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That would be unfortunate
By Dug on 8/18/2014 9:20:28 AM , Rating: 3
I would be surprised if they didn't up the memory.
Although there are few cases where it matters, such as a lot of web browsing.
Samsung will have a heyday with that one.
Trying to save a few cents will really bite them in the arse.




RE: That would be unfortunate
By FITCamaro on 8/18/2014 9:24:58 AM , Rating: 4
Sell it with 1GB RAM first, then next year they'll offer the "higher performance" iPhone 6S with 2GB RAM.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By Owls on 8/18/2014 9:26:55 AM , Rating: 2
Why would they up the RAM? They need to sell you the iPhone 6S in 6 months with a revolutionary amount of 2GB!


RE: That would be unfortunate
By GotThumbs on 8/18/2014 9:53:43 AM , Rating: 3
Yep.

Just look at Apples history of incremental hardware updates/upgrades and releases.

Apple milks their fans wallets at every opportunity IMO.

Billions of cash in the bank is the result of that practice. Can't deny this fact.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By Gio6518 on 8/18/2014 10:54:34 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Just look at Apples history of incremental hardware updates/upgrades and releases.


How else do you think they make insane amount of profits, in the Android world their hardware is 1-3 years behind (depending on components like LTE 1 year after Android etc. etc. etc.) but all the crApple iDiots are mesmerized by the shiny package...Apple fans should come with a warning....

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5533093/il_570xN...


RE: That would be unfortunate
By cknobman on 8/18/2014 9:30:00 AM , Rating: 2
If an mobile OS needs more than 1GB of ram for web browsing something is seriously wrong.

Web browsing is not a high memory activity unless you have dozens of tabs open on highly inefficiently coded websites.

In fact I dont see why 1GB of RAM couldnt continue to be plenty for a mobile OS as long is it is efficient.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By danbob999 on 8/18/2014 9:50:32 AM , Rating: 2
Unless you code all websites you visit yourself, you WILL encounter badly written web sites, like it or not.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By FITCamaro on 8/18/2014 9:56:26 AM , Rating: 2
Except that on any modern OS, the web browser is not the only thing the system is running at a given time.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By CaedenV on 8/18/2014 10:01:13 AM , Rating: 2
not sure what you do on your phone, but my phone is a productivity device. Web browsing, office documents, email, the occasional game... but lots of stuff open makes it where apps get toombstoned all the time. 1GB of ram (or even 512MB) is fine for entry level devices.. but once you get into the mid to high end range of devices we really need to see 2GB as standard and even more is preferred.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By quiksilvr on 8/18/2014 10:04:52 AM , Rating: 2
But its 1GB for the entire operating system, not just a web browser. I agree that having 4GB of RAM is ridiculous overkill and is just bragging rights in the spec war, but limiting modern apps and games to just 1GB of RAM in this day and age is nonsensical. How much more expensive is it really to future proof this device even a little bit?


RE: That would be unfortunate
By retrospooty on 8/18/2014 10:08:38 AM , Rating: 2
In its defense, if you have an iPhone, you probably don't do alot with it, and if you do, certainly not alot at the same time... So a limited amount of RAM isnt that bad.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By Reclaimer77 on 8/18/2014 10:13:26 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
I agree that having 4GB of RAM is ridiculous overkill and is just bragging rights in the spec war


The Galaxy Note allows for the simultaneous running of multiple apps in a side by side view, as well as background apps and tasks.

I don't agree that this is overkill. 4G of RAM will increase performance and stability.

quote:
How much more expensive is it really to future proof this device even a little bit?


Apple doesn't WANT to future proof devices. They make disposable phones and keep people waiting for the next gimmick. Today it's bigger screens. Next year it's probably more RAM.

They have a talent for making a phone that's years behind the competition, seem light-years ahead to their brain dead camped-on-sidewalk-for-two-days for jokephone minions.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By quiksilvr on 8/18/2014 10:56:50 AM , Rating: 2
Simultaneously running apps side by side is not a memory intensive operation. The Galaxy S5 "only" has 2GB of RAM and can do this. Right now on my full OS I am running two different browsers with multiple tabs open in each. Combined they are taking about 300MB of RAM, with one of them streaming HD video.

I thought that with these new phones, new OS (widgets finally), and actual screen size options they would be changing their tune. Then again, if the iPad can run as well as it does with 1GB of RAM with its super high resolution screen and GPU, perhaps it can do the same here.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By Jim_Liquor on 8/18/2014 11:02:30 AM , Rating: 1
iEverything runs like crap. I watch friends and clients with them daily... the stutters in the scrolling, the constant physical damage with even the most delicate of drops...

Defending Apple at this point is useless if you have a functioning brain. Apple makes crap for hipsters and those who don't know any better. Period. OHHHH LOOK ITS PRETTY!!!!! AND MY FRIEND HAS ONE!!!!


RE: That would be unfortunate
By retrospooty on 8/18/2014 11:26:57 AM , Rating: 3
"iEverything runs like crap. I watch friends and clients with them daily... the stutters in the scrolling, the constant physical damage with even the most delicate of drops..."

I have to agree there. I have an iPad 4 from my work, and it has basically zero on it, totally stock and the latest 7.1.2 update. It is noticeably slower than my G3 , and my old G2. It lags a bit when scrolling web pages, lags during screen transitions, even after a fresh reboot. Did a search and there are people having this issue all over the place on all makes and models of iDevices.

"Polished" my arse.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By Reclaimer77 on 8/18/2014 11:20:20 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry but I just don't see the downside to having ample RAM in a phone. If you think that's "overkill" fine, but tell me, where's the drawback exactly?

quote:
Then again, if the iPad can run as well as it does


Right here is your problem. The iPad doesn't run well! I see apps crash all the time and the OS go totally unresponsive. Multitasking on iOS still sucks too.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By Reclaimer77 on 8/18/2014 10:08:32 AM , Rating: 1
I've seen Safari crash lots of times on the iPad. Have a few tabs open, go to answer a Skype call, BOOM app crash.

iOS appears to have nothing like virtual memory, made worst by the fact that it's coupled to devices with stupidly small amounts of RAM.

iOS is plagued by constant application crashes for RAM related reasons. People just put up with it because...because it's Apple I guess.

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ios/crittericism-andr...


RE: That would be unfortunate
By danbob999 on 8/18/2014 10:10:55 AM , Rating: 2
There would be nothing wrong with a 1GB phone. As long as you sell it for no more than $200 outright.


RE: That would be unfortunate
By tayb on 8/18/2014 10:45:20 AM , Rating: 2
I would be surprised as well. Memory is so cheap I would be shocked if Apple didn't upgrade to 2GB.

You can't sell a $700 phone in 2014 with 1GB of memory. It's just ludicrous.


So then wy?...
By CaedenV on 8/18/2014 9:54:35 AM , Rating: 2
Why the push for a 64bit OS on apple devices if they are just going to stick with 1GB of ram? I mean, better to transition to 64bit sooner than later (looking at you Windows Phone which is slated to be released for tablets soonish), but if they were not planning to up the memory past 1GB any time soon then I am failing to see much point to it.

Can't wait until we can get something like hyper memory cube in production so that we could do away with RAM entirely.




RE: So then wy?...
By Reclaimer77 on 8/18/2014 10:00:52 AM , Rating: 2
Because they have to keep coming up with gimmicks to sell people the same exact phone year after year.

I'll never forget the time they released the same phone, again, but ohhh wait, you get Siri with this one folks!!!

Siri is an app! They seriously convinced people to upgrade to the new-old phone for an app!


RE: So then wy?...
By hughlle on 8/18/2014 10:24:59 AM , Rating: 2
And samsung also tried to sell their latest greatest with an app, magical eye scrolling ;)samsung is just as bad as apple these days.


RE: So then wy?...
By gamerk2 on 8/18/2014 11:02:02 AM , Rating: 2
Who uses the default Samsung apps?


RE: So then wy?...
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/18/2014 10:01:15 AM , Rating: 2
I'm just failing to see the point in Apple at this point...


RE: So then wy?...
By xenol on 8/18/2014 10:06:08 AM , Rating: 2
Because of the ARMv8 Architecture its based on that provides more performance improvement features is 64-bit.

I don't think it had anything to do with memory. Remember with Athlon 64's came out? Nobody except servers and HPCs really needed more than 4GB of RAM and everyone kept trucking along with 32-bit OSes well after its debut.


Heh
By Jim_Liquor on 8/18/2014 10:51:53 AM , Rating: 2
Said it before, will say it again ... anyone rock stupid enough to still use iAnything deserves what they get ... at, of course, a premium price.




RE: Heh
By retrospooty on 8/18/2014 11:22:42 AM , Rating: 2
LOL. Fiscal and Technical Darwinism at work.


1GB RAM is ridiculous
By danbob999 on 8/18/2014 9:49:37 AM , Rating: 2
Even the Galaxy S3 (LTE version) had 2 GB.
This is the single most limiting factor in the past two iPhones.




Sammy
By vision33r on 8/18/2014 10:33:45 AM , Rating: 2
That's why Samsung is losing money, they have a saturated market and upping the specs cost them money and lower profit margin while it has not pushed sales growth much because the market is so saturated.




Planned obsolescence
By WldAntc on 8/18/2014 9:29:49 AM , Rating: 1
Noooo... say it aint so! Not Apple...

Apple is all about protecting the consumer... from virus, pron... unauthorized cables!

They build devices with space age white plastics that take years to perfect, so their product will last forever... and never shatter!

I can't think of any reason they'd try to make you want an upgrade in 6 months... and necessitate an upgrade in 12...




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