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Phones to catch up with current gen. Androids

Research in Motion, Ltd. (TSE:RIM) is hoping that despite a year of delays developers will jump onboard its new mobile operating system platform, BlackBerry 10.  It's travelling around the world on the BlackBerry Jam World Tour, giving out alpha hardware to prospective developers.

The phonemaker today announced the screen resolution of its product BB10 products, which are currently expected to launch in the first half of next year.  According to RIM its iconic keyboard phones will get a 720x720 pixel display, while the flagship "full touch" devices like London will get 1280x720 pixel (HD) (16:9) displays.

The good news is that HD display resolution is identical to that of most flagship Android smartphones like the One X from HTC Corp. (TPE:2498) and the Galaxy S III from Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930).

However, there's still around half a year until the launch of BB10, so one has to wonder whether Android phonemakers won't be using an even higher resolution display by then, in their never-ending quest to push the hardware envelope.

BB10 screen resolution

RIM is hoping that the BB10 launch will save it from an otherwise inevitable fire sale and reroute its plunging market share.


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Nice job RIM
By retrospooty on 8/16/2012 1:42:34 PM , Rating: 2
Its good that they will be using high res screens, but really they will have 1280x720 screen well over a year after several Android makers had it... That is IF they release is in early 2013 with no further delays. This would be more of a story if they werent using high res screens.




RE: Nice job RIM
By augiem on 8/16/2012 2:08:36 PM , Rating: 3
Yes, they HAVE to match the specs of what's out there now or they'd be lambasted. The bar has been raised already. Plus these screens are so common they're probably not much more expensive than lower res ones by now.

I don't think there's any real concern about Android phones using higher res displays by 6 month's time. That's not going to happen en masse or the phones would have already been announced well before now. And if one phone does happen to be just announced by then that has a higher res, that's not likely to be the deciding factor for a potential BB purchaser. Besides that, anything higher res would be a marginal improvement at best, and at worst, slow the system down noticeably. Not an issue.


RE: Nice job RIM
By GulWestfale on 8/16/2012 8:31:32 PM , Rating: 2
there are already 1080p phone displays out there, and HTC is rumored to launch a 5" phone with such a display in the next 6 months.
RIM's big problem is that they focused too much on the business market, and the ease of user and consumer-oriented design of iphone/android passed them by. now they have a lot of catching up to do, and merely matching android specs from last year won't do (only apple can get away with that, due to their clever marketing, and, let's admit it, excellent interface/user experience).

a 720x720 screen sounds nice, i currently have a sony xperia ray (480x854), and the high res on the small 3.3" screen looks fantastic. but without an idiot-proof menu system, killer apps, and the right marketing, RIM really has no chance against android and apple.


RE: Nice job RIM
By invidious on 8/16/2012 2:08:52 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
This would be more of a story if they werent using high res screens.
I disagree, RIM has a horrendous track record in recent years when it comes to inovating new features or even matching the existing features of other smartphones. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them sit on their asses and milk their dated product line for what little it is still worth.


RE: Nice job RIM
By retrospooty on 8/16/2012 2:30:25 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... True.

I didnt say it would be a surprising story, it surely would have been more of a sarcastic, "the tech world is laughing at you" kind of story ;)


RE: Nice job RIM
By Pirks on 8/16/2012 2:51:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
RIM has a horrendous track record in recent years when it comes to inovating new features or even matching the existing features of other smartphones
My old Torch from last year has a larger screen than iPhone and has a convenient trackpad that makes navigation so much easier than on iPhone. But don't stop trolling please, DT needs you.


RE: Nice job RIM
By Reallyyy on 8/16/2012 3:12:16 PM , Rating: 2
Right, because that 3.7" display at 800 x 480 is SOOO much better than the iphone's IPS 3.5" display at 960 x 640. That and a trackpad makes it better than an iphone, irregardless of everything else iOS offers.


RE: Nice job RIM
By Pirks on 8/16/2012 3:15:29 PM , Rating: 2
If iOS offered BES integration instead of some stupid 3D games, I might have purchased iPhone instead. But I wanted a business phone for work, not a toy. Larger screen and better navigation support on Torch were just an icing on a cake.


RE: Nice job RIM
By retrospooty on 8/16/2012 4:34:59 PM , Rating: 2
You can blame that on RIM too. The have had BES integration on other platforms as old as Palm OS5 in 2007, but wanted too much money for it.


RE: Nice job RIM
By Samus on 8/17/2012 1:49:56 AM , Rating: 2
I actually think the Torch is the best Blackberry since the 7250 (which was completely bulletproof...in 2004)

The Torch is a great phone with great battery life, form factor, and features. If email and texting is your thing, it's extremely competitive.

However it is completely overpriced and there are almost no apps. Also, as with all RIM devices, BES is a complete thorn in the side when you compare it to the simplicity, versatility and reliability of Activesync (whether its hosted exchange or a small business server...)

I wish you luck RIM, but without aggressive pricing and completely updating your network, you are in deep...


RE: Nice job RIM
By GulWestfale on 8/16/2012 8:32:54 PM , Rating: 2
"irregardless"

lol


RE: Nice job RIM
By retrospooty on 8/16/2012 4:30:43 PM , Rating: 2
"My old Torch from last year has a larger screen than iPhone and has a convenient trackpad that makes navigation so much easier than on iPhone. But don't stop trolling please, DT needs you."

Uh... throw all that on its already years past its time OS and you have nothing. No screen or CPU can makeup for an OS that is shit. Nice candy coat you put on it though.


RE: Nice job RIM
By Pirks on 8/16/2012 5:06:34 PM , Rating: 2
Current BB OS 7 is shit for some big shot 3D games maybe, but definietly not for work or family stuff. It plays HD video, shoots HD video, shoots pictures, plays music, browses web in WebKit-based HTML5 capable browser, accesses your email accounts and does all the stuff modern smartphone supposed to do. The absence of some iOS 3D games does NOT make the OS shit, no matter what you troll here :)


RE: Nice job RIM
By retrospooty on 8/16/2012 5:28:50 PM , Rating: 2
Says the guy who dumped it for a WP7 phone that he in turn dumped for a Galaxy Note.

Really Pirks, if guys like you who champion RIM's cause don't want RIM phones who the hell does?


RE: Nice job RIM
By Pirks on 8/16/2012 6:46:01 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
dumped for a Galaxy Note
I dumped my previous phones because of mediocre hardware mostly and because some apps I found useful are missing from BB and WP. Doesn't say anything about OS being shit though. I agree that compared to upcoming new versions of WP and BB older versions look real bad now, but given same hardware with 5" screen and same apps like MKV video player and Windows file share browser I could just as happily stay on WP7 or BB7 and even enjoy them more than Android.


RE: Nice job RIM
By Flunk on 8/16/2012 2:09:23 PM , Rating: 1
Why wait? put out those phones today with Android 4.1 and don't die like everyone is expecting. Rim's stubbornness knows no bounds.


Jason: you forgot your pic
By wordsworm on 8/16/2012 8:24:45 PM , Rating: 2
You forgot the RIM balloon.




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