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Android's all-star lineup (some of which is pictured here) has propelled it to top RIM (BlackBerry) and Apple (iPhone) in the smartphone market.
Google posts an amazing 886 percent year-to-year growth in sales

When Google's Android mobile OS launched it was met with skepticism, pessimism, and doubt. Slowly but surely, Google recruited new hardware partners, launched new handsets, eventually reaching sales of 65,000 units a day -- then 100,000.  And Google maintained a relentless pace of OS releases -- with such high profile updates as Android 1.5, 2.02.1, and, most recently, 2.2 (Froyo).

Now market researcher Canalys claims that Google is now the top player in the U.S. smartphone market in terms of market share.  According to Canalys's extensive study, Google owns 34 percent of the market compared to Research in Motion's 32 percent and Apple's 21.7 percent.

Propelled by wildly successful handsets like HTC Hero (October 2009), Motorola Droid (November 2009), HTC Droid Incredible (April 2010), HTC EVO 4G (June 2010), and Motorola Droid X (July 2010), Google has dominated the market with an astounding sales growth of 886 percent.

Perhaps the only analogy to what Google is doing in the history of operating systems is Microsoft's incredible conquest of the personal computer operating system market with Windows.  Much like Windows, Google's multi-hardware OEM, open approach, focused on providing customers with a broad array of choices, is crushing its more specialized competitors, like Apple (which ironically was similarly crushed by Microsoft in the PC OS market).

That's not to say that Apple or RIM are posting financial losses.  In fact, Apple grew 61 percent in sales year-to-year and RIM grew 41 percent.  What is happening, though, is that they appear to be missing the growth opportunity that Android has found with its open, third-party hardware model.

Android's success looks especially scary considering that it appears to just be getting warmed up. Android 3.0 "Gingerbread" should launch this holiday season with some pretty amazing new features. Motorola, HTC, and others are reportedly already cooking up new high end handsets to accompany the OS launch.

In terms of individual hardware OEMs, Nokia still is the dominant party, owning 38 percent of the market. Overall smartphone sales rose 64 percent on a year-to-year basis.



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iTunes
By damianrobertjones on 8/2/2010 5:03:02 PM , Rating: 5
I JUST HOPE that all you Android owners also ditch iTunes.

That bloatware uses SIX (Yes, six) services alone, with MobileMe, Bonjour and tries to get safari onto your machines as well.

Please, get rid of iTunes




RE: iTunes
By Goty on 8/2/2010 5:39:43 PM , Rating: 2
I've been searching for a suitable replacement since I dropped my iphone, but I haven't found anything useful yet. doubleTwist is frankly just annoying to use, Songbird doesn't sync correctly with my phone, Banshee is linux-only, etc.

Do you have an recommendations?


RE: iTunes
By Gio6518 on 8/2/2010 6:06:30 PM , Rating: 2
The best I found so far was double twist. But I uninstalled, I prefer just copy and paste onto the SD card, I also use the d-link DNS321 along with andftp (which is free on Android market) to sync from anywhere.


RE: iTunes
By ajdavis on 8/2/2010 7:18:55 PM , Rating: 2
Media Monkey is a pretty good, if not totally free, alternative.


RE: iTunes
By Falacer on 8/3/2010 12:14:10 PM , Rating: 2
This is what I use.


RE: iTunes
By LRonaldHubbs on 8/2/2010 7:49:18 PM , Rating: 2
You could give Winamp a try. They just added Android syncing support with the latest update. I know CD rip and burn speeds are limited in the free version, and conversion to MP3 is prohibited. Not sure what other limitations apply to the free version as I've been using Pro for years. Pro costs $25 and has free updates until the next major revision (ie, whenever they move from 5.x to 6.x). It supports basically every audio format anyone could want (including ogg and flac) and there are community add-ons available. As for purchasing songs, I think there is an optional eMusic bundle, but I didn't install it. You could always just buy non-DRM files from the likes of Amazon or Wal-Mart and import them.


RE: iTunes
By RjBass on 8/3/2010 12:10:43 AM , Rating: 3
Winamp.


RE: iTunes
By quiksilvr on 8/3/2010 9:24:51 AM , Rating: 2
YES! Winamp for the win. It's insanely flexible, supports that pesky .m4a format and doesn't eat up 200MB of HDD space (and has a small memory footprint)


RE: iTunes
By Hieyeck on 8/4/2010 3:45:28 PM , Rating: 2
Just disable the winamp5 themes and you're golden :)


RE: iTunes
By Gio6518 on 8/2/2010 5:58:39 PM , Rating: 4
<quote >I JUST HOPE that all you Android owners also ditch iTunes.
quote:


That's for sure after I ebay'd the family's ipods, removed itunes, and wow the computers sped up, didn't realize how much resource it was using.........


RE: iTunes
By InternetGeek on 8/2/2010 7:26:33 PM , Rating: 3
You guys might laugh at this, but I'm using Zune. I've ripped all my music to lossless for archiving. From there I used Zune to convert everything into mp4's that my Nexus One can reproduce with no issues.

Because I have an xbox it recognizes the music in my PC so I can play it out when I have friends over, and because it's lossless it sounds perfect.


RE: iTunes
By feraltoad on 8/2/2010 8:09:28 PM , Rating: 2
Could you describe your process? I have most of my music in windows lossless and I'm still looking for an easier way to share music with my phone.

In my dream world I have a Zune app for my Droid.


RE: iTunes
By InternetGeek on 8/3/2010 7:40:36 AM , Rating: 2
Hopefully, you'll get this. But to convert to MP4 you have two options. Handbrake or Expression Encoder. Depending on who you work for Encoder comes in a MSDN subscription. I also use it to record presentations and other materials I prepare.

Handbrake will do the conversion of either music or videos for free for you. And believe it or not the only thing needed to convert music for the Nexus One is an MP4 encoder, and make sure it saves the files using ".mp4" as extension. By default Handbrake and Encoder will use ".m4p".

That's it.


RE: iTunes
By omnicronx on 8/3/2010 1:08:35 PM , Rating: 2
It kind of also depends on what kind of lossless audio you have, there are many free encoders out there.

Are you talking Apple Lossless? OR something like Flac?

For a quick and dirty, just use something like like foobar2000.(its a free music player that plays pretty much anything). Load up your files, highlight the files you want converted, right click and press convert. A screen will pop up and you just have to select the output format. (I think android supports formats like Ogg vorbis, AAC, and obviously MP3).

Remember mp4 is just a container ;) It can contain pretty much anything from lossless to a plain old mp3.


RE: iTunes
By feraltoad on 8/4/2010 5:13:00 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks for the info! I was hoping that you were using the Zune s/w to convert/manage a library of alternate formats. Looks like I will have to quit being so lazy or just stick to having my music collection on my Zune and Slacker/Pandora on the phone.


RE: iTunes
By InternetGeek on 8/3/2010 7:42:07 AM , Rating: 2
Also, It's possible Zune will come to Android. Just recently, it was announced that Mono's port to Android is mostly done. This means .NET developers and their tools in both WP7 and Android.


RE: iTunes
By OnyxNite on 8/3/2010 11:01:29 AM , Rating: 2
Except the Mono dev tools for android cost hundreds of dollars* while they are free on WP7. That being the case I don't think .Net developers are going to flock to android.

* Last I heard MonoDroid would be priced similarly to MonoTouch which costs from $400 to $1000 depending on which license you get (Personal or Corporate.)


RE: iTunes
By AstroCreep on 8/2/2010 8:57:18 PM , Rating: 2
You don't need all that junk: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/slimming-down-the-b...
The article is a little older, but it still holds up well.

A good argument for wanting to "Slim-down" the install? No, not at all. I am a bit of a minimalist and frankly, wouldn't use iTunes if it weren't for my iPhone.
I can't wait for Android 2.2 to start showing up; I want to see how well the new Exchange support works. At this point we're limited to ActiveSync-based phones at my work, which in turn limits us to WinMo or iPhone.


RE: iTunes
By kmmatney on 8/2/2010 10:07:01 PM , Rating: 2
After installing iTunes, you can go in and uninstall Bonjour, MobileMe and a few other things. I think its down to 1 or 2 services for me, and not slowing anyhting down. I've never been able to find a good alternative to iTunes, and found that after you take a few seconds to configure it and remove the crap you don't need, it works well.


RE: iTunes
By jimbojimbo on 8/3/2010 3:54:39 PM , Rating: 2
If I can remove Quicktime as well maybe I wouldn't hate it so much.


RE: iTunes
By hughlle on 8/3/2010 4:24:31 AM , Rating: 3
Whry do you assume we have itunes installed?


uhh, someone got some number way off....
By honkj on 8/2/10, Rating: 0
By operaghost on 8/2/2010 2:14:45 PM , Rating: 2
Yep. You're right. Someone's numbers are off. Unfortunately it is you. You added the U.S. and China shipments and called it worldwide.

U.S. shipments accounted for 23% globally.

OG


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By Gio6518 on 8/2/2010 2:17:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
so someone screwed up badly.....


No the numbers are accurate there are over 160k Android handsets being activates daily, and with iPhone 4, yes they are a lot activations, but the majority arent new customers they are existing customers upgrading their old 3g or 3gs handsets, which is why they're actually losing marketshare, since androids popularity is relatively new, they're stealing away customers from iPhone, blackberry, palm and Windows. Despite its great OS, Android also has so many companies manufacturing them not counting the fact that Android handsets are available on pretty much every carrier, major or minor worldwide.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By dwalton on 8/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By Gio6518 on 8/2/2010 5:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
All honesty yes they can keep those numbers up. They continuously have new releases monthly, which is what keeps their sales strong. Apple releases 1 new phone a year, that's why sales are strong at first then drops off, if you look EVO and Droid x still have a back log to fill, then bam Droid 2 will come out, then bam again epic 4g will come out, then HTC scorpion will emerge etc. Etc. etc.

Look at it this way I have 4 phones on my plan 3 being blackberries and 1 was a LG lotus all have been replaced with Android phones, so blackberry lost 3 Android gained 4, this is not just my scenario, but typical of users, but I will be dumping both my kids heroes for epic 4g's now that wouldn't up their market share, plus the fact at&t has finally started carrying a quality Android phone (the captivate) which opens up the market for more sales. your right won't last forever, but will continue for a long time.
Android right now has the hottest hardware and software, closest thing would be the iPhone 4, but that in reality hasnt even caught up to the 9 month old nexus one, OS 4 comes close to Android 2.1 but now 2.2 is rolling out, and from the sound of it Android 3 is going to be beyond amazing, even top current Android phones like the evo, Droid x etc. Will just meet minimum requirements, so that does give an indication to what's coming, by the end of the year, will keep sales going strong.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By dwalton on 8/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By Gio6518 on 8/2/2010 8:17:51 PM , Rating: 4
Sure it would of they just underestimated its demand and didn't produce enough. Also just like other iPhone models high demand at first then sales dwindle rapidly. Apple properly prepared for its launch, you forget a couple things.
1) customer knew it was coming and were amply stocked they didn't really increase market share since most.were upgrades from older iPhone models
2) Steve jobs creates a lot of artificial hype with bogus numbers.
3) those numbers are a worldwide launch, not just US.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By Gio6518 on 8/2/2010 9:18:54 PM , Rating: 2
There's a big difference in a phone for a US launch aimed at 400 million compared to a worldwide launch aimed at 8 billion, since 1/20 of the population is in the US take that 4 million in sales divide by 20 and that would equal to 200k, of course these numbers aren't accurate since official numbers released by an unbiased 3rd party for only US sales (at least to my knowledge) hasn't been released.

These numbers are for US marketshare.

And a person updating from a 3g to an iPhone 4 doesn't increase marketshare, only a person without an iPhone then buys one would increase marketshare. Like how Sprint has 250k new members because of the EVO is an increase in marketshare.


By darkblade33 on 8/2/2010 11:25:49 PM , Rating: 2
I dont completely disagree with what you say, but you have to look at the whole picture. There is enough data to suggest true growth in any market whether is Droid, Rim, or iPhone. The reason is more and more people are moving away from simple handhelds to smartphones. I still know ALOT of people with simple handhelds that only want a phone.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By darkblade33 on 8/2/2010 11:22:30 PM , Rating: 2
Congratulations to Google's success with Android, but something many fanboys don't consider is the data combines the sales of ALL Droid phones against everyone else.. It's accurate for Google's success..

But this is not accurate for each phone makers success - Take into account each Android phonemaker is in direct competition with one another, trying to put the other out of business (ie, HTC v/s Motorola ) - Much like anyone whose make a Windows 7 computer ( dell, hp, sony, etc ) are in direct competition with each other..

So yes, congratulations to Google, but Any-ONE-Single Droid maker is not making the NET Dollars that Apple is making which in the business world is all that actually matters.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By omnicronx on 8/3/2010 2:01:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So yes, congratulations to Google, but Any-ONE-Single Droid maker is not making the NET Dollars that Apple is making which in the business world is all that actually matters.
It matters to Apple, and those who own Apple stock.

Please explain to me as a consumer, how does having multiple manufacturers constantly competing against one another constitute as a bad thing?

Android is now selling better than the iPhone, there is no taking away from that.

FYI: Are you seriously calling out 'Android Fanboys'? Your entire post is completely bias.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By Tony Swash on 8/4/2010 12:57:55 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Android is now selling better than the iPhone, there is no taking away from that.


Right there you have a problem. You, like many here, are comparing a hardware platform (iPhone) with an OS (Android).

Wouldn't it be more accurate to compare an OS with an OS?

In which case you should compare iOS with Android and that means including all the iPod Touches and iPads sold and that changes the comparative figures quite a lot.

Apple has very deliberately gone about creating a versatile touch based OS than can run on lots of hardware platforms beyond just phones. This means for developers its just one big potential market, creating an iPad or iPod touch version of your iPhone app is very trivial.

Having the biggest developer community, the most apps, the most profitable market for developers (which Apple currently has) may not mean your OS ends up being the biggest but it probably means that iOS will be a very big player for a long while yet and it may end up being a critical strategic advantage. Time will tell.

There will probably be some Android based tablets and perhaps other devices in the near future and if there are then the figures for those devices should be included in the total for Android.


RE: uhh, someone got some number way off....
By themaster08 on 8/4/2010 3:40:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
In which case you should compare iOS with Android and that means including all the iPod Touches and iPads sold and that changes the comparative figures quite a lot.
quote:
Android is New Smartphone Market Leader
The iPad and iPod touch are not smartphones, so no.


By Tony Swash on 8/5/2010 12:39:18 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
quote:
In which case you should compare iOS with Android and that means including all the iPod Touches and iPads sold and that changes the comparative figures quite a lot.
quote:
Android is New Smartphone Market Leader
The iPad and iPod touch are not smartphones, so no.


Either you compare hardware (i.e. phones) or you compare OS (i.e. iOS and Anroid).

If you compare phones you should compare models against models. Why lump models made by different companies together just because they all use variations of the same OS (i.e Android)?

That would only make sense if what you are actually lumping together, what you consider the significant factor, is the OS that those phones run, in which case you should lump together the iOS devices. Seems logical to me.

Surely the point of all this commentary, the reason the figures profiled in the article are significant, is because some people think that the relative size of different segments of the phone market is significant. If so then compare different phones. If the significant factor is the relative market size of different OS then compare OS.

Let me ask you this - if and when Android starts to appear on devices other than phones would you consider the data about the number of such devices sold to be relevant to the question of the overall success or market weight of Android? Genuine question.


By hughlle on 8/2/2010 4:28:22 PM , Rating: 2
I was out at a party a week or two back. There were countless more android (htc desire especially) than Apple.


... which is the way it should be
By Paj on 8/2/2010 1:16:18 PM , Rating: 4
Assuming this data is true, it makes me happy. Im glad that an open OS beats a closed one, and the fact this mirrors the PC market of the 80s and 90s.

From what Ive read of their plans for Gingerbread, forcing a minimum spec for the OS is the right idea (should have been done a while ago). This will prevent app incompatibilities, which is one of the more annoying problems with Android right now.




RE: ... which is the way it should be
By hpram99 on 8/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: ... which is the way it should be
By themaster08 on 8/2/2010 6:59:39 PM , Rating: 2
Closed source != closed platform.


By hpram99 on 8/3/2010 1:20:29 PM , Rating: 2
I agree that Android is a sort of open platform. (Open developer platform albeit a $25 registration fee). However I was responding to the comments about the open source OS, which -if you read the article- has very little open source, not enough to be functional.


RE: ... which is the way it should be
By InternetGeek on 8/2/2010 7:31:36 PM , Rating: 2
No you're wrong. You can download android's entire source code from code.google.com. It's there. They even tell you which IDEs you can use and such.

AND just recently it was anounced that Mono is coming to Android. Bringing with it all the .NET developers. In other words, expect a lot of apps for both markets...


By hpram99 on 8/3/2010 1:41:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No you're wrong. You can download android's entire source code from code.google.com. It's there. They even tell you which IDEs you can use and such.


I'm not making the claims, the claims were made at the 2010 OSCON. Please read the article that was posted before claiming I'm wrong. Only the kernel is GPL, everything else is Apache license which allows for proprietary modification without giving source.

quote:
AND just recently it was anounced that Mono is coming to Android. Bringing with it all the .NET developers. In other words, expect a lot of apps for both markets...


I believe your mixing up "open source" with "open platform" like themaster08 mentioned...

Voting my post down without even reading the supporting reference.. I'm starting to believe that some of the Android crowd and comments are sheer fanboyism like the iPhone crowd..


RE: ... which is the way it should be
By DanNeely on 8/2/10, Rating: -1
By smackababy on 8/2/2010 1:52:11 PM , Rating: 3
Google makes the Android source code available. In order to root the phone's firmware, you need to break into the software. Completely different. The phones are not totally open, but the OS is.


RE: ... which is the way it should be
By Quadrillity on 8/2/2010 1:54:16 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about. The phones don't come standard with root access because 99% of people out there are too stupid to keep their phones in working condition after a root.


RE: ... which is the way it should be
By smackababy on 8/2/2010 3:08:10 PM , Rating: 2
You mean System32 isn't a virus?


By Treckin on 8/2/2010 5:15:19 PM , Rating: 2
Someone give this man a six...

And point him towards CLEANmyPC.com...


By omnicronx on 8/3/2010 11:52:17 AM , Rating: 2
It most likely is true, but I can pretty much guarentee its going to reverse back to its former state come Q4.

Q3 was a downtime for both Apple and RIM, both companies are right in the middle of product refreshes.

My guess is it will take another year for Android to truly take command of the smartphone market.


The best is yet to come, too
By dgingeri on 8/2/2010 3:47:33 PM , Rating: 3
all those phones mentioned are good phones. Some might even be great. However, from what I've seen, the best is yet to come. The Droid 2 (not my favorite) and the Samsung Galaxy S phones are not out yet. Well, one is, the Captivate. It blows the doors off the Droid X, but its stuck on AT&T.

Their best model IMO will be the Epic, but it's stuck on Sprint. At least it will be 4G. I think I'll be going for that when it comes out. Slide out keyboard, 4" AMOLED screen, 1GHz Hummingbird chip with HW acceleration for 3D and video playback, 512MB of memory, 720p movie recording, and 30% slimmer than the Droid 2. it's going to be great.




RE: The best is yet to come, too
By Camikazi on 8/2/2010 8:31:00 PM , Rating: 2
What Captivate? The thing says Galaxy S on the back of it :P that confused me when my friend got it, he kept saying Captivate while the thing clearly says Galaxy S on it.


RE: The best is yet to come, too
By Mortando on 8/4/2010 11:29:22 AM , Rating: 2
The Galaxy S line goes by different names for different carriers:
AT&T -> Captivate
Sprint -> Epic
Verizon -> Fascinate
T-Mobile -> Vibrant
U.S. Cellular -> Galaxy S


By theapparition on 8/3/2010 12:34:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well, one is, the Captivate. It blows the doors off the Droid X, but its stuck on AT&T

In no known universe does the Captivate exceed the Driod X.

Only thing better is the Galaxy S's GPU.


Impossible
By LRonaldHubbs on 8/2/2010 7:54:15 PM , Rating: 5
Google will not prevail. Consumers prefer a closed system like Apple provides. Open systems promote piracy and general degradation of moral values, resulting in the killing of babies and the collapse of civilized society. Closed systems create a utopia of happiness and sunshine and rainbows and unicorns.

/reader1




RE: Impossible
By SavagePotato on 8/3/2010 4:10:02 PM , Rating: 2
Go easy on reader1, he is slow to reply since he replaced his pc with an ipad thinking it was going to completely change the world and replace the pc overnight, and of course because of this It is very hard for him to peck out his nonsense at a reasonable rate on a touchscreen keyboard.


Apps marketshare
By Tyhr on 8/3/2010 3:34:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, Chrome is 1 OS on multiple hardware platforms while iPhone OS is on 1 hardware platform (company).

That is akin to Windows on Dell/HP/Compaq/no-name
and MacOS on Macs
and AmigaDOS on Amigas.

In it's prime, the Amiga had (arguably) far superior hardware than the other platforms.
Why did it fail?
The sheer number of crappy PC's meant developers programmed for the business numbers - there was more software for PC's than Amigas.
Software availability/support dictated hardware purchase commitments.

(same thing for these new video game consoles - the available quality games often has a stronger influence on purchases than the technology of the hardware)

What originally separated iPhones from the others:
- apps!

What is going to happen now the Chrome has the market numbers over iPhoneOS?
-There will be more APPS being developed for Chrome than iPhone, effectively turning the iPhone's strongest feature into a weakness.

I'm sure Apple will continue to have a slice of the market, but the multiple vendors Chrome can work on will most likely ensure it's dominance eventually...perhaps in as early as 3 years.

Apple did survive the onslaught of Windows back then, so they could again...then again, it was Microsoft itself that gave money to Apple to keep them alive. Many people seem to forget that.

FYI - I own an iPhone 3GS.
My contract runs out in 2 years. I'm keeping an open mind/eye on what to get then.




RE: Apps marketshare
By jimbojimbo on 8/3/2010 3:58:25 PM , Rating: 3
By the way Chrome is a browser. I believe you wanted to use the word mentioned about a hundred times in this thread so far, Android .

If you have an iPhone 3GS and your contract runs out in 2 years that means you JUST bought a 3GS. You sad, sad man.


Droid meh
By hpram99 on 8/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: Droid meh
By Chaser on 8/2/2010 1:56:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
even though my Pre is very outdated by today's standards it's still more useable.


What as a phone dialer? Or those whole 300 apps it garnered?

I love the "I don't have it" neysayers.

As when we talk openess folks its a comparative between the top "app" style phones out there? Not some vague off in limbo other brand no one knows about or cares about.

My Evo just got Flash. I was watching Hulu on an airline flight. Yes I know, Flash isn't important. But I have choices with Android compared to the "competition". Yeah that other brand folks. Not the P92X-4400G............Phone.


RE: Droid meh
By hpram99 on 8/3/2010 1:10:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What as a phone dialer? Or those whole 300 apps it garnered?

I love the "I don't have it" neysayers.


I'm not sure what "apps" have to do with my complaints of outdated hardware, I have all the apps I could want thank you.

Again, I had an Incredible, didn't like it, still don't like the other Android phones so I'm not going to buy another one.


What about my at&t android phone
By SurreDeth on 8/2/2010 2:54:26 PM , Rating: 2
Can I get something newer than 1.5 on my Backflip? I thought Android phones were open. :(




By Souka on 8/2/2010 3:18:23 PM , Rating: 2
Totally incorrect
By KoolAidMan1 on 8/3/2010 12:13:02 AM , Rating: 4
http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/...

Android had the fastest growth over the last quarter. However, it still lags far behind iPhone and Blackberry in terms of smartphone marketshare.

RIM has the lead at 35%, Apple second at 28%, Windows Mobile at 15% (and declining fast), with Android taking up fourth place at 13%.

The other thing to take into account is that iPhone sales plummeted in Q2 as people held off for the next version to come out. I am interested to see the spike in iPhone marketshare when the results for Q3 come out.

In any case, Android is very far from being the #1 smartphone OS in the US.




Meh...
By triadone on 8/2/2010 5:40:12 PM , Rating: 1
Wordplay. This is exactly like MS and its windows dominance in the PC market. To say that Windows has the largest share gives no understanding of who is selling the most hardware. LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC? It's just one big glob of Google-based phones, treating them all the same. The numbers are nice but much like PCs, there are brands that are better from a hardware and engineering standpoint than others. I don't know that Google should really be emulating MS' approach of, "Put it in a toaster, we don't care! All we care is market share!"

I find it interesting that while many are touting the droid's "openness", Gingerbread is effectively stepping closer to the perceived limitations of iOS, trying to do more standardization of both hardware and UI across different brands. Needless to say, the app development and installation/use may also start looking a bit more like Apple's as droid doesn't need to have "An app for that...identity theft." I'd be curious to see how the droid phones break down in different markets. e.g., What's the percentage of growth in markets where RIM and iPhones are available on multiple networks? I've also seen marketing surveys indicating that a fair share of smartphone users on Verizon, for example, opt for a droid or RIM phone even though they want an iPhone, but they don't want to deal with switching to another carrier, much less AT&T. It would be nice to see a comparison of sales figures when/if Apple sells on Verizon, T-mobile, etc. I'm guessing there will be a healthy share of the noted 8888666888866666%%%%%%!!!!!- that end up jumping into the iPhone market.




RE: Meh...
By CptTripps on 8/2/2010 8:03:05 PM , Rating: 2
MS does have dominance in the PC market and sell tons upon tons of software. Android OS is on many different phones but they are gonna make money off every single one of those phones via the appstore. Why should MS (Google) care how many devices are sold under which hardware vendor? As long as the hardware moves they are doing well.

Even if gingerbread locks things down for a more enjoyable end user experience (think Vista/Win7 Certified), the source code will still be "open". Adding some base requirements does not make it any less open source.

I was one of those "I need an iphone 4" guys and almost jumped until ATT got the Captivate (in AK we have little option) which I found much cheaper at walmart. Me and my Iphone4 buddy compared the phones together and honestly both of us were impressed with both phones. I loved the look of his and of course it runs well while he was pleasantly suprised with how well Android is coming along.

The cameras both kicked ass, we both had cool games and were able to do most of the same things. Iphone is ahead in the appstore but I have a feeling that won't be forever. That said, I went google because I hate how Apple runs things. They make great stuff, but I won't give them my money and will not be part of that %.


Monopoly in the making
By bhougha10 on 8/2/2010 6:32:49 PM , Rating: 1
So let me get this. Google is providing a free operating system on a bunch of China manufactured phones? Basically running out of market the only portion of the phone that could make some money for a US company?

Once Google runs everyone out of buisness and then comes back and tries to start charging for the software or putting adds on the phones, they should be sued for monopolistic practices.




RE: Monopoly in the making
By OnyxNite on 8/3/2010 11:15:52 AM , Rating: 2
Even if Google ran everyone out of business as you say and then came back and tried to start charging they could only do so for future releases. What would happen then is that the various phone manufacturers and carriers would refuse to pay and instead take the most recent free version and "fork" it. Developing it going forward without Google and thus avoiding the fees. Google will stick ads in Android but they'll do it by offering you a good enough service for free that you're willing to accept the ads, like they do with gmail.


So much FUD
By vision33r on 8/2/2010 2:04:07 PM , Rating: 2
These news are so untrust worthy, while I despise the iPhone. Nothing as bad as false reporting.

Yes the Android phones are selling, they are not outselling their rivals. The numbers are out that Android phones have leaped out from their prior sales figure and make a huge jump. But total sales figures are nowhere close to what RIM and Apple sells.

These reports are way too optimistic.

Now go down the street in busy NYC, where are the android phones? They are still a minority.




I"m sure I'm missing something...
By Souka on 8/2/2010 3:22:55 PM , Rating: 2
Pretty sure I don't understand somehting, but this sentence in the article caught my attention.
"What is happening, though, is that they appear to be missing the growth opportunity that Android has found with its open, third-party hardware model"

I get the iPhone is a closed model..only Apple makes it, only apple makes the OS.... Same goes with RIM

However, Windows mobile is sold by a variety of manufacturers, so would this be considered a "third-party hardware model" ? I don't seem to recall Microsoft selling Windows mobile phones.

Comments?




I doubt it...
By bplewis24 on 8/2/2010 6:32:36 PM , Rating: 2
Steve Jobs told me these numbers aren't true, so I don't believe this.

Brandon ;-)




By desertfox23 on 8/3/2010 7:43:49 PM , Rating: 2
WTF Fanboy Site what are we 16?

What's with all the Apple (A CA company were people are located in the usa and speak english to talk)bashing. I love itunes,love my Iphone4,love my mac my girlfriend loves her Ipad. How many Ipods and Iphones have sold to date. I know reception problems, I had none in bum Fu*& nowhere. If you don't like simple apps,no viruses, going to a apple store, have you ever been at a apple store? It's like black friday on some washed up monday. Don't buy Apple then. What is this 5th grade all over again. My brother can beat up your brother? So many people have bought a Iphone after they seen mine. Meanwhile,good luck with customer service in India on your droid. GK1




Updating/upgrading the OS
By DrApop on 8/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: Updating/upgrading the OS
By Chaser on 8/2/2010 2:21:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
To start out, I don't own a smart phone nor do I see the need.


Next.


RE: Updating/upgrading the OS
By DrApop on 8/2/2010 3:24:21 PM , Rating: 1
But I might buy a android tablet.


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