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13" MacBook casing  (Source: MacX.cn)

15" MacBook Pro casing  (Source: MacX.cn)

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Apple is moving ahead with NVIDIA chipsets for its new MacBooks

There have been a number of rumors swirling around Apple's upcoming notebook refresh scheduled for October 14. The most recent rumor was that the cases for the MacBook and MacBook Pro notebooks would be carved from a single brick of aluminum.

This weekend, however, a fresh round of new information on the new notebooks has leaked onto the web in the form of new pictures from MacX.cn. The site has captured high-quality images of both the 13" MacBook and the 15" MacBook Pro. Both notebooks feature an aluminum body and will have a keyboard reminiscent of the MacBook Air. The notebooks also incorporate a large multi-touch trackpad up front along with a latchless lid.

The latest pictures also show that both the MacBook and MacBook Pro will feature relatively thin profiles and a slot-loading optical drive on the right hand side of the machine.

Perhaps the most interesting new bit of information regarding the new notebooks is the use of the NVIDIA MCP79 platform instead of an Intel chipset. Reports of Apple's switch to NVIDIA chipsets was first rumored back in late July, and those whispers are now turning into rather loud screaming.

PC Perspective's Ryan Shrout says that while the new MacBooks and MacBook Pros will continue to use Intel processors, they will incorporate the MCP79 chipset. The move will benefit Apple in quite a few ways:

  • MCP79 is a single-chip solution instead of the usual Northbridge/Southbridge pairing with Intel's notebook chipsets. The use of a single-chip solution allows for Apple to use less PCB real estate.
  • MCP79 incorporates a GeForce 9300/9400-class integrated GPU which should totally surpass both of Intel's current IGP solutions for notebooks (3100, 4500-series graphics) in performance.
  • HybridSLI technology will allow users to switch between integrated GeForce 9300/9400 for better battery life and a discrete GeForce 9600 for better performance on the MacBook Pro models.   

Other features supported by the chipset include a 1066MHz FSB, support for DDR2/DDR3 memory, PCI Express 2.0, and HDMI output.

This latest round of news from the Apple camp has already sent current Mac users into a frenzy on sites like Apple Insider and Mac Rumors. Most welcome the switch to NVIDIA's chipsets for the performance benefits, but many others have expressed reservations due to the recent news of problem-plagued NVDIA mobile GPUs.



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Finally Apple do something logical.
By WikiChici on 10/12/2008 6:26:40 PM , Rating: 2
Instead of using budget Intel chipsets.




RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By hadifa on 10/12/2008 7:00:17 PM , Rating: 4
Using Nvidia's chip is a good move as far as video performance is concerned.

Intel's onboard graphic has horrible performance and I'm not even talking about 3D games. It can't cope with some videos and even lags in some old 2D games. I have never dared to run a 3D game on it no matter how old the game is.

Hope this encourages Intel to improve the performance of it's chipset.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By StevoLincolnite on 10/12/2008 11:47:10 PM , Rating: 2
I think you are stretching the low-performance numbers a little bit.

I have the Intel x3100 IGP in my notebook, although not near as powerful as my crossfire 4850 desktop, it still manages some games fine like, FarCry, OldOblivion, Need for Speed: Most wanted, Fable, Call of Duty 4, Fear, Halo 2, Spore, Freelancer, Homeworld 2, WarCraft 3, Half Life 2, Doom 3.

I did manage to get Crysis to run, and have done some config tweaking in order to improve performance, but it's slow going.

With MPEG-2 Hardware Acceleration and VC-1 Hardware Acceleration - my DVD and downloaded video content runs flawlessly even h.264 runs without a hick-up.

Yes they are *bad* in comparison to what else is available, but half that problem is the driver team which seemed like it took 12 months just to enable Hardware TnL.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By headbox on 10/12/2008 11:55:22 PM , Rating: 5
I think YOU are the one stretching it. 3100 playing Doom 3, COD 4, and HL2?

Yeah right.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Samus on 10/13/2008 12:19:55 AM , Rating: 2
Don't forget Crysis. Crysis ROCKS his X3100. 60FPS native res! You don't have to believe him because he knows its true so we're just a bunch of know-nothing tree humpers.


By StevoLincolnite on 10/13/2008 2:34:38 AM , Rating: 2
I never said I got crysis running smooth at native resolution at 60fps, It is still not smooth enough for my liking even with everything on lowest, however my goal is not to win the graphics and performance contest running Crysis on an x3100, Crysis is perfectly playable at around 20-25fps however, then again smooth "playability" - is really personal taste.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By StevoLincolnite on 10/13/2008 2:31:46 AM , Rating: 3
Half Life 2: - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGok2zdMXA

CoD4 - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qqDqf9RIA94 - I have it running better than that thanks to updated drivers, and config tweaks.

Doom 3 is a strange one, runs better with all settings on max than it dies on lowest.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1sKJVk3-Urg - however, if you tweak doom enough you can get it to run on a 12mb Voodoo 2.
http://www.firingsquad.com/media/gallery_index.asp...


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Ticholo on 10/13/2008 5:16:54 PM , Rating: 2
Doom3 on a Voodoo2 is priceless!
And it doesn't look half-bad, either.


By Clauzii on 10/14/2008 2:08:23 PM , Rating: 2
Even the FPS looks ok :O

Yes, Voodoo2 was IT back then. Shame 3dfx had to go :(


By killerroach on 10/13/2008 8:31:12 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
3100 playing Doom 3, COD 4, and HL2? Yeah right.


I know a 3100 isn't much, but Doom 3 and HL2 run pretty well on a Radeon 9500 Pro. If it can be run on a mid-range card from six years ago without much hassle, I think even a 3100 can do it. :)


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By on 10/13/2008 7:06:29 PM , Rating: 2
l0l0l0l0l dudez0rz my x3100 r0x0rz Ur s0kx0rz


By gescom on 10/13/2008 11:12:13 AM , Rating: 2
review is here
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4...

"If you're going to game even casually on your laptop, unfortunately, I don't think the X3100 can be settled for."

well, see it for yourself.


By omnicronx on 10/14/2008 9:44:10 AM , Rating: 2
In then end does it really matter? As long as the video card has hardware decoding for mpeg2 vc1 and h264, then chances are it is more than enough for a Mac user. You are not going to see gamers suddenly switch to Mac's because of a better laptop video card.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/12/2008 7:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
My question is how will they be able to move the price of the 13" MacBook downward -- as it is rumored -- with an NVIDIA chipset, multi-touch, and an aluminum casing.

It seems as though Apple would have received much better pricing from Intel as far as processors/chipsets go versus using an Intel processor and an NVIDIA chipset.

Or maybe Apple is just willing to make do with slimmer margins. Meh, I guess we'll find out on Tuesday.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By mmntech on 10/12/2008 7:41:57 PM , Rating: 2
The last iBook featured a discrete Radeon 9550 GPU and sold for $999. Then the Macbook came out with the Intel garbage integrated GPUs and they raised the price by $100. So yes, Apple can do a price cut if they're willing to with the nVidia GPU. The base model vanilla Macbook really should be no more than $1000, even for an Apple product.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By quiksilvr on 10/12/2008 8:34:41 PM , Rating: 5
If Apple plans to be competitive in the PC market, they have to do the standard things that the big boys are doing too:

1) Finally offer LED back lighting on their 13" models. Seriously, EVERY company has been doing this for months now.

2) 2 GB of RAM standard on their base model. I don't care what people say; you NEED 2 GB of RAM, EVEN for Leopard to ensure that it runs smoothly with all the bells and whistles animations.

3) DVD burning drive standard. No more of this CD burning Combo drive nonsense. Its 2008, DVD burning is standard.

4) A fingerprint reader. It may seem minute, but I'm surprised that they haven't done this.

5) This one I don't see happening but really REALLY wish that they do. A REALISTIC AND REASONABLY PRICED WARRANTY. Seriously, where is the Accidental Damage coverage? HP offers 1 year coverage for just $110, and you can just pay more if you want to keep it.

6) Another one I don't see happening. One base model and just customize from there. I don't want to spend 200 bucks for the higher end model when all I want is DVD burning. Have ONE base model and let us customize from there. Don't force us to pay the extra cash when all we want is one upgrade and not three.


By quiksilvr on 10/12/2008 8:36:09 PM , Rating: 3
Correction to 5; I meant to say you pay more for extra YEARS of coverage.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Doormat on 10/12/2008 9:07:55 PM , Rating: 2
I don't disagree with any of your points, and I'm a Mac fan.

I still think its wishful thinking though, just because I dont think Apple wants to slash margins that much, and they do know how to squeeze the extra buck out of the customer.

I did look at the Best Buy ad that came out today, and what $799 and $999 buys in terms of laptops. DVD burning should be standard (even though I rarely use my optical drive on my MB - only to upgrade the OS and install MS Office).

Applecare is kind of expensive, but the service is excellent. I make a reservation online, then I walk in and have it fixed. I had a HDD die on me in May, I made the reservation for 9PM at 5 in the afternoon. I dropped it off at 9PM at night, they called me by noon the next day to come and pick it up. Then even replaced my bottom lid (where the keyboard is) because it was starting to crack on the edges).

Thats one of my worries - as Apple's market share starts to grow, the Genius Bar gets overcrowded with customers. Though if Apple can make their devices more reliable, maybe less visits to the genius bar for everyone balances out growth...


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By quiksilvr on 10/13/2008 2:40:14 AM , Rating: 2
But there is no Accidental Damage coverage. If you drop it, if you spill anything on it, you're SOL. Why they don't offer Accidental Damage is something I have yet to figure out (unless they do but I never see it offered in the online store).


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By raejae on 10/13/2008 4:16:26 AM , Rating: 2
Why should they? Your insurance company can do the same thing, probably for less than you would pay the manufacturer.


By piroroadkill on 10/13/2008 7:41:18 AM , Rating: 2
Dell notebooks can be purchased with accidental damage coverage, CompleteCare, at a reasonable cost.


By ineedaname on 10/12/2008 10:06:11 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that those additions would be great and should be incorporated into their computers however I disagree that these things would make them competitive with the PC market.

Your thinking is actually opposite. The reason why Apple has been able to stand out now is not by following all the trends of other PC companies. You're trying to get them to emulate other PC companies while other companies are trying to emulate them.

The reason why they make money is not because they make ECONOMICAL reasonably priced computers. They make money because they charge a premium on their brand and design. They purposely offer things like CD burners and no colour options to make you pay extra for the upgrade.

In reality offering the latest and greatest doesn't get you the most money. They make money by giving you cheaper stuff and charging you more like non LED back lit screens. Your mindset is based what you want but that's not what makes money.


By Ticholo on 10/13/2008 5:29:17 PM , Rating: 2
Point 3 is just... WOW!!
DVD burning a "premium feature"... how 2002 of them!


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Clauzii on 10/12/2008 10:56:30 PM , Rating: 2
Looking at the new aluminium shell, it looks like a lot of small fittings etc. are history. Also looking at the underside (3rd picture), mounting holes for screws etc. are also in the same block, possibly making all parts mount in a fewer steps than before.

Being able to make it all in one machine is probably a lot cheaper than going trough different manufacturing steps with different tools.

Apple have promised much lower prices, let's hope they'll keep that on Tuesday.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By raejae on 10/13/2008 4:18:28 AM , Rating: 2
They have?

They mentioned that margins would be cut, but not in one single place did any Apple employee promise a price drop. Even if it was planned, it's ludicrous to announce it ahead of time; why would I buy now when I can buy for $200 cheaper in two weeks?


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Clauzii on 10/15/2008 2:52:52 PM , Rating: 2
Nah, 'somebody' hyped it up to be..


By Clauzii on 10/15/2008 2:55:02 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, 'somebody' WAS indeed DT (and9to5 MAc):

"The new manufacturing process is supposed to make design changes faster and allow Apple to reap cost savings, which will drive the price of the Mac notebooks down."


By danrien on 10/12/2008 8:36:20 PM , Rating: 3
apple and small margins are two words that don't go well together. apple prolly can cut plenty into their margin if it means they expand their user base a bit.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By dcalfine on 10/12/2008 8:36:53 PM , Rating: 2
Apple has a recent history of being able to leverage the chipset manufacturer. While most Macs end up being overpriced by the end of their cycle (because the parts manufacturers lower prices and Apple doesn't) the Mac Pro and the iMac were competitively priced when they came out. Apple has managed to get snuggly enough with Intel to not only get good deals on chip prices but also getting some things exclusively. Apple got the Xeon X5482 and Merom processors at 1066 MHz FSB before anyone else and got their own shrunk Core 2 Duo for the MacBook Air. I really do hope Apple is able to sell a sub-$900 notebook because, damn, their shit is expensive.

I'm looking forward to Tuesday's announcement immensely. I need a new laptop, which makes the situation kind of hairy. It means I can't wait for a review to come out before making a purchase. And while I have faith that Apple won't release a flawed product, the news of nVidia's buggy chipsets makes me a bit worried.


By raejae on 10/13/2008 4:20:08 AM , Rating: 2
Just make sure you get AppleCare on it... based on the rumors, I'd definitely say this is a Rev. A product, with all the accompanying bugs and glitches.


By Doormat on 10/12/2008 8:52:04 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe part of the deal with nvidia is compensation for the borked GPUs - nvidia sells the chip at cost as compensation for Apple having to deal with the defective GPUs that nvidia made.

I'm sure Steve could strong arm them into a deal where they get a great deal on these chips for the next year until Intel comes out with the single chip solution for mobile Nehalem.

Plus this could also serve as a warning to Intel about the abysmal performance of their integrated graphics. Based on the benchmarks I've seen so far, the nvidia integrated GPU is at least twice as fast as the X4500.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By on 10/13/2008 7:09:48 PM , Rating: 2
apple? slimmer margins? HAHAHA


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By DASQ on 10/14/2008 2:18:17 PM , Rating: 2
They cut their academic discount more, by about 50%-66% in most cases.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By jonmcc33 on 10/12/2008 7:39:02 PM , Rating: 2
There's nothing "budget" about Intel's chipsets. If anything they are far more stable. My old Asus A8N32-SLI was nothing but problems for me. You can't even boot into Windows XP without enabling the floppy, even if you don't have a floppy. It's pathetic.

It's another reason to avoid Apple. Thanks!


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By Dark Legion on 10/12/2008 8:05:00 PM , Rating: 2
Well there's your problem, you went for AMD =P


By overzealot on 10/13/2008 5:19:08 AM , Rating: 2
Nvidia chipsets for 775 are just as bad. 2 of my mates bought 650i, and another 2 680i boards (because they thought buying a second card for SLI down the track made them better value than intel chipsets). 3 of the boards died, and one of the guys just got fed up with lackluster performance.
All on p35's now, which are cheaper boards and not a single complaint.
Let's just hope their new mobile chipsets are better than that?


By jonmcc33 on 10/13/2008 8:33:52 PM , Rating: 2
That's when the best thing Intel had to offer was the Prescott Pentium 4. What other option was I supposed to take? AMD ran cooler and performed far better, not to mention the overclocking ceiling that AMD offered at the time.

It was my first nVIDIA chipset and my last. Asus released so many different BIOS versions to fix problems on that motherboard that it's not even funny.


By CyborgTMT on 10/12/2008 11:05:21 PM , Rating: 2
I own 3 of the A8n series boards and never had a problem with one of them. One was water cooled, one passive cooled in a HTPC, and the third in a oil submerged system. So far they have been the most stable boards I've owned in years.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By on 10/12/2008 8:22:06 PM , Rating: 2
Well I predict problems and even less of "It just works". My macbook is great. All intel.


RE: Finally Apple do something logical.
By dcalfine on 10/12/2008 8:44:47 PM , Rating: 3
I hope you're wrong, but there's a part of me that can't help but be scared. Recent news about faulty nvidia chips in some MacBook Pros worries me.


By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/13/2008 10:22:38 AM , Rating: 2
Given the rash of failures from nVidia, and the fact that nVidia has thus far not been granted a license to produce the Quickpath boards for the Nehalem generation of chips I would be worried. This won't go very far if the chipsets can't take newer chips. The last thing Apple needs is to be a generation behind in the CPU architecture because of their chipset vendor. Seems like a premature and possibly suicidal move on Apple's part.


boats not PCs
By lufoxe on 10/12/2008 5:51:05 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
MCP79 is a single-ship solution


Might want to change it to chip since nvidia is a PC company




RE: boats not PCs
By Clauzii on 10/12/2008 11:03:25 PM , Rating: 5
Yes, let's not hope they were thinking 'sinking ship' :)


RE: boats not PCs
By wonderhat7 on 10/12/2008 11:11:18 PM , Rating: 2
If I hadn't commented already, I would vote your comment up. :)


The 15" doesn't have a full sized keyboard?
By 9nails on 10/12/2008 6:27:14 PM , Rating: 2
What's with the cramped keys on the 15"? They could easily make more room to type on the silly thing, but instead they kept the same cramped key layout from the 13" and put it on the 15"? What were they thinking?




By PlasmaBomb on 10/12/2008 7:08:04 PM , Rating: 3
They need to save money for Mr Jobs' medication don't ya know...


RE: The 15" doesn't have a full sized keyboard?
By dcalfine on 10/12/2008 10:53:33 PM , Rating: 2
Apple introduced the sunken keyboard design with the original MacBook back in 2006. Most people actually prefer it to a scalloped-key design and so Apple has incorporated the new design on the MacBook Air, their desktop keyboards and now the MacBook Pros. Although the keys themselves are smaller, the length from the left of the Q key to the right of the P key is identical to any other keyboard. The keys are slightly spaced to help minimize typographical errors. The keyboard design is so popular that Apple has licensed it to Sony for use on their SZ series of subnotebook computers.


By zyren on 10/13/2008 11:33:36 AM , Rating: 2
uh, Sony has had that keyboard layout before Apple ever did. I doubt Apple is "licensing" it to them.


By Johnmcl7 on 10/13/2008 1:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
I seriously doubt that given Sony had that keyboard design first on their X505

John


is this seriously an article?
By mfed3 on 10/12/08, Rating: 0
RE: is this seriously an article?
By dcalfine on 10/12/2008 8:55:51 PM , Rating: 1
Jeez, even I'm excited about this, and I just plan to buy it and install Windows. Take a breather, man.


RE: is this seriously an article?
By Titanius on 10/12/08, Rating: -1
RE: is this seriously an article?
By XPguy on 10/12/2008 11:07:01 PM , Rating: 1
this looks uglyer than the voodoo and its not as good cause it runs mac. not as thin also.


RE: is this seriously an article?
By Clauzii on 10/12/08, Rating: 0
RE: is this seriously an article?
By rudolphna on 10/13/2008 1:48:27 AM , Rating: 1
uhhh... OSX isnt that bad. Im not much of a mac person, but I would buy a Macbook with OSX/XP over most anything that comes with windows vista (nothing against vista, just prefer to have XP on my lappy)


RE: is this seriously an article?
By kelmon on 10/13/2008 2:02:00 PM , Rating: 1
Core Graphics and Core Animation both make heavy use of the GPU under OS X in applications that use the libraries. I realise that you are probably referring to a lack of games available for the Mac but not all applications that use the GPU are games. I use Apple's Aperture application for RAW photograph processing and it makes very heavy use of the GPU. OS X itself makes use of the GPU in various places.


RE: is this seriously an article?
By kelmon on 10/13/2008 2:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
Incidentally, why is it that my post got an instant 1 Rating when it was submitted? Bug or is DailyTech's comment system intelligent enough to know that it won't be popular?


RE: is this seriously an article?
By Clauzii on 10/13/2008 3:38:09 PM , Rating: 2
Looks more like someone with an urge for downrating...


RE: is this seriously an article?
By kelmon on 10/14/2008 8:19:24 AM , Rating: 2
Originally I thought this as well but I've seen it happen a few times and I have a hard time believing that someone is really that quick that they can downrate a comment in the time taken to show it on-screen for me after it has been posted.


RE: is this seriously an article?
By Clauzii on 10/14/2008 2:05:06 PM , Rating: 2
I reread Your comment. No f-words, so yes, it IS odd actually. I had a post the other day that did that too.


small error in the article
By LumbergTech on 10/12/2008 6:20:30 PM , Rating: 2
HybridSLI technology will allow users to switch between integrated GeForce 9300/9400 for better performance and a discrete GeForce 9600 for better performance on the MacBook Pro models.ยท




By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/12/2008 6:56:10 PM , Rating: 2
It's been corrected


RE: small error in the article
By kevinkreiser on 10/12/2008 7:32:34 PM , Rating: 2
speaking of hybrid sli... last i heard nvidia was having problems correctly implementing the drivers for it. was that an incorrect rumor, can we expect it to be working in a few days for launch?


RE: small error in the article
By Doormat on 10/12/2008 8:56:27 PM , Rating: 2
I would assume those would be windows drivers. Apple most certainly helped nvidia for the Mac drivers (possibly even a new 10.5.x release). And maybe nvidia just leaves the discrete GPU on all the time in windows until its fixed.


RE: small error in the article
By dcalfine on 10/12/2008 9:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
They were Windows drivers, and while making drivers for Mac OS will mean some rewriting, a lot of the drivers that were having trouble were only running into problems with DirectX. The drivers have more or less been written for OpenGL and they just need to be ported to the Mac operating system.


So...
By benx009 on 10/12/2008 6:15:10 PM , Rating: 2
So are we ever going to see AMD chips coming to Mac, or am I still dreaming here?




RE: So...
By dcalfine on 10/12/2008 8:40:51 PM , Rating: 2
If AMD ever offers a better deal than Intel and nVidia, then absolutely. In fact, when Apple was getting ready to leave PowerPC, AMD was their first choice, but apparently Hector Ruiz wasn't willing to lower prices the way Intel did.


RE: So...
By Clauzii on 10/12/2008 11:10:32 PM , Rating: 2
Which was one of his biggest mistakes. But I also recall him talking about not having capacity to deliver enough chips for Apples needs and that was why Apple turned to Intel.


RE: So...
By wonderhat7 on 10/12/2008 11:16:42 PM , Rating: 2
Right now the closest thing Apple has to an integrated AMD chip is the Radeon HD 2400/2600 in the iMacs. But those are branded as ATI anyway, so who knows.


Bad Apples....
By crystal clear on 10/13/2008 8:55:24 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
but many others have expressed reservations due to the recent news of problem-plagued NVDIA mobile GPUs.


Yes read this from the Aple site-

MacBook Pro: Distorted video or no video issues
Last Modified: October 10, 2008
Article: TS2377

Symptoms
In July 2008, NVIDIA publicly acknowledged a higher than normal failure rate for some of their graphics processors due to a packaging defect.

At that same time, NVIDIA assured Apple that Mac computers with these graphics processors were not affected.

However, after an Apple-led investigation, Apple has determined that some MacBook Pro computers with the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor may be affected.

If the NVIDIA graphics processor in your MacBook Pro has failed, or fails within two years of the original date of purchase, a repair will be done free of charge, even if your MacBook Pro is out of warranty.

What to look for:

Distorted or scrambled video on the computer screen
No video on the computer screen (or external display) even though the computer is on
Specific products affected:

MacBook Pro 15-inch and 17-inch models with NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processors

MacBook Pro (17-Inch, 2.4GHz)
MacBook Pro (15-Inch, 2.4/2.2GHz)
MacBook Pro (Early 2008)
These computers were manufactured between approximately May 2007 and September 2008
Products Affected
MacBook Pro, models with NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processors

Resolution
If your MacBook Pro is exhibiting any of the symptoms listed above, please take it to an Apple Retail Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP) for evaluation, or call your local Apple Contact Center. Before visiting the Genius Bar at the Apple Retail Store, please make a reservation.

Apple is issuing refunds to customers who may have paid for repairs related to this issue. Please contact Apple for details on the refund process.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377




RE: Bad Apples....
By crystal clear on 10/13/2008 9:39:29 AM , Rating: 2
After this report-

I doubt Apple will ever use Nvidia...


RE: Bad Apples....
By SpaceJumper on 10/14/2008 12:05:21 PM , Rating: 2
It looks like NVIDIA took a bite out of the Apple. Microsoft did it first and now NVIDIA. :-)


Hmmm....
By sprockkets on 10/12/2008 5:59:06 PM , Rating: 3
Apple always makes such a big deal about how well the hardware works with OSX. I'm a bit skeptic seeing how many issues the nforce chipsets have even on windows systems.

Don't get me wrong; I've used the original nforce 220, 420, nforce2, nforce4, nforce 6150, nforce 7050 chipsets and all seem to work great, except for the nforce 220 in linux and the lovely nforce4 firewall issues in xp. I rather have an Intel chipset with ATi graphics.




I found some new pictures on some chinese site.
By chiadog on 10/13/2008 6:10:18 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.machome.com.cn/thread-33145-1-1.html

Looks pretty nice. I am not feeling the 2 tone look, so I hope the plain MP has all aluminum option. I keep getting tempted by the Macbook variants. Looks like I may finally take the plunge.




By on 10/13/2008 1:23:05 PM , Rating: 1
ewww i hate two tone. die die die


finally
By kevinkreiser on 10/12/2008 5:19:25 PM , Rating: 2
thank god the new nvidia chipsets are finally seeing the light of day. after the screwed up g45 graphics problem, I'm waiting to get the mcp7a boards. lets hope they show up with or soon after the macbook launch.




I guess...
By SexyK on 10/12/2008 10:47:55 PM , Rating: 2
I guess these photos put an end to all the speculation that the whole machine was going to be cut from one piece of metal?? Not really sure what that rumor was suggesting about the form factor, but I suppose this puts it to bed now either way.




Battery life...?
By rudolphna on 10/13/2008 1:46:21 AM , Rating: 2
Historically, NVIDIA chipsets have a higher power consumption than intel's. Has Nv found a way to reduce power? Will the lack of seperate MCH/ICH chips reduce power consumption? I say this because apple alwasy advertises battery life, and its true, I have seen Macs get excellent battery life. Im wondering how this will impact it.




VIA Nano Coming Next?
By Hlafordlaes on 10/13/2008 12:18:52 PM , Rating: 2
The MCP79 is supposedly the chipset NVidia has promised for VIA Nano support (http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/612). Wonder if this may lead to MacBook versions using a VIA cpu.




Good News For Nvidia
By Haltech on 10/13/2008 7:41:48 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe people will stop saying they'll leave the chipset business




By silentdrowning on 10/16/2008 6:12:51 PM , Rating: 2
I just moved from Austin where I lived in the same complex with several AMD engineers. (on the southside!)

The Fusion chip, integrating ATI tech with their new CPUs on the same die is going to be awesome. Get ready guys, if Apple strikes a deal with AMD and trust me, AMD will agree because they now have outsourced manufacturing to meet demand, then you will see some sweet MB. I don't buy Apple juice but I know other manufactures will have some tasty new AMD Fusion offerings.

BTW USB 3.0 is going to harvest the wood, assemble the coffin, and put the nails in for Firewire's corpse. Excited anyone?

Time to get your inner geek excited.




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