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Sells ten times faster than the original iPad

According to Reuters, Apple's iPad 2 sold one million units in its launch weekend, surpassing the milestone almost 10 times as fast as its predecessor. 

The iPad 2 went on sale last Friday at Apple, Verizon, and AT&T stores, as well as Target, Wal-Mart, and Best Buy. Large crowds were reported across the United States, with more than 500 people queued up at Apple's flagship San Francisco store and roughly another 800 at its Manhattan location. The crowds even attracted gawkers.

"Our field checks over the weekend indicate that the iPad 2 sold out at every Apple and non-Apple store we contacted," Ticonderoga Securities analyst Brian White wrote in a research note. "In fact, all the stores had worked through iPad 2 inventory by Saturday afternoon, and there were no new iPad 2 deliveries on Sunday."

White told Reuters that the iPad 2 could potentially have sold one million units in its first weekend, a feat that took 28 days for the original when it hit the market last year. Wedbush Securities analyst Scott Sutherland echoed White's prediction.

With the launch, Apple appears to have secured its number one spot in the tablet market for the time being, cooling the momentum that tablets from other manufacturers such as Motorola and Samsung were beginning to gain.

Apple is expected to retain 61 percent of the lucrative tablet market for 2011, according J.P. Morgan analyst Mark Moscowitz. According to Moscowitz, other companies will have trouble attracting customers the way Apple has.

The iPad 2 is set to launch worldwide on March 25.


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Will never catch on
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 2:19:11 PM , Rating: 2
The iPad and tablets in general will never catch on.

No one will buy these things, and no other companies will try to make their own version.

Fact!




RE: Will never catch on
By Pirks on 3/14/11, Rating: 0
RE: Will never catch on
By Samus on 3/14/2011 10:23:33 PM , Rating: 2
Automobiles are ridiculous. Where is my horse?


RE: Will never catch on
By TEAMSWITCHER on 3/14/2011 2:51:14 PM , Rating: 1
You are already dead wrong. The iPad is a huge hit for Apple and will very likely lead to more Mac, iPod, and iPhone sales - giving Apple multiple halo effects.

Android 3.0 is a step in the right direction but it's still two years behind iOS for tablets. Google should have baked it more before letting Motorola serve it. It's gonna leave a bad taste.


RE: Will never catch on
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 2:59:25 PM , Rating: 4
lol, sorry, I really should have added a sarcasm tag. :o)

I'm assuming that you've been here long enough to know that the DT consensus is that the iPad wont catch on, will fail etc...

Even in the face of huge sales and other companies scrambling to catch up, they still insist that tablets are just toys and it will all pass soon.


RE: Will never catch on
By The Raven on 3/14/2011 3:10:33 PM , Rating: 3
I'm not sure most people don't think it will "catch on" but they don't think it will over take conventional Desktops and Laptops as consumers' main computing device. There has been much hype in the media about that and that is still to be seen. Only time will tell, though my money is on the lappy/netbook.

But then again, the iPad with a cover on it is essentially a lappy/netbook that doesn't run a full powered OS like OSX, Windows, or any flavor of Linux. So I may be wrong when the lines of definition are blurred.

But personally I know that I don't need anything for the space between a laptop and a smartphone or PMP.


RE: Will never catch on
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 3:30:58 PM , Rating: 3
I think you're shifting the goalposts there, quite dramatically too. The predictions are that the iPad and tablets would fail totally, and no one would want one, period. Not that they would replace desktops and laptops. Tablets have always been an additional device.


RE: Will never catch on
By bupkus on 3/14/11, Rating: -1
RE: Will never catch on
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 4:12:40 PM , Rating: 4
I just find the sheer level of denial, and the Apple distortion field (not the one your thinking of, but the one that Apple haters see through) which makes some people not be able to comprehend what is right in front of their eyes. A popular product, selling well, that people clearly want and other companies are trying to copy. Yet because it's tablets are all about Apple, people want to say that it's not happening, or that it's only posers wanting to look kool etc, the same old.

Yeah, there's no real point to my comment. But then, what point is there to any comment or argument on here? Also, it's not a dumb as argument. That implies that there are 2 opinions, and people are arguing them. The point is that even after the sales figures came in for the iPad, people still denied what was in black and white. That's not an argument, that's, well, I'm not sure. Deluded?

How can you argue that something that sells in the millions (~15 million world wide!) is not going to sell and will fail? That's exactly what has been happening here, not only since the iPad was announced (when speculation was fair enough, even though it was guided largely by wanting it to fail because it was made by Apple, rather than a genuine opinion about how well it might do) but long after it started to sell well.

What annoys me too is that the fact that Apple have been the only real player in the table market, has meant that people here have been negative about the whole idea of tablets, not just the iPad, but the form factor as a whole.

For the record, I don't own an Apple product (and wont until they open up who can make hardware for it etc) and am I not a fan, but I recognise when something is popular and wont hate on a product or idea just because of the person or company who dreamt it up and produced it.


RE: Will never catch on
By Pirks on 3/14/2011 4:24:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A popular product, selling well, that people clearly want and other companies are trying to copy. Yet because it's tablets are all about Apple, people want to say that it's not happening, or that it's only posers wanting to look kool etc, the same old.
Where's that damn Motoman when we need him?


RE: Will never catch on
By Solandri on 3/14/2011 7:28:56 PM , Rating: 2
I'll vouch for you. I'm no fan of Apple (their policies so disgust me I've been going out of my way to avoid their products). But I've long seen the tablet form factor as a viable market. I ate a lot of downratings here for stating that belief shortly before the iPad was released.

The iPad isn't perfect - far from it. But it comes a lot closer than anything that came before it. And the sales bear it (and my stance) out.


RE: Will never catch on
By bety on 3/14/2011 7:27:12 PM , Rating: 1
If you had been here before the Ipad was first released...well frankly, even well after, a majority of the MS wankers on this site predicted and declared this over and over...some of the article writers put it in print....


RE: Will never catch on
By bupkus on 3/15/2011 12:55:55 PM , Rating: 1
I guess I'm just an old white man who doesn't really need to move out of his comfort zone. I don't like carrying around computers when I can just leave them at home.

I had a smart phone but my Palm Treo Pro with Windows Mobile 6.1 was anything but smart. Apple kicked ass and MS deserved to get kicked to the curb for that POS I bought.

It now sits on a shelf and I'm currently using a Samsung slider phone with no internet/email and what it does is plenty smart enough. It's a phone. It's small, light and the battery lasts.

What is obvious to me is that Steve Jobs is a genius. What he did for Apple is f'n incredible. Apple is leading the way in handhelds and well... just look at what they've released and the incredible popularity of it.
Of course, some would say he's an evil genius but a genius nonetheless.

Do I need an iPhone? Hell no. Would I but an ipod? Nope. Why? See self description in opening sentence. I have a 1GB Sansa Clip which cost me $19 and that's alright by me.

Don't hate me just because I don't care what people spend their hard earned money on. Just don't hit me up for a loan should you forget the rent money when buying Apple products.


RE: Will never catch on
By Hiawa23 on 3/15/2011 2:25:23 PM , Rating: 2
Do I need an iPhone? Hell no. Would I but an ipod? Nope. Why? See self description in opening sentence. I have a 1GB Sansa Clip which cost me $19 and that's alright by me.

I agree. I don't own anything made by Apple, & what some people are paying for the phones plus the monthly fees, & data plans are ridiculous. I bought me Samsung Freeform 2 phone from Metro PCS, $40/month, has all the services I need. I have a computer at home but don't need a portable, or need anything like an Ipad. If you have a need for it great but it seems many just buy new tech devices or charge them to their credit cards just to have a new tech. I am not one to tell anyone what to buy, but I thought there was a recession, or $4 gas prices going on. The IPAD ocost more than my monthly mortgage, noway could I see buying one. Say what you want but Apple has done a great job getting it's buyers to continue to buy it's products, many just bought the IPAD1, & rushed out to buy the IPAD2. Same for the Iphone.


RE: Will never catch on
By The Raven on 3/15/2011 1:33:47 AM , Rating: 2
Shifting goalposts?
quote:
the DT consensus is that the iPad wont catch on, will fail etc...

Did you even put up any posts for me to shift? Your comment was way too general to say that you had established some goalposts.
quote:
The predictions are that the iPad and tablets would fail totally, and no one would want one, period.

Find me one person (even some troll on the Net) that said that. I don't follow everything that is said about the iPad, but didn't they take preorders? Doesn't that mean that you would be insane to say they wouldn't sell one iPad.

Even those who dismiss all of Apple's success as the doings of the cult of Jobs would say that thousands of devotees would buy them out of stock and make it a success.

I think you are the one who is exaggerating you recollection of comments made here.

Of course I could be wrong, but we were talking about the consensus of opinion anyway even if you could find one person saying that. Anyway that was my impression of the tone around the Web, take it or leave it. You can always just close your eyes, cover your ears and go, "la la la" and feel vindicated somehow that you are 100% correct though.


RE: Will never catch on
By Aloonatic on 3/15/2011 2:52:05 AM , Rating: 2
lol, are you being serious? Just go back through the DT articles about the original iPad and you'll see.

Shifting goal posts? No one mentioned that iPads would, or were ever meant to, replace desktop PCs and laptops, that's the measure that you decided to add for some reason. What I said was that people thought that the iPad would fail and no one would buy them. That's pretty simple measure of failure, isn't it? You decided to change the measure of failure to be something that the iPad was never intended to achieve any way.

As for the Apple cult/devotees in general. It is funny how "the cult of jobs" has grown and grown and grown. The number of his "devotees" has moved well beyond the cult range, and dismissing their success like this is just a little sad. Trying to make out that it's not a successful product really, as it's only bought by Apple cult members is silly.

It's being bought by many people because they like what it is and does, not because they have been brain washed, but keep on telling yourself that, and moving the goal posts and expanding the definition of what it takes to be a cult member to delude yourself into thinking that you are right.

People here need to realise that they can't constantly dismiss high sales by saying that it's only Appleites and cult members when sales reach the level they have. Yet that's what happens here all the time.

By the way, the tone around the web might be one thing, but the tone on DT is quite different. Sorry to have to be the one to break it to you, though your use of phrases like "cul of Jobs" should mean that you are right at home here.


RE: Will never catch on
By The Raven on 3/15/2011 2:28:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
As for the Apple cult/devotees in general.[...]

I didn't say that. I said that even those who dismiss Apple's success as such would anticipate that the iPad would be a financial success. Again show me someone saying that it wouldn't sell at all.

The first article on DT which mentions the word "iPad"...
http://www.dailytech.com/Insider+Claims+ASUS+and+A...
I see only people saying that they would buy one.

The next article on DT...
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Delivers+Sleek+Magi...
Someone said:
quote:
Can anyone explain to me how you could possibly type on this without setting it flat on a table and using the two index finger approach? It isn't set up at an angle, and there is no where for your palms to rest. Sounds like some multi-touch multi-fail.

To which YOU replied:
quote:
I was thinking the same thing. There are more images on Anand's Analysis of the iPad by the way. You either have to slouch around the office with your feet up on a ledge that is level with your head, in order to get the required angle, or welcome aching wrists by typing at an angle when it's in a protective case. It seems like one of the bigger problems with it as a genuine productivity (not just a novelty fancy gaming iPod for kids) device, to add to the long list above. Might be good as a portable media player though, once you've converted your video files to the limited container formats supported of course.


And here is one of those (apparent) Apple haters that I mentioned saying:
quote:
An overgrown iPhone, lol. I'm sure it will sell tons with those hip commercials Apple makes.


Here's someone saying:
quote:
[$499.] This thing is going to sell millions at that price.


To which a hater conceded sales by saying:
quote:
your such a tool.... i can put an apple logo on a turd and you'd buy it oh wait im sure your house is full of them already


So again, where did anyone say that they wouldn't sell...other than you? (Yes, I know I'm exaggerating your comment for effect)


RE: Will never catch on
By sxr7171 on 3/14/2011 3:38:22 PM , Rating: 1
Mark my words. In 5 years 90% of consumers will need only a tablet. The other 10% will use a laptop for getting things done, creating content etc. Most consumers are just that - consumers of media/data/content. Add cloud computing to the equation and there is no "it remains to be seen". It just will be.


RE: Will never catch on
By bupkus on 3/14/2011 3:55:29 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, Nostradamus, time for your pudding.


RE: Will never catch on
By Azethoth on 3/14/2011 9:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah and make that delicious chocolate pudding.

We really are looking at the post PC wave of devices. I find some apps on the iPad to be relevant and useful in a way they will never be on a PC nor on laptops / notebooks.

Once a particular app crystallizes with good UI on a smartphone / pad it is game over for going back to a PC for that app.


RE: Will never catch on
By B3an on 3/15/2011 8:59:32 AM , Rating: 2
There will always be PC's. People who do real work could never possibly use a tablet for anything but the most basic of tasks.
Theres digital imaging, design, 3D, CAD, rendering, game design, hardcore gamers, business, scientific, and tons of other areas that need the power of a PC, the hardware, the versatility, peripherals/options. All the people in these areas add up to a large portion of the market.

How can a device with a couple of USB ports, tiny screen, no keyboard/mouse, and pathetically under powered hardware (for these types of things) possibly be used for this stuff. Even my 4GHz 980X system with 24GB RAM is not fast enough for my rendering work.

Then theres people like yourself, and for you a tablet may be a good option, but dont fool yourself that it's for everyone, will replace PC, or could even remotely compete in many areas.


RE: Will never catch on
By cochy on 3/14/2011 3:57:36 PM , Rating: 2
Netbooks are dying if not dead already. I don't know how long or if tablets will replaces desktops but they've destroyed netbook's chances at any market.


RE: Will never catch on
By Alexstarfire on 3/14/2011 5:40:40 PM , Rating: 2
I don't really see why, but you're right. Netbooks seem far more useful to me. Only reason I didn't get one is because of cheap laptops. Got my current 13" Acer for about the same price at a netbook, ~$350 IIRC. If I needed the battery life I'd have gotten one but I didn't so I got this instead.


RE: Will never catch on
By tayb on 3/14/2011 9:09:15 PM , Rating: 1
Netbooks fail at almost everything they attempt to do. Battery life sucks, keyboards are cramped, and they are woefully underpowered. Tablets such as the iPad don't try to do nearly as much but what they try to do they do it well.

I wouldn't purchase either of these devices but if I had to pick one and you were going to give it to me for free it would DEFINITELY be an iPad or equivalent. I would use it. I wouldn't use a netbook. I can't stand netbooks.


RE: Will never catch on
By Alexstarfire on 3/15/2011 3:38:15 AM , Rating: 2
10 hours of battery life is fail? Come on now. You can say it's underpowered, but the battery life is just fine. For just about anything I'd do on a tablet I could do on a netbook just fine. Just preference I suppose. I wouldn't use either of them either, but I'd also make the opposite choice that you did.


RE: Will never catch on
By nikon133 on 3/14/2011 5:57:53 PM , Rating: 2
I think they are just evolving into 11 - 13" ULVs or Fusion units. Atom is too much the same as it ever was - hardly a reason for people to upgrade. Likewise, integrated graphics, 10" screens etc. If I had, say, 2 year old netbook, the only reason to get a new one would be if my original one has died. Contrary to the desktop upgrades (or replacements) where every new generation of CPU/GPU/... gives noticeable boost in performance, Atom based netbooks are pretty much on the same level they always were.

But ULVs like M11x, or even Fusion units... tempting, for me at least.


RE: Will never catch on
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 6:42:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I love my 11.6" Celeron sub notebook. The thing is, I've had it a year and there's nothing better out there for the same price. In fact, a similar machine now costs at least the same, if not more than it did a year ago? In deed, there used to be dual core alternatives available back when I bought this notebook, but not any more? Things have actually gone backwards, to a certain extent, here in the UK.

I'm looking forward to the see what AMD's Fusion SoC can bring to the party (coupled with a cheap SSD perhaps) but that's just me, and you (and probably most others here too). The thing is, people here go on about "full fledged" and "real" OSes etc, but the gen pop, out there in the rest of the world are increasingly getting used to being able to get what they want done on a device by simply jabbing at a screen.

Netbook/notebook PCs have stagnated in the last 12-18 months. Huge gains are being made in the tablet world, and they also have hte added onus of being quite fun to use. Not like the boring old PC that is just like the one that you have to use at the office.


RE: Will never catch on
By Solandri on 3/14/2011 7:39:13 PM , Rating: 3
Netbooks didn't really die, manufacturers just shifted them into something they weren't supposed to be. The first netbooks ran a simplified OS which quickly gave you access to a few primary apps (web browser, email, IM, photo and video viewer, etc - sound familiar?).

Then Microsoft and Intel got into the game and steered them towards full-featured mini-laptops which ran Windows. They basically abandoned the market for a low-end device with "a simplified OS which quickly gave you access to a few primary apps" device. For a time the closest thing to filling that hole was the Blackberry, but it was too small and limited. The iPad filled that market hole nicely when it was introduced.

Like I've been saying since before the iPad was introduced, there is a market for this type of simple device. Netbooks originally filled it, but then abandoned it to run Windows. Now tablets are filling it. It doesn't have to be an iPad or an Android 3.0 tablet which fills it. But something has to fill it because there's clearly demand for it, despite all the big manufacturers and technophiles wishing there wasn't.


RE: Will never catch on
By The Raven on 3/18/2011 11:03:29 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. This iPad vs. netbook debate could be almost be equated to the (non-existant) iOS vs. OSX debate seeing as the iPad runs iOS and netbooks run full OSs like OSX (e.g. Air). OSX pwns iOS. Fact.

<valley girl voice>Umm...yeah like the iPad is better than OSX because it has apps, yeah. Duh!</vgv>

You can't run OSX on the iPad. This is the basis of why I think this iPad craze is a fad to great extent. I'm not saying that people are wasting their money or what not, but that give it a couple years when Windows or Ubuntu (or even OSX) is running on every tablet (which BTW has been going on for many years, albeit with limited demand) and then people will wonder why they thought the oversized iPhone was a revolution in the tech sector.

I'm still wondering why Applephiles aren't touting Jobs' other creation, the Air, as a game changer like they do with everything else. And then there are other devices that get no play whatsoever. Even Apple devices like the Magic Trackpad (which works great with Ubuntu I hear).


RE: Will never catch on
By nikon133 on 3/14/2011 5:51:53 PM , Rating: 2
They even might be toys, but then again, toys sell best. Look at Wii, GameBoys, other consoles.

Nothing wrong with games & toys.


RE: Will never catch on
By invidious on 3/14/2011 3:04:48 PM , Rating: 2
Definition of SARCASM
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain


apple/SJ is still a douche bag
By sprockkets on 3/14/2011 4:36:09 PM , Rating: 2
They make a great tablet.

It plays games better than anything

It has a great screen.

They can't stock enough of them.

So you would think that with them claiming they also cannot make enough iphone4s for the world, that they wouldn't need to trash talk their competition.

But noooo!

1. Misquotes Samsung about the whole "quite small" vs. "quite smooth" issue.

2. Makes fun of honeycomb with "only 60" or whatever apps.

3. Then calls everyone else a copycat or trashes other peoples designs.

4. And my favorite, oh we are the first tablet to have a dual core CPU, (but so we can claim this without looking stupid) let's add "in volume." There. Now we can be "first" in everything.

I have a feeling that once Steve Job leaves apple the douchebaggery will stop. Ironically that also will lead to their death.




RE: apple/SJ is still a douche bag
By Pirks on 3/14/2011 5:03:39 PM , Rating: 2
A gifted douche is way better than mediocre non-douche


RE: apple/SJ is still a douche bag
By MartyLK on 3/14/2011 9:02:38 PM , Rating: 1
To be fair and honest, the rest of the industry does copy Apple. Before the iPhone first came out, there were no capacitive touch screen phones containing all of the tech the iPhone had. Then, all of a sudden, the rest of the industry starts releasing their versions of the same tech and style. Samsung is a huge copycat of Apple. The friggin Galaxy S is a clear ripoff of the early iPhones.

When Apple makes something, the rest of the industry follows trying, like scavengers, to rake in some of the momentum Apple creates. If Apple haters were truly honest with themselves...which is an impossibility...they would be pissed off if they worked their asses off and did all of the research and development and others come along and copy it...try to make money off of Apple's hard work.

If Apple don't make it, it won't exist. Thank Apple for the mobile/portable gadget market we have today. Because the rest of the industry would still be dishing out lazy-ass, cheap-ass crap lead by vision-less leaders who only care about stringing ppl along like a drug dealer with their half-hearted products.

Everything the original iPhone embodied was way more than the other parts of the industry would ever even dream about allowing the consumer. That's what I mean about stringing us along...give us a little bit of tech at a time and never give us anything fulfilling. Friggin deadbeat mo-fus. I hope Apple wipes the sewer with their sorry asses and they even have a spark of a chance. Goddamn miserable, humanity-hating, ass-wipes. Palm used to be one of them...but that's because of their leader. That ignorant POS.


RE: apple/SJ is still a douche bag
By Gio6518 on 3/15/2011 4:06:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
To be fair and honest, the rest of the industry does copy Apple.


How's That they didn't even create the iPod

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5622055-1.html

touch screens were out way before iPod's or iPhone's its just the natural evoulution of technology.

quote:
Samsung is a huge copycat of Apple. The friggin Galaxy S is a clear ripoff of the early iPhones.


considering that samsung designed, created, and manufactures it for Apple, your a little backwards. The A4 is a Arm processor cortex A8, on the most part the same as android phones (in other cases the exact same one), their new A5 again samsung designed, created, and manufactured it for Apple, is an Arm cortex A9 same as the Tegra 2, so who's really ripping off Apple? Apple doesn't create or innovate, the contact companies to get a parts list, then have a 3rd party assemble it for them...

quote:
I hope Apple wipes the sewer with their sorry asses and they even have a spark of a chance. Goddamn miserable, humanity-hating, ass-wipes.


Considering that Android is wiping the floor with rotten Apples, I seriously doubt your satements accuracy...Especially all of them were wrong...


RE: apple/SJ is still a douche bag
By MartyLK on 3/15/11, Rating: 0
RE: apple/SJ is still a douche bag
By Gio6518 on 3/16/2011 2:39:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What's the matter, can't afford an iPhone?


either me, or my wife probabaly more more in a year than you probabally make in 10 years, only idiots pay more to get the same or less. Considering my EVO cost the same as the iPhone 4, again shows your an iDiot, and my EVO, my wifes EVO and either of my kids Epics out perform the iPhone 4.

quote:
The only thing available before the iPhone was cheap-ass resistive tech...you know..the shit that is flexible with layers of film and easy to harm.


Again thats the natural evolution that touch screens would of achieved with or without crApple.

quote:
What the fuck is wrong with education these days?


Obviously, your linguistic skills shows your a victim of current education system.

quote:
And Apple is wiping the sewer with Android and doing it with just one phone! How many phones does Android have?


LOL thats just comical, iPhones have been around since 2007 and still havent achieved, the status that Android has, the moto droid alone beat the iPhone selling 1 million units in 60 days, compared to iPhone taking 74. There are so many different models to cater to individual carriers, so yes theres gonna be many different models, and since Androids marketshare is almost double of iPhone's does say Android is destroying them (in this case 2 isn't better than 1 LOL).
Furthermore at best on a worldwide iPhone only hit 3rd in popularity, where Android is at the number 1 spot.

quote:
Apple didn't create the iPod??


No they once again stole everyone else work, a pieced together a rip off of others work.

quote:
And yes, Samsung is ripping Apple off.


How do you rip Apple off, when its Samsung processor thats used in the iPhone 4,which is based on Arm's cortex A8, all Apple did was purchase it...

But obviously your incapable of intelligent thought and believe Apples lies and propaganda, truth is Apple steals, backward engineers and claims they created it, if they can't, they attempt to purchase the company that did create something their intrested in...

Wheather it's iOS or Android the majority of the components are identical so how do you figure it's
quote:
cheap-ass resistive tech
when they just buy it from Samsung or same companies that HTC, Moto etc. buy from...

But thank you, your foolishness has brightened up my day, in fact, i'll probabally be smiling for at least a week :)


Serves the competition right
By sxr7171 on 3/14/2011 4:01:17 PM , Rating: 1
You have Android tablets, which as another poster said is behind iOS. Until there is a unified Google designed UI it just can't compete. Then there is the WebOS tablet featuring a superior OS but designed like a pig would design a tablet. How hard would it have been for HP to design a tablet with some damn appeal? I know all of you are hard core nerds who don't care about that, but in reality the marketplace does care and its how iOS got its start. Step one design appealing hardware with crippled software. Step 2: Get everyone to buy it, appealing hardware sells itself. Step 3: Watch developers cater to a market full of people who will pay for software. Step 4: Succeed.

I know most of you will hate me for saying this, but success speaks for itself. Haters will hate.




RE: Serves the competition right
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 4:24:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You have Android tablets, which as another poster said is behind iOS. Until there is a unified Google designed UI it just can't compete.
Isn't that exactly what Android 3/Honeycomb is?


RE: Serves the competition right
By sxr7171 on 3/14/2011 8:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
Yes. It needs to get to the phones as well. I hope it has gestures.


RE: Serves the competition right
By sxr7171 on 3/14/2011 8:36:45 PM , Rating: 2
The additional point I forgot to add here is that It needs to be out for a while and software needs to be updated for it. It shouldn't take too long. Right now the fragmentation in Android camp is really making it hard on developers and consumers.


RE: Serves the competition right
By Pirks on 3/14/2011 4:28:19 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Haters will hate.
And Motomans will mate.


ONLY?
By Da W on 3/14/2011 3:06:57 PM , Rating: 2
Only 1 million Apple fans?




RE: ONLY?
By Belard on 3/15/2011 3:06:27 AM , Rating: 2
Uh... no.

Thats in a day. They sold out. If they had 2 million units available over the weekend, they would have hit that mark.

I don't own ANY Apple products. I own a Galaxy phone.
This weekend, I played the Galaxy Tab and the iPad2. Both are $500.

The Galaxy Tab worked pretty much just like my phone, a bit crappy - but bigger, thicker.

We will be buying the iPad2 for business... it does have a market.
This is what MS failed to do since 2002 when they made the tablet version of XP.... total failure. Just like the DEAD ZUNE.

But I Windows7 Phone OS looks and works nicely. Give them thumbs up for that.


RE: ONLY?
By vision33r on 3/15/2011 10:07:29 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung makes terrible consumer products. Samsung phones are nicely designed but craps out easy and buggy as hell.

Samsung Galaxy Tab is over-priced and comes with crappy hardware. And good luck with software updates and support.

Samsung should just stick to making LCDs.


Obvious is well...obvious...
By callmeroy on 3/14/2011 3:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
Why people pat theirselves on the back regarding some brain dead obvious predictions gives me a nice chuckle. I wonder do the same folks turn their friends/families and go -- you know I bet its going to rain...again....someday...

I mean who HONESTLY thought Apple would have any problems moving Ipad stock (and I'm not just talking about Ipad2) ?

Likewise, I give no one points for genius to predict as time moves on we will move away from full sized desktops and laptops... I mean you are pretty dense if you can't piece that future mystery together....all signs are pointing to that direction.

NOW....whether it's successful and long lived -- that's a different issue....

But yeah, its a no brainer to say in the not far future folks will have table like devices that are full desktop replacements for their home offices...heck just make tablet units that have connections for full sized mouse/keyboards and HDMI for full size LED/LCD hook ups and bam....who needs a desktop (aside from ethusiast/gamer types)....




RE: Obvious is well...obvious...
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 4:21:27 PM , Rating: 2
The idea your last paragraph suggests is quite interesting, and we are already pretty much there, in some respects.

What are those all-in-one touch screen PCs and iMacs? They are sold as desktops, but they are essentially large tablet PCs with a built in stand, and a plug a keyboard and mouse.

Why can't tablets be a smaller, portable version of that, but you just leave the stand, keyboard and mouse on the desktop?

Screen size I guess. People will slays want a big screen, so I'm not sure how that's going to be sorted. HDMI outputs will let you run a duel monitor set-up perhaps? Who knows.


RE: Obvious is well...obvious...
By Aloonatic on 3/14/2011 4:36:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I mean who HONESTLY thought Apple would have any problems moving Ipad stock (and I'm not just talking about Ipad2) ?
99% of the people on this site. Sadly though, it was mostly wishful thinking, in that sad way that happens some times when their are entrenched fans and haters about. I'm not sure that many really stopped to think about whether the iPad would be successful, but just wanted to say that it wouldn;t be, as if saying it would make it true.
quote:
I wonder do the same folks turn their friends/families and go -- you know I bet its going to rain...again....someday...
It could be p**5ing it down out side as some people were talking to their friends and family, but if Steve jobs or Apple released a statement saying that it will rain again, there are some who would deny it, just for the sake of it.

Sad, but true.


iPad2 - Kicks Android in the nuts!
By Belard on 3/15/2011 3:39:59 AM , Rating: 2
This is what happens when Samsung and others spend about 9 months throwing together as an alternative to the iPad.

I own a Samsung Galaxy phone, I like it alright and prefer it over the iPhone for many reasons.

Over the weekend, a business partner and myself played with the iPad2 and some other Android tablet devices including the latest from Samsung.

Why would ANYONE pay $500 for that awkward, thick crumble-some Galaxy Tab when the iPad2 goes for the same price? They go with the 16:9 screen which makes it even "smaller" like todays LCD displays. Want to view websites, read ebooks? Its not as nice as the iPad2. For our business needs, we have to go with the iPad2 or even an iPad2 over the Android. We're open to using Android and we're familiar with it.

Give Apple credit where credit is due... they do actually bring innovation to the market.

The iPad2 would be the first ever Apple product I'd be buying... with over 20 years of owning and building computers.




RE: iPad2 - Kicks Android in the nuts!
By Aloonatic on 3/15/2011 4:32:06 AM , Rating: 2
I must admit, I'm curious about the business uses for a tablet. I can see how it might replace the notes that yo take into a meeting, and be a good way to sow people what you are talking about in small groups, without having to print lots of pages out, whist being interactive too. I'm sure there must be a lot more imaginative uses for a tablet too.

Do you plan on investing in tablets for your business? It would be interesting to see how easy it is for you to integrate them (iPads especially) into your systems.

Hopefully Google and MS can get partners to make a product that is as good as the package that Apple offer.

For the price and quality of build, the iPad 2 really doesn't seem to be all that expensive at all, when you compare it to their competitors at least.


By vision33r on 3/15/2011 10:23:04 AM , Rating: 2
We have about 70 iPads deployed at our firm and so far all of our users are happy with them.

In order to make them business friendly, you must have a good in-house intranet and App delivery system.

We actually have many people who returned their laptops for just iPads. Serves their basic needs such as corporate emailing, intranet file access, web surfing, and general document viewing and even working with Office docs while on the go.

It is not a full laptop replacement yet but it is getting closed to matching laptop productivity once the apps come around.


This is a lie
By bill4 on 3/14/2011 8:16:03 PM , Rating: 2
This news story is a fake lie by Apple biased Anandtech. I just got through reading an article that iPad2 is selling the same as ipad 1 (which is disappointing sales)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487040...

quote:
Analysts put sales of the new iPad in the range of 400,000 to 600,000 units during its first three days on the market, about the same range as the original model sold in its first week. Apple hasn't disclosed any sales figures yet.


But I know, the Apple biased media will always spin bad sales into a huge success in no time.




RE: This is a lie
By Tony Swash on 3/14/2011 8:46:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

This news story is a fake lie by Apple biased Anandtech. I just got through reading an article that iPad2 is selling the same as ipad 1 (which is disappointing sales)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487040...

quote:
Analysts put sales of the new iPad in the range of 400,000 to 600,000 units during its first three days on the market, about the same range as the original model sold in its first week. Apple hasn't disclosed any sales figures yet.

But I know, the Apple biased media will always spin bad sales into a huge success in no time.


Is that some sort of weird sarcasm or do you really believe that sort of delusional pap?

The iPad wasn't on sale a year ago. Apple will probably sell 20 million in it's first calendar year on the market.

Many observers have commented that the lines for iPad 2 were noticeably longer than those for iPad on its first day on sale.

If the iPad (version 1 not including the iPad 2 sales) were its own standalone company separate to that of Apple, it would be so successful that it would qualify for entry into the world’s top Fortune 500. A product that was not on sale a year ago.

If this is a disappointment then I cannot conceive what you would think constituted a success. The Zune perhaps, or possible WP7?


RE: This is a lie
By Alexstarfire on 3/15/2011 3:44:55 AM , Rating: 1
No one said it was on sale a year ago. Defensive much? It's the WSJ so I doubt they just made shit up. Since they say Apple hasn't released sales figures it's just an estimate.


The smart cover crushed the rival tablets
By Tony Swash on 3/14/11, Rating: 0
By The Raven on 3/14/2011 3:04:14 PM , Rating: 2
That might not be a surprise if you look back on accessory sales for the iPod. I would guess more was made from those (e.g. docks) than from any competitor's PMP. [Though much to my chagrin since I hate iPods ;-) ]


By morphologia on 3/15/2011 5:00:32 PM , Rating: 2
I guess L. Ron Hubbard was right...the best way to make a fortune is to start your own religion. All you need is a willing flock with more money than sense.


I found it amusing
By chewietobbacca on 3/14/2011 6:36:49 PM , Rating: 4
When I passed my local mall on launch day, and people in line were antsy about being able to get an iPad 2 on release date, I couldn't help but think how people were so worried and nervous about an expensive luxury good, while people on the other side of the world were dealing with a massive disaster.

Not that I care what people do with their money, but it put things into perspective to me where people's priorities are these days




Just to clarify
By morphologia on 3/15/2011 4:54:59 PM , Rating: 2
Apple took over 1 million orders over the weekend, but they sold 500,000 units before running out of stock. Delays for the rest could be up to a month.

Nice marketing ploy, use jealousy and anxiety to boost product furor. It's like inviting a million people to your party in paradise but giving half of them IOUs.




Blah, blah, blah
By bupkus on 3/16/2011 9:53:18 AM , Rating: 2
"iPad, iPhone, ipod, netbooks, laptops, notebooks..."

"Hey, Simon. Look at me. Look at me, Simon. Look at my eyes. Look at my eyes. It's me, Steve."




"If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." -- Scientology founder L. Ron. Hubbard














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