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Out with Windows 7, in with webOS?

It was just a few weeks ago that a report suggested that HP was ditching its Slate tablet due to power issues with Intel's Atom processor and a Windows 7 operating system which isn't exactly a master at touch operations. Now, a new report suggests that a webOS-based tablet from HP could arrive by year's end.

Engadget reports that the HP tablet is being developed under the codename "Hurricane" and will arrive in the third quarter. Engadget also notes that it has heard "strong whispers" that this account is accurate and that a Q3 launch would position HP strongly for the Christmas shopping season.

If correct, it appears that all of the stars may be aligning for what could be a worthy competitor to the iPhone OS-based Apple iPad. Most critics have raved about Palm's webOS, and it would be interesting to see how the operating system GUI scales to a larger device.

An early hands-on review of the original Windows 7-based Slate called it "slow and annoying" and even more telling, the reviewers came to this conclusion: "Oh .. and the official verdict? 'meh'."





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Is anyone surprised?
By ImSpartacus on 5/10/2010 8:21:47 AM , Rating: 5
HP buys Palm.

HP cancels Win7 tablet.

HP announces WebOS tablet.

HP is just using its acquisition of Palm. Did anybody actually expect them to release a Win7 tablet after buying a world-class ARM OS?

Bravo HP, I'm stoked.




RE: Is anyone surprised?
By Camikazi on 5/10/2010 8:38:28 AM , Rating: 2
If they can keep this at a good price with good features then it might be the tablet I get, I love the Palm WebOS.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By xSauronx on 5/10/2010 9:08:56 AM , Rating: 2
im not remotely interested in a tablet...but ive been wanting a Pre since it came out. I likely wont get a nice smartphone anytime soon but Id love to see something that could give webOS a kick start that may lead to it running a strong smartphone contender in the future


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By retrospooty on 5/10/2010 10:07:55 AM , Rating: 3
ME too. The more I use ti, and the more friends iphones and Droids I see, the more I come to the conclusion that the web OS is easily the best in the business. I cant believe Palm did it... Its really good.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By mcnabney on 5/19/2010 9:28:04 AM , Rating: 2
If it is so good, why can't they sell them. Verizon is practically GIVING them away (they were down to $30 for awhile) and customers were still paying $150-200 for an Android device.

Maybe it is the form factor
Maybe it is the creepy ads
Maybe it is the microscopic app store
Maybe it is the VERY high defect rate

Or maybe it is just too hard to use...


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By Chadder007 on 5/10/2010 3:15:08 PM , Rating: 2
I love the WEBOS too, just haven't been too liking of the Hardware.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By PerfectAgent007 on 5/10/2010 8:38:44 AM , Rating: 1
Same here. Regardless of how well the iPad is doing, Apple needs some competition.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By Bateluer on 5/10/2010 8:45:18 AM , Rating: 2
I think this is probably what 99% of people were expecting HP to announce after they bought Palm, some sort of WebOS based tablet.

With the Atom/Win7 tablet, I didn't even remotely care, but an ARM based WebOS device? Definitely curious to see more.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By retrospooty on 5/10/2010 10:09:13 AM , Rating: 3
I just hope they release some really good phones.

Web OS + better class of hardware than Palm's Pre and Pixi = mobile happiness.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By T2k on 5/10/2010 12:02:36 PM , Rating: 2
I fully agree.
I really like my Android phone but it was mostly the result of lackluster hardware on WebOS - if there were better WebOS phones I'd have gone WebOS in a blink of an eye.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By retrospooty on 5/10/2010 1:06:37 PM , Rating: 2
I thought that too. I would really love to see the Verizon Droid (not incredible, not Eris, I think its just"droid") with Web OS.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By JimTheOwl on 5/10/2010 12:48:12 PM , Rating: 1
I'm not, but I am boycotting any HP device from now on due to the horrible way they treat thier employees. I have several friends who recently went to work for them at a new plant in the South and they were all let go within weeks of leaving a steady job to go to work for HP, only to be told they were not "upholding the standards set by HP".

What? If HP did not like these people, why did they hire them? And, what are these people going to do now in a market in the South that is already in major trouble?

Also, I could really care less about what HP markets anymore. After owning 3 HP machines that all were serious crap and having to have them repaired over 10 times and then finally replaced, and then the replacements failing, I decided I would never purchase another HP device as long as I live.

See Ya, HP!


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By troysavary on 5/10/2010 2:21:34 PM , Rating: 3
If they were not meeting their goals, then HP had every right to dismiss them. A job is not an entitlement. It is not always obvious during the interview how an employee will perform. People can lie on interviews. They only weed out the obvious mismatches. That is why almost all companies have a probationary period.

I have 2 HP computers that have given me, so far, years of flawless use. I had always been a build it myself guy and always swore I'd never get a big box PC, but I saw some prices I couldn't pass up when Staples was offering large rebates. All I needed to do was get rid of some of the bloatware trials, and add a video card to replace the crappy on board graphics, and I was good to go.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By Mojo the Monkey on 5/10/2010 4:43:09 PM , Rating: 2
What, would you have a viable company "go Greece" and keep everyone employed? All while tossing in some extra paychecks for the 14 month year?

hehehe.


RE: Is anyone surprised?
By The0ne on 5/10/2010 1:38:35 PM , Rating: 2
It's a time crunch to get the new slate out to consumers. I hope they don't sacrifice quality for market time.


non-productivity devices
By DrApop on 5/10/2010 1:49:01 PM , Rating: 2
I see tablets as non-productivity devices. They are "on the go" type devices.

Check your email (but not really respond unless it is short like a text msg). Surf the internet. Get directions (maps). check the weather. Maybe transfer pictures and other things to the cloud for later us. Watch TV or a movie. Listen to online radio. Read a book (although backlighting can cause eye strain). or even perhaps do an online video conference. and shop. Play simple games

But you likely will NOT write your report of work or school on the device. Manage that big database or speadsheet. Edit that movie or images. Prepare that powerpoint/slide presentation.

I see it ultimately as a netbook replacement....I really don't do a lot of "productivity" on my netbook.




RE: non-productivity devices
By bigdawg1988 on 5/10/2010 11:10:18 PM , Rating: 2
If it's light enough and works well I could see this being a good thing, but getting HP to develop this thing in a few months? Yikes!
I'm typing on my 3yr old burning hot (the "wrist pad") dv9000 right now. I like it, but there are some things about it they could have done a lot better. Considering how long they've been making laptops this thing shouldn't have had as many problems as it has. I wonder how the hardware drivers will be? Does the webOS require drivers for the hardware (I'm sure it does)? If so, I wouldn't touch the things for at least a year. Took forever to get Nvidia to get the video drivers together. I just don't see HP getting all the hardware and drivers working together. Heck, they just cancelled the Win7 version. Do they have enough time to develop this (properly!)?


By snakeInTheGrass on 5/12/2010 10:12:00 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure I'd want to write a report on one, but I have to say I've found the iPad to be productive depending on the software. I've put together some diagrams (OmniGraffle - expensive in the App Store where most other stuff is throw-away priced) while sitting at the kids baseball practice and lying on the sofa. It's not 100% of sitting at a desktop, but compared to trying to sit somewhere without a desk using a laptop, it's really pretty nice. And I know next time I'm on a flight I can actually use it without having a keyboard too close to me for my hands to reach or worrying about the screen getting crushed. OK, clearly I should fly 1st class instead... ;) I still need to bring the laptop - at least on a trip (doing 3D models, photoshop, compiling stuff, etc.) - but for most uses I'm pleasantly surprised with how nice it is to use so far. Much more functional than the smaller smartphones and old Windows slates for me so far.

I'm definitely curious to see whether HP can pull off a nice tablet as well - I think buying Palm and ditching the Windows slate was bold but the only realistic option to get something competitive out there, and given that they have the money to back it up, it has the potential to be a real contender.


So...
By RjBass on 5/10/2010 9:06:05 AM , Rating: 2
With all the big players working on and developing better, more useful mobile OS's, how long will it be before a tablet appears running Microsoft upcoming Windows Mobile 7? I totally see why HP went this route after buying Palm, I am just really curious to see how all the big players look in the market a year from now.




HP WebOS tablet.
By fteoath64 on 5/12/2010 6:49:22 AM , Rating: 2
Just ditch the ATOM Cpu board and use the SnapDragon part @1.2Ghz then make its software very server friendly via Wifi/n. Have a fixed ethernet port, 2 USBs , 2MP facing cam, SDHC slots , BT 2 EDR and GPS chip in there.

If they can put a very slim (like Apple Alum keyboard type) slideout keyboard with a swing handle that doubles as a stand, it would be way convenient to use. And to carry around. How that ?.




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