yay
By Flunk on 3/29/2007 2:45:01 PM , Rating: 4
Actually he does have a point.

Xbox 360 comes out, Sony Annouces PS3

120GB Xbox is announced, Sony files patent for 80GB PS3.

Sony is trailing MS from a release perspective, each one of their competitive products was released after the MS equivalent.

BTW, love your spelling of MS you hypocritic fanboy.


RE: Yay
By bplewis24 on 3/29/2007 3:30:40 PM , Rating: 3
The beauty of competition is that it forces competitors to try and top the other. For example, Microsoft is now coming out with the Elite unit with HDMI output. As a consumer of both Sony and Microsoft's products, I'd feel cheated if they didn't try and top the other. After all, the consumers (if not the early adopters) eventually become winners because of it.

Brandon


RE: Yay
By Timeless on 3/29/07, Rating: -1
RE: Yay
By deeznuts on 3/29/2007 3:38:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
120GB Xbox is announced, Sony files patent for 80GB PS3.

Actually Sony filed this FCC filing (not patent) on March 2, before the 360 elite was announced or even confirmed. And on that token you can say the Xbox followed the PS3 with bigger HDD and HDMI. So I don't see the point.

Could it be that Sony can get a 60GB 2.5" HDD and a 80GB for almost identical prices, thereby passing along a bigger HDD to consumers for no additional cost? There is no evidence of Sony's plans, so this can be an even higher model or it can take place of the 60GB or it can bump the 60GB down and be $599 as well.


RE: Yay
By ATC on 3/29/2007 7:12:46 PM , Rating: 2
by that token;

MSFT extends 90day warranty to 1 year after Sony
MSFT makes a Black 360 after...
MSFT now touts HDMI after...
MSFT desperately trying to make the 360 quieter after...
MSFT's refusal to include HD-DVD which speaks volume about their confidence in the format or lack there of...
etc..
etc..

Nothing wrong with copying or one-upping each other, competition is good for us consumers - end of story.

Having said that, the Elite's existence and pricing IMO has just made the PS3 a much better buy to many.


RE: Yay
By sxr7171 on 3/29/2007 9:30:53 PM , Rating: 1
You're actually right. Now with $480 + $60 (for Live membership) you're at $540 which is more than the PS3 20GB version and adding the $100 Wi-Fi kit makes it $640 and more than the 60GB PS3. If you have an HDTV, Blu-Ray is actually nice to have.

MS really have their heads up their butts on this one. They could own the console market with a simple price cut to $400 on the Elite.


RE: Yay
By Thmstec on 3/30/2007 1:03:06 AM , Rating: 2
you forgot the 200$ HD-DVD player!

and for all you who wanna stab back at the PS3 saying no included HDMI....I bought my 16gauge 20 foot HDMI cable for 30$.


RE: Yay
By radams on 3/30/2007 10:33:34 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
MSFT's refusal to include HD-DVD which speaks volume about their confidence in the format or lack there of...


It does nothing of the sort. Microsoft didn't include the HD-DVD in their original spec because they wanted to get the 360 out the door and the HD-DVD spec wasn't even finalized at that point. The 9 million consoles they've sold have shown that to be the right choice. They can't include a built-in HD-DVD player as of right now because the current gen players don't read DVD fast enough.


RE: Yay
By dajeepster on 3/29/2007 9:12:54 PM , Rating: 2
this isn't a application for a patent... this was filed with the FCC, not the Patent office. Last I heard, they are two completely different and unrelated organizations.


RE: Yay
By jtyson on 3/30/2007 4:27:47 PM , Rating: 2
Whoa whoa whoa. You are some kind of stupid, my friend. Examine the following...

WHY do you think that Microsoft is releasing an Xbox 360 with a 120GB hard drive? (Durrr, because the PlayStation 3 came with a 60GB hard drive, which was 3x what the Xbox 360 was offering, and people kept pointing this out to Microsoft because Sony was making them look like fools?)

BINGO! Dumbshit...


Why?
By shaw on 3/29/2007 2:34:03 PM , Rating: 3
PS3 should just come with a 20GB HDD. Unlike paranoid Microsoft you can upgrade the damn thing with any SATA HDD so why include a bigger HDD in the first place?

I have a 3.5" 400GB HDD connected into mine via some SATA cables. It was cheaper then Microsoft's dern overpriced 20GB solution!




RE: Why?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/29/2007 2:35:47 PM , Rating: 3
No matter how simple the procedure is, most consumers don't want to open up their console themselves...

How do you think services like Geek Squad and Firedog stay afloat? :-)


RE: Why?
By sxr7171 on 3/29/2007 10:59:21 PM , Rating: 2
Well you can always use any external USB HDD. At least you have that option. It beats a $180 120GB HDD.


RE: Why?
By Zoomer on 4/2/2007 1:08:18 PM , Rating: 2
These "solutions" take up space and are cumbersome. They will never be popular in Japan.

Besides, I won't see them buying HD DVD, since it's (and is seen as) inferior to BluRay.


RE: Why?
By BZDTemp on 3/30/2007 5:33:58 AM , Rating: 2
It's not opening up the console. It's just pulling out the drive and Sony shows how in the manual with drawings and all.


RE: Why?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/30/2007 10:15:51 AM , Rating: 2
It's a pretty simple affair with notebooks as well, but you still have people taking their computer to Best Buy or Circuit City to do something as simple as installing a new stick of memory.


RE: Why?
By Eurasianman on 3/29/2007 2:48:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have a 3.5" 400GB HDD connected into mine via some SATA cables. It was cheaper then Microsoft's dern overpriced 20GB solution!


Was this to your 360 or PS3???


RE: Why?
By shaw on 3/30/2007 12:23:17 AM , Rating: 2
PS3. Hah, I wish I could just hook up a standard hard drive to my 360! That's why I said unlike paranoid Microsoft. Microsoft is super cared because of what happened with XBox so they're making it a pain the ass for the consumer to upgrade to avoid piracy.

Which happened anyhow.


RE: Why?
By JimFear on 3/30/2007 8:08:49 AM , Rating: 2
It'll be his PS3, you can get brackets to extend the SATA port to smiple eSATA port ont he plastic shield where the HDD sits, then you just get an SATA external hard drive case and connect it up. Its good that its open this way because it means less people will try to break the machine or circumvent the security, hackers are trying to break the 360 to put linux on it and put a bigger hard drive but the PS3 openly accepts both of these, that means that for legit uses its open nicely whereas the 360 has to be completely compreomised to do these things, making it more likely to be able to run pirated software etc, Sony made a very smart decision with this.


RE: Why?
By darkpaw on 3/30/2007 1:02:16 PM , Rating: 2
Sony definately took the right route with this for the PS3. I just wish they'd do the same for the PSP instead of trying to completely crush any kind of creative add-ons. Forcing firmware updates on anyone that buys a newer game just to try and prevent downgrading/customization is insane.


RE: Why?
By cochy on 3/29/2007 3:15:26 PM , Rating: 1
Geez what's wrong with a little added value. They are not charhing more for it. Don't expect the thing to cost less if it shipped with a 20GB. Sony loses more money on the 20GB model. HDDs are not at all expensive for companies like Sony or MS.


Hard drives
By thebrown13 on 3/29/2007 2:21:00 PM , Rating: 2
Is the PS3 HD easily portable like the 360s?




RE: Hard drives
By Kilim on 3/29/2007 2:23:44 PM , Rating: 3
No it is not. But it is just as easy to replace as a Computer HDD. It is in a slot in the side of the machine.


RE: Hard drives
By cochy on 3/29/2007 2:27:03 PM , Rating: 3
Why would you need/want a portable hdd for a game console?


RE: Hard drives
By Eurasianman on 3/29/2007 2:51:59 PM , Rating: 2
I believe the point of the portable hard drive is so that if you're friend has a 360, you don't have to unplug your whole unit and take the cables and the unit itself to their place just to show them whatever...

Although, I do admit... I don't think I've really detached the hard drive to do that... normally, when I take my 360, I end up bringing my computer as well... so I figure, wth, if I can carry my computer that's in an P180B case, why not just bring the 360 =P


RE: Hard drives
By cochy on 3/29/2007 2:58:45 PM , Rating: 2
Well if you wanted to show them "whatever", I'm assuming "whatever" isn't a solid 120GB, so why not copy it to external media (usb drive, SD etc.) and bring that. That's what their for and their relatively inexpensive. The PS3s have SD readers.


RE: Hard drives
By thebrown13 on 3/29/2007 3:02:05 PM , Rating: 2
So you can completely replace game cards.


RE: Hard drives
By cochy on 3/29/2007 3:04:21 PM , Rating: 2
Well then I refer you to my post above about using external media such as usb drives or SD cards. Heck my cell phone can be used to replace a game card.


RE: Hard drives
By Malhavoc on 3/29/2007 4:31:36 PM , Rating: 2
Wouldn't that essentially make the portable HDD a game card?


RE: Hard drives
By Malhavoc on 3/29/2007 4:36:50 PM , Rating: 2
Boggle, reply should have been to previous message.


By kattanna on 3/29/2007 2:21:28 PM , Rating: 1
20GB..40GB..60GB..80..120

come on..lets see a 200-400GB drive now why dont we??




By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/29/2007 2:22:34 PM , Rating: 2
How many 200-400GB 2.5" HDDs have you seen on the market? ;-)


By BladeVenom on 3/29/2007 2:25:18 PM , Rating: 2
The Sony console is big enough that they should have used a 3.5" drive. 400GB would have been quite impressive, compared to the other consoles.


By Eurasianman on 3/29/2007 2:49:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The Sony console is big enough that they should have used a 3.5" drive. 400GB would have been quite impressive, compared to the other consoles.


You would have think they would since their PS2 could handle the 3.5" drive...


By Spivonious on 3/29/2007 3:39:34 PM , Rating: 2
But then we couldn't buy the upgrade.


By jtyson on 3/31/2007 10:41:35 AM , Rating: 2
Right you are, my friend! I can't believe all these upgrades they're making to the PlayStation 3! Not like Microsoft, who's courageously standing by their original two versions of the Xbox 360...

Dumbass...


By Spivonious on 4/2/2007 1:12:20 PM , Rating: 2
WTF?

First off, my post didn't take sides. Second, that is the only reason the companies make "upgrades" - to get more money. Sony and Microsoft are guilty of doing it.

You need to adjust your Sony fanboy dial. It's set too high.


By JimFear on 3/30/2007 10:17:54 AM , Rating: 2
Put your pipe down, thats a silly suggestion.

2.5 = less heat, lower power requirements, less space required


Probably a supply decision more than anything.
By OxBow on 3/29/2007 3:10:30 PM , Rating: 3
I'd expect that since the size difference between 60 & 80 is so small, this more has to do with some cost dynamics in their supply chain. It doesn't make sense in terms of advertising or competition, but if they are able to get 80 gig drives at better price point than 60's, then they could save an enormous amount in manufacturing. Since they are trying at this point to shave every fraction of a cent off their production costs right now, I bet someone looked at their supply of HD's and said, hey, we can pick up this lot of 80's for less than our current contract for 60's is.

Then they send a simple letter to the FCC to give them leverage in negotiating a price for cheaper batches of 60s. They went to a bit of work to make swapping the HD quite easy. As such, there doesn't seem much of a need for them to sell a new version.




By allnighter on 3/29/2007 3:24:39 PM , Rating: 2
I believe you nailed this one rigth on.


RE: Probably a supply decision more than anything.
By borowki on 3/29/2007 4:07:44 PM , Rating: 2
Just because they could get 80G hard-drive at a lower price doesn't mean they have to offer 80G worth of space. They could easily have quietly partitioned the drives for 60G only. If I remember correctly, Microsoft has done that with the original Xbox.

Creating a new SKU that's slightly better at the same price is stupid. It immediately gives prospective buyers a reason to defer the purchase. Demand for the PS3 is weak enough as it is.


By sxr7171 on 3/29/2007 9:38:12 PM , Rating: 2
As much as I dislike Sony, I'm glad they aren't thinking like the nickel and diming folks at MS who would rather partition a HDD to give the customer less disk space than just say with a note in the box that you got lucky and have an extra "x" GBs of space courtesy MS. WD did that to me once when I bought an HDD from them.


Sony Responds
By Pyrros on 3/29/2007 3:32:35 PM , Rating: 6
http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/sony-responds-to-ps3-...

"As mentioned when we made the product announcement for PS3, the system will have different configurations (thus, 60GB HDD with memory card slots and Wi-Fi and 20GB HDD without memory card slots or Wi-Fi both exists). Application to the FCC has been made with various possibilities in mind, however, it does not lead to a new product announcement at this time."

Anyway this could be for HDD increases in current models in the future and not a whole new system.




RE: Sony Responds
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 3/29/2007 4:52:22 PM , Rating: 2
Good find - you get a gold star for the day.


How about...
By robber98 on 3/29/2007 2:57:22 PM , Rating: 2
drop the price and let consumer decide what Harddrive they want?




RE: How about...
By cochy on 3/29/2007 3:31:42 PM , Rating: 2
They need a HDD inside the console. It costs them, what $10 to add one? Never the less, much less then what you or I would pay. The larger the HDD they put in, the more added value to the consumer, given the price point stays the same.


Too low GB
By edge929 on 3/29/2007 5:03:01 PM , Rating: 1
80GB? Even 120GB is very low for a supposed "media entertainment centerpiece". If the future of the 360 and PS3 is to be the main component in a modern entertainment center, you'd think they would want to plan for the future and start off at 100-120GB and go up from there.

I realize these are 2.5" HDD we're talking about here but when I can buy a 3.5" 500GB HDD off of Newegg for the same price as 2.5" 120GB drive, this is me looking for an adapter. 2.5" to 3.5" adapters have been in existence for some time and are very cheap.




RE: Too low GB
By bplewis24 on 3/29/2007 9:31:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but when I can buy a 3.5" 500GB HDD off of Newegg for the same price as 2.5" 120GB drive, this is me looking for an adapter. 2.5" to 3.5" adapters have been in existence for some time and are very cheap.


Well, Sony isn't doing anything to prevent you from doing this. All the more reason to be thankful the HDD isn't proprietary and is user-upgradeable.

Brandon


Why won't anyone take note?
By spartan014 on 3/30/2007 7:39:05 AM , Rating: 2
1. Xbox 360 Elite is completely new revision of an existing product with added features and increased cost. Officially announced.( Reason for which is anyone's guess..). Existing users have no permission to add their own HDDs. Has to buy it from Microsoft itself.

2. PS3 to get an increase of 20 GB in HDD space. No price change. Common sense says it has to be for some benefit in manufacturing cost cut. Seriously, how can you say that an 80 GB HDD is meant to distract customers from a 120 GB HDD model of their competitor? And with PS3 you can add your own HDD anytime for much lower cost.

Read it carefully and think, PLEASE THINK before flaming each other. Seriuosly.......




By TemjinGold on 3/30/2007 10:28:40 AM , Rating: 2
I don't see this as Sony offering the customer an additional 20gb (though I won't dispute that it's a nice gesture since it's no extra charge). I see this as Sony needing a way to drop the price of their $599 console without losing face. If what you guys say is true and the 80gb costs them the same as the 60, this addition effectively kills two birds with one stone.




80GB costs less than 60GB
By rykerabel on 3/30/2007 12:57:08 PM , Rating: 2
Um, this has nothing to do with anything other than trying to cut production costs. Simply due to HDD production scale, 80GB drives are cheaper than 60GB drives.

Additionally, PS3 allows you to upgrade your drive yourself to a 2.5" drive of your choice.

Regardless, i'm all for Sony and MS and Nintendo fighting... will bring more options, better games, and cheaper prices for all 3 systems.




Application
By rdeegvainl on 3/29/2007 3:44:55 PM , Rating: 1
I think I want to become Sony's next PR executive. Here is my application.
"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.
Walt Whitman
Microsoft is increasing the size of their Xbox 360 HDD for the Elite and is offering the larger HDD as an accessory to those interested who currently have an Xbox 360.
We are changing our PS3 to have an 80 GB hdd instead of the current 60gb in the premium PS3. No price increase involved. That is all for now."
What do you think? of course i would get someone to proof read and all that.




60GB to 80GB is far from enough.
By Roy2001 on 3/29/2007 8:14:17 PM , Rating: 1
60GB to 80GB is far from enough.




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