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Will RIM's first competitive hardware in some time, the Blackberry 9860 help it break RIM's sales slump? The device won't be available until October in the U.S, so we won't know for some time.  (Source: RIM)
Market share-wise Android continues to dominate, Samsung also does well

Survey data isn't the most reliable form of market research, but when collected in sufficient quantities it can provide some interesting insight.  ComScore has cobbled together its latest phone survey report, which queried over 30,000 U.S. phone customers over the age of 13.

The study reports that among the surveyed users with a smartphone, the number of users of Google, Inc.'s (GOOG) Android operating system has sharply risen.  In April Android held a 36.4 percent market share, three months later it's risen to 41.8.

By contrast Apple, Inc. (AAPL) largely held steady managing an anemic 1 percent gain, rising from 26 percent to 27 percent over the same period.  Meanwhile Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), Waterloo, Ontario-Based Research in Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM), and Finnish phone maker Nokia Oyj.'s (HEL:NOK1V) soon-to-be-defunct Symbian OS all shed market share, with RIM's 4 percent drop being the most severe.

RIM's losses ostensibly came due to the company's failure to match Apple in customer brand loyalty, Google in device selection, and both rivals in app selection.  RIM does offer industry-leading secured business solutions, such as encrypted email.  However, to the average consumer, the utility of those services may be minimal.

The phone maker has also lagged in hardware.  Earlier this month, it did at last unveil a single competitive offering -- the high-resolution touch screen BlackBerry Torch 9860.  However, the device will not launch until October in the U.S. (on AT&T, Inc. (T)).

In terms of overall phone sales (both smart phone and non-smart phone), the rankings remained unchanged with Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (SEO:005930) on top, LG Electronics (SEO:066570) in second, Google's recently acquired Motorola unit in third, Apple in fourth, and RIM in fifth.

Both Samsung and Apple, buoyed by strong smart phone sales, saw 1+ percent growth in overall phone sales.  Meanwhile Motorola sank by 1.5 percent.

The study also revealed that all types of smart phone use, including gaming, internet browsing, music listening, and social networking continues to rise.

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RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By sgtdisturbed47 on 8/31/2011 10:51:50 PM , Rating: 2
Back in "the day" (in terms of technology), when smartphones were just emerging, Blackberry was the awesome hot item. The nearly flawless email delivery system was RIM's claim to fame. They unfortunately didn't ride that wave very long. The Curve was a hit, but I believe it was the Storm that really became the negative turning point for RIM. All of that hype of a touch screen Crackberry turned into upset customers and people turning to other touch screen systems (like iPhone), because of how much the screen system fails. iPhone boasted an awesome touch screen, with smooth, accurate response and an App store packed with far more app than RIM will every have. Now, I'm not in the Apple Camp, but I am a consumer that has used both devices. I still own a Storm, but I can see clearly how the failure of RIM's touch-screen has led to people looking elsewhere. Straight-up: consumers want touch screens that have fast, accurate response and they want a billion apps for all kinds of silly things. RIM should have kept up and tried to perfect their touch screens, but instead they wait 2+ years to deliver a touch screen worthy of Facebook addicts/App junkies/Txt whores. Technology has a very short lifespan. "Tech years" are like "Dog years", where a device that is 1 year old for us is really like 10 years for the rest of Technology. RIM seriously dropped the ball with the Storm. I love the Blackberry Storm, but that's just me, and seeing where RIM is now compared to where they were in 2006, well, apparently the rest of the world could care less about anything that RIM offers now.




RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Samus on 9/1/2011 3:41:07 AM , Rating: 1
I don't know...I still have a G1 which is mid-2008 technology, and is still so competitive with the current smartphones, its shocking how many people STILL have a G1.

The same applies to Blackberry. Many people still use old 7200's, 8800's, 8300's, all prior to the Curve/Bold architecture. They love their scroll wheels, trackballs, etc.

But the real obvious giveaway that the hardware isn't RIM's problem is how people get new hardware, but complain about the software. I have a client ask me at least once a week if I can downgrade an employees new blackberry to OS5. The improvements RIM has made are the equivilent of those made in Windows Vista. It's not enough to justify the sluggish performance, the ridiculous stuggle to accomplish simple tasks, and the fact that everything is for some reason moved to a different place for no improvement what-so-ever.

All RIM needs to do is stop alienating loyal, die-hard users and stop cattering to a crowd that wants something they are not. The new software is making people leave the Blackberry circle.


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/1/11, Rating: 0
By cruisin3style on 9/1/2011 8:07:09 PM , Rating: 4
No.


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By retrospooty on 9/1/2011 9:59:29 AM , Rating: 2
"RIM seriously dropped the ball with the Storm"

RIMM dropped all of thier balls on all fronts. Almost 5 years ago in January Apple announced the iPhone and showed off its great UI and multitouch interface. All other OS's soon caught up, even anemic PAlm came out with a great one... 2 companies have still not caught up. RIMM and Symbian. Note which 2 companies have lost major marketshare hand over fist? You got it, RIMM and Symbian


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/1/2011 11:10:57 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
2 companies have still not caught up. RIMM and Symbian.
Don't listen to this troll 'cause he never tried new full screen Torch 9860 so he has no freaking idea what he's talking about.

It's a common thing here - trolls bashing RIM based on some old models from 1-3 years ago. Do NOT believe these clueless morons until you tried new BB OS 7 device like Torch 9860 in the store. Only YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with new BB OS 7 devices is the key, not some retro troll who knows nothing about the subject (i.e. about the new BB OS 7 devices).


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By retrospooty on 9/2/2011 8:43:27 AM , Rating: 2
Your too late el fanboy especial! At this point the BB mail service is totally obsolete and RIMM can ONLY compete on the merit's of this phones/OS. They wont be able to do it. Their marketsahre will whittle away until they either sell it off OR they come up with some major innovation. Simoply catching up to where other phones were 2-3 years ago (which you claim OS7 has) isnt going to be enough.


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/2/2011 10:41:05 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
isnt going to be enough
Maybe in the US but outside of the US is seems to be way MORE than enough judging how fast RIM revenues and profits keep growing outside of the US.

The old RIM phones used to be weak in multimedia and used to have slow clunky UI, so back then there were some real/practical reasons for people to move to more multimedia friendly fancy/smooth UI toting platforms like iPhone.

Now with BB OS 7 these flaws are no more. There's HD video recording and all the multimedia/video/photo/etc bells and whistles one can wish (Playbook can shoot real high quality 1080p videos, watch this one about how movie directors/cinematographers use this Playbook's unique capability: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypRQhYuHI80 ), full social integration with Twitter/BBM/Facebook etc, app store with 3 million downloads every day, fancy great looking and smooth UI, real fast 1.2GHz CPUs, full OpenGL ES 2.0 support, hew 4G radios, big time 3D games like Dead Space on Playbook, unique super high quality hardware keyboards on some models("typing on Bold 99xx is like typing on clouds in heaven" - they say in reviews), unique very convenient optical trackpad (can't live without it, it's the best thing since the invention of multitouch screen and Apple does NOT have this, bebebe :P), microSD slot and removable battery (both are not present in iPhone either, bebebe :P) etc etc...

So, as youc an see now, there's no pull to other platforms anymore, since other platforms do not offer any significant advantages over RIM's platform, hence RIM can still keep his huge fan base outiside the US and keep growing there.

Do you understand now why anti-RIM trolls like Jason Mick look so dumb to me?


By retrospooty on 9/2/2011 11:07:25 PM , Rating: 2
Not everyone that chooses different products than you chose is a Troll. Please, PLEASE read that last sentence 10x a day so you remember it.


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/2/2011 11:22:00 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Their marketshare will whittle away
How do you like this one, ya clueless retro troll :))) ==>> http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41374/blackberry-p...

Hey, looks like your little confused brain is whittling away here, don't you think? ;o)


By retrospooty on 9/2/2011 11:06:01 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, yes, the playbook is outselling apple by what a whhopping negative 1000 something percent and yet its more popular? LOL ya, thats believeable data.

Wait. FAnboy clash, must choose Rimm or Apple to blindly follow Does not compute. Cannot comprehend. Pirks. What happened!


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By bety on 9/8/2011 6:29:36 AM , Rating: 2
RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/1/2011 11:17:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I love the Blackberry Storm, but that's just me, and seeing where RIM is now compared to where they were in 2006, well, apparently the rest of the world could care less about anything that RIM offers now
Haha, it's obvious you haven't tried new Torch 9860 AKA Storm 3. Well, I can understand your feelings, everyone who haven't tried this new Torch thinks like you :)


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By retrospooty on 9/2/2011 8:48:55 AM , Rating: 2
"Haha, it's obvious you haven't tried new Torch 9860 AKA Storm 3. Well, I can understand your feelings, everyone who haven't tried this new Torch thinks like you :) "

Not that this was in reply to me, but I have to point out your continued lack of reading comprehension. You are replying to someone who like his BB, and notices where RIOMM is now compared to 4 years ago. His point was not anything bad about RIMM or thier phones, - his point was "the rest of the world could care less about anything that RIM offers now"

RIMM is now where Palm was several years ago. They once upon a time had a great idea and built on it. After the rest of the world passed them by, they simply played catch up but could never pass anyone again. If you have any questions, as to the result of Palm, and where they are today google it.


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/2/2011 10:17:44 AM , Rating: 1
Bullshit. Google and Microsoft also play catch up trying to match Apple's offers but somehow nobody trolls them. Everybody trolls RIM only. That's because most people are idiots and don't understand shit about how markets work.


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By retrospooty on 9/2/2011 11:03:11 PM , Rating: 2
Nobody trolls apple? What have YOU been doing here for years? Where is the real Pirks!


RE: RIM Dropped The Ball, Big Time.
By Pirks on 9/6/2011 1:26:51 PM , Rating: 2
What you call "trolling" Apple is actually "envying" them, I thought it was 100% clear for you. What happened to you?


Litigate! Litigate!
By Alchemy69 on 8/31/2011 6:37:48 PM , Rating: 1
"The lawsuits aren't working. Quick, issue some more"




RE: Litigate! Litigate!
By inperfectdarkness on 8/31/2011 9:36:21 PM , Rating: 1
we can't sue. we'll ever overtake them if we sue. have have to do directly to ludicrous speed.


Invevitably
By masamasa on 9/1/2011 11:04:14 AM , Rating: 2
The 1% gain will turn into a loss in market share because of the simple fact that people like choice and not being told what to do.




?
By fxnick on 9/4/2011 11:32:10 PM , Rating: 2
Whats the logic to compare the Android OS thats used on lots of devices, to one phone model.
Why not compare the iphone to each android phone.




Droids
By mritter1981 on 8/31/11, Rating: 0
"You can bet that Sony built a long-term business plan about being successful in Japan and that business plan is crumbling." -- Peter Moore, 24 hours before his Microsoft resignation











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